November 28, 2012

Downes Syndrome

New York Times editorials about how Racist Republicans must agree to More Immigrants Now are mostly written by Lawrence Downes.

But how diverse is he? In general, the New York Times Editorial Board is a lot less diverse than you might naively imagine from its rhetoric. (Pictures here.) Here's Downes' Description:

LAWRENCE DOWNES | Immigration | Veterans Issues
Lawrence Downes, who joined the editorial board in 2004, has worked for The New York Times since 1993. He served on the National desk as enterprise editor and as deputy political editor during the 2000 presidential campaign. From 1998 to 2000, Mr. Downes was a weekend editor on the Metro desk and, before that, deputy weekend editor and copy editor. Mr. Downes was a copy editor at Newsday from 1992 to 1993 and at the Chicago Sun-Times from 1989 to 1992. Mr. Downes received a B.A. degree in English from Fordham University in 1986. He also attended the University of Missouri School of Journalism from 1987 to 1989.

Now, if you told me that one of Downes' grandmothers came from a nice family in Manila or Bogota, I could readily imagine that being true. After all, he's no Jorge Ramos or even David Royston Patterson.

But, still ... 

Think of the pressure on Downes. He has a comfy gig arguing for the elite conventional wisdom in favor of the displacement of American workers by foreigners, but what about displacing him with somebody a little more visibly vibrant? 

Call it Downes Syndrome: You'd better be virulently bullying in demanding the crushing of the American worker in the name of fighting racism, or they may come for your job, too.

42 comments:

Maguro said...

Looks like he's sitting in an airport with a manual typewriter on his lap, is that supposed to prove his old timey newspaperman bona fides? If so, shouldn't he be wearing a fedora with a Press card in the hatband?

DCThrowback said...

Alternate blog post titles: "Don't Mess Around With Slim" or "Slimming Downes: How owning America's elite opinion maker turns Carlos Fat with profit"

DYork said...

You'd better be virulently bullying in demanding the crushing of the American worker in the name of fighting racism

It isn't about "workers" its about White Americans, they are the ones to be "displaced/crushed".

The pro-immigration/invasion people have no desire to crush black, hispanic or Asian "workers" already here.

Downes looks mixed in those photos. Maybe White mixed with Asian or East Indian or "Hispanic".

But there are plenty of SWPL/NYTimes/MSNBC/NPR pure breed Whiteys out there who agree with him.

DYork said...

And I'll be one of many who wonders what % of the NYTimes board are actually "Scots-Irish".

I'm guessing 8 out of 17 including the top guy who has the final say.

Anyway, got to love the "diversity".

desert lady said...

the fact that the mass media is constantly pushing more mass immigration has NOTHING to do with the fact that the mass media makes its living off advertisements purchased by corporations. And it has NOTHING to do with the fact that the more profits the corps make, the more ads they are able to buy. And it has NOTHING to do with the fact that mass immigration increases corporate profits.
Nothing to do with the above AT ALL.

Mass immigration is being pushed by them durty durty nasty nasty socialist commie liberals who just want collectivism.

And these insane ideas about a link between corporate profits buying advertisements, which just happen to be the lifeblood of the media, well, that is just a mere coincidence, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a paranoid schizophrenic conspiracy theorist.

I just wanted to clear that up....

sunbeam said...

WTF does this guy know about being a veteran? Does the NY Times randomly assign this shit?

Jeffery said...

I am getting tired of describing what is happening to Whites as "worker displacement". Sounds so sanitary.

Steve Sailer said...

"Looks like he's sitting in an airport with a manual typewriter on his lap, is that supposed to prove his old timey newspaperman bona fides? If so, shouldn't he be wearing a fedora with a Press card in the hatband?"

And with his feet up on the desk while smoking a cheap cigar.

Considering how long columnists usually run their old pictures before replacing them with something more truthful about their current ages, maybe this one _was_ taken during the actual typewriter era?

Anonymous said...

Sailer, you're a numbers dude, and your boy's probably good at coding. Couldn't the two of you put your heads together and come up with a simple site where one can punch in the name and institution of a journalist, professor, what have you, get their home address through a google search, and using the zipcode check for the "diversity" of their surroundings? I mean somehow make it open to the public - Joe Smith can read some of what this dude says, then go to the site and type in Downes, NYT, etc...After a while a database of addresses would build, so there'd be no guesswork as far as name redundancy, and the zipcode would do the rest.

Seriously, why can't these tools be called out?

Steve Sailer said...

There's no need to make public home addresses, which can lead to bad consequences.

Columnists need material, so they usually get around to mentioning roughly where they live in published pieces online. As a first guess for any prominent journalist, start with Bethesda, MD

Anonymous said...

Yezhov killed Yagoda, then Beria killed Yezhov, then Khrushchev killed Beria...

AmericanGoy said...

"the fact that the mass media is constantly pushing more mass immigration has NOTHING to do with the fact that the mass media makes its living off advertisements purchased by corporations. And it has NOTHING to do with the fact that the more profits the corps make, the more ads they are able to buy. And it has NOTHING to do with the fact that mass immigration increases corporate profits.
Nothing to do with the above AT ALL."

Dear desert wench:
This might explain the Yoo Ess of Ey, but how do you explain France, Sweden, Spain, Greece?

Anonymous said...

"There's no need to make public home addresses, which can lead to bad consequences."

This is why the LEFT is winning--the RIGHT is uncomfortable with fighting fire with fire. Our forefathers would not be happy with us, although Steve, I don't mean you as you have done much, much more than your fair share with this blog and your insights into and courage in discussing HBD.

fondatori said...

Growing up I had assumed that the NY Times editorial board was composed of people who were liberal of course but were establishment figures who had actual responsibility at some point in their lives. People like Colin Powell or Madeline Albright. I mean they might not be original or exciting thinkers but at least they were people who had some real power at some point. So I was kind of surprised when I checked the list of people on the board a few years ago and found out that it is bunch of male feminists and cat ladies. I don't understand why anyone would think these people's opinions are worth paying attention to at all (much less why they are influential).

Noah172 said...

And I'll be one of many who wonders what % of the NYTimes board are actually "Scots-Irish".

I'm guessing 8 out of 17 including the top guy who has the final say.

Anyway, got to love the "diversity".


One oriental woman (deputy to the Scots-Irish top dog).

One black man.

Six women total.

No Hispanics.

Don't have info indicating orientations, but none of the photos sets off my gaydar.

No Sephardim... er, I mean Highland Scots.

One blue-eyed Nordic with a combo Charles Murray/Victor Hansen-like upbringing on an Iowa farm (how did he make it past HR?)

AllanF said...

I like this muck-raking the muck-rakers. Some of Half-Sigma's best work was exposing the modern bourgeoisie behind the NYT's and other similar east coast rag's bylines.

Get up with the Get down said...

Yes, this is exactly what I have been griping about for a long time. Basically, he's an uncle Tim. An associated problem is CEOs and College Administrators who complain about the paleness of their group, and promise to solve it by increasing the number of minorities among his underlings or students, never paying attention to the fact that he is also white and his level of position is even farther away from racially representative and that if we are to buy the crap that white men have been getting privileges, then it is he and his cohorts, in their middle and old age who would have been receiving it all along, not the newbies. Basically a cowardly agreement with the nonsense to save his job with a despicable pretension of noblesse oblige by sacrificing the spots of other white men. How much more despicable is it when these white men have white male sons of their own who are being screwed over by this crap? That, I don't understand at all. It goes to show that these liberals simply have nothing of value inside them at all.

Harry Baldwin said...

Back in the late '70s, early '80s, I used to work freelance in the art department of the Ny Times. One day, as I was walking to the cafeteria behind two guys that looked like editors, I heard one say to the other that the Times didn't have much affirmative action.

"What about Michiko Kakutani?" asked the other.

"I didn't think of her, she's actually good," answered the first.

AllanF said...

Paging Larry Summers... Paging Larry Summers. A Mr. GetUp is calling.

Anonymous said...

sunbeam said...

WTF does this guy know about being a veteran? Does the NY Times randomly assign this shit?


Jayson Blair does not work there not that he ever did.

Anonymous said...

He looks very much like a half-filipino in that picture with the typewriter.

Anonymous said...

using the zipcode check for the "diversity" of their surroundings?

This map uses census tracks. Hover mouse over map to see: white, black, hispanic, asian other.

Mapping America: Every City, Every Block
Browse local data from the Census Bureau's American Community Survey

Anonymous said...

The phrase 'Judas goat' springs to mind.

In animal husbandry, a Judas goat is, or was, an animal specially trained to 'reassure' and lead otherwise nervous and fearful goats merrily along their way to the gates of the slaughter-house.

Downes makes a very good living by toeing the party-line and espousing PC bull-poopy, whilst being cossetted and comfrted in a lucrative, safe and secure gig. As we all know, for every position in journalism, there are at least 100 good, if not better and more talented applicants who would kill for that sinecure. The only 'secret' is getting the gig in the first place, and once you've got it, hanging on to it with dear life.
Thus Downes does what his paymasters want, does his little 'sit-up and beg' tailwagging doggy tricks and is thus tossed a meaty bone or two - and a nice warm kennel for the Downeslets.
of course journalism (a dying trade), hasn't been put on the HB1 list just yet, but 'tis only a matter of time before the professional weasels get their way and successfully con the politicoes with the usual whines of 'globalism and competition making us all richer'.
Needless to say India graduates humanities graduates in the millions, and a damn sight of the them are inevitably more talented writers than Downes will ever be.

desert lady said...

Blogger AmericanGoy quoted me thusly:
"the fact that the mass media is constantly pushing more mass immigration has NOTHING to do with the fact that the mass media makes its living off advertisements purchased by corporations. And it has NOTHING to do with the fact that the more profits the corps make, the more ads they are able to buy. And it has NOTHING to do with the fact that mass immigration increases corporate profits.
Nothing to do with the above AT ALL."

Then AmericanGoy replied as follows:
"Dear desert wench:
This might explain the Yoo Ess of Ey, but how do you explain France, Sweden, Spain, Greece?"

====================

my reply:
excellent point, AmericanGoy! In France, Sweden, Spain, Greece the media is not funded by advertisements at all, and in fact the media there has nothing to do with the capitalist process at all. The mass media in those nations is funded entirely by taxes untimely and unjustly ripped from the wallets of hard working job creators. Another cruel injustice of these socialist european nations!

Anonymous said...

"Mass immigration is being pushed by them durty durty nasty nasty socialist commie liberals who just want collectivism."

I'm waiting to see the list of liberal immigration restrictionists. What justifies the sarcasm? Your statement, delivered earnestly, is easier to defend than your mockery of it.

DYork said...

Steve, you need to create a post and an on going series about the absurd number of clearly non-White "hispanics" classified as White.

It's now some kind of on going psychosis among "authorities".

Check out JONAS RODRIGUEZ PEREZ!

Yep, White guy.

Then there's vibrant immigrant Leonardo Pimental Sanchez, no doubt another White man gone bad.

Guest007 said...

Another way to look at diversity is to look at the diveristy of the schools that the children of the top journalist attended.

My guess is that every child of a person on the New York Times Editorial Board attended a private school that was at least 80% white.

Diversity may be good for others but journalist always seem to find a way to avoid it for themselves and for their family.

desert lady said...

Anonymous said...

I wrote:
"Mass immigration is being pushed by them durty durty nasty nasty socialist commie liberals who just want collectivism."


And anonymous replied:
"I'm waiting to see the list of liberal immigration restrictionists. What justifies the sarcasm? Your statement, delivered earnestly, is easier to defend than your mockery of it. "


Keep waiting, then. And I will keep waiting for the list of conservative proponents of taxing the rich and providing single payer universal healthcare, both policies being strongly supported by a majority of americans and majorities of american voters, just as immigration restriction is supported by the majority.

Still waiting....


Saaayy.....I just thought of something! Do you suppose america is not really a democracy!?

Alonzo Comacho Winthrop said...

"Then there's vibrant immigrant Leonardo Pimental Sanchez, no doubt another White man gone bad"

You forgot the most blatant one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin

Anonymous said...

Needless to say India graduates humanities graduates in the millions, and a damn sight of the them are inevitably more talented writers than Downes will ever be.

Another Hindu thumping his puny chest. Lol.

Hmm, I don't see any Indians in that editorial board...

Thaddeus James said...

We should screen the backgrounds of these social justice nuts as much as they push to screen the backgrounds of Romneys and Ron Pauls. You're gonna find some 'dress like a rapper' fraternity parties or a distant relative in the KKK and the like in their woodwork.

Jeff W. said...

The question here is, "How do you survive as a white male in a political coalition whose goal is to depose and dispossess white males?"

The answer is, “Don’t ever be the first to stop applauding.”

http://mannerofspeaking.org/2010/05/12/some-chilling-public-speaking-history/

Let some other poor white sucker be the first to stop applauding so that he will lose his spot on the gravy train.

original anonymous said...

@This map uses census tracks. Hover mouse over map to see: white, black, hispanic, asian other.

This is what I'm talking about.

@Steve

Though addresses are fairly easy to find online, the creator of such a site wouldn't have to post them. What the curious would see is, after a name punched in (and assuming that home information could be found), a map or a number showing the percentage of diversimity the agitprop specialist chooses to live around.

Some unemployed 20-something could make it a hobby.

Jefferson said...

[QUOTE]Steve, you need to create a post and an on going series about the absurd number of clearly non-White "hispanics" classified as White.

It's now some kind of on going psychosis among "authorities".

Check out JONAS RODRIGUEZ PEREZ!

Yep, White guy.

Then there's vibrant immigrant Leonardo Pimental Sanchez, no doubt another White man gone bad.[QUOTE]



Even though all Hispanic criminals are classified as White by America's corrupt law enforcement, the truth is the vast majority of these Hispanic criminals would not even pass for White in Sicily, let alone pass for White in Sweden.

Otis McWrong said...

Desert Lady said: "And I will keep waiting for the list of conservative proponents of taxing the rich and providing single payer universal healthcare, both policies being strongly supported by a majority of americans..."

1) "the rich" are taxed. Quite heavily.

2) Show me where in the Constitution the Federal Government is authorized to provide single player universal healthcare and I will re-consider my opposition to it.

Anonymous said...

" And I will keep waiting for the list of conservative proponents of taxing the rich and providing single payer universal healthcare, both policies being strongly supported by a majority of americans and majorities of american voters, just as immigration restriction is supported by the majority."

I hope you will keep waiting forever.

Anonymous said...

"Saaayy.....I just thought of something! Do you suppose america is not really a democracy!?"

Never was. Constitutional republic. Much of what the masses want is unconstitutional.

I have to trust Ben Franklin.
“A Republic, if you can keep it.”

I don't blame anyone for not knowing this. The liberal media never refers to the US as a republic - it is the root of the Republican Party name and nothing associated with republicans can be good, even if one of those things is our form of government.

Anonymous said...

When they write "X attended the Y School of Journalism from A to B" are they acknowledging that no degree was awarded? So did Downes attend the U of Missouri School of Journalism from 1987 to 1989 and couldn't even come away with a lousy Masters in Journalism? I would leave that off my resume.

Anonymous said...

" Another cruel injustice of these socialist european nations!"

Europe isn't socialist. They have business, profits, interest, markets.

They have freer markets in sports than we do.

Anybody in England could start a soccer team at the lowest rung and work their way up to the BPL. No owners could stop me like they would in MLB or the NFL.

Even if a govt builds a school or a road, they still pay business to do it in Europe and America.

There is more or less capitalist. Some things they have more govt involvement in than we do.


Whiskey said...

I will note some White guy on Gawker put together tweets bashing Obama's re-election by kids, and linking them to their Facebook pages, real names, schools, etc. He even contacted their schools.

So, the Left is punishing bad thoughts and speech like crazy. Weakness begets attack, strength begets ... deference.

You want to control the public discourse?

Make people afraid. That's all. And given what the Left has done, and the fight over money (to fund the political patronage machine and Obama phones and much else) that development is coming. Fear will be met with counter-fear.

That's inevitable. Already Geithner is doing away with nickles and pennies, by fiat, to save ... $49 million dollars (or the cost of Obama's Hawaii vacation). And taxing 401Ks, eliminating the mortgage tax deduction. It won't hurt Warren Buffet, but it can be used to tax Joe Average out of his house -- and give it to a "deserving" Black person ala Michelle Obama "White people will have to give up jobs and possessions to give Black people more."

Anonymous said...

Ok, only slightly related, but I saw this article and it was hilarious:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/19/sofia-the-first-disney-latina_n_1989568.html
It's about the first latina disney princess and whether she looks latina enough. In the accompanying video, the HuffPost latino voices correspondent discusses the question, and it looks like the disney princess could have been her as a child. The whole video is just filled with laugh out loud ironies like that that go unobserved.

Anonymous said...

Liberals are calling employers of people who they disagree with and saying they're evil racists and Steve wrings his hands about publishing addresses of the people pushing these policies.

I'm sure there's an observation to be gleaned from this.