May 27, 2007

It's nice to have a little influence

Chris Caldwell has a good article in the NY Times Magazine, "Where Every Generation Is First-Generation," on how Turks in Germany are not assimilating because of arranged marriages with people, often cousins, from the old country.


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8 comments:

Mark said...

In the West, it's long been accepted practice that people marry for love, and that no one - not even parents - has the right to interfere with such personal choices. Approximately 2 million movies have been made on the subject, and the interfering parents are always the villains (except for movies on Lifetime, where the mother was always right and the man her daughter marries is always a rapist, wife beating, child molesting, and/or drug using jerk.)

My prediction: we are so completely sold out to the notion that marriage is always and everywhere about love that we will NEVER fix our immigration laws to adapt to what amounts to an invasion.

Cumulatively, the West is bringing in millions of people each and every year who look upon the natives as unnacceptable marriage material. It would be one thing if we were dumb, violent savages, when in fact our countries are far wealthier, more peaceful, and advanced than their own.

It says something sad about "multiculturalism" that after it having been the centerpiece of American education for so long that we still haven't actually learned anything about other cultures.

Anonymous said...

It says something sad about "multiculturalism" that after it having been the centerpiece of American education for so long that we still haven't actually learned anything about other cultures.

Yes, and the "something sad" is that the point of multiculturalism is to destroy the host culture and the social fabric of a nation.

It's not about "learning" about the new culture. It's about "unlearning" the existing culture. That's why ignorance of imported culture is common and acceptable: it's beside the point.

The "centerpiece of American education" is cultural Marxism.

Anonymous said...

You all are wasting your time. Instead of writing these nonsense do some service to mankind and be unselfish that will make your mind peaceful!

Mark said...

Yes, and the "something sad" is that the point of multiculturalism is to destroy the host culture and the social fabric of a nation.

I'm sure for some that's true. But not every teacher or college student who embraces multiculti is an anti-American, by any means. They genuinely believe in the crap they're spouting. I know quite a few people who are that way. They've taken our obsession with "self-esteem" to its next logical level >>> ethnic-esteem.

You can't feel good about yourself until you feel good about your own ethnic group. And no one wants to tell someone from another culture that, by our own definition, their culture is messed up. So instead, tell them that their culture embraces all the same good things that our culture embraces - or that sometimes it's even better. Problem solved. Never mind that it isn't true.

I have no problem with a real and useful multiculturalism. A useful multiculturalism would've given us more people who understood Islamic culture, warts and all. It would've given us lots of people who speak Arabic - the kind of people who kept the British Empire on its feet.

That means rediscovering our ability to say that something is backwards and barabric. In our modern, multiracial society, that cannot be done for fear of offending someone.

Mark said...

International marriages, some for love, mostly arranged, always flow in one direction: from Third World to First World; from non-white country to white country.

I have what, I think, is a rather simple solution to this problem of Invasion By Marriage.

That would be this: require "trade" balance in the matter of international marriages. That is to say that everytime the US government, or British government, or any other Western government grants a visa to Fatima so that she can leave Pakistan to marry "the love of her life," her first cousin Achmed, whom she has never met, require that Achmed's brother (of similar age) leave for Pakistan ito marry Fatima's sister; and that, in doing so, he also revoke his citizenship.

Don't allow any new marriage visas to be issued to people until the number of marriages from that country is in balance. In addition, count all the marriage visas that have been issued for the last 20 or so years.

The political debate over such a plan would highlight the massive population shift (and invasion) that is going on via marriage. It would make people aware of how much immigration is going on under the guise of love; of how little of it is truly about love; and that there are, in fact, two ways to unite the two lovebirds, only one involving bringing their spouses to the West.

(We would, of course, allow waivers for servicemen who met their spouses while being stationed overseas - but even those numbers should count against the marriage trade balance.)

tommy said...

It says something sad about "multiculturalism" that after it having been the centerpiece of American education for so long that we still haven't actually learned anything about other cultures.

I think Allan Bloom made the same point in The Closing of the American Mind. He was surprised at how little modern college students knew about the rest of the world. That is not what most would have expected the outcome of multiculturalism to be.

Diversity is Strength! It's Also...Ignorance.

Good thing Ignorance is Strength too!

Mark said...

Of course a simpler plan would be simply to require net immigration balance, period. No more immigrants coming from country X than we have emigrants going to country X (including requiring revocation of citizenship). Age parity - so that we weren't replacing old prunes with fertile youngsters, would be required.

I suspect it'll happen when hell freezes over, or else when Americans come to their senses and toss all the incumbents politicians out on their big fat worthless butts.

Mark said...

I think Allan Bloom made the same point in The Closing of the American Mind. He was surprised at how little modern college students knew about the rest of the world.

I am surprised at how little modern college graduates know about anything. These days they'll graduate any idiot, so long as they can collect tuition from you and even more money for you from the state.