November 25, 2011

Ron Rosenbaum

Ron Rosenbaum is a mainstream, respected, nearly ubiquitous social commentator who frequently appears to be in the throes of hydrophobia. Here's one of his earlier contributions. Here's another

From the Washington Post's Slate yesterday:
The Unbearable Whiteness of White Meat 
Dark meat is better. Why don't we love it more? 
By Ron Rosenbaum 
Posted Thursday, Nov. 24, 2011, at 7:21 AM ET 
Not being a postmodernist I wouldn't call the overwhelming American preference for white-meat turkey a form of cultural hegemony. More like a mass hallucination. Why, for instance, hasn't white meat shared the same fate, the same cultural disenfranchisement, as packaged white bread? 
Some of you may remember white bread. Not the white bread of crusty baguettes and the like, but the white bread of sliced, standardized loaves of cotton wool, the stuff people ate before everyone switched to baguettes and focaccia and brioche, which are, yes, often "white" but not "white bread" in the old-fashioned, mass-produced sense. I'm talking about Wonderbread bread.
This is what I can't understand: Why does most of America want its turkey meat white? ... 
Why have we broken the chains of the whiteness that bound us to fatally tasteless white bread while still remaining imprisoned in the white-meat turkey ghetto? 
... Do they still associate white meat with refinement? It was enough to make me wonder whether there could be a racial, if not racist, subtext here. Perhaps there is a clue in the shifting fate of the "other white meat"—pork. I'll never forget the moment when I learned the antebellum racial origin of the phrase "living high on the hog." I had driven down the I-5 "grapevine," that fog-shrouded mountainous interior route from San Francisco to L.A. with a couple of Communist Party women who were mothers of death row prisoners (long story). When dawn broke and we arrived in Watts, they guided me to a place called Ray's Redwood City, an all-night, almost all-black joint where the ladies of Saturday night dined with the ministers of Sunday morning (not at the same tables), and my fellow travelers ordered me a dish called "high on the hog," a mountain of scrambled eggs topped by a fried pork chop. 
It was then I learned the etymology of the phrase in America. It hails from the plantation days, when the white slave owners dined on choice pork chops cut from "high on the hog" while the slaves made do with the lower parts of the pig—the ham hocks, the pigs feet, the pork bellies, and the innards. White meat was high on the hog, but not higher on flavor than other (often darker) cuts. Indeed the "other white meat" now available most frequently in lean and tasteless pork chops and cutlets has little more taste than white meat turkey. 
Despite its superior taste, dark meat has dark undertones for some. Dark meat evokes the color of earth, soil. Dark meat seems to summon up ancient fears of contamination and miscegenation as opposed to the supposed superior purity of white meat. I guess it shouldn't be a surprise that white meat remains the choice of a holiday that celebrates Puritans. 
Indeed, the connotations of the pale and darker parts of the turkey constitute a meaty metaphor for the Thanksgiving feast itself. The allegedly more refined and daintier white parts, the wings and breast, have never touched the ground the way the earthier darker legs have done. And you know how dirty dirt is. 
By the way, if you want to read a brilliant poetic embodiment of the real story of our "Pilgrim fathers," a chilling antidote to white bread, white meat, and Thanksgiving treacle, I recommend you take a look at Robert Lowell's amazing, chilling poem "Children of Light" (which could have been called ("Children of White"). 
Its opening lines represent the best unsentimental epitaph for the myth of Thanksgiving: 
Our fathers wrung their bread from stocks and stones
And fenced their gardens with the Redmen's bones. 
Maybe that's why I have a prejudice against the white-meat sacrament of the holiday that covers up the white man's crimes. 
It's Lowell writing about his pilgrim ancestors who began the rolling genocidal slaughter of those nice Native Americans who made the first Thanksgiving possible. 
The real Thanksgiving story is extremely dark, far darker than any leg and thigh meat. 
Could fear of facing our dark history be behind the prejudice against dark meat? 

No comment.

118 comments:

Matt said...

Nutty article, but I agree that dark meat tastes better.

Anonymous said...

Steve, didn't you know that the Scotch-Irish like dark meat?

Polynices said...

Can I swear here?

What a fucking moron! I dunno, maybe white meat TASTES BETTER? I know a few folks who prefer the flavor of the dark meat and more folks who prefer the white meat. LOL.

ga77qQ said...

I think that it was meant to be somewhat satirical.

Seriously though, why on earth do so many people prefer the (often tasteless and dry) white meat?

Anonymous said...

Amazing that RR gets paid to write such gibberish.

White bread makes great toast & good for sandwiches, which is why it became popular. Plus people didn't know any better - way back when.

People started eating whole wheat Rye etc. when the health craze started in the 70s and people got exposed to more and better breads which used to be only available in Big Cities or ethnic enclaves.

White poultry meat is more healthy and assuming its cooked correctly (and still moist) tastes better than dark poultry meat.

Anonymous said...

Rosenbaum......
90% of the time i can just guess what sort of article it's going to be.

Laban said...

"fear of facing our dark history"

Who's "our", paleface ?

Anonymous said...

RR just proves that any hack can turn out any article - no matter how absurd - as as it deals with Race/Gender/Homosexuals/Bigotry and implicitly or explicitly attacks "Whitey" or Males.

rcocean said...

"I think that it was meant to be somewhat satirical."

Its either satirical or it isn't. There is no "somewhat" in Satire.

Puppy Saga pt 27 said...

Why do people go for milk chocolate? It must due to interracist propaganda of Hollywood.

Puppy Saga pt 28 said...

How come American laws don't allow dog meat? It must be 'cultural racism' against Chinese.

Puppy Saga pt 29 said...

Why do people prefer yellow cake and chocolate cake to white cake? It must be due to rise of Asian and black power.

Puppy Saga pt 30 said...

Yellow corn!!! The return of the Golden Horde!! Run for your lives!!

Simon in London said...

Wow, cultural Marxism overload - almost enough to turn me off preferring dark meat! Tasty, tasty dark meat *yum*...

Anonymous said...

The White Bread as better for you occurred with Wonder Bread the ORIGINAL sliced bread -- that had also been fortified with Vitamin D.

This action, circa 1930, ended the scourge of Pellegra.

This was also the time BLEACHED white flour hit the mass market -- also enriched with Vitamin D.

The whiteness established BUG FREE purity. Getting the grubs out of the flour was the original purpose behind sifting flour for baking.

Both products took off like rockets...

And the expression 'the greatest thing since sliced bread' made its way into the American lexicon.

The problem with dark meat ( turkey ) is its complication of the social rite of carving.

Indeed, Hollywood even ran shorts on the socially graceful way to carve while attired.

Since virtually any idiot can properly carve breast meat the nation demanded ever larger breasted domesticated turkeys.

It really is that simple.

By comparison there's no social ritual for carving a capon / chicken... And we see the result.

As for the rest of his rant...

He's trying to climb Maslow's hierarchy...

And so declaiming his own skin color makes this effete drone the 'hippest of all.'

Anonymous said...

I hate to say it, but sometimes the Scoth-Irish are downright insufferable.

Black Death said...

"with a couple of Communist Party women who were mothers of death row prisoners (long story)."

....

Is this parody? Anyway, if he had bothered to research the origin of the term "high on the hog" rather than just accepting as truth the Karl Marx version from his CPUSA comrades, he would have discovered that it was indeed used as he described, but not only in slave states but also in free ones, where the affluent white citizens ate better cuts of meat than the poor (whites). An alternative explanation involves the feeding practice of piglets. But it probably did not originate there - the phrase has been traced back to 17th century Ireland and England. (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/high-on-the-hog.html).

I read the linked previous article about Bernie Madoff too, and it's almost as bad. True , Madoff is disgusting, but Rosenbaum misses one key distinction - Madoff is a thief, as were the old-time Jewish gangsters, but they killed a lot of people, which, as far as I know, Madoff never did.

Is Rosenbaum a ringer? Are you sure this isn't parody?

Geoff Matthews said...

To be stuck in a room with this man must be hell.

Noah172 said...

This guy sure is a Jew meshuggener. The article to which Steve links here is especially farcockt.

I wonder what the Freudian explanation of turkey meat preferences would be.

What a mad, and maddening, race of people.

eh said...

I like dark meat better. The thigh has always been my favorite piece of chicken. Drumsticks and thighs on a turkey.

Anonymous said...

In fairness: Dark meat does have more flavor.

Anonymous said...

"Seriously though, why on earth do so many people prefer the (often tasteless and dry) white meat?"

Dry, overcooked white meat is terrible.

Moist, not overcooked white meat is great.

Cheque Woudt said...

Thanks for the comprehensive quote of Mr. Rosenbaum's silly little rant. It would be a shame for him to get a bunch more pageviews than he deserves just because you have called attention to it among your many faithful readers.

Not to say that the German's are racist, but most I've ever known prefer the dark meat of thighs and legs. They complain that the white meat dries out too easily.

Meinetwegen... jedem nach seiner Fa├žon.

Next Mr. Rosenbaum will be claiming that people somehow prefer white chocolate? Or all us squeaky little white folks are racist because we don't find absolutely delicious that brown stuff usually known as crap.

No matter, Rosenbaum's latest little output still stinks even worse.

ben tillman said...

The problem with dark meat isn't the taste; it's the lack of uniformity and predictability. With dark meat you have to watch out for tendons.

Maya said...

Er... Many Americans switched from white bread in favor of whole wheat because of nutrition, not taste. That's the same reason many Americans prefer lean cuts and white meat. In the past 20 years, every talk show host, magazine and radio announcement had told us to switch to dark breads and lean meats.

ATBOTL said...

Jews are obsessed with white people.

Anonymous said...

Rosenbaum has the ideal skill set for writing social commentary in an earlier century

ben tillman said...

I think that it was meant to be somewhat satirical.

I think your critical faculties are a bit lacking.

SF said...

Has this guy never heard of cholesterol?

Anonymous said...

While the article does appear fake, this focus on anything representing dark vs light is the basis for most anti white racism tactics. Think about what the fanatics promote, very literal minded (not unlike the current contributors to this blog).

It wasn't long ago that the UK had government workers labeling kids racist if they wouldn't eat ethnic cuisine. And I've had people actually use the color of a dog's coat as a proxy for skin color.

I can't believe how trite you people are. It would be such a nightmare to be trapped in a house full of you lot for thanksgiving.

Anonymous said...

Give me sliced white bread or give me death!

syon said...

I kept expecting this to be a piece from the ONION.Just goes to show that reality is more absurd than fiction.

One wonders what his next tirade will be: the link between the "Whiteness" of snow and the lack of Black athletes at the Winter Olympics? The "money-shot" in porn, via the whiteness of sperm, serving a White supremacist agenda? The connection between the phrase "White collar" jobs and low Black employment rates?

ironrailsironweights said...

When carving a turkey it's easy to get large thick slices of white meat. Not so with the dark meat, which comes off in much smaller chunks.

Peter

Anonymous said...

What a fucking moron! I dunno, maybe white meat TASTES BETTER?

Since we are having a deeply intellectual discussion here: White meat has no taste (none whatsoever) - how can it taste better? The only thing that has less taste than white poultry meat is hard boiled egg white (because it is even more pure protein - and pure denatured protein has no taste; that's just how our taste receptors work). Here we only eat red meat. The unfortunately large amount of white meat goes as a filler into something that does have taste (soups, salads).

Could fear of facing our dark history be behind the prejudice against dark meat?

No.

Fernandinande said...

Some of you may remember white bread.

Reports of the death of white bread are somewhat exaggerated, and I'm often amazed that people get paid for writing nonsense.

"For the first time in the history of recorded pre-packaged loaf sales, wheat bread has out-performed white in the U.S." (Aug 2010).

Puppy Saga pt 31 said...

This is an example of neo-kosherism. Secular Jews now wanna stick their noses into what we can and cannot eat. The unbearable self-righteousness of Jews.

Puppy Saga pt 31 said...

Actually, the appeal of white turky meat is obvious and is right there in the reasons for the decline of white bread. White bread is fattening. In our fatass society, people watch what they eat. Dark meat has more fat content than white meat. So, many people avoid white bread and dark turkey meat for the same reason.

Another reason white turkey meat is favored is because Thanksgiving turkey isn't eaten just for the meat but for the trimmings and other stuff. People like to load gravy, cranberry sauce, and other stuff on the turkey meat. All the flavors are more balanced and contrasted when white turkey is used. Because dark turkey meat tastes richer, the other flavors don't stand out as much.
This is one reason why people still favor white pasta to whole grain pasta. White pasta goes better with sauces. Whole grain pasta is too strong and buries the flavors of sauces.

Btw, if one favors white meat over red meat, is that anti-Indian?

Puppy Saga pt 35 said...

Rosenbaum says 'white bread' is NOTR okay but baguettes and other such stuff are okay. So, using bread as metaphor for white people, it's okay to be white as long as white identity is suppressed. Though baguettes and french bread and etc are white bread too, they are not called white bread; so, they are fashionably okay, especially for the SWPL crowd.
Similarly, it's okay to be white as long as one identifies as 'liberal', 'creative', 'gay',
'grunge', 'cosmopolitan', etc, etc, but doesn't identify as white.

Puppy Saga pt I lost count said...

Btw, what is the color of the neighborhood Rosenbaum prefers to live in? White, black, or brown?

Jews wanna be in the white community, but this very fact makes them feel like hypocrites(cuz they're yammering about diversity and inclusion all the time). So, part of the reason Jews wanna suppress whiteness is because they can enjoy whiteness by pretending it's something else.

Puppy Saga to the infinite power. said...

"I think that it was meant to be somewhat satirical."

If so, it was a turkey of a satire.

Anonymous said...

Whitophobia.

Turkey Saga said...

People prefer meat, white or dark, to liver, giblets, gizzards, and whatever other stuff that comes with the turkey. Organ parts are generally not favored by people.
What does that mean? Surely a man of Rosenbaum's intellect can tell us.

Kosher Turkey Saga said...

People are obsessed with fat content of foods. It is a case of fatophobia against fatsos, buffalo butts, and tub-o-lards.

Nanonymous said...

Wonder Bread the ORIGINAL sliced bread -- that had also been fortified with Vitamin D.

This action, circa 1930, ended the scourge of Pellegra.


It's called 'pellagra' and is cured by niacin (vitamin B3). No bread is (or can be) fortified by vitamin D because it is only fat-soluble and heat-unstable.

The Pupper who wants to kick Ron's ass said...

There is an aesthetic appeal to white meat in turkey. The skin is golden brown when the turkey comes out of the oven; and when it's sliced open, there's the revleation of white meat and oozing juices. The contrast of golden tanned skin and white meat is mmm mmm irresistible. It's like finding pearl in oyster. If roasted turkey skin were white, there wouldn't be the same appeal. It's the contrast of golden brown skin and pure white meat flowing with juices when cut that makes turkey presentation magical. It is a food equivalent to Christmas tree. So, people do want a taste of that magical sight. Taste is associated with sight, which is why sushi presentation is so important. It has to LOOK good: the contrast of black seaweed, white rice, red tuna. And the interplay of colors are essential to pizza. (How long before Rosenbaum gripes about white mozzarella cheese? Gee, why not yellow cheese? Again, as with white turkey meat, pizza is loaded with so many stuff--veggies, meats, flavors, etc--that white cheese is preferable cuz it doesn't drown out other flavors. My problem with Mexican pizza is the cheese flavor is so strong that you don't really taste rest of the stuff.)
So, there is an aesthetic aspect to food, but it's a stretch to say it has anything to do with racial issues. After all, even rednecks love them dark chocolates and fudge brownies.

Anonymous said...

Steve,

This is only the beginning. When Whites cannot even talk about "being white" in public, we are in a dangerous situation.

This continual blatant public disrespect of whites will only lead to more disrespect....and move from verbal to physical.

We are already seeing this evolution... 2011 has been the year of "black flash mob" assaults often against whites. UNREPORTED by media, largely. We are moving into this next stage as a society....

Ron sucks real bad said...

I'll bet Rosenbaum's favorite part of an animal is the gallbladder. It explains his bile.

Anonymous said...

I wonder what the Freudian explanation of turkey meat preferences would be.

There's no need to get too analytical about it.

If Rosenbaum enjoys gobbling dark meat, fine, let him (may he choke on it). But I don't see why everyone else must have dark meat shoved down their throats.

Silver

Whiskey said...

Jews ARE White people. RR is a lunatic, but look who he's writing for: the female status-mongering audience. That's who consumes most of the non-financial news media. Status mongering ahoy.

And no, Jews classically don't give a damn about the gentiles. To them, they're all the same. [The early Roman Empire had a LOT of conversions to Judaism while Christians who enforced strict celibacy languished. However Roman persecutions of converted Jews and greatly relaxed celibacy requirements reversed that.] This is all racism-mongering ala "the Help." "I'll fight racism ... by writing a gossip book! That'll show them!"

I can't stand dark meat. White meat rules.

Anonymous said...

White bread is fattening. In our fatass society, people watch what they eat. Dark meat has more fat content than white meat. So, many people avoid white bread and dark turkey meat for the same reason.

I recommend you familiarize yourself with the following two terms: "calories" and "quantity." Then you can put the two together and realize that no food is actually "fattening" (or, if any food is, then all foods are). (Fat isn't "fattening" either. Remember: "calories" and "quantity.")

Silver

Anonymous said...

Dark meat is greasy. That's why I prefer Hens to Toms. Coincidentally, I happen to prefer the company of light skin people.

Anonymous said...

"Moist, not overcooked white meat is great."

I concur. Plus,the dark can be greasy.

TGGP said...

I think white bread and dark meat are both fine. But I don't eat those yellow/orange sweet-potatoes and yams.

Mitch said...

It's a small point, but that article was written a while back and just reposted. I think he wrote it for last Thanksgiving.

Evil Sandmich said...

He also hates the game pool because you use a white ball to knock colored balls into the holes, etc.

Mr. Anon said...

"Anonymous said...

Since we are having a deeply intellectual discussion here: White meat has no taste (none whatsoever) - how can it taste better?"

Sure it does. It has a very distinctive taste. Perhaps your tastebuds have just been deadened.

stari_momak said...

Apparently the Japanese lurve the white bread.

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/stickaforkinit/2011/11/japanese_white_bread_torture_devices.php

Since Japanese people lurve the white bread, and SWPLs lurve Japan, by the associative (or is it transitive) principle of righteousness it should be okay to lurve white bread.

Anonymous said...

It's obviously meant to be satirical. He was probably drunk when he wrote it. But yeah, white meat is too dry. It's only edible with brown gravy on it. Get your filthy minds out of the gutter. I didn't mean it like that.

Matra said...

I think it is important to point out that Rosenbaum was, until recently, a member of pro-GOP Pajamas Media. So far as I could tell the only thing 'conservative' about Rosenbaum was his Zionism yet that along got him a gig at a conservative blog.

If you really want to know how much Rosenbaum hates us all you need to read is the The second holocaust-and European complicity.

Anonymous said...

Steve, didn't you know that the Scotch-Irish like dark meat?

Are you serious?

This has to be the strangest thing that I have ever heard. Care to provide your source?

Anonymous said...

You left out the last two paragraphs where he decides that dark meat is avoided because it symbolizes dark, sliminess. At least he doesn't CONCLUDE that white meat is racist.

Hail said...

ATBOTL wrote:
"Jews are obsessed with white people."

Jewish intellectuals have been doing this for generations now. Rarely are they called on it, except by "fringe" figures, which would -- considering their radicalism and the influence they have had -- would probably be a true mystery to a disinterested Martian observer.

Tom Wolfe identified this phenomenon in Mau-Mau-ing the Flak Catchers (I think it was) over 40 years ago.

Chief Seattle said...

I agree completely with the anonymous that pointed out the relative difficulty of carving dark meak. Heck, my Dad pointed out that dark meat tastes better as early as 1985, and he's not even Scotch-Irish. Americans like white turkey breast because it carves in neat slice whereas dark meat pulls in chunks.

The Russians prefer dark meat. They've been eating the surplus dark meat from American chickens for decades. Must be their lack of colonial guilt. Or something.

Americans prefer white-painted walls as well. Even though brightly colored stucco walls have less glare. I wouldn't read too much into it, unless you have a deadline.

Anonymous said...

Ron's was a lit student at Yale. He can't help but write like this.

To be fair, his Shakespeare book was pretty good. And his Hitler book was interesting. But there his research was what was winning. He was less of a crank because of that.

dearieme said...

Some parts of the Anglosphere are so hopelessly incorrect about prudishness that they still refer to "leg" and "breast" rather than "dark" and "white".

Matt said...

Surely the bigger acts of racism are why we call "brown meat" "red meat" (such appropriation!) and why Asians prefer "white rice" (such internalization of white supremacism!)?

Matt said...

Anyway, dark chicken meat is greasier and has a stronger flavor and is moister when subjected to long cooking. Both are good in their place.

Honestly Ron, can't you just appreciate diversity, rather than stoking the fires of conflict? Diversity is not a question of "better" and "worse". Such supremacistic thinking, tut tut.

BrokenSymmetry said...

Wonder whether RR would like jewfish? Oh wait, its been renamed the Goliath grouper!

Anonymous said...

More "Stormfronters":
Kissinger and Len Garment

At the time of the events, AP explains, the White House was "defending its strategy of quiet diplomacy" and sought to assure American Jews that Nixon was very concerned about the plight of Soviet Jews but that quiet diplomacy was the best approach.

A White House official, Leonard Garment asked Kissinger for help and guidance, saying he was flooded with letters and phone calls from concerned Jews. The late Alexander Haig, Nixon's national security adviser, had forwarded Meir's letter to him as well. Kissinger was Haig's deputy at the time.
The transcripts show that Kissinger said to Garment: "Is there a more self-serving group of people than the Jewish community?"


Garment, also Jewish, replied: "None in the world."
Kissinger was then quoted as saying "What the hell do they think they are accomplishing?" and "You can't even tell [the] bastards anything in confidence because they'll leak it."

Anonymous said...

attack is the best form of defence

taken to extremes it destroys everything around it

stari_momak said...

""Is there a more self-serving group of people than the Jewish community?" "

http://www.amazon.com/Yes-But-Good-Jews-Beginners/dp/1596912057

stari_momak said...

Surely it is not a coincidence that the trend of separating white and dark meat before cooking emergence during the Reagan administration -- a manifestation of a barely submerged desire to return to a segregated America.

Cooking Light And Dark Meat Separately Can Pay Dining Dividends

Much more troubling is that such reactionary views have lately received endorsement from 'Science', really racist pseudo-science which dwells on differences between the 'light' and the 'dark'.

That such ideas can emerge during times of economic difficult is troubling indeed.

DYork said...

Whiskey said...
Jews ARE White people. RR is a lunatic, but look who he's writing for: the female status-mongering audience. That's who consumes most of the non-financial news media. Status mongering ahoy.


Classic Whiskey. A Jew writes a lunatic racist screed against White America and Whiskey comes on with his female-phobia claiming White women are the root of the problem.

Classic.

And second poster Anonymous you SOB, you got in with the - "I didn't know Ron Rosenbaum was Scots-Irish" - before I could.

I actually only eat the cranberry sauce on Thanksgiving because I like the idea of symbolically drinking the blood of all the American Indians and black and Jews that my ancestors tormented and killed for over 400+ years.

It gives me an extra jolt of energy. Like drinking some Monster energy drinks and injecting some testosterone.

GGrrrrrrr.........watch out world!!!

Anonymous said...

I like both light and dark meat but leave it a left wing to nut to hyperventilate over nothing.

Prof. Woland said...

I was in Hawaii once standing in line at a Seven Eleven when a couple of locals walked in. One was wearing a tee shirt that said, “Haoles, the other white meat” right below a picture of two natives roasting a man on a spit.

Average Joe said...

Rosenbaum seems like a white Nationalist caricature of a white-hating leftist Jew. Is this guy for real or is he some kind of humorist?

Average Joe said...

From what I always heard, white meat is both lower in fat and higher in protein than dark meat which supposedly makes it healthier if less flavorful.

Hacienda said...

LOL.

The cultural victory is so complete that any blather about race, even strange and weird and retarded must be given print and space. It's not only reason that trumps white meat racism, it's also stupidiy. Both avenues are ridden to victory.

ben tillman said...

Steve, didn't you know that the Scotch-Irish like dark meat?

Are you serious?

This has to be the strangest thing that I have ever heard. Care to provide your source?



"Scotch-Irish" = Jewish.

bleach said...

Quoting an article by a Jew without comment? Anti-Semite!

Anonymous said...

Are you serious? This has to be the strangest thing that I have ever heard. Care to provide your source?

WHOOSH!

not a hacker said...

Listen Rosenbaum, I've scr**** eleven black women, so as between you and me, I'm the only non-racist here. Now, the reason we prefer white turkey meat to dark is primarily the texture. Dark meat is slimier. It's also a bit gamier in flavor, but that's secondary. People like the texture of white turkey meet. It feels good in the mouth. Health concerns may have been the reason Wonderbread lost popularity, but for me the reason was again - texture. White bread did not make for good sandwiches. It always ended up sticking to the top of your mouth. No such problem with wheat bread or pumpernickel. And for your information, no, black pussy generally is not any more fragrant than white. You're welcome.

Svigor said...

Seriously though, why on earth do so many people prefer the (often tasteless and dry) white meat?

Seriously though, why on Earth can't some people cook?

If your white meat is tasteless and dry, your cook sucks.

eh said...

mainstream, respected, nearly ubiquitous

Never heard of him btw.

Carol said...


I recommend you familiarize yourself with the following two terms: "calories" and "quantity."


maybe the same calories, but the white refined carbs are more volatile in the body, causing blood sugar to rise and the pancrease to crank out more insulin, which turns the glucose into fat cells, triglycerides IIRC.

Anonymous said...

Hey, what about redheads? I've always heard their coloring and features and personalities are indications that there is in fact a historic genetic link between caucasians and africans.

Londoner said...

Mr Rosenbaum deserves his place on the satanic pantheon alongside Ignatiev, Sontag, Kaufman, Wise and the rest.

But putting those lofty considerations to one side... what a truly terrible writer.

dicte said...

All my life I preferrd white meat. Most people did, especially kids. Dark meat (chicken and turkey) was considered kind of slimy and icky and didn't have the tooth friendly texture. Fried chicken legs were ok because the dominating taste and texture was the crisp crust.

Nowadays I'm less picky, but still prefer it if it is properly cooked and moist. Dark meat has more iron in it though.

Londoner said...

A request to Puppy Saga: can we have some more Pepe Gomez movie reviews please? Thanks in advance.

Pupper said...

Protocols of Elders of Puritans.

Btw, Rosenbaum should know that his ilk survived for so long cuz their insistence on racial purity. If anything, European racial puritanism has roots in the Good Book, especially the Old Testament.

Anonymous said...

Off topic, Steve, but an Empire Strikes Back moment is about to take place in Utah. The poor, put upon and powerless - as exemplified by former governor and Bush cabinet member Mike Leavitt, from his modest office at the top floor of the tallest building in downtown Salt Lake City, along with a University of Utah dean - have banded together to eliminate the Utah convention system that knocked off poor old millionaire/senator's son/Mormon prophet's grandson Bob Bennett.

On behalf of the common good, of course.

Anonymous said...

A few months ago a co-worker told me that her blond grandson, about 7 years old, was taunted with the words "white bread" in school. Apparently it's a racial epithet among the young.

At Quiznos I'm always asked by the mestizo staff "why bre, whole whee bre?" I used to pick one randomly. I still wouldn't be able to tell which is which by their tastes. I'm guessing that there is a difference, but it never seemed important enough for me to track it. But after I learned that it's a racial epithet, I started always replying "white bread." Anything else would seem cowardly now.

Noah172 said...

Just saw pictures of this Rosenbaum. He is quite the blondy. (Sidenote: in some of his photos he looks a little like the actor Frank Langella.) Perhaps this bile directed at the goyim is a way of showing that he is authentically Jewish to those who might otherwise mistake him for an Aryan. This would be analogous to the light-skinned Jeremiah Wright's black power fulminations.

Does anyone know if, and to whom, Rosenbaum is married? Many politically anti-gentile Jews have a powerful sexual attraction to shiksa goddesses. Rosenbaum proposed way back when to Johnny Cash's daughter Rosanne (redhead, attractive, current husband Jewish). I am curious if his taste for Nazi p**** was satisfied later.

jody said...

what. no joke about "black" friday?

David said...

It's not about meat.

ben tillman said...

Hard to believe so many commenters still don't realize that turkey fat, pork fat, etc. are really good for you.

Anonymous said...

Culture of Critique.

Anonymous said...

War on Thanksgiving. I see the same slogan repeated by the same People in various outlets. Just another WASP holiday to be reduced and eliminate by the new ruling elite.

Anonymous said...

"Dark meat is better. Why don't we love it more?"


Cuz it tastes like dead rat, dumbass.


Ron, quit trying to tell us how beautiful the naked Emperor's new clothes are. Save it for your useful idiots.

Anonymous said...

Classic example of someone who's nuanced and deconstructed himself into a corner. They can't even take a shit or answer the phone without spinning endless irony. What a terrible life that must be.

Cubber said...

While it's true that British Imperialists were racially more purist and for that reason could be more prickly and disdainful of the people they conquered and administered, it's also true that this aspect of Britishness made the Brits less resented and hated by their subjects. Generally, British men didn't touch native women whereas French Pepe Lepew imperialists and Spanish sexual-conquistador-imperialists humped everyone in sight. So, at least when it came to womenfolk, Brits were more respectful toward natives than other European imperialists were--even if some of this 'respect' was based on British feeling of racial superiority and thus need for sexual separation.
The fact is African women and Hindu women were less likely to be sexually exploited by Brits than native women under French or Spanish rule. It was better for the pride of native men.

Jim Bowery said...

This guy is a neo-Nazi comedian.

G1 said...

Isn't Rosenbaum a jewish supremacist? I'm pretty sure he is a rabid Zionist.

So it's rich to read him assert the moral highground in relation to the slow-rolling genocide of indigenous peoples. The hypocrisy is almost stupefying.

Fernandinande said...

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/high-on-the-hog.html:

This is the earliest printed form of the phrase that I have come across - from the New York Times, March 1920:

Southern laborers who are "eating too high up on the hog" (pork chops and ham) and American housewives who "eat too far back on the beef" (porterhouse and round steak) are to blame for the continued high cost of living, the American Institute of Meat Packers announced today.

Svigor said...

I think that it was meant to be somewhat satirical.

So were the only-ostensibly-slanderous jokes about Ashkenazis that I put into a comment.

But Steve didn't seem to appreciate the parallel.

Svigor said...

Rosenbaum seems like a white Nationalist caricature of a white-hating leftist Jew. Is this guy for real or is he some kind of humorist?

Gee, I dunno. Maybe I should try out a "Ashkenazi caricature of a Jew-hating right wing White" and see how many Ashkenazis find it funny, edgy, and otherwise ironically hip?

Anonymous said...

We Scotch-Irish also like to leave the brown skin our potatoes. No peeling for us.

Anonymous said...

Dark meat = alpha.
White meat = beta.

Anonymous said...

the white refined carbs are more volatile in the body, causing blood sugar to rise and the pancrease to crank out more insulin, which turns the glucose into fat cells, triglycerides IIRC.

The "healthy whole grains" aren't any better for you, though. In fact, there's some evidence they might be even worse.

JH said...

Does Rosenbaum's Zionism qualify him as a white supremacist?

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Captain Jack Aubrey said...

"Does Rosenbaum's Zionism qualify him as a white supremacist?"

In a rational world, it would.

Anonymous said...

Wonderbread equivalents are still the main element in every super market around here, and everywhere else I've been (i haven't been to the Hamptons, the ritzy neighborhoods in Manhattan, Beverly Hills, or San Francisso).

The stuff isn't that good, but its cheap, kids like it (ask your nanny about kids, herr journalist), stores real well, and makes convenient toast.

Kylie said...

Apparently the only white this idiot approves of is the white-out of all things white.

Anonymous said...

I think you all have been had. From the end:

Dark meat represents slime and viscosity. Dark meat embodies all the menace of dissolution into the nothingness that is the slimy ground of being itself!

So, if white meat represents white man and dark meat represents black man, then white man = tasteless but black man = slimy.

"Dissolution into the nothingness" indeed. Either the author hates dark people or it's a tongue-in-cheek parody of post-modern deconstruction.

Anonymous said...

And no, Jews classically don't give a damn about the gentiles. To them, they're all the same.

Stick to Game, where you're not an obnoxious little apologist.


-uh

AmericanGoy said...

White bread - freshly made, from quality ingredients - is the best thing on this planet, bar none.

The American version of it - the "wonder bread" which makes you wonder what it's chemical composition is (but not enough to REALLY check the 100 unnatural ingredients) - is not.

Anonymous said...

White turkey meat is "tasteless and dry" when you don't know how to cook it.

Funny how the greedy corporations hawking packaged sliced turkey meat stick with white cuts and not dark. Don't they understand that huge money is to be made in selling dark meat turkey sliced to perfection?

Fools! You could get rich selling deep, dark turkey meat - I dare say, deep dark BLACK turkey meat in this country. Like they do in Israel!