May 23, 2013

America is getting Chechenier

So, Chechen immigrant Ibragim Todashev was just about to sign his confession when he suddenly attacked three FBI agents with some kind of object and was shot dead? But doesn't this sound like a story you'd hear from the Russian government about what happened to somebody they didn't like in Chechnya? You know, one of those stories that they don't even try very hard to make persuasive because they kind of want you to know they did it and they can get away with it?

(Realistically, it's not uncommon for cops to shoot people for reasons that don't sound very plausible afterwards, like in the killing a few years ago of an 18-year-old violist by plainclothes cops "debriefing" in a parking lot in my neighborhood. Usually, I surmise, the conspiracies come not before the shooting, but afterwards as the cops try to put together a story that will semi-cohere.)

From Reuters:
(Reuters) - The father of a Chechen immigrant killed during questioning over his links with one of the Boston Marathon bombings suspects said on Thursday he plans to travel to the United States where he thinks his son was tortured and killed. ...
"I suspect that they tortured my son and that he suffered a painful death," said Abdulbaki Todashev, wiping away tears at the home he shares with one of his wives in the mostly Muslim region of Chechnya in Russia's North Caucasus.

Did I ever mention that chicks dig Chechens?
"I will try to go to (the United States) and get to the truth," he said as he received neighbours and acquaintances paying their respects to the dead man, the oldest of 12 children between his father's two wives. 
Todashev had met the Tsarnaevs when he travelled to the United States to improve his English, said his father, who works in the mayor's office in Chechnya's main city of Grozny and is said to be on close terms with regional leader Ramzan Kadyrov.

Clearly, anybody who's tight with Ramzan Kadyrov is completely trustworthy. (For more on the inimitable Ramzan Kadyrov, see my next post.)
Ramzan Kadyrov
He said he gave his permission when his son asked to stay in the United States because he said it was safer than Chechnya,

Did anybody in the U.S. government give permission? Does anybody care? I've often said before that just as the government has the independent National Transportation Safety Board to not whitewash airliner crashes, we need an independent National Immigration Safety Board to review cases of "Why was this guy in our country?"
where separatists waged two wars with Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union and militants still fight for an Islamic state.

To the extent that we can trust anything Mr. Todashev says, he is implying that the Todashev family was threatened by Islamic rebels who objected to his being pals with the Putin-appointed Kadyrov.
Todashev travelled to the United States in 2008 on a Russian passport, a federal law enforcement source said, and lived in Boston before moving to Florida, where he was killed. His father said he had a plane ticket to return to Russia on Friday. 
"He shouldn't have left. He lived comfortably and his mother was very worried about him because he was the oldest in the family and she was used to him being a model for the others," said a neighbour, Malika, who refused to give her last name.

So, he lived comfortably in Chechnya and his mother was more worried about him being in America? I thought he was some kind of refugee? What was young Todashev doing in our country, again?
The FBI agent who shot Todashev, who practised mixed martial arts, has not been publicly identified but is from the agency's Boston division, the Orlando Sentinel reported. ...

Surely, one of the three FBI agents was recording the conversation on his smartphone, so the FBI will be releasing the audio tape momentarily, right?
"Chechens have a power in their unity and interest in what happens in their homeland. It unites them. That's the reason my son became an acquaintance of the Tsarnaevs," said Todashev, speaking in the courtyard of his older wife's house.

Indeed.

But ... hey, what about the Magic of Assimilation?

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

The Google Images search on "Ramzan Kadyrov" is great. You see him with tigers, lions, gold-plated guns, Putin, half-naked babes, etc. He's clearly enjoying life.

Anonymous said...

In one shot he's vying for a football with Maradona, in another brandishing a fist with Mike Tyson, in another dining with Depardieu.

Anonymous said...

Oh, I just noticed that Steve has already mined that territory in the previous posting.

gubbler, champion of all things checheny said...

Chechens. White People who never say "I'm Sorry".

Anglos in the Wild West used to be like Chechens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3bhwIvtwY4

gubbler, champion of all things checheny(except criminality) said...

"Did I ever mention that chicks dig Chechens?"

Sure beats Rich Lowry and Ken Burns.

Anonymous said...

No gubbler, Westerners were better than Chechens. Chechen science, technology, art and literature don't amount to much.

gubbler, champion of all things checheny(except criminality) said...

"No gubbler, Westerners were better than Chechens."

Before scientists arrived, the West had to be conquered and settled by a bunch of John Waynes, and they were not bookish folks.

Anonymous said...

Steve do you really have no choice but to cater to the misperceptions of men who only see the lowest common denominator of women and ignore the relatively functional 90% of us?

Gloria

Cail Corishev said...

Anglos in the Wild West used to be like Chechens.

I often find myself wishing American men were still more like cowboys (or that America were still that kind of country). That doesn't mean I think we should import them.

Anonymous said...

gubbler:"Before scientists arrived, the West had to be conquered and settled by a bunch of John Waynes, and they were not bookish folks."

Compared to their Amerind and Mexican enemies, the "John Waynes" were bookish to the core.

Anonymous said...

There is a video of him here holding court. I don't understand a word of Chechen either, but it was interesting to associate those images with a voice. Roissy likes to dissect alpha body language - this guy's a perfect subject for that too.

Superficially, the language sounds weird, a bit like Turkish, a bit like Arabic, but with its own exoticism too.

Some of the languages of the Caucasus have no relatives outside of those mountains. Chechen is such a language. They must have had relatives in pre-history, but they were swept away everywhere many thousands of years ago, before the spread of writing. Any hard-to-access area becomes a refuge for archaic stuff, not just in linguistics.

Anonymous said...

Gubbler,

If you want to understand the difference between NECs and White men, read the Wikipedia bio of Koos de la Rey and compare it to Steve's posts on Kadyrov.

De la Rey = great White man

Kadyrov = NEC playboy

Anonymous said...

gubbler -

The Chechens have had quite a while to supercede their barbarous natures and produce culture like the West. It hasn't happened, and it's probably not going to happen anytime soon.

Anonymous said...

"Before scientists arrived, the West had to be conquered and settled by a bunch of John Waynes, and they were not bookish folks."

Bullshit.

Alfred the Great defended England from the Vikings, and also translated Boethius into Old English.

The soul of the White man is half Viking and half Quaker, and the tension between the two is Western Civilization.

Hitler was too Viking and, reacting against him, the post-WW2 West became too Quaker, but we will find our balance again and when we do we will, like Odysseus, retake what is rightfully ours.

Harry Baldwin said...

Maybe while he was being interviewed Ibragim Todashev started chanting "Allahu akbar!" and the agent from Boston just couldn't take it.

David Davenport said...

Steve do you really have no choice but to cater to the misperceptions of men who only see the lowest common denominator of women and ignore the relatively functional 90% of us?

We want loyalty from 100 percent of white women.

Besides, some of those low class ten percenter femmes have some sex appeal.

Jack Hanson said...

Hey Steve, here's some diversity UK style: Phoenix police officer killed by illegal alien in hit and run accident. Later on, the illegal alien got picked up during a felony drug busy.

Mexicans being Mexican!

http://www.kpho.com/story/22300512/police-arrest-owner-of-suv-in-hit-and-run-that-killed-officer

This, for obvious reasons has gotten zero play in the MSM. Can't have these wonderful tales of diversity getting out there, what with a beatific Senator smiling while future illegals chant Si se puede. America 2013.

Anonymous said...

There's no audio tape. The FBI prohibits its agents from making video or audio recordings of interrogations. They prefer that juries and the rest of the public should just take the agents' word for what was said.

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/20070402_FBI_Memo.pdf

Anonymous said...

"There's no audio tape. The FBI prohibits its agents from making video or audio recordings of interrogations. They prefer that juries and the rest of the public should just take the agents' word for what was said. "

Wow, that is outrageous. Our country crumbles from all sides.