February 18, 2008

Very Affordable Family Formation in England

In contrast to Saturday's sad Muslim fellow in Egypt who can't afford to start a family, today we take a look at a jolly Muslim chap in England who quit his job teaching math because he gets paid more to sit at home in Manchester with his wife, who is also his first cousin, and their eleven (soon to be twelve) children. He has so many kids that four [correction: five] of them are named Muhammad. It's pure comedy gold.

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33 comments:

Garland said...

I count five Muhammad sons:

"The couple's ten other children are Muhammad Aves, 16, Sarah Zenib Bibi, 15, Maryam Hajra Bibi, 13, Muhammad Bilal, 11, Muhammad Haider Ali, nine, Halimn Sadia Bibi, eight, Umayah Habiba Hadia Bibi, seven, Saadiqah Fatima Bibi, five, Muhammad Ibrahim Amter, three, and Muhammad Imam Ismail, 18 months."

It's clever that the kids spell it with a 'u' in order to distinguish from the father with his 'o'. Otherwise I imagine it would get confusing.

Sean said...

I like his method of birth control. No condoms, just "It's up to god whether we have any more kids"

Anonymous said...

At the same time, Britain's competitor to the Wall Street Journal, the FT, just published an editorial questioning the need for more immigration from South Asia, Tandoori furore. Excerpts:

"Curry restaurateurs complain immigration curbs have led to a shortage of Bangladeshi chefs [...]

Assuming even that Bangladeshis are the only ones able to prepare a balti properly, it is legitimate to ask why, with potential chefs so hard to find, this ethnic group still has the highest unemployment of any group in the UK.

Restaurateurs have a sufficient home-grown supply of unemployed Bangladeshi labour. Employers could do more to move these people off state benefits and into work."

- Fred

Anonymous said...

I guess its like outsourcing. We pay the Chinese to produce our goods because we are too lazy, I mean we are not willing to work for a pittance. And we subsidise Muslims to make babies because...oh well.

Anonymous said...

Somewhat OT Steve, have you seen that Vince Young is going back to school to earn his degree in Education?

Austin American Statesman article here

I know he supposedly scored low in the NFL IQ test (whatever they call it) but ...

That seems a smart move.

Anonymous said...

CROSS BORDER, POOR AND BROKE,
TAKE BUS, SEE EMPLOYMENT FOLK.

NICE MAN TREAT ME GOOD IN THERE,
SAY I NEED TO SEE WELFARE.

WELFARE SAY "YOU COME NO MORE,
WE SEND CASH RIGHT TO YOUR DOOR."

WELFARE CHECKS, THEY MAKE YOU WEALTHY,
NHS, IT KEEP YOU HEALTHY!

BY AND BY, I GOT PLENTY MONEY,
THANKS TO YOU, ENGLISH DUMMY.

WRITE TO FRIENDS IN MOTHERLAND,
TELL THEM GET HERE FAST AS YOU CAN.

THEY COME IN TURBANS AND FORD TRUCKS,
I BUY BIG HOUSE WITH WELFARE BUCKS.

THEY COME, WE LIVE TOGETHER,
MORE WELFARE CASH, IT GETS BETTER!

FOURTEEN FAMILIES NOW MOVE IN,
BUT NEIGHBORS PATIENCE GROWING THIN.

FINALLY, WHITE GUY MOVES AWAY,
NOW I BUY HIS HOUSE AND THEN I SAY.

FIND MORE ALIENS FOR HOUSE TO RENT,
AND IN THE YARD I PUT A TENT.

SEND FOR FAMILY (THEY JUST TRASH),
BUT THEY TOO DRAW WELFARE CASH!

EVERYTHING IS SO MUCH GOOD,
SOON WE OWN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE HOBBY-IT'S CALLED BREEDING,
WELFARE PAY FOR BABY FEEDING.

KIDS NEED DENTIST? WIFE NEEDS PILLS?
WE GET IT FREE! WE GOT NO BILLS!

ENGLISHMAN, HE IS CRAZY, HE PAY ALL YEAR
TO KEEP WELFARE RUNNING HERE.

WE THINK ENGLAND DAMN GOOD PLACE!
TOO DAMN GOOD FOR WHITE-MAN RACE.

IF THEY NO LIKE US, THEY CAN SCRAM,
GOT LOTS OF ROOM IN PAKISTAN.

Anonymous said...

From the point of view of biological survival, culture is a Faustian bargain that will end badly for the Europeans. Just a few generations ago the British were spreading in every corner of the world, but now they are financing their own extinction. Tragic.

who is also his first cousin

Frankly, several of their children look mentally and/or physically impaired.

MensaRefugee said...

This isnt a 'muslim' issue per se, though many here are salivating at making it so.

Its a liberal issue. If the government paid me to do nothing...Id do nothing.

Stopped Clock said...

Some sects of Islam believe that "those named Muhammad will be first in line for salvation". In such families it's a safe bet that all the male children will have Muhammad somewhere in their name.

Anonymous said...

'Pure comedy gold' ?......I fail to see the funny side of it.
The word 'tragedy' is closer to the mark.

Anonymous said...

He's also 15 years his wife's senior. What a winner.

Anonymous said...

Well, I suppose the upshot of this liitle piece s that Her Majesty's Government actually pays a very generous lifetime stipend of cash, medicine and accomodation for every succesful act of sexual intercourse performed!
Amazing.
Gives that ancient trem of abuse 'being screwed over by the government' (ie the perptual grumble of taxpayers everywhere, a whole new meaning).

Anonymous said...

sickening is more like it.

Anonymous said...

To anonymous, thanks for posting the FT editorial rebutting the ludicrous claim that Britain's 'Indian' restaurants need continued mass immigration to survive.

More likely that certain restaurant owners want to bring over relatives from regions like Sylhet, rather than employ Bangladeshi non-relatives already living in Britain.

Anonymous said...

Some of the comments left in the Comments section are comedy gold as well!

Anonymous said...

I was looking up the meaning of "vomitive", and it linked me to that article.

Anonymous said...

Is this really true? Its so over the top, especially that condom bit. The worst aspect of this will be the end game when the system implodes, and all of these people with no immediate job history and diminished skills need to get a job in a much tougher economy.

I am sure many native British and Americans pull similar scams (although I am pretty sure its rare in families with two parents) but at least they have the sense to keep a low profile and if cornered "blame" someone else for their condition.

Anonymous said...

Well, I suppose the upshot of this liitle piece s that Her Majesty's Government actually pays a very generous lifetime stipend of cash, medicine and accomodation for every succesful act of sexual intercourse performed!

Er, Anon, as far as I'm concerned, there's no such thing as an unsuccessful act of sexual intercourse!

J said...

What stops a white Englishman to marry his cousin and have 12 childen and live on social security? Why family formation is very affordable for Mohammad and impossible for Nigel? Obviously, improving economic incentives will not cause Nigel to reproduce. Nor cutting the incentives will cause Mohammed to live against his convictions.

Anonymous said...

Did Mike Brady on the BRADY BUNCH have a job? He seemed to be around the house a lot.

Also in these United States wouldn't this guy have a criminal record and twelve kids by six different mothers?

OFF TOPIC RESPONSE:
Vince Young needs a degree like a fish needs a bike.

LemmusLemmus said...

May I point out that this article comes from the News of the World, possibly the least trustworthy publication in world journalism? Many of the quotes sound completely made up. Would a faithful muslim use words like "a****" and "c***"?

Anonymous said...

Compare and contrast Vince Young to this guy.

Young, who could do well without his degree, and is already making millions, seems to be planning for contingencies:

What If? He washes out in the NFL? What If? he has a Theissman like injury. What If? he wants to go into broadcasting as an "amiable jock" after the NFL. The "Not For Long" league.

A guy who by all accounts is reckoned "dumb" on the Wonderlic and does not come from a middle class background. Yet this other guy has no contingency planning and does not account for say, the rise of the BNP and the risk he takes that welfare could end, and he could be thrown out of the country.

Anonymous said...

Irregardless of the veracity of this item, there are unintended participants in the Welfare State.

A few years ago a Boston TV station did a story on a single mother with something like 9 kids who was getting fertility drugs from a gov't clinic. The reporter was trying to interview her through a half open door, and after the question, "What do you have to say to the taxpayers who are supporting your lifestyle?", the lady yells, "KEEP ON PAYING" just before she slams the door.

It is often argued that gunpowder was a positive development, because it gave good people more of an advantage than it gave bad people. I'm thinking the welfare state gives bad people more of an advantage than it gives good people.

Anonymous said...

Lets do the math shall we folks?


2 immigrants make 12 kids

12 kids, if they average just HALF the offspring their parents did make 72 grandchildren.

2 begat 12 begat 72



With a birthrate of around 1.5 children per female, it takes 18 Brits to make 12 kids. If their offspring avegage the same, you get


18 begat 12 begat 8






This is how it works folks...

2 immigrants, 12 kids, 72 grandkids


vs.

18 Brits, 12 kids, 8 grandkids





72>8 Islam wins.





We really are gambling big time on our civilization. The neo-cons, fools that they are, are really gambling big time on any kind of world hegemony and the security of Israel. By simply breeding aggressively, paid for by the dying Euro and Judaic races in the West, Islam can take over the whole damned planet in about 150 years..............

Anonymous said...

Is this really true? Its so over the top, especially that condom bit.

I think it's standard practice for the more lowbrow British papers to "improve" quotes.

Anonymous said...

Did Mike Brady on the BRADY BUNCH have a job? He seemed to be around the house a lot.

"Mike Brady" was a fictional character on TELEVISION.

"Mohammed Salim" is a cartoon character, but unfortunately a very REAL one at that.

What's your point, Mr. "Cherry Picker"?

Anonymous said...

If you go to London, you should ride the Docklands Light Rail into Canary Wharf. There's only 2 kind of people on that train: rich investment bankers in crisp suits, and extremely disheveled looking second generation Bangladeshis all with beards like Osama. Canary Wharf is the new financial district, built on the Isle of Dogs, which used to be as bad as it sounds. The rest of East London is pretty shabby, formerly home to Jews during WWII, and now home to Bangladeshis who pack the many council estates (public housing projects).

Anonymous said...

Mr Cherry Picker sez:

My point is COMEDY GOLD.

A brit com with David Jason reprising his 'Darling Buds of May' Pop Larkin role .. with a turban.

Maybe a salute to Fred MacMurray in the title, My Five Mohammeds. In the pilot Maryam hears that her brother Mohammed thinks she needs to be honour-killed. Hilarity ensues as she tries to figure out which one.

Anonymous said...

There is a Canadian sitcom about a Muslim family, Little Mosque on the Praire. From what I understand, the family depicted are lovely people, with both parents gainfully employed, and the hilarity tends to involve the behavior of other Canadians.

Anonymous said...

Neocons like Pat Moynihan?

Anonymous said...

Mike Brady was an architect. Duh! Don't you remember him working in his study?

More interestingly, didn't Robert Reed, the actor who played Mr. Brady, turn out to be a homosexual?

Anonymous said...

anonymous said: "With a birthrate of around 1.5 children per female, it takes 18 Brits to make 12 kids."

Can someone please explain that to me. If 9 fathers and 9 mothers make 1.5 children per couple, isn't that 13.5 children?

Anonymous said...

Mr and Mrs Salim appear to have been unusually fecund by any standards.

This demographic research paper shows estimated total fertility rates for different ethnic groups in Britain from 1965 to 2001:

http://www.ccsr.ac.uk/events/segint/workshops/documents/CCSRWorkshop2007-FertilityandMortality.pdf