March 17, 2013

Nutter: 1st Amendment doesn't protect "Being White in Philly"

Mayor Nutter
From Philly.com
Nutter rips Philly mag race story, calls for "rebuke" 
At Mayor Nutter's request, the city Human Relations Commission will conduct an "inquiry" into race relations in the city, following Philadelphia magazine's widely criticized cover story, "Being White in Philly." 
In a letter, Nutter tore into the magazine and the story, which quoted anonymous white Philadelphians about their view on race and has been attacked for promoting negative stereotypes and not including the views of minorities. 
"This month Philadelphia Magazine has sunk to a new low even for a publication that has long pretended that its suburban readers were the only citizens civically engaged and socially active in the Philadelphia area," Nutter wrote. He called the piece "pathetic" and said it didn't rise "to the level of journalism." 
He also called for a "rebuke" of the magazine and writer, Bob Huber, saying that while he recognizes the 1st Amendement protects "the media from censorship by the government," free speech is "not an unfettered right." 
"I ask the Commission to evaluate whether the 'speech' employed in this essay is not the reckless equivalent of 'shouting, "fire!" in a crowded theater,' its prejudiced, fact-challenged generalizations an incitement to extreme reaction," Nutter wrote. 

On Reddit, I found a text version of Nutter's letter to the Human Rights Commission, which doesn't seem to be widely available elsewhere:
Dear Ms. Landau: 
This month Philadelphia Magazine has sunk to a new low even for a publication that has long pretended that its suburban readers were the only citizens civically engaged and socially active in the Philadelphia area. Its March cover piece, "Being White in Philly," aggregates the disparaging beliefs, the negative stereotypes, the ignorant condemnations typically, and historically ascribed to African-American citizens into one pathetic, uninformed essay quoting Philadelphia residents, many of whose names either the author or the speakers themselves were too cowardly to provide. 
That the magazine thought a collection of these despicable, over-generalized, mostly anonymous assumptions rose to the level of journalism is unfortunate enough. Worse, some of the residents of the nation's fifth-largest city who are quoted in the piece seem to have ignored every positive anecdote they might otherwise have shared about a positive experience with African-Americans in favor of negative stories, many of them not even clearly attributable to African-Americans at all, to allow the author to feed his own misguided perception of African-Americans -- notwithstanding his own acknowledged daily experience on his own block as an ethnic group that, in its entirety, is lazy, shiftless, irresponsible, and largely criminal. Moreover, compounding the sin of having allowed this article to be published in the magazine - and as a cover story, no less the magazine cynically and hypocritically distributed its March issue with two different covers : reportedly one, for its subscribers, with the provocative article as the cover story; the other, with an attractive woman of color on its cover, for Philadelphia hotel guests and visitors. 
Anyone who reads a newspaper or walks through some of the city's poorer neighborhoods knows that the "vast and seemingly permanent . . . underclass" is not only black; the poverty rate in the City of Philadelphia is 28.4% and comprises not only African-Americans but Caucasians, Latinos, and members of other ethnic groups as well - ethnic groups that are suspiciously absent from an essay that purports to decry the inability for white Philadelphians to have an "honest" conversation about "race." 
More egregiously, the author of this essay, who notes that "[w]hat gets examined publicly about race is generally one-dimensional, looked at almost exclusively from the perspective of people of color," commits the same sin in reverse, by examining race exclusively from the perspective of, apparently, fifteen white people who have used isolated negative experiences to draw pervasive generalizations that the author then ascribes to the belief system of Philadelphia's entire white population. 
Philadelphia Magazine editor Tom McGrath defends his decision to publish the story by declaring, first, that it "is a story" merely because it features white Philadelphians, as opposed to Philadelphians of color, talking about race, as if merely saying that an article quoting the random thoughts of a random collection of people in selected areas of the city is worthy of publication makes it so. McGrath's second contention is that refusing to publish a piece about race would have rendered the problems of the city's "underclass" theirs, and theirs alone, to fight, as if the city's African-American population and its underclass are one and the same. Indeed, perhaps McGrath's description of Bob Huber's essay as a "story" is accurate. The Oxford Desk Dictionary and Thesaurus defines "story" as "1. an account of imaginary . . . events." Oxford Desk Dictionary and Thesaurus, American Edition (Oxford University Press, 1997). However, trying to deconstruct the article's many logical fallacies not only is an exercise in futility but offers the piece unearned credibility. Obviously, unless the resident whose chair was stolen or pumpkin smashed actually witnessed these acts of vandalism being committed by an African-American person, an assumption by the victim or the author about the ethnicity of the perpetrator is patently foolish. 
Obviously, the many positive, crime-free experiences of the thousands of Temple University students of all ethnic groups, bursting outward on the campus' ever-expanding footprint that has for decades included fraternity houses and University-owned rental housing, belie the cynical presumptions of a police officer whose job, after all, is to focus attention on the criminals rather than the law-abiding citizens. Surely Dennis, the math teacher in Kensington, might have used the criticism he received for calling his young male student, "boy," as a learning experience about the history of the relationship between Caucasians in the United States and African-American males, and identified a different way to discipline or speak sternly to the young man in the future, rather than interpreting it as evidence that "no one at the school could do anything, no matter how badly [the young man] misbehaved." Is it "possible" that Anna from Moscow just doesn't know that much about African Americans in America or our country's complicated racial history than does Dennis' young student? Rather than raging against the abject ignorance reflected in this uninformed, ill-advised, ill-considered, uninspired, and thoroughly unimaginative lament, I believe we should take the opportunity this essay offers to conduct a more comprehensive, fact-intensive evaluation of the racial issues and attitudes that provide the prism through which not only Philadelphians, but Americans across the country, view the many challenges that confront us as a community and as a nation. 
I therefore request that the Philadelphia Commission on Human Relations, which is charged by the Philadelphia Home Rule Charter with a mandate, among other duties, to "institute and conduct educational programs to. . . promot[e] . . understanding among persons and groups of different races, colors, religions and national origins," conduct an inquiry into the state of racial issues, biases, and attitudes within and among the many communities and neighborhoods in the City of Philadelphia. Also, because the performance of its duties the Commission may cooperate with interested citizens and with public and private agencies," I ask that the Commission take testimony from individual citizens and from organizations including but not limited to community groups, non-profit organizations, community development corporations, law enforcement agencies, and religious organizations — perhaps citizens and organizations representing the ethnic, economic, and social diversity easily found in our great city -- for the purpose of submitting to me and our city a report on the state of racial issues in Philadelphia, identifying the racial attitudes, both positive and negative, that pervade our civic interaction and our discourse; the obstacles and opportunities that those attitudes present; and recommendations for the improvement or enhancement of racial interaction and the encouragement and embrace of the diverse culture that Philadelphia enjoys. Finally, I ask that the Commission consider specifically whether Philadelphia Magazine and the writer, Bob Huber are appropriate for rebuke by the Commission in light of the potentially inflammatory effect and the reckless endangerment to Philadelphia's racial relations possibly caused by the essay's unsubstanfated assertions. 
While I fully recognize that constitutional protections afforded the press are intended to protect the media from censorship by the government, the First Amendment, like other constitutional rights, is not an unfettered right, and notwithstanding the First Amendment, a publisher has a duty to the public to exercise its role in a responsible way. I ask the Commission to evaluate whether the "speech" employed in this essay is not the reckless equivalent of "shouting 'fire!' in a crowded theater," its prejudiced, fact-challenged generalizations an incitement to extreme reaction. Only by debunking myth with fact, and by holding accountable those who seek to confuse the two, can we insure that the prejudices reflected in the essay are accorded the weight they deserve: none at all.
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cc: Council President Darrell Clarke and All Members of Philadelphia City Council Representative Cheryl Parker, Chair of Philadelphia House Delegation and All Members Senator Shirley Kitchen, Chair of Philadelphia Senate Delegation and All Members Honorable Robert Brady, Congressman Honorable Chaka Fattah, Congressman Honorable Allyson Schwartz, Congresswoman Rob Wonderling, President - Greater Philadelphia Chamber of Commerce Steven Bradley, Chairman - African American Chamber of Commerce Varsovia Fernandez, President & CEO - Hispanic Chamber of Commerce Julie Wong, President - Asian Chamber of Commerce Rev. Terrence Griffin, President - Black Clergy of Philadelphia & Vicinity Bishop Gregory Ingram, First Episcopal District of AME Church Rabbi David Straus, Jewish Community Relations Council Elisa Goldberg, President, Philadelphia Board of Rabbis All Members of Philadelphia Council of Religious Leaders Archbishop Charles Chaput - Archdiocese of Philadelphia Chris Satullo, Vice President News — WHYY Craig Ey, Editor - Philadelphia Business Journal Tom McGrath, Editor - Philadelphia Magazine William Marimow, Editor — Philadelphia Inquirer Michael Days, Editor — Philadelphia Daily News Harold Jackson, Editor — Editorial Page - Philadelphia Inquirer Sandy Shea, Editor — Editorial Page - Philadelphia Daily News Bob Bogle, President & CEO - Philadelphia Tribune Theresa Everline, Editor - Philadelphia City Paper Stephen Segal, Editor - Philadelphia Weekly Pedro Ramos, Chair SRC and All Members Dr. William Hite, Superintendent — School District of Philadelphia Neil Theobald, President - Temple University Dr. Amy Gutmann, President - University of Pennsylvania John Fry, President - Drexel University Dr. C. Kevin Gillespie, President - St. Joseph's University Brother Michel McGinnis, President - LaSalle University Dr. Stephen Spinelli, President - Philadelphia University Dr. Stephen Curtis, President - Community College of Philadelphia Jill Michal, President & CEO - United Way of Pennsylvania Helen Davis Picher, Interim President - William Penn Foundation Rebecca Rimel, President & CEO - Pew Charitable Trusts Bruce Melgary, Executive Director - Lenfest Foundation R. Andrew Swinney, President - Philadelphia Foundation Jerry Mondesire, President - NAACP Barry Morrison, Regional Director - Anti-Defamation League Sherrie Savette, President - Jewish Federation of Greater Philadelphia Patricia Coulter, President - Urban League of Philadelphia Sharmaine Matlock-Turner, President & CEO - Urban Affairs Coalition Joanna Otero-Cruz, Executive Director - Concilio Nilda Ruiz, CEO — Asociacion Puertoniquenos en Marcha Cynthia Figueroa, President — Congreso de Latinos Unidos Thomas Morr, President & CEO — Select Philadelphia/CEO Council for Growth John Chin, Executive Director - Philadelphia Chinatown Development Corporation Rick Sauer, Executive Director - Philadelphia Association of CDC Convenors, The Forum of Pennsylvania John McGowan, Business Operations Manager - ACLU

I was kind of under the impression that freedom of speech was a "human right," but I guess that's so 20th Century.

72 comments:

Anonymous said...

Wait a minute... wasn't Nutter the one who said it wasn't just a 'youth' or 'teen' problem but indeed a BLACK PROBLEM?

Should he rebuke hisself?

So, a black guy can say it but whites cannot.

Shouting Thomas said...

I wonder what sort of "extreme reaction" Nutter has in mind.

Veracitor said...

Nutter is learning from the muslims: shut down criticism by threatening straightforward violence, not legal action. Why get tangled in formalities when you can simply frighten people into silence or physically-injure them if they persist in saying stuff your gang doesn't like?

The muslims frightened the American mainstream media out of printing the Mohammed cartoons as well as everything else the muslims consider uncouth; now Nutter and his friends will frighten the same people out of printing anything American race hustlers don't approve of.

Anonymous said...

http://www.nerve.com/love-sex/10-incredibly-weird-things-the-world-likes-in-their-porn

Gays sure watch a lot of porn. They are maybe 2 or 3% of the population, but show up often in top 10.

Anonymous said...

West-side!!

Anonymous said...

Don't be hatin', Steve. It's all about dat scrilla.

Anonymous said...

"If you mention extortion again, I'll have your legs broken" - Animal House.

eah said...

There's no accounting for taste.

ben tillman said...

"I ask the Commission to evaluate whether the 'speech' employed in this essay is not the reckless equivalent of 'shouting, "fire!" in a crowded theater'....

Which is also perfectly legal, of course.

Dutch Boy said...

Ya gotta admit though that the name "Nutter" fits this guy to a Tee.

Anonymous said...

Well, you must have seen that coming. The Philly writer had people talking frankly about race relations from their personal experience. I'll give him props for having the guts to write it.

(If the mayor really wants to learn something / freak out, he should read the comments the online article had. He'll love them.)

Whiskey said...

Well of course. The whole point of the Civil Rights movement was to make Blacks have ENHANCED legal rights over ordinary Whites. Thus making them "unstoppable" cultural and political forces to ethnically cleanse Whites (the non-rich kind) out of urban areas and assure SWPL types running governments, Fortune 500 Companies, and the Media aristocratic rule via a modern day Landsknechten.

The fundamental problem people make is assuming this sort of thing is anything new. It is not. It is as old as European aristocracy.

Legally, the Constitution is meaningless and defacto Blacks, Muslims, etc. have indeed embraced force along with legal enhanced rights (this means Whites lacking money/power have reduced ones) that is not just encouraged by codified by our legal system.

ANY negative views or criticism of Black BY WHITES is defacto a crime in today's America. Nutter will get more not less acclaim, and it is likely that the Supremes 5-4 would uphold this (given Robert's turning by Obama).

Harry Baldwin said...

He also called for a "rebuke" of the magazine and writer, Bob Huber, saying that while he recognizes the 1st Amendement protects "the media from censorship by the government," free speech is "not an unfettered right."

This is what happens when you make the mistake of taking Eric Holder at his word:

"Though this nation has proudly thought of itself as an ethnic melting pot, in things racial we have always been and continue to be, in too many ways, essentially a nation of cowards," Holder said in a speech marking Black History Month to hundreds of Justice Department employees. "It is an issue we have never been at ease with and, given our nation's history, this is in some ways understandable. And yet if we are to make progress in this area, we must feel comfortable enough with one another -- and tolerant enough of each other -- to have frank conversations about the racial matters that continue to divide us."

Marc B said...

He's saying blacks can yammer endlessly about being oppressed by whitey, but Whites are not allowed to speak about their unease about living in an urban hellhole largely created by non-whites who outnumber them. That's just White people problems.

His response was a typical application of Cultural Marxist debate stifling tactics. Post-modern leftists are all about identity politics, and in that realm Whites have no "moral authority" on racial issues, they are relegated to the being the pigs on Nutter's Animal Farm.

I hope Nutter goes after the columnist and magazine. He will serve to fully expose himself as the authoritarian the creep he and his ilk really are. Let's have the American public see and hear where the left stands on the First Amendment.

Anonymous said...

Off topic, but not geographical area:

What ever happened to the autopsy results for that Bailey O'Neill kid who got beat up by a Philly youth, then died? The DA was waiting for autopsy results before deciding to pursue charges. That was over two weeks ago, and I can't find a thing about it since . . .

Maguro said...

He also called for a "rebuke" of the magazine and writer, Bob Huber, saying that while he recognizes the 1st Amendement protects "the media from censorship by the government," free speech is "not an unfettered right."

Bob Huber (what kinda cracker name is that?) needs to be lynched from the nearest lampost. For civil rights.

"I ask the Commission to evaluate whether the 'speech' employed in this essay is not the reckless equivalent of 'shouting, "fire!" in a crowded theater,' its prejudiced, fact-challenged generalizations an incitement to extreme reaction," Nutter wrote. 

What really bothers him is that there is in fact a fire in the theater.

Anonymous said...

"His response was a typical application of Cultural Marxist debate stifling tactics. Post-modern leftists are all about identity politics, and in that realm Whites have no "moral authority" on racial issues, they are relegated to the being the pigs on Nutter's Animal Farm."

No the NAMs and other PC-privileged groups are the pigs. Some animals are more equal than others, etc.

Anonymous said...

Nutter by name ...

Anonymous said...

Sailer, what did you think Hate Crimes legislation was about? Oh, right. That was Obama's first term. Whee according to you he was a "moderate".

Hate Crimes=Thought Crimes. In other words, goodbye First Amendment.

Chicago said...

Screaming and throwing a tantrum is standard practice in trying to stifle discussion and prevent the thought process that might occur as a result. We'll see if he can force others to roll over for him on command since by now it's not just "fifteen white people" reporting isolated anecdotes, it's millions.

Big Bill said...

"potentially inflammatory effect and the reckless endangerment"

So who is going to be "inflamed" and "endanger" others, Mayor Nutter? Not white folks, certainly. Not black folks. They know they got Philly ehite folks whipped. Maybe the city council? The Philly PD? The Mayor's office?

The sad thing is that when Professional Negroes go off like this they really seem unhinged. Nutter conveys a Mr. Smooth affect, but when he pulls tantrums like this he comes across like Coleman Young or Kwame Kilpatrick on a race rant.

Man up, Nutter. Laugh. Make a joke. Act like Willie Brown in SF. You hold all the cards. Black folks run the city.

Don't b!tch slap the messenger. It judt makes you look like a cheap, weak, emotional tw@t.

Anonymous said...

Sailer didn't actually think he was a moderate. He just pretended he thought that to bolster his Obama is the black Eisenhower see how he loves golf and stuff. Come on guys don't you see he's like totally WASP and stuff.

Of course, the real Obama is the guy that claims to like multicult crap like Urdu poetry. Anyone who claims to like Urdu poetry unsolicited is a liar and an enemy of the West

Hunsdon said...

Nutters gotta nut.

Auntie Analogue said...


Whenever someone says someehing such as "freedom of speech is not an unfettered right," I respond in pun with the chat room acronym, "OIC."

Those familiar with Moslems' campaign to outlaw free speech will get the pun.

Anonymous said...

So much for wanting an honest and open discussion of racial problems.

ATBOTL said...

Public discourse has become much more anti-white in the last few years. Back in the 80's and 90's, PC discussions of race would often at least acknowledge white concerns.

"Only by debunking myth with fact, and by holding accountable those who seek to confuse the two, can we insure that the prejudices reflected in the essay are accorded the weight they deserve: none at all."

How long can things go on like this? Whites are reacting very, very slowly, if at all, to the increasing attacks on them. What we are seeing now is whites under attack from so many sides that they are paralyzed. Even the white leaders of "conservatism" are getting more PC every year and have given up a lot of ground since 2000.

We are at the point when Soviet like repression is coming into view. The left wants it and the right has little will to resist.

Carrotboy said...

I don't know if Freedom of Speech in the US was even a 20th Century right- it started dying off around the 60s.

Anonymous said...

My campus is near a poor black neighborhood. About once every two weeks, one of the denizens of said neighborhood comes on campus, mugs a drunken frat boy, takes someone's Iphone, or tries to abduct a sorority girl.

Whenever this occurs, the Campus Safety Department sends out a mass email describing the incident and, naturally, describing the suspect. Always black. Always.

So, black activists on campus have gotten sick of it. No, not black crime. The reporting of black crime. There's an effort afoot to stop the Campus Safety Department from publishing these alerts because they're racist and "encourage stereotypes." That's right. Crime alerts with black suspects are racist.

I desperately want to post a link to some of their Facebook and Twitter hissy fits, but I just can't. Too much risk on my end.

Several hours ago, another alert was mass emailed. Sorority girl out walking late. Car approaches. Attempted abduction. Black suspect.

But according to the black student activists on my Facebook feed (don't ask), it's all a conspiracy. White girl's making it all up. Time to stop the White Power Structure.

As with Nutter, so with these folks. The denial of reality is so utterly, utterly, utterly mindboggling.


Carousel said...

I really need to move to another country. Problem is, what first world country isn't drowning in this crap?

Anonymous said...

"His response was a typical application of Cultural Marxist debate stifling tactics. Post-modern leftists are all about identity politics, and in that realm Whites have no "moral authority" on racial issues, they are relegated to the being the pigs on Nutter's Animal Farm."

I agree that the tactic always works, except when the choir becomes larger than the congregation. The demographics have reversed since the good old days of "Trading Places." The gentrifiers will obediently feign agreement with Nutter, but gentrification is a fragile thing, it requires unrelenting optimism to continue. Keeping-it-real with his sure-thing constituency, while dismissing the anxiety of his tax-paying gentrifiers is a mistake, the kind of mistake that eventually leads to another Detroit.
When I was on a long weekend vacation to Philly, I was struck how even the historical areas were kind of tired looking. Be carefull Nutter, Philly is not SF, it is not NYC, it is not Boston.

Average Joe said...

So, a black guy can say it but whites cannot.

Welcome to 21st century USA.

Alice said...

But the forcing to ignore reality works here in mpls. You cannot read a report of a crime in the star tribune and determine the skin color of the suspect. Unless he is white. Then they mention it.

Your school's CPs need to stop broadcasting that info. Cops already know anyway, see. Soon they too will fall in line.

Steve Sailer said...

"Be carefull Nutter, Philly is not SF, it is not NYC, it is not Boston."

Right, Philly could go either way in the winner/loser city contest. It has some utterly spectacular assets, but it's been out of fashion for generations. And it's too close for its own good to guaranteed winners DC and NYC, whereas, say, Chicago has a bigger catchment basin for talented hinterlanders. It's kind of like how Providence and Hartford might better off if they weren't right in between Boston and NYC.

Glossy said...

"Public discourse has become much more anti-white in the last few years."

And this is in spite of the fact that the MSM's control over discourse is weakening. People get more and more of their news from the Internet. Yet since the Internet became important the left has won at least two big victories: gay marriage and a black president.

A foreign example: I've been reading a bit about the recent Italian election. One of the candidates (Beppe Grillo) led an Internet-based campaign. He's refused to appear on Italian TV or to give any interviews to Italian newspapers. He hates the local MSM and it seems that his following was mostly built on the Internet.

I got curious, so I looked up his positions. It's the most boring, irrelevant stuff imaginable. Term limits, "sustainable transport", free Internet for everybody, etc. And I just learned that he's for gay marriage.

There's a belief out there that the Internet can radically change politics by democratizing discourse. This hasn't happened. Current politics in the West is of the more-of-the-same variety, a gradual movement further to the left. The Internet has been big since 1995, yet it still hasn't caused a change of direction.

Steve Sailer said...

"There's a belief out there that the Internet can radically change politics by democratizing discourse. This hasn't happened."

Perhaps the Internet and search engines have made for greater self-policing against crimethink since everything now goes on your permanent record.

Anonymous said...

Bob Huber (what kinda cracker name is that?)

My best guess is that it's a Jewish one and was shortened from Huberfeld.

Rev. Right said...

Glossy: "The Internet has been big since 1995, yet it still hasn't caused a change of direction."

Well, the left controls the internet too. The most pervasive influence is exerted by Google, who spares no effort in promoting leftist causes. Most news content is provided by the same leftist news companies (Reuters, AP, NYT) that supply the old media. And most people get their internet news from sites like Yahoo, who slip in sympathetically liberal stories between celebrity, fashion and diet articles.

There was a moment after the 2004 election when it looked like the "New Media" had triumphed over the old school propagandists (personified by Dan Rather and his fake documents) that had previously dictated public opinion at will. But that was an illusion, as the Death Star regrouped and got busy reclaiming cyberspace.

I think engaged people have always sought out legitimate sources of information that question the official narrative. Things are definitely more wide open and accessible with the Internet in play, but for those that take their news as it comes, nothing has changed.

ben tillman said...

Yet since the Internet became important the left has won at least two big victories: gay marriage and a black president.

And Iraq and the "Stimulus" and TARP and Obamacare and on and on and on.

Cail Corishev said...

There's a belief out there that the Internet can radically change politics by democratizing discourse. This hasn't happened.

True. In the early years of the net, it seemed like that might happen, but that was because most people online were computer geeks -- a group oriented toward personal freedom and responsibility and distrust of centralized authority. But once the general public got online and the MSM figured out how to use it, that opportunity went away.

Yes, outsiders can use the net to get their ideas out, much more easily and cheaply than in the days of soap boxes and paper newsletters. But they're still vastly outpowered by the MSM, and mostly preaching to the choir. If you hung out on a site like Twitter during the last election -- not following your friends who agree with you, but just watching the home page -- you might have guessed Obama would win with 95% of the vote. That's how much the left dominates the major online sites -- even more than it does the traditional media, if that's possible.

There's no salvation coming online. It helps like-minded dissidents to find each other and maybe organize. But it's not going to make the average person any more aware of things the powers-that-be don't want him to know -- if anything, just the opposite, as it provides him with plenty of distractions.

Eric Disera said...

"Perhaps the Internet and search engines have made for greater self-policing against crimethink since everything now goes on your permanent record."

I think that is what happened to National Review. In the 70's or 80's, the magazine was publishing some articles that would be very controversial today.

Anonymous said...

A lot of people on here seem to be really broken hearted that the internet isn't going to solve all of our problems or something while the Left constantly redefines concepts as old as the dawn of civilization. You're kidding yourself if you think this is all not going to end poorly.

As Bismark said: "Not through speeches and majority decisions will the great questions of the day be decided - that was the great mistake of 1848 and 1849 - but by iron and blood."

Anonymous said...

Silicon Valley-ites are as bad as the Hollywood types when it comes to promoting leftist crapthink. Hippy dippies.

Anonymous said...

Yahoo news headlines and stories during the election season were every bit as biased as anything produced by PRAVDA.

Anonymous said...

Ann Coulter's CPAC speech at around 15 minutes: black males voted 20 percent for Romney.

Is this true? That seems like the beginning of a sea change. Not saying the HBDers want them, but shouldn't the citizenist.

Anonymous said...

Gay marriage was coming, Internet or not. Nobody is too excited about it, but they give it lip service to show support for progress. It just seems so trivial compared to illegitimacy. It is a logical loose-end that needed tying up. Let's see how many gays get married.

There is no knowing if Obama would have been elected without the Internet.

I enjoy blogs, like The View from Hell, that cover really far out stuff. I'd never be exposed to that stuff without the net.

Fox News stated that the government has been watching AMREN for years. Are they watching you now? Reading iSteve might make you observation-worthy, but if you run for local office, that might provoke an unexpected visitor to ask you about your search history, on YouPorn.

Anonymous said...

It has some utterly spectacular assets, but it's been out of fashion for generations. And it's too close for its own good to guaranteed winners DC and NYC

What are its assets? Serious question. Don't know much about the city. It's smack dab in the middle between DC and NYC. It's literally 2 hours on I-95 from both NYC and DC. You'd think it would have carved out some niche for itself as a result, but I'm not aware of anything special there.

Anonymous said...

If a man can be this unhinged by a magazine article, he has no business running a city.

He should be running a country like, oh, Zimbabwe.

Anonymous said...

Brief synopsis - "We (the self-styled, unrepresentative 'leadership'), did not like the article because we did not agree with it. Therefore we have decided that the publisher of the article must be punished for having the temerity in publishing it, and the author is publically execreated for the crime of expressing an opinion. Freedom of speech and freedom of expression and dissemination of opinion be damned."

Only it took them hundreds of words of turgid, stodgy, duplicitous, weasly and pompous pseudo-intellectual prose to say it.

Anonymous said...

I've always though of Philadelphia as a city full of tough white ethnics. Like a cross between Southie and Benonshurst. Anybody remember Mayor Rizzo? The white Italian-American mayor who fought a battle with the Black Panthers in his city?

You would think there'd be more resistance in this type of city.

Anonymous said...

If a man can be this unhinged by a magazine article, he has no business running a city.

He should be running a country like, oh, Zimbabwe.


Some day, he might.

but he won't have to travel far.

Peter the Shark said...

What are its assets?

Some great architecture for a start. If it were cleaned up it could be the prettiest city on the East Coast, nicer than New York or Boston IMHO. Because of th universities and the medical infrastructure, it still has a fairly lively cultural and intellectual scene. Excellent restaurants that are much more affordable than NYC or DC. There is a cool bar scene, and people are friendlier and more approachable than in NYC, DC or Boston. It's a great sports town. It has (had?) a great working class white ethnic population that was rooted in tradition and place, proud of itself but less xenophobic than white working class in Boston or New York. Unfortunately that culture is being decimated, and is moving out to NJ.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps the Internet and search engines have made for greater self-policing against crimethink since everything now goes on your permanent record.

I think thats why TPTB love Facebook. It encourages users to operate under their own name. Thus the groupthink and crimestop operate much as they do IRL. When someone post anonymously, say what they really think they cant be shamed, terrorized into silence. Facebook is helping to bring back that tyranny. Google is trying harder to get people to use IDs that are their supposed real names too.

You hear people bleating 'what if's' regarding the govt getting access to gmail, facebook etc. Get real, they probably had access from the day FB was set up.

Steve Sailer said...

I gave a speech in Philadelphia in 2004 and it was pretty great on Broad Street. And one restaurant I went to was just about the most delicious meal I've ever had. The private golf courses in the suburbs (e.g., Pine Valley, Merion) compete with NYC for the best golf city in the country. Lots of assets accumulate over the years.

Anonymous said...

"It's literally 2 hours on I-95 from both NYC and DC. You'd think it would have carved out some niche for itself as a result, but I'm not aware of anything special there."

The NY and Philly commuter zones overlap in NJ. Some NJ to NY commuters live equidistant between NY and Philly. A commute which is no farther than Eastern Long Islamd to NY.

Anonymous said...

Does this idiot ever read the news?Whites are being attacked by blacks all over the country.

Aleph One said...

Kudos to Mayor Nutter for proving the point of the Philadelphia magazine article, which is that whites don't dare speak openly about race for fear of the reaction from blacks. What could better illustrate the point than Nutter's own over-the-top reaction to the article?

Anonymous said...

"Does this idiot ever read the news?Whites are being attacked by blacks all over the country."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/08/09/youve-damaged-your-own-race-philly-mayor-blasts-teens-flash-mobs/

Of course, for me, the article about white feelings about blacks doesn't go far enough. It too is afraid to mention the fact the main reason whites fear blacks is because blacks are tougher and naturally more aggressive. Jack-Johnson-ism is at work.

Anonymous said...

Steve, Dan Jenkins calls Pine Valley the best course in America. Agree?

Peter the Shark said...

Does this idiot ever read the news?Whites are being attacked by blacks all over the country.

If he just reads mainstream newspapers or websites, he probably doesn't know anything about whites being attacked by blacks all over the country. The media goes out its way to hush that up.

Cail Corishev said...

I think thats why TPTB love Facebook. It encourages users to operate under their own name. Thus the groupthink and crimestop operate much as they do IRL.

One of the most amazing (and least remarked-upon) shifts in the last decade has been people going from paranoia about revealing themselves online, to near-total unconcern about it. Ten years ago, many people were afraid to send email to anyone except close friends, for fear that they'd end up on mailing lists. The movie The Net had people convinced that, if you shared anything about yourself online (and maybe even if you didn't), nefarious entities could track what you had for breakfast. Anonymous posting servers and remailers were somewhat commonly used by the savvy, even if they never said anything dangerous -- just to keep their personal stuff personal.

Now, those same people think nothing of posting pictures of their kids playing in the backyard, which can be studied for hiding places via Google Maps. It has to be a great time to be a burglar: once you know who lives in a house, just watch where they tweet from to see when they won't be home for a while.

And yes, it's had a stifling effect. Ten years ago, I posted everything I wrote under my own name, but it was in places like Usenet where no one knew me personally. Now, with services like Facebook making it so my real-life friends are likely to read my stuff, I've switched to a pseudonym just as everyone else has become more public. If I were to post under my own name the kind of stuff I write here, I'd spend more time explaining and disclaiming than I would writing anything original, and many of them would never get it anyway. Unless you can make being a dissident a full-time job, that's just not worth it.

NOTA said...

The interesting thing is, the actual article is not the least bit inflamatory. I have to thank both the mayor and Ta-Nahisi Coates for making such a fuss that I went ahead and read the article. It wasn't anything all that spectacular, but it was certainly worth reading. (Notably, TNC didn't like it at all, but still linked to it, which strikes me as the great defining advantage of the blogosphere over traditional media.)

I'm curious about why Nutter was apparently so upset about the article. My best guess is that he'd rather not see this kind of discussion start up in public, as it would be bad for his political future. And so he made a strategic decision to try to hammer it down, in hopes that he can avoid having the dam break, and having lots and lots of white voters and residents start talking openly among themselves about how they really feel about race relations in their city.

But I coud certainly be missing something. Is there some offensive subtext I'm missing here, because I just don't get it.



Anonymous said...

I really can't think of anything which defines the current conversation about race than this.

Svigor said...

Whenever someone says someehing such as "freedom of speech is not an unfettered right," I respond in pun with the chat room acronym, "OIC."

One thing the gun "debate" has driven home for me is how flimsy the liberal regard for rights really is. These are the people that find the right to privacy and in utero murder in the Constitution, but deny the right to keep and bear arms with straight-faced semantic quibbles openly based on illiteracy as argument. They say that the first clause in the 2nd somehow limits the second, declarative cause, like this:

"Now Jane, Joe, your mother and I are going out to a party to have fun; while we are gone, you will stay in the house and not let anyone in." Jane calls mom and asks her if she's having fun, and mom says "not really." Jane hangs up and tells Joe "Mom just told me we can invite over all our friends and have a party."

pat said...

I wonder about the term "gentrification"?

When I was just out of grad school I had two young Jewish office mates at the consulting firm. David fashioned himself an urban pioneer. He had bought a slum building on Capitol Hill a few blocks from where Congress met.

He also fashioned himself financially astute. He realized that US pennies contained more than a penny's worth of copper. He hoarded penny's in a big box he kept in his kitchen. One day a neighbor kicked down his back door and stole his box. I always thought that was ironic - or should I say cupric?

David was a gentrifier. He was there to restore the neighborhood but like everyone else I've ever heard of who did that - he was young not old.

The real variable of course is race. But that fact seems to have been occluded deliberately by commentators through the use of an association with age.

There are lots of 'gentrified' urban neighborhoods now. What was the mean age of the home owners when they moved in?

There is another group also often overlooked - the gays. In San Francisco the major force for gentrification of run down neighborhoods was the invasion of young gay couples. A pair of gay men will have two people in the house who will ascend a ladder to fix the roof. I don't believe there have ever been any straight couples like that. Women are far too sensible.

The Castro region was a very tired part of the City before the gays moved in. You could see the progress of the gay invasion by the fresh paint. Gay marriage - it is seldom mentioned by the media - is very good for property values.

It's like that odd term 'homophobic'. In San Francisco I was afraid of all the minorities except the gays.

But gay neighborhood restoration like white restoration are both hidden under the term of gentrification, as if people my age were responsible.

Albertosaurus

Anonymous said...

Adrienne Simpson is the only black employee for Philadelphia Magazine and she ain't happy.

She's had a very nice, South Jersey childhood which most, if not all white kids could envy. Wouldn't it be great if you went to a school that only had one black kid? She did. How'd she get so lucky? She shows a great capacity for gratitude and expresses it by bashing her employer in a competitor's website.

Here's a sample:

"Bob Huber seems fixated on what white people are allowed to say about black people. Some would say he risked a lot in his quest to find out. Well, I have no idea what black employees are allowed to say about being black at Philly Mag, but I guess it's time I find out. I'll let you know who took the bigger risk."

My bet: Huber apologizes to keep his job. Simpson has just guaranteed herself a sinecure for as long as she chooses.

stari_momak said...

"I think thats why TPTB love Facebook. It encourages users to operate under their own name. Thus the groupthink and crimestop operate much as they do IRL."

It takes all of five minutes, maybe, to set up a fake facebook ID. Do it at a coffeehouse, and even the IP address doesn't allow you to be tracked. If you are really worried, by a $200 'burner' laptop from which to post your 'hate'.

Sword said...

Carousel said...
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I really need to move to another country. Problem is, what first world country isn't drowning in this crap?
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Good question. I think that Steve should do a piece on that. Meanwhile, you might move to the Dakotas or Maine.

That said, there are probably several European countries that are in better shape than USA in this regard. The fact that many European countries have low birthrates should work in your favor over the long run.

Maybe we can engineer some kind of deal with Japan - people with no criminal record and at least X million dollars in net worth are allowed to immigrate there! Worth a try.

Cail Corishev said...

I really need to move to another country. Problem is, what first world country isn't drowning in this crap?

I'm told that Poland is in pretty good shape, especially if you're Catholic. It's almost 90% Catholic, and half of them go to church. That may not sound outstanding, but it's far better than other European countries where many churches are empty museum pieces. Being behind the Iron Curtain while the rest of Europe was falling for various modernist schemes may have actually saved them in the long run. Plus, they experienced the actual fruits of socialism first-hand, and haven't forgotten that yet.

Demographically, it's filled with Polish people -- only something like 3% claim another nationality, and most of those are German or other Eastern Europeans. (Imagine if the US were 97% native-born white American, with the other 3% being primarily Canadian, Aussie, or Northern European. Racial strife? What's that?)

Their economy is growing, and they make a great sausage. I don't know much more about it than that (never been there), but if I were looking to emigrate, I think it'd be at the top of my list.

Svigor said...

"Bob Huber seems fixated on what white people are allowed to say about black people. Some would say he risked a lot in his quest to find out. Well, I have no idea what black employees are allowed to say about being black at Philly Mag, but I guess it's time I find out. I'll let you know who took the bigger risk."

Translation: I was unable to intimidate or guilt-trip Bob out of his interest in what whites are allowed to say about blacks. Now he gets the whip he asked for.

Svigor said...

There is another group also often overlooked - the gays. In San Francisco the major force for gentrification of run down neighborhoods was the invasion of young gay couples. A pair of gay men will have two people in the house who will ascend a ladder to fix the roof. I don't believe there have ever been any straight couples like that. Women are far too sensible.

Much more importantly, they have zero little people to send into the local, low-intensity-conflict schools.

Svigor said...

Nutter is learning from the muslims: shut down criticism by threatening straightforward violence, not legal action. Why get tangled in formalities when you can simply frighten people into silence or physically-injure them if they persist in saying stuff your gang doesn't like?

Indeed. Ever read Covington's novels? I kinda wonder how much they could have accomplished without escalating things beyond the late night come to Jesus meetings with problematic locals.

Anonymous said...

" Cail Corishev said...
I really need to move to another country. Problem is, what first world country isn't drowning in this crap?

I'm told that Poland is in pretty good shape, especially if you're Catholic. It's almost 90% Catholic, and half of them go to church. That may not sound outstanding, but it's far better than other European countries where many churches are empty museum pieces. Being behind the Iron Curtain while the rest of Europe was falling for various modernist schemes may have actually saved them in the long run. Plus, they experienced the actual fruits of socialism first-hand, and haven't forgotten that yet.

Demographically, it's filled with Polish people -- only something like 3% claim another nationality, and most of those are German or other Eastern Europeans. (Imagine if the US were 97% native-born white American, with the other 3% being primarily Canadian, Aussie, or Northern European. Racial strife? What's that?)

Their economy is growing, and they make a great sausage. I don't know much more about it than that (never been there), but if I were looking to emigrate, I think it'd be at the top of my list."


Poland is unique, I was born, raised, and live in the US, but I can speak, read, write fluently in Polish, and even I have trouble fitting in when I travel to Poland. I would love to move back to the mother land as I do not see the decadent US as a viable future place of residence or to raise children. But, if I a man of Polish descent may have trouble integrating, what makes others think they will integrate too?

I have always been somewhat amazed at the constant praise that people bestow Poland as a model nation and assuming they would fit right in. Poland is quite an insular nation, even though the elites are trying to destroy that.

On a side note, be skeptical of PUA's who claim Poland, Polish women, and clubs/pick up in Poland are easy. If you have spent any time in Poland or been to clubs anywhere in Poland you will easily nationalistic tendencies and disdain for foreigners. There is a good chance you may get your ass beat if you make the wrong moves. Polish males tend to be hyper aggressive, though you may see them praying attentively at church on Sunday and helping old ladies cross the street, don't be surprised to find yourself knocked out with a broken jaw.

Without "plecy" (translation, your friends/group having your back) you should be wary of PUAing in Poland, regardless of whether you are native Polish or a foreigner.