October 6, 2011

Mitt Romney's foreign policy advisers

Mitt Romney announced his shadow national security council to advise him on foreign policy. How many of these people were against the Iraq Attaq? Any of them? How many were with the Project for a New American Century? Don't these people have a college football team they could root for instead of starting wars?

By the way, remember how Mormons like Brent Scowcroft used to have a bit of a leg up in national security and FBI circles because Mormons were seen as unlikely to have close family ties to foreign countries? Well, it's good to see that the Mormon Bias in foreign policy has largely been eradicated and now we finally have a foreign policy establishment that Looks Like America.

SPECIAL ADVISERS 
Cofer Black
Christopher Burnham
Michael Chertoff
Eliot Cohen
Norm Coleman
John Danilovich
Paula Dobriansky
Eric Edelman 
Michael Hayden
Kerry Healey
Kim Holmes
Robert Joseph
Robert Kagan
John Lehman
Walid Phares

WORKING GROUPS 

Afghanistan & Pakistan
James Shinn, Co-Chair
Ashley Tellis, Co-Chair

Africa
Tibor Nagy, Chair 

Asia-Pacific
Evan Feigenbaum, Co-Chair
Aaron Friedberg, Co-Chair 
Kent Lucken, Co-Chair

Counter-Proliferation
Eric Edelman, Co-Chair
Robert Joseph, Co-Chair
Stephen Rademaker, Co-Chair

Counterterrorism/Intelligence
Michael Chertoff, Co-Chair
Michael Hayden, Co-Chair

Defense
John Lehman, Co-Chair
Roger Zakheim, Co-Chair

Europe
Nile Gardiner, Co-Chair
Kristen Silverberg, Co-Chair

Human Rights
Pierre Prosper, Chair

International Assistance
Grant Aldonas, Co-Chair
Daniel Runde, Co-Chair

International Organizations
Christopher Burnham, Co-Chair
Paula Dobriansky, Co-Chair
Robert O'Brien, Co-Chair

142 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hmmm. "Tibor Nagy is a Hungarian sprint canoer who competed in the early to mid 1970s. He won a gold medal in the K-4 10000 m at the 1973 ICF Canoe Sprint World Championships in Tampere"--should make up for Cohen/Dobriansky/Kagan. Mittmania here I come

Felix said...

So it's like 80% Jewish.

revolving door said...

Callista Gingrich was overlooked, again, despite her new children's book. Of course, if the progressive strategists talking down Herm and talking up Newt can be trusted (and I assume they can be) we'll finally get some Catholics back in the White House

Anonymous said...

Don't you get it, Steve? It's called a meritocracy. Don't be jealous just because these people have so much more merit than you.

Truth said...

You, Mr. "IQ trumps everything" is lamenting the most intelligent race getting the most important jobs?

Anonymous said...

"You, Mr. 'IQ trumps everything' is lamenting the most intelligent race getting the most important jobs?"

Which ones are Asians? I'm not a political insider.

JJ said...

The country is doomed. We'll have war until Jesus comes home (or the economy collapses, whichever).

Half Sigma said...

Which ones are Asians? I'm not a political insider.

Ashkenazim have the highest IQ.

Anonymous said...

"Ashkenazim have the highest IQ."

Oh, I know that. Are they really a race, though?

gcochran said...

These guys are proven fools. That's the problem.

Anonymous said...

"Ashkenazim have the highest IQ."


Sure, it shows.

Hard Cider said...

Still too many WASPs, Steve. How can my Scots-Irish kinsmen ever breathe free while the WASP Harvard Mafia maintains its iron grip on power?

jody said...

"You, Mr. "IQ trumps everything" is lamenting the most intelligent race getting the most important jobs?"

they aren't THAT smart, is the point. they aren't so smart that only they, and nobody else, could ever hold these jobs.

it's like cornerback in the NFL. a totally artificial monopoly. sure they are better person for person but LOL! they aren't 64 out of 64 starters better, against the entire rest of the field, every year, over and over and over, forever.

in fact it's a lot like the NFL. these proven political busts gets recycled again and again here. the same guys who have shown they can't do it simply keep coming back. as with some of these NFL players who get chance after ridiculous, undeserved chance, i guess these political analysts have "potential" still. like, if you just turned them upside down and shook them REALLY HARD, some of that potential would finally drop out. but you have to give them 5, 6, 7 chances first.

we already know "for sure", ahead of time, that other people have no talent or potential for this kind of thing, so they get 0 chances.

Garland said...

You, Mr. "IQ trumps everything" is lamenting the most intelligent race getting the most important jobs?

Actually Sailer frequently points out that IQ isnt everything (his emphasis on it is because it is because it his beat and because it is so pathologically denied in most punditry). And this is a case in point: national loyalty is also nice. Which is the most nationally loyal race?

Anonymous said...

You guys sound like bunch of sour grapes. Jews are now the ruling elite class in America, of course they are going to be over represented in key policy making positions. What is the point of being an elite class if being part of one didn't provide any benefits?

Nobody handed this to them on the silver platter. They fought hard to get there. These guys were studying and working hard while you guys were doing coke and dancing to the Beegees. 30 years later, the results are in: you guys sit behind your computers make sour grape posts while they rule the world. Get off the pity pot and man up!

Anonymous said...

Seems like a lot of people missed the point of this post.

It seems to me that the "Look like America" is only for jobs that the elite don't want. The fire dept needs the benefits that come with diversity but the top echelons don't.

Anonymous said...

"Jews are now the ruling elite class in America, of course they are going to be over represented in key policy making positions."

When they fill 100% of these positions, will they at least stop kvetching about their persecution by those anti-Semitic [any nationality], won't they?

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure what Kapporos is all about but I do wonder if they eventually found the rubber chicken with the pulley in the middle.

albert magnus said...

Chertoff was Bush's point man on his comprehensive immugration reform bill. Exciting he shows up twice.

Anonymous said...

Iran, here we come. ^_^

IHTG said...

I'm not sure what Kapporos is all about but I do wonder if they eventually found the rubber chicken with the pulley in the middle.

You fight like a dairy farmer

Hunsdon said...

Half Sigma said: Which ones are Asians? I'm not a political insider.

Ashkenazim have the highest IQ.

Hunsdon replied: Given the number of PNAC supporters, generally lumpable under the rubric of neocons, I am confronted with an unpleasant either/or choice.

EITHER the Ashkenazim really aren't that smart OR they really aren't that loyal to the US. Of course there's the old saw "Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity," but you assure us that they're the big brains in the room.

Or as a hipster might say, "How's that whole Operation Iraqi Liberation thing working out for you?"

Anonymous said...

yet another thing to blame clinton for - he is the one who broke the taboo/rule at the state department about not having those likely to have 'passionate foreign attachments' advising on said foreign nation.
to put it bluntly he kicked the old arabist wasps(arabist in modern speak just means not pro israel) out and stacked the state department with jews. At one point one of his nominations up for approval had a choice between ... five jews..

anony-mouse said...

No connection to foreign countries?

Mitt Romney's father was born in Mexico. Yes that Mexico.

Just using your logic.

Chicago said...

Chertoff, again? He must be some indispensable mastermind, like a bad penny that always turns up.
It's not how smart these advisors are, it's what their politics are and to what ends they'll use their supposed talents. Do they have a list of countries that haven't been bombed by us yet that are in line to get the treatment? If so I hope they'll share it with us so we'll know exactly what we're buying into should Romney become the standard-bearer.

Anonymous said...

So Romney has already been appointed president?

RKU said...

Well, maybe that black pizza guy will save us all...

TGGP said...

I don't recognize most of the names. But of the ones I do recognize, I get no reassurance.

Wandrin said...

That list is almost a spoof. Let's hope America goes broke before they can do too much damage.

rec1man said...

Ashley Tellis is an Indian

Kucinich has a Hot Wife said...

Between the Neocon GOP, liberal DEMs and the MSM like the NYT at the time I can only think of handful of public figures that honestly and actively opposed our invasion of Iraq in 2003. This despite the historically massive public protests in the US and worldwide against invasion before the vote to do so.

This excludes opportunistic minority DEMs at the time who exploited popular opposition for their own individual ends. These individuals like Obama and Clinton only speechified and/or have consistently voted for needless intervention and wars before and/or since.

According to Wikipedia, the leading active opponents of the Iraq invasion at the time were:

* Ron Paul (running 2012)

* Ted Kennedy (with Elvis)

* Howard Dean (retired)

* Al Gore (VC now monitizing government graft via carbon credits scheme)

* Dennis Kucinich (with hot wife #3)

* Ralph Nader (laying low)

This helps explains why the Dean Scream was replayed an amazing 633 times by national news networks within 4 days (and many more times by local news, talk shows and others following the non-story). Never was it explained that Dean was shouting over a loud crowd that the unidirectional mic didn't pickup. Keep in mind, Dean was the leading DEM candidate before the evening of the Iowa primary when he surprisingly came in 3rd.

Anonymous said...

Wikipedia says that Nile Gardiner is British. Do you think that the campaign should have checked the nationality of these advisors beforehand?

Rohan Swee said...

Anonymous@2:25: What is the point of being an elite class if being part of one didn't provide any benefits?

Nobody handed this to them on the silver platter. They fought hard to get there.

As your brother anon pointed out, you missed the punchline, but I'm curious to know how you figure that people who are utter fools at what they do - the indisputable truth
uttered by gc@1:36 - constitute an elite?

What do you think an elite is? What puts the "merit" in "meritocracy", and why do the non-elite majority support an elite class? (Hint: because there's something in it for them, too.) We're not talking about a roster of Nobel physics laureates here.

Appointing or tolerating an elite political class via divine right of kings or scapulomancy or coin-tossing is slightly less daft than tolerating chronic destructive incompetence from the "best and brightest". (Apparently because you keep thinking that the "but not" in "necessary but not sufficient" is not a fancy way of saying "and".)

Bourbon said...

(The following is a parody of Whiskey and not intended to be taken seriously.)

Steve, sometimes I get tired of having to explain the intricacies of global grand strategy to you, with your child-like understanding of how the world works. It’s pretty simple: Romney is a BETA. And women hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, HATE BETAS. Romney, with his puny $250 million net worth and history of leadership in consulting and private equity, stinks of BETA. In fact, he’s been married to the same woman since 1969 and like the uber-BETA he is, he’s fathered five sons like a damn LOSER. And he’s a MORMON, which is also BETA. He’s the Anakin Skywalker of BETA-tivity, his BETA readings are off the charts.

Romney knows that a BETA cannot be elected because women want SEXY, dangerous, ALPHA men. He also knows that as a BETA, he cannot possibly stand up to the existential threat posed by illiterate Muslim goat herders who are precariously positioned only 6,000 miles from the U.S. Unlike you and paleocon SISSIES like Pat Buchanon, Romney knows you can’t protect America from the Islamofascist THREAT simply by keeping Muslims from entering the U.S., but he also knows that no BETA like him can do what needs to be done.

Romney realizes that in order to be elected and prevent New York City from being NUKED into another dimension, he needs to THUG IT UP to distract people from his BETA-ness. So he turns to this group of bad ass, ultra-manly, super-ALPHA Jew…er, Scots-Irish like John Lehman and Norm Coleman to intimidate the TRIBES WITH NUKES and get women voters’ JUICES flowing. Which is SMART. Because it’s self-evident that only guys like Robert Kagan and Eliot Cohen are manly enough to prevent us all from being sodomized to death in our own homes by nuclear-armed Taliban fighters. It’s just OBVIOUS.

Honestly, Steve, you are so naive, it’s just tiresome sometimes. You have a lot to learn, Steve. Also you’re a BETA.

Steve Sailer said...

I never got the dumping of Howard Dean. The Dean Scream sounded like a high school sports coach, which Dean was, and isn't a bad thing to have on a candidate's resume. He looks more like Presidential timber to me than Kerry did. He went on to be a highly successful DNC chairman. What was that all about anyway?

Anonymous said...

@steveWhat was that all about anyway?
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bjdubbs said...

I've always ignored Whiskey, but now that I've read the parody, it all makes sense, lol.

David said...

>Do they have a list of countries that haven't been bombed by us yet that are in line to get the treatment?<

Aa a matter of fact, they do: Syria and (the big one) Iran. And Egypt and Turkey if they don't fly right.

>coin-tossing is slightly less daft than tolerating chronic destructive incompetence from the "best and brightest"<

They are perfectly competent and successful. They are accomplishing their aims very well.

Maybe they will throw a sop to the goyim and put another gentile on the list. Herman Cain.

Anonymous said...

"Get off the pity pot and man up!"

Part of being a man includes bravery in battle. How many of these people are going to send their sons into war?

Anonymous said...

There are lots of intelligent evil people out there. Just a reminder, you IQ fetishists.

Truth said...

"it's like cornerback in the NFL. a totally artificial monopoly. sure they are better person for person but LOL! they aren't 64 out of 64 starters better, against the entire rest of the field, every year, over and over and over, forever."

How many of the top 64 US physicists are black?...Mestizo?...Native American...Italian American...?

Georgia Resident said...

"They fought hard to get there."

And the English fought hard to conquer my Scottish and Irish ancestors. Doesn't mean I have to like it. And my ancestors fought hard to defeat the Amerindians who wanted the same real estate as us, a fact that I have no shame over. But I don't expect them to like it either.

Anonymous said...

"I don't recognize most of the names. But of the ones I do recognize, I get no reassurance."

Exactly my thoughts.

Ahmedinejad should start some second-hand iron and lead outlet, because plenty will fall from the sky in the near future.

Kylie said...

Bourbon,

Brilliant!

I especially liked the "illiterate Muslim goat herders who are precariously positioned only 6,000 miles from the U.S.".

Jeff said...

My sense was that Howard Dean was not judged to be 100% reliable by the big-money donors. He had been the governor of Vermont, and he was not part of the Washington in-crowd.

As president, he might actually have ended the war in Iraq, a decision that would have negative consequences for the military-industrial complex, the banks, and super-wealthy investors.

So the powers that be decided that Dean should be eliminated, and they got the media to ridicule him using a film clip. That's all it took. A lot of problems are easy to solve when you control the media.

Anonymous said...

They are perfectly competent and successful. They are accomplishing their aims very well.

This is true, considering that a major part of their aims involves attaining powerful advising positions where they can impart great influence.

Paul Mendez said...

So Romney has already been appointed president?

Pretty much.

I see no plausible scenario that does not culminate with The Mittster taking the oath of office January 2013.

Chief Seattle said...

The only thing going for us against the invade-the-world crowd is that Mitt Romney's not as lazy as the previous and current president. Plus he's got his own religion with its promised land... not in the middle east. One assumes he knows who's calling the shots and will play them to get elected - but that once he is he's not really going want his legacy to be yet another patsy for a crowd of zionists.

Anonymous said...

"Romney vows U.S. military supremacy if elected"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/07/usa-campaign-romney-idUSN1E79611720111007

"* Pledges 'American century'

* Says would review U.S. troop pullout in Afghanistan

* Counterweight to China, Russia"

Mr. Anon said...

"albert magnus said...

Chertoff was Bush's point man on his comprehensive immugration reform bill. Exciting he shows up twice."

Chertoff - who looks like the Grim Reaper by the way - was also one of the principal authors of the (so-called) Patriot Act. And as Secretary of Homeland Security, he pushed the adoption of full-body scanners by the TSA, then, after he had left office, he profited from that decision as a lobbyist for the company that makes them. He is also rumored to be a dual national, holding both U.S. and Israeli citizenship (although I can't vouch for the veracity of that claim). All-in-all, a choice creep: a soft, wimpy exponent of the police state.

Cofer Black, former CEO of Blackwater Security, is listed as being one of Romney's advisors too. Nother milquetoast with an iron boot.

I saw a clip of Romney addressing some military audience in South Carolina (perhaps it was at the Citadel). He promised more of the same: an eternal busy-body military and diplomatic presence in the middle-east, promoting greater ties with Israel, yada, yada, yada.

bing'scaddie said...

OMG!, Cofer black went to the same school as Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Dwight Chapin, and Donald Segretti.

beowulf said...

"Wikipedia says that Nile Gardiner is British. Do you think that the campaign should have checked the nationality of these advisors beforehand?"

Since we share practically all of our national security secrets with the British, Canadian and Australian governments, their citizens are treated differently than other countries' in terms of govt employment. The insurmountable obstacle faced by, say, a David Frum-led Canadian spy ring is the fact its just demoralizing to waste hours and days trying to sneak out secret documents when the White House will simply forward Stephen Harper anything he asks for anyway. Besides Frum, who was a Bush White House aide before he became a US citizen, another example was Secretary of State Rice's top counterinsurgency advisor, Australian Army Colonel David Kilcullen.

But this reminds me, it was a dick move (and possibly in violation of EU civil rights laws) for the British Home Secretary Theresa May to arbitrarily add a UK citizen-only requirement for hiring the new head of Scotland Yard. It was clearly a pretext for blackballing PM Cameron's pick, former NYPD and LAPD honcho Bill Bratton. Apparently she thought there was someone in the world (albeit with UK citizenship) who'd make a better police chief. That her brain even conjured the thought suggests she's a mental defective.

Whiskey said...

So lets imagine after 9/11, we don't invade Iraq. What then? Saddam racing towards nukes, pushing Iran even faster on that, America looking WEAK, and Pakistan with nukes falling into AQ clutches even more?

With a barely minimal action, invading Iraq, Pakistan still sheltered bin Laden, protected him, and has staged terrorist attacks on our embassy in Kabul according to Mullen.

Damn straight you better have some fear instilled into leaders (down to the tribal level) of Pakistan, Iran, and other places. Leave Saddam alone? The only way that made sense was to trick Saddam into launching another war with Iran, destroy two enemies with one blow. Given that even Saddam could learn, that wasn't likely, far more was Clinton's assessment that Saddam and AQ were cooperating multiplied by ten.

Whiskey said...

My critique of Steve and other hard-core Ron Paul Libertarians is that they want a magic bullet or magic land or search for original sin without which America would be the land of milk and chocolate. And that's just not conversant with reality.

America has vital interests in the ME, mainly keeping oil cheap. Maybe in ten years IF we ever develop our internal oil we can let the entire ME go hang, absent nukes which Pakistan has over 100 now, and Iran will soon have. But not until then. If the Greens/Saudis ever let us.

Why the hell did Osama dare attack us, the Taliban OK it, the Iranians and Pakistanis attack us, and Saddam defy us? Lack of fear, what else. Pulling Saddam from the Spider-hole, and hanging him, brought fear to people who ought to fear us. It bought us time, which is now largely been spent.

There is a reason almost no one opposed the Iraq War -- it was supposed to be a cakewalk. Which in destroying Saddam's Army it was. We destroyed his army in about three weeks. We just could not deal with an insurgency that produced mild casualties compared to WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. Lesson: we break it, they own it.

Saddam had to go. He had to be made an example of. Bad people who are our enemies need to fear us. There is not any political support for another occupation, and yes it is idiocy to suggest that Arabs/muslims can become like the Swiss. Or even the Thais. But even Obama has embraced the politics of fear -- he's zapping people globally with drones armed with Hellfire missiles, and doing a disguised removal of another cheap/easy example (Khadaffi).

Don't forget Saddam basically called the US Bluff. He kicked out inspectors, started to re-arm, and made moves to dominate the Gulf. America no longer (being "diverse" and all) has the margin to play Pearl Harbor catch-up, America either retreats into some Paul-driven fantasy of splendid isolation with Pakistan's nukes hanging over us (yes of course, Pakistani LOVE US and NEVER do anything bad to us!) or does something. The lesson is, never occupy, just break nations.

Whiskey said...

As far as Mitt Romney being "Beta," well yes that's true. He is not seen by crucial swing voters (White women) as being masculine, dominant, the Alpha asshole that they love and crave. Roissy is correct, in love as in politics, women crave that guy. Which Rockstar/Celebrity Obama is, like it or not.

Another four years of Obama will be very bad for me. Therefore I'd want Romney to toughen up. Be less the nice, nerdy, Beta male "nice guy" that turns women voters off, and more the Scott Brown A-hole/hunk that women crave. Plus generate a lot of female celebrity approval, this is more important than you think since most women voters make decisions (and have since Warren G. Harding) on looks, dominance, and masculine assertiveness. Hence the advice from Naomi Wolf to Gore to be the Alpha Male by wearing earth tones, and the disastrous and mocked macking on Tipper Gore.

Anonymous said...

RKU: Well, maybe that black pizza guy will save us all...

I saw ol' Ben Stein on one of those Fox channels recently [Fox News? Fox Business?], and he could not possibly have been more condescending towards Herman Cain, or towards his [Stein's] Fox colleague, Charles Payne [who was trying to defend Cain].

Seems the Neocons definitely have it out for the Schwartzes this election cycle.

Svigor said...

I never got the dumping of Howard Dean. The Dean Scream sounded like a high school sports coach, which Dean was, and isn't a bad thing to have on a candidate's resume. He looks more like Presidential timber to me than Kerry did. He went on to be a highly successful DNC chairman. What was that all about anyway?

The megaphone. Dean was leading an insurgency and making dangerous noise about Iraq Attaq II. So the media played it over and over until the sheep got the message: it meant he was crazy.

Don't underestimate the tendency of people to "get the message" even when it makes no sense (the media saying it makes it make sense); people trust the authority of the media, even when they say otherwise.

Of course there was nothing wrong with the Dean Scream, per se.

Anonymous said...

How many of the top 64 US physicists are black?...Mestizo?...Native American...Italian American...?

I don't know about nowadays, but, back in the day, there were guys like Marconi and Fermi and [from right across the Adriatic] Tesla.

I don't know what happened to the physics* tradition from that part of the world, but my guess is that it fell victim to extinction-level fertility rates.


*The Derb once pointed out to me that Lagrange was born in Turin [as Giuseppe Lodovico Lagrangia], so the nation was even good in mathematics in the not-so-distant past.

Heck, Bombieri was born in Milan, in 1940.

But I think those fertility rates have just destroyed the Italian people.

Anonymous said...

You, Mr. "IQ trumps everything" is lamenting the most intelligent race getting the most important jobs?

What good does high IQ do America if it is used to advance Israel's interest at the expense of America's? Yes Ashkenazi Jews are the most intelligent gene pool which is how a tiny subset of them very skillfully manipulated the Bush administration and the American public into removing Israel's potential threat Saddam Hussein from power. This was a very brilliant move by pro-Israel people because Israel reaped the benefits while America endured the considerable cost and indeed has never fully recovered.

It's only natural that people are going to put their ethnic interests above their national interests (when these conflict). All ethnic groups do this, but only Jews have the intelligence (and as a corollary the money and power) to do it on such an epic scale. What is needed is a president who supports Israel but will put American interests first which is why I support Ron Paul.

JSM said...

"How many of the top 64 US physicists are black?...Mestizo?...Native American...Italian American...?"

Wasn't it you, Truth, that was scrambling so hard a few months ago to assure me that Neil Degrasse Tyson is a top U.S physicist, when I was lamenting there aren't any top black U.S. physicists?

Dennis Dale said...

I never got the dumping of Howard Dean. The Dean Scream sounded like a high school sports coach, which Dean was, and isn't a bad thing to have on a candidate's resume. He looks more like Presidential timber to me than Kerry did. He went on to be a highly successful DNC chairman. What was that all about anyway?

I never got it either. He looked distressingly manic after he had taken an unexpected shellacking--he was like Tom Cruise in Magnolia for a minute there, everything but the headset, but still.

Maybe it was just the combined sins of Looking Bad on Television and Losing. Nobody likes either.

Maybe it's just that we're accustomed now to the use of sampling in music, and associated tendency toward a lot of quick-cutting in tv and film, conveying information in compact little bursts the effectiveness of which is somewhat random. And Dean's howl was sampled immediately everywhere to great ridicule.

Damn it that's it--Howard Dean was the first political leader destroyed by sampling!

Geoff Matthews said...

"By the way, remember how Mormons like Brent Scowcroft used to have a bit of a leg up in national security and FBI circles because Mormons were seen as unlikely to have close family ties to foreign countries?"

You know, I don't remember that ever being said, but I don't run in those kind of circles either.

Anonymous said...

Crude estimate:

Say that Jews are 3 percent of the population (self-identified Jews are 1.5% of U.S population, but the way Jewish is defined in the public discourse includes part-Jewish and atheist Jews).

Say that jews are one standard deviation above the population mean in verbal-analytical I.Q.
One S.D is towards the higher range of estimates, the difference is probably not that big, especially if we include part-Jews.

Say that the distribution of talent is normal.

If the threshold for verbal-analytical I.Q to be foreign policy advisor is 145, 34% should be Jewish.

Even if the threshold for I.Q were 160, 57% should be Jewish.

If they are 80%, there is a bias, even taking into account I.Q advantage of Jews. We didn't even make any adjustment for the left-leaning bias of Jews.

Anonymous said...

The more I see of Romney (and Perry, for that matter), the more I like Ron Paul. 2nd choice would have to be Herman Cain.

The grass-roots Republicans hate Romney. But we hated McCain too, and the establishment managed to nominate him.

Of course, McCain lost, partly because the Republican troops had zero enthusiasm.

I'm afraid the fix is in again. I keep reading that with Christie out of the race, all the big money is going to Romney. 4 more years of war, war, war. 4 more years of liberal social policy. 4 more years of budget busting. 4 more years of government growth.

This is just sad for my late, beloved USA. If Romney wins, RIP, America.

Anonymous said...

“How many of the top 64 US physicists are black?...Mestizo?...Native American...Italian American...?”

Since 1980, the U.S has received about 40 noble prizes in physics. 3 (Rubbia, Phillips, Giacconi) were Italian-American. If you go back further you have Emilio Gino Segrè and Fermi.

There is also one Hispanic Nobel prize winner in Physics: Luiz Walter Alvarez, 1968, though he is white Spanish.

Black, Native American or Mestizo? None. Italian or Spanish? A fair amount.

Anonymous said...

Looking at that list, I'm reminded (again) of the distinction between credentialism and genuine intelligence and accomplishment.

Michael Chertoff, for instance:

went to the Jewish Educational Center in Elizabeth as well as the Pingry School. He later attended Harvard College, where he was a research assistant on John Hart Ely's book Democracy and Distrust, graduating in 1975 and then spending one year at the London School of Economics and Political Science in the United Kingdom. He then graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School in 1978, going on to clerk for appellate judge Murray Gurfein for a year before clerking for United States Supreme Court Justice William Brennan from 1979 to 1980. He worked in private practice with Latham & Watkins from 1980 to 1983 before being hired as a prosecutor by Rudolph Giuliani, then the U.S. attorney for Manhattan, working on Mafia and political corruption-related cases. In the mid 1990s, Chertoff returned to Latham & Watkins for a brief period, founding the firm's office in Newark, New Jersey.


He's never actually done anything worthwhile in his entire life, but he sure knows what boxes to check to build the sort of resume which impresses our credentialocracy.

In a genuine meritocracy those with merit accomplish something noteworthy, like building the Panama Canal.

In a credentialocracy people are considered impressive and meritorious if they attended the London School of Economics!

Anonymous said...

Jody makessome great points but cornerback is a fast twitch position hence the brothers rIke the day. The NFL is a meritocracy.

Agreed if Jews would represent in the armed forces it would make the list more palatable.

Dan in DC

H.J. Simpson said...

Ah, Tibor... how many times have you saved my butt?

clean for Dean said...

1 more right-winger here who thinks Howie was quite underrated. Then again, Vt. is a nothing state... Dean's heel was his mix of overclass insulation with that peculiar form of unfounded arrogance endemic to Ben & Jerry Land (cf. both their Senators). Also: props to Hard Cider's hilarious comment above

Anonymous said...

"I see no plausible scenario that does not culminate with The Mittster taking the oath of office January 2013."

The shocking emergence and popularity of Buddy Roemer!

Oh wait, plausible, sigh.

Seriously though, we should at least get to see this guy in the debates.

Alat said...

Mitt Romney's father was born in Mexico.

And yet there's no Advisor for Latin American Affairs in the list...

Dennis Dale said...

"it's like cornerback in the NFL. a totally artificial monopoly. sure they are better person for person but LOL! they aren't 64 out of 64 starters better, against the entire rest of the field, every year, over and over and over, forever."

How many of the top 64 US physicists are black?...Mestizo?...Native American...Italian American...?


Wait a minute! Who's the "HBDer" and who's the liberal? G--dammit you guys get back in line!

"Dogs & cats, living together..."

NOTA said...

Jeff:

I have often wondered about that. The looping of the excerpted weird sounding scream from his speech is of a piece with the massive pro-Iraq-war slant running up to the war, the downplaying of antiwar protests, the blackholing of the preemptive arrests at the RNC in 2008, the blackholing on broadcast news of the pentagon military advisors scandal, the systematic reporting of racially motivated hate crimes only when done by whites, and dozens of other things. There are times when bits of the respectable US MSM does real reporting, even breaks huge scandals. But there ate other times when it works remarkably like a propaganda organ.

NOTA said...

Paul:

I know this is pretentious, but I was thinking maybe we could hear from a few voters before we assume too much.

TGGP said...

The Dean scream was amusing, but nothing really wrong with it. Can you see Romney doing it?

Anonymous said...

Hmm.

this ups my opinion of romney.

really, any government full of smart jews will do well.

Any government full of smart people will.

Captain Jack Aubrey said...

"Ashkenazim have the highest IQ."

The Ashkenazim who DID lead us into Iraq, or the ones who DIDN'T?

Ashkenazi Jews are like 80% Democrats. After subtracting all the ones who are Democrats, and all the ones who pushed us into Iraq, how many does that leave who could potentially comprise a plausible Romney foreign policy team?

Oh, you mean HE DIDN'T exclude the ones who puhed us into Iraq? Well nevermind then.

(For the record I'm not sure this list is as Jewish as perhaps some think. Depsite his surname and previous profession, I don't think Lehman is Jewish, but I dined at the table next to him in Sun Valley once, and his wife was a complete bitch.)

Captain Jack Aubrey said...

But the real question is: who on the list is really important, and who is just there for diversity's sake?

Jewish firms in Old World Europe used to often install "paradegoyim" on boards and high management, to make the company look less Jewish. They were tokens, only.

Who are the tokens on Mitt's list? It includes Kerry Healey. What special foreign policy knowledge or interest does Gov. Healey have? Then there's the Haitian, Pierre Prosper, on "human rights." Do you think human rights are of any real concern to Mitt, and is there any reason they should be?

If there's ever a gathering of the "special advisers," I suspect that Robert Kagan, Eliot Cohen, and Michael Chertoff are each gunna spend a lot more than 6.6% of the time talking, and Healey will be lucky to speak 0.6%, assuming she even wants to.

The actual list isn't THAT Jewish. But remove the people who don't really matter...

Bourbon said...

Whiskey, you are the gift that keeps on giving. I don't even know why I bother trying to parody you. The reality is more absurd than any parody I can come up with. It's futile and I give up.

I'm going to have to call in back up from my pal, the Warrior of the Wasteland, Lord Humungus.

Lord Humungus said...

Whiskey, be still my dog of war! We're here with a purpose. I understand your pain. We've all lost someone we love.

But we do it my way! We do it my way!

Fear is our ally...the gasoline will be ours. Then you shall have your revenge.

Anonymous said...

Lots of jealous people in this thread. If you're a powerless loser you only have yourself to blame.

Hail said...

Wandrin wrote: "That list is almost a spoof."

A nice way to put it.

I could imagine that if Tanstaafl published a satire magazine, he would concoct a very similar list.

Anonymous said...

"The Dean scream was amusing, but nothing really wrong with it. Can you see Romney doing it?"

No, thankfully, I can't see Romney doing it.

Jonathan said...

"Therefore I'd want Romney to toughen up. Be less the nice, nerdy, Beta male "nice guy" that turns women voters off, and more the Scott Brown A-hole/hunk that women crave."

With that reasoning, we will end up with
President Camacho
in no time.

jody said...

when a new white teammate comes in from the draft or a trade, and outperforms him by a good amount on the field. you think every one of them takes that in stride? you think they just say to themselves "Hey, better for the team, we can win with this guy!" LOL. let's go back to reality. half of them are like that, and the other half, well, that scenario engages their "burning hatred mode". it's similar to "beast mode" that the kids talk about. except instead of being productive, it's wildly counterproductive to team play.

a lot of non-sensical NFL coaching and drafting and roster decisions, where a clearly better white player is demoted, benched, or even traded, in favor of a clearly inferior black player, begins to make a lot more sense from this reality perspective. a thorough study of the dynamics of any establishment, once it become majority africans, is a good place to start learning about how meritocracy goes straight out the window under these conditions. it need not be sports, it could be any organization. but it was easy to see in track & field, and easy to see in football.

Anonymous said...

So lets imagine after 9/11, we don't invade Iraq. What then?

Whiskey, you just don't get it. If America hadn't been so loyal in protecting Israel (including through sanctions against Iraq), there never would have been a 9/11. I don't think it's a coincidence that the financial buildings of New York city were the targets of attack. There was a time when America was wildly popular in the Arab world, but now it is just seen as a puppet for Israel. The war on terror is simply the Israeli-Palestinian conflict writ large. America's support for Israel has become a strategic, financial, military, diplomatic, and security liability that the country can longer afford (especially after defending Israel in Iraq). Netanyahu is very skilled at using his high IQ to manipulate Americans into thinking Israel and the U.S. share common interests and have the same enemies, but the primary reason America has those enemies is because of America's support for Israel. It's not because Arabs hate America's freedom and secularism as the high IQ Ashkenazi media manipulates people into thinking.

beowulf said...

The lesson is, never occupy, just break nations.

No, the lesson is your untreated mental illness isn't getting better, but it IS getting funnier. You should marry the chick burglar who claimed she did it to support her porn (aka meth) habit.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/teen-girl-porn-addict-876542

beowulf said...

I don't know what happened to the physics* tradition from that part of the world... But I think those fertility rates have just destroyed the Italian people.

I don't usually point out well known historical events by means of Spike Lee movie clips, but this is a special case (the Kraut bastards and their black man's kryptonite don't show up until about 4:00 in).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q6cSDt-__I

beowulf said...

Mitt Romney's father was born in Mexico.

Wow, that just melted my brain!
Let me spell this out: Our first African-American President is on track to lose to our first Hispanic President.
1. Per Census/OMB definition, Romney is Hispanic because he "can trace [his] origin or descent to Mexico..."
2. Under the Mexican Constitution, Romney is a natural born Mexican citizen. But for the pesky 20 yr residency requirement, he could run for President of Mexico tomorrow.

The term "Hispanic" refers to persons who trace their origin or descent to Mexico, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Central and South America, and other Spanish cultures.
http://tinyurl.com/ouk9hw

The constitution declares that Mexicans by birth—that is, natural born Mexicans—are:
those individuals born in Mexican territory regardless of the nationality of their parents; [and]
** those individuals born abroad if one or both of their parents was a Mexican national born in Mexican territory...

http://tinyurl.com/3ckf7yt

To be eligible to run for president, the following requirements must be met:
Be a natural-born citizen of Mexico... with at least one parent who is a natural-born citizen of Mexico.
Be a resident of Mexico for at least two decades (20 years).

http://tinyurl.com/n36kc

Anonymous said...

Any list including Romney's former Lt. Gov. Kerry "Muffy" Healey really can't be taken seriously. The only skill she brings to the table is marrying a rich hedge fund guy.

Anonymous said...

Chertoff - who looks like the Grim Reaper by the way

At my house, we call him Squidward.

Hunsdon said...

Whiskey said: So lets imagine after 9/11, we don't invade Iraq. What then? Saddam racing towards nukes, pushing Iran even faster on that, America looking WEAK, and Pakistan with nukes falling into AQ clutches even more?

Hunsdon replied: Whiskey, do you have any evidence---any---that Saddam was racing towards nukes in 2001? Or are you just goebbelsing again?

Captain Jack Aubrey said...

Rough, back-of-the-donut napkin calculation: Jews are ~2% of the adult population. 80% of them are Democrats. Roughly half of Americans are Republican.

(20%*2%)/50% = (.2 * 0.02)/.50 = .008 = 0.8%

In other words if Mitt Romney had 125 people on his foreign policy team one would "expect" exactly 1 would be Jewish.

There are 29 people on this list. Many here assume that people with names like Dobriansky, Joseph, Nagy and Lehman are all or partly Jewish. I haven't read the latest press release on Who's-a-Jew, but just looking at those who definitely are - Chertoff, Cohen, Coleman, Edelman, Kagan, Feigenbaum, Friedberg, Zakheim, and Silverberg - I count 9 Jews. I suppose there's a good chance that four others - Dobriansky, Danilovich, Nagy, and Joseph - also are. So the list is 30-40% Jewish, versus their 0.8% "expected" representation. On Mitt Romney's foreign policy team Jews are therefore overrepresented 40-50x their numbers.

Of note: Pierre Prosper is actually black of Haitian dissent; Ashley Tellis is neither a woman nor a WASP, but a dude from India; Walid Phares is, thank Allah, a Lebanese Christian; Kim Holmes is a dude; and Kristen Silverberg is apparently a smoking-hot 40-something.

David Davenport said...

So Romney has already been appointed president?

If all those Carthagenians are scrambling to board the USS Mittens, I suppose it means they're abandoning a sinking Democrat trireme.

This tends to confirm my perception that he's becoming the presumptive next Prez.

I saw Mittens on TV this morning saying he was anti-abortion. This was at the gym, and I didn't hear the whole video piece. Mitt may have also said something about marriage should be between a man and a woman.

This leads me to believe that Mr. Rummy may be positioning himself somewhat to the right of Bush Jr., at least on domestic issues.

So Mitt may not be entirely bad.

Wonder if Mitt will pick Michelle Bachmann or Sarah P. for V.P. -- white but a femme -- that's his diversity pitch.

Also look for "Mormons are weird" hit pieces coming in the Democrat news media.

Elli said...

Whiskey, take it from a woman, Obama is not masculine. He's wispy, intellectual, well-spoken, measured, self-contained. All the threat of blackness is absent, and that's why so many white people voted for him - a black who didn't scare them.

I don't think I ever responded to you before, you being so set in your mind that it isn't worth it. Obama's poor wife is more masculine than he is.

Dutch Boy said...

Buy "defense" industry stocks.

Anonymous said...

Based on this newz I think the clear problem-solving choice for Mid-East Marble Madness is none other than corporate titan STEVE JOBS. Oh wait

Truth said...

"Since 1980, the U.S has received about 40 noble prizes in physics. 3 (Rubbia, Phillips, Giacconi)

Rubbia and Giacconi are Italians who naturalized late in life, Phillips is a German with an Italian mother.


"Wasn't it you, Truth, that was scrambling so hard a few months ago to assure me that Neil Degrasse Tyson is a top U.S physicist, when I was lamenting there aren't any top black U.S. physicists?"

Physics is not something I pay attention to much, but from my understanding, DeGrasse's status has been achieved through his outreach ability more than "labwork."

The point being, at the top .001% of anything there is a reason the people who have those jobs have them.

JSM said...

"He is not seen by crucial swing voters (White women) as being masculine, dominant, the Alpha asshole that they love and crave. Roissy is correct, in love as in politics, women crave that guy. Which Rockstar/Celebrity Obama is, like it or not."

Obama is celebrity asshole, I'll give you that.

But masculine? He walks and sits with such a dainty air, there are rumors he's gay.

Dominant? I'd say Ma Belle Michelle wears the pants in *that* marriage (or would if she could find any roomy enough in the seat).

ALPHA?

How the hell do you figure? He acts like a pouty schoolboy the schoolmarm just plopped in the corner when he doesn't get the adulation he thinks he's entitled to.

And when he's NOT in a snit, he wears a beatific expression, like a chubby-cheeked, bediapered baby cherub.

Effeminate and infantile HARDLY describes the look of a guy who knows how to bend other men to his will.

Whiskers, you really come up with some doozies.


What Obama HAS got is media attention. (And the decision about who gets airtime is made by largely Jewish old guys.)

Baloo said...

Maybe Obama is an alpha by courtesy. Race is certainly enough to move him up a couple of Greek letters.

Anonymous said...

Speaking of another Italian art [which it appears that we are now losing, due to the Italians' determination to unbreed themselves right out of existence], how about that once-proud Italian American tradition of really classy popular tunes - what the Derb might call "high middle-brow" music?

Anything from Louis Prima's Sing Sing Sing [1936] to Vince Guaraldi's Linus and Lucy [1964], with about a bazillion Henry Mancini tunes floating around in there somewhere (such as Charade [1963]).

Sigh - civilizational extinction really really really SUCKS.

Captain Jack Aubrey said...

"Lots of jealous people in this thread. If you're a powerless loser you only have yourself to blame."

I'm mostly just jealous that Jews don't get called to the floor for being oppressive racists as a result of their overrepresentation among the elite. Whites have 63% higher per capita income than blacks? Racism Racism Racism!

But Asians have per capita incomes 20% higher than whites, or Jews are 19 times as numerous on the Forbes 400 as their numbers would predict? Why that's just the natural order of things! They earned it: hard work, grit, determination, yada yada yada...

If Jews weren't so emphatic about embracing the political party that exploits these racial disparities I would be a lot more forgiving.

Awful said...

So if Romney wins what will be the first War for Our Best Ally Israel. Iran? Maybe Syria?

Either way a lot of Americans are on their way to Arlington. At least Obama mostly fights Israel's wars with drones.

Anonymous said...

"Lots of jealous people in this thread. If you're a powerless loser you only have yourself to blame."

Jealous, my ass. Frightened is the word. Frightened because these people come from the faction that wants those 50 year war/occupations.

"They fought hard to get there."

Yeah, and they stand ready to send our sons to fight another mindless war for them. You know their sons won't. Fighting for their credentials is the only fighting they've ever done. Their IQ and connections don't give them the right to indiscriminately spill other's blood and treasure. You can be for damn sure that none of them will offer up their own for battle. Their battlefield lies in the iron triangle of govt/think tanks/corporate connections.

David said...

>Jews are ~2% of the adult [USA] population.<

That's too low an estimate. I don't know where people get that.

>80% of them are Democrats.<

That's too high. Too many neoconservatives are Jews, and the followers of neoconservatives (e.g. the Little Green Footballs brigade) are not Democrats, at least not yellow-doggers.

I suppose Mittens is jake. I like my figureheads to be sharp-witted white men who aren't hicks or homosexuals.

Anonymous said...

>"80% of them are Democrats."


That's too high.


80% of Jews voted for Obama in 2008. Whether or not they were all registered Democrats is more difficult to tell. But they vote Democrat by a lop-sided margin.

Anonymous said...

"Lots of jealous people..."

The above comment encapsulates The Sickness:

Do you object to power mad control freaks seizing your government's foreign policy? YOU'RE A JEALOUS LOSER

Anonymous said...

Whiskey, do you have any evidence---any---that Saddam was racing towards nukes in 2001? Or are you just goebbelsing again?

Even if he were, Israel could have taken him out themselves. America should not have to constantly sacrifice its own blood, treasure, and global popularity to fight Israel's battles just because Israel doesn't want to get its hands dirty. The war in Iraq was the biggest mistake America ever made. And if America is going to constantly fight Israel's battles for them, at least give America full credit for saving Israel from threats; instead Netanyahu and the high IQ Ashkenazi media are constantly fooling patriotic Americans into being thankful to Israel for being the only good country in the middle east and that Iraq and Iran are such threats to America. Well maybe if America would stop carrying Israel's water, they wouldn't be. Maybe America could actually establish a partnership with a billion Arabs in the most oil rich countries in the world instead of constantly kissing the a$$ of one very tiny and polarizing country and getting nothing but Arab enemies and Ashkenazi ingratitude in return. Ron Paul for 2012!!

Captain Jack Aubrey said...

"Jews are ~2% of the adult [USA] population": That's too low an estimate. "80% of them are Democrats": That's too high.

Bullcocky. The 2% has been a pretty consistent number over the years, and most estimates actually put it at about 1.7%; and Jews have been voting about 80% Democrat for decades. Of the 40+ Jewish members of Congress, only one, Eric Cantor, is a Republican. Even Hispanic congressmen are more Republican than that (18D-8R).

Let's apply this level of disparity to the presidential cabinet. White gentiles comprise >80% of the Republican-voting population. Suppose "Mittens" nominated a cabinet that was entirely white gentile, thus only 25% more of Mittens cabinet than our "share." You don't think the press would mind, do you?

Anonymous said...

If Jews weren't so emphatic about embracing the political party that exploits these racial disparities I would be a lot more forgiving.
maybe that's what's helped them get into their position.

Anonymous said...

"Lots of jealous people in this thread. If you're a powerless loser you only have yourself to blame."

And yet, when Whites are overrepresented, Jews automatically attribute it to "racism." Jewish groups call for affirmative action programs, programs to "eliminate disparities and structural racism," bring up the Holocaust(tm), carry on about "humanizing the Other," etc.

If overrepresented Whites routinely responded with a statement like yours, we would soon be having endless media specials on "ending hate," "White racism," and the need to send Abe Foxman, the ADL, and the SPLC more money.

Anonymous said...

My god, if it's not evident to you that Obama is not an alpha male, then you don't know a thing about puppet politics, Chicago style.

hailtoyou said...

Capt. Jack Aubrey wrote:
"The 2% has been a pretty consistent number over the years"

There are certainly well over 10 million Jews in the USA, broadly defined. [3.75-million households claimed at least one Jewish member in 2001 (x) 2.7 average household size = 10.13 million].

Definition of "broadly defined": Regardless of religious practice or belief, those of either full or partial (at least 1/4) Jewish ethnic descent, plus defacto assimilated-Jews (gentile wives and husbands of Jews). [Many partial Jews will probably not claim to be so at all, so were not picked up in the 2001 survey. If you want to discount many or most gentile spouses, these 'uncounted partial Jews' probably at least off-set that reduction.]

Note that this category would include quarter-Jew Tim Wise, whose own writings show how deeply his Jewish ancestry animates his politics. I suspect this is true among a good share of partial-Jews.

In final analysis: "Jews" as 5%+ of the white population. [Obligatory caveat: "If Jews are considered white"].

USA's White-Protestant:Jew ratio, 2011, 15:1?

Controlling for IQ at a 130 cutoff (and assuming mixing lowers the 'broadly-defined Jewish' IQ to 112), White-Protestants should outnumber Jews 3-to-1 on the list. The list appears to be half Jewish, and not all the gentiles are Protestants. Final analysis: A dispossessed majority. Wilmot Robertson saw it 40 years ago. Today, many still don't quite believe it. 40 years from today, everyone will see it.

Anonymous said...

Also look for "Mormons are weird" hit pieces coming in the Democrat news media.


Also in the Republican media. O'Reilly had the polygamist mormons on his show last evening.

Peter A said...

I am pretty sure John Lehman is German Catholic. Lehman is (like a lot of Jewish names) also a German family name.

ben tillman said...

Those names are 2/3 Jewish. Is that your point?

ben tillman said...

Do they have a list of countries that haven't been bombed by us yet that are in line to get the treatment?

Alabama, Texas, North Dakota, South Carolina, New Hampshire, etc.

ben tillman said...

So lets imagine after 9/11, we don't invade Iraq. What then?

I'd have an extra $22,000 in my pocket.

ben tillman said...

Of course, McCain lost, partly because the Republican troops had zero enthusiasm.

But mostly because McCain himself had no interest in winning.

Tusky said...

One anonymous does a quick stats calc. Let's do it with numbers based on normal curve.

If the jewish mean 105, sd 15, then Z-table says .996 are below 145, so .004 145 or greater.

If whites mean 100, sd 15, then z-table says .999 below 145, and .001 145 or greater.

The ratio is per cap four times more jews meet the 145IQ line, but the key is per cap. Call it 100E6 whites and 3E6 Jews, so there should be roughly 8.3 more whites to meet the 145 cutoff line.

My take is that a 145IQ (or equivalent) is not the controlling criteria for Mr. Romney!

Captain Jack Aubrey said...

In final analysis: "Jews" as 5%+ of the white population. [Obligatory caveat: "If Jews are considered white"].

I don't buy the notion that a person is a Jew simply by marriage, or by being one-quarter Jewish, and none of the people on the list I counted as Jews were counted by virtue of either.

Sailer, however, appears to have missed several names from the complete list, though it doesn't appear to change the balance by much (note at the link that Sailer basically missed the right columns for both special advisers and working groups. The full list contains 40 people. In addition to the first 9 you can add Leon Aron, Dan Senor, Dov Zakheim, and Clifford Sobel. That makes 13 minimum, or 32.5%, for the foreign policy team for the likely nominee of a party that gets 0.8% of its votes from this group.

Anonymous said...

Komment Kontrol, one day I would like to figure out your policy.. frustrating to post what I think are non-inflammatory (at least as much as this subject allows) , non-spam, informative posts only to never see them appear.

Anonymous said...

"So Jews are on top and you are jealous powerless loser"...

And yet when whites or wasps or other gentiles are on top Jews scream "racism".

Just like Jews want open door immigration in the USA while Jews in Israel only let in other Jews.

Such appalling hypocrisy.

Captain Jack Aubrey said...

"If the jewish mean 105, sd 15, then Z-table says .996 are below 145, so .004 145 or greater."

But mean Jewish IQ is not 105 - maybe in Israel, with all the Sephardim, etc., but in America, where they are mostly Ashkenazi, it's 112-115.

My problem isn't with the IQ. It's with the fact that Jews are overwhelmingly Democrats/Neocons. In a Romney Admin it's quite clear the Israel Lobby will be calling the shots.

Svigor said...

115 is the highest estimate of Ashkenazi IQ. It's actually an estimate of Ashkenazi-American IQ, like most of them; Ashkenazi Israelis are not included. 108 is probably closer to reality.

Svigor said...

Anonymous Captain Jack Aubrey said... 10/8/11 3:51 PM

What Cap'n Jack said, plus the fact that ethnic nepotism is a huge x-factor that nobody mentions for fear of ANTI-SEMITISM!!! charges. Steve has spiked just about everything else I've posted to this thread but I don't know why he'd spike this observation, as I recommend Whites emulate their behavior.

Mr. Anon said...

These sefl-important poo-bahs who want to involve us in endless foreign wars talk about foreign policy like it was f**king brain surgery. And they believe themselves to be titanic intellects for making it. But who enforces it? Certainly not them, nor their sprecious children:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/08/questions-about-romneys-sons-and-military-service/

See, Romney's son served his country by stumping for his dad on the campaign trail. And all those jewish advisors who are so hot for us to carry Israel's water - they don't seem too eager to join up themselves, or to encourage their kids to do so.

Dennis Dale said...

Why is everyone on about the Jews specifically when Sailer was pointing out the predominance of neocons?
It's too bad; Romney might not be a bad alternative if he had depth and independence on foreign policy.

Anonymous said...

David said...
>>Jews are ~2% of the adult [USA] >>population.

>That's too low an estimate. I don't >know where people get that.

1.7–2.2% in 2009 according to the US Census Bureau.

permanent friends, permanent interest said...

hey David: I love how a guy lecturing us on demographic estimates proceeds to use the "Little Green Footballs brigade" for his q.e.d. Were you away from the internets for about 5 years? I would not think they're "blogrolling" LGF over at Commentary recently

Mr. Anon said...

"Dennis Dale said...

Why is everyone on about the Jews specifically when Sailer was pointing out the predominance of neocons?"

Those are not exactly non-intersecting sets. Forgive us for pointing out the obvious. We'll go back to pretending that we haven't noticed.

Anonymous said...

Steve has spiked just about everything else I've posted to this thread
moi aussi.. Komment Kontrol was especially heavy handed.. don't know why.. and there, IMOP worse posts posted than what i wanted to post...

Hunsdon said...

Dennis Dale asked: Why is everyone on about the Jews specifically when Sailer was pointing out the predominance of neocons?

Hunsdon replied: While we are all aware that correlation is not causation, denying any sort of a link between the two, in this case at least, becomes, in the end, an exercise in frustration.

David Davenport said...

Also look for "Mormons are weird" hit pieces coming in the Democrat news media.


Also in the Republican media. O'Reilly had the polygamist mormons on his show last evening.


It seems that Rummy and Fox News are not in love with each other.

You'll notice that Mitts doesn't do too many interviews with Fox.

Tob Shebbe Goyim Harog said...

It's too bad; Romney might not be a bad alternative if he had depth and independence on foreign policy.

But if he had "depth and independence on foreign policy", he might have a tougher time attaining the presidency.

beowulf said...

"I am pretty sure John Lehman is German Catholic."

Lehmann was cousins with Grace Kelly, so yeah, probably Catholic.

As for neocon support of Rommey: Considering that there's an awful lot of social conservative who are opposing Romney for being a Mormon, you can hardly blame him for seeking support of neocons, who (naturally enough) don't care at all if Mormons are really Christian.

Anonymous said...

Komment Kontrol has definitely been on a tear lately - no doubt about that.

Truth said...

"Komment Kontrol has definitely been on a tear lately - no doubt about that."

Only with you, there, D.H. Lawrence.

David said...

Everyone who was paying attention during the neocon victory dance of 2001-07 knows what Little Green Footballs was, just as everyone who was paying attention in the 1970s knows what Drink-The-Kool-Aid means even though Jonestown is defunct. Quod erat demonstrandum.

Don't quote The Soloman Project at me (78% for B.O.); they polled mostly Democrats. The point is that a large, Straussian slice of neoconservatives are not other than erstwhile-liberal Jews who, like David Horowitz, joined the Republican Party. Can someone more alert than I am kindly inform us whether the National Review has any Jewish readers, and whether Commentary is still being published?

On the 2009 census and The Perennial 2%-ers, I may be like Pauline Kael, who just couldn't understand why Nixon won, as she didn't know anyone who had voted for him. But my impression is that the population of even modest-sized cities in the USA is as high as 20%, if you count the halfies.

No, I can believe neither that the GOP is berefit of significant Jewish membership, nor that only 1 out of 50 Americans has Jewish ancestry. It gives the lie to my lying eyes and, perhaps, my Kaelian warp and woof.

Wandrin said...

"They are perfectly competent and successful. They are accomplishing their aims very well."

They're not though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBgRAWHJ89U

.
"really, any government full of smart jews will do well."

Points at Weimar Germany, Soviet Union, the oncoming US collapse etc.

.
Premise 1:
Power = mass x cohesion

Premise 2:
Two ethnic groups are competing for control over a terriotory where group A has a mass of 10 and group B has a mass of 1.

Premise 3:
The group with the highest power total has control of the combined total.

Conclusion:
If group A has 10 times the mass then group B needs more than 10 times the cohesion. Group B can achieve this through either increasing their own cohesion or reducing groups A's.

However the inevitable side-effect of reducing group A's cohesion below a certain point is that it ceases to be a cohesive nation so group B gains control of a terriotory that is only a shell of what it once was.

hence, "Buy "defense" industry stocks" is wrong. Don't buy defense stocks. In the course of taking over the United States they broke it and what's left of the US economy won't support US military hegemony much longer.

.
"Lots of jealous people in this thread. If you're a powerless loser you only have yourself to blame."

Quite so. The jealous losers should do something about the problem before it's too late to salvage anything from the wreckage.

Iran-thru-Open-Eyes said...

If Ashkenazi Jews are so smart, how come they've never been able to figure out how to govern themselves peacefully, or live in peace among the people in whose lands they dwelt? Look at their history objectively: Abraham was kicked out of Paradise; Cain killed his brother Abel; Jacob cheated his brother Abel; Joseph's brothers hated him & tossed him in a well; Hebrews lived on gift-land from Egypt for 480 years, then killed Egyptian children, called a pox on Egyptian people, killed Egypt's leaders and fled the state taken with them stolen goods.
Consider the record of Yehudi in Babylon -- Cyrus goes to the expense of getting rid of Nebuchadnezzar but what Yehudi celebrate -- to this day-- is Esther causing 70 000 innocent Persians to be slain.

Jews oppressed Poles amongst whom they dwelt for 100s of years -- Jews never learned to speak Polish, considering it beneath them. Jews were protected by Polish monarchy, but NOT the demos. In 19th century, when Germany was capable of adopting industrialization, Poland -- which had been administered by Jews for centuries -- was the most backward state in the region. Ergo, Jews left Poland for Germany, to suck on that swollen teat.

The "smart" thing Ashkenazi have going for them is mobility: Jews moved to Italy and got themselves into University of Padua when it was the glory of known world; Jews learned banking from Genoese and Flrentines; learned commerce from Dutch; learned syndication & even film making from Germans. Israel's prosperity today is based upon intellectual capital of Russian immigrants (most of whom are NOT Jewish), acquired at cost of Russian taxpayers. btw, Americans paid Russians to move to Israel where they work to benefit Israel. There's a distinction to be made: is that smart on the part of Jews, or dumb on the part of Americans? I say the latter.

As for how smart Ashkenazis are, momma always said, anyone who has to TELL you how smart they are, probably ain't. Jews do terrific PR, and as the above thumbnail history shows, have no scruples about throwing their own and especially someone else's own under the bus to get what they want. I suppose it works for coyotes, but not so well for civilized people. Which

Anonymous said...

Here is a blurb from the Romney campaign.
Note the inclusion of Dov Zakheim, which was left off of your list.
Was Roger Zakheim substituted for Dov after it was pointed out that Dov was comptroller of the pentagon when 2.3 trillion dollars went unaccounted for?

http://tinyurl.com/7k2zkdw