May 2, 2013

Dweebs think Chechens are cool, too

With the news of three additional suspects in federal custody, questions remain about the motive for the Boston Marathon bombing and whether the attack involved conspirators beyond the Tsarnaev brothers. But an account from an acquaintance of the suspects—a student at the University of Massachusetts-Dartmouth who was once romantically involved with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev himself—helps shed light on the individuals now at the center of the investigation.

The woman, who lived in the same dorm at UMass–Dartmouth as Tsarnaev during the 2011-12 academic year, told Mother Jones that she first met and had a "fleeting fling" with the bombing suspect during the fall of 2011. Around the same time, she says, she met Tsarnaev's college buddies Dias Kadyrbayev, Azamat Tazhayakov, and Robel Phillipos, the men now accused of helping Tsarnaev dispose of evidence and lying to investigators after the bombing. 
Kadyrbayev and Tazhayakov, the woman said, were part of a group of about five Russian-speaking friends at the university whom Tsarnaev was never without. 
"They all sort of idolized Jahar," she said, using the name she and others knew Tsarnaev by. "Dias was probably the one closest to him." She said that of the friends, Tsarnaev was the most popular and in touch with campus social life. "I cannot speak to the nature of their relationship because of the language barrier, however I did observe that Jahar was always the leader in his group." ...
She got to know the group, she said, while hanging around campus with them, smoking pot and listening to music. She says her romantic relationship with Tsarnaev lasted for about two weeks. "I met him standing outside a building and honestly, his face was enough to capture my heart," she explained, noting that lots of women fawned over him. "I walked right up to him and I was like, 'Oh my God, you are adorable. Can we hang out?' I'm very forward." 
Her nascent romance with Tsarnaev soon soured, though, after he invited her to come to his dorm room alone. "He wanted to go further than I did, and that made me uncomfortable, and I realized that that's not the kind of person that I wanted to be around," she says. "I don't think that's necessarily being a terrorist. I think that's just called being a hands-y teenaged boy."

39 comments:

Anonymous said...

she first met and had a "fleeting fling" with the bombing suspect during the fall of 2011.
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She says her romantic relationship with Tsarnaev lasted for about two weeks.
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Her nascent romance with Tsarnaev soon soured, though, after he invited her to come to his dorm room alone. "He wanted to go further than I did, and that made me uncomfortable, and I realized that that's not the kind of person that I wanted to be around," she says.


OK, I don't get it. Does this mean they were not having sex, and she broke up with him when he wanted to? From the earlier passages, I just assumed she already put out.

Anonymous said...

It sounds like she didn't put out and he was expecting her to.

Like a lot of ostensibly pious Muslims, it sounds like these ones indulged in Western decadence while angrily criticizing it.

Likewise denouncing a government while being fed, clothed, and housed by it.

David said...

>OK, I don't get it. Does this mean they were not having sex<

She's bragging to the world about her fling but on the other hand, she doesn't want people to think she's that kind of girl. Just think she's like totally daring and forward and had a fling. But don't think she's that kind of girl.

It reads like CYA for both a. possible accusations of criminal involvement, and b. assumptions of sluttiness. Anyone would babble under that pressure.

Who knows what the truth is in her case? Only an FBI grilling could reach it (maybe). Maybe she herself no longer knows the truth.

Anonymous said...

I did observe that Jahar was always the leader in his group."

So much for The Narrative that Djoker killed because as a submissive little brother he had fallen under the sway of his older brother.

Anonymous said...

So, Joker a dominant personality, with hangers-on and groupies, a forceful character and a, gulp, leader?

Bad MSM! This is going to harm the defense's case, which is that the older brother was the svengali type and the younger his submissive, compliant apprentice, helpless to argue or to resist.

All is not lost, however. Soon we will hear that Tamerlan had Joker under 24-hour surveillance, that he had fed him mind-altering drugs, and that Joker tried to escape and inform the authorities, but that T. had wired the backpacks so he could detonate Joker's bomb by remote control if he had eloped. Poor kid never had a chance.

Something like it anyway.

Dave Pinsen said...

Has Ta-Nehisi Coates weighed in on this yet? Apparently, he's been spending some time in Cambridge, as an MLK Visiting Scholar at MIT.

Kaz said...

@Anonymous @ 9:10PM

Does it matter? He's getting life no matter what..

Auntie Analogue said...


To fill the hole in this girl's life made by her breakup with Dzhokhar, our Dear Rulers simply must import more Third Worlders for her to be "forward" with!

Anonymous said...

@Anonymous @ 9:10PM

Does it matter? He's getting life no matter what..


Is such a prisoner allowed conjugal visits?

Alden said...

If Obama had a son, he'd look like Robel Phillipos.

Anonymous said...

Dweebs rule.

Anonymous said...

"questions remain about the motive for the Boston Marathon bombing ... " Classic idiocy.

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUoRwBYfW-I

We need to get caucky

Anonymous said...

Jahar looks like Jesus attacking the monychangers in the temple

Monkey Man said...

"Like a lot of ostensibly pious Muslims, it sounds like these ones indulged in Western decadence while angrily criticizing it."

Yeah like "Heartiste" and all the gamers. But let's keep shitting on muslims, if only to deflect from the actual tribe behind so many of our real ills. They're like borat! Hahaha! And they talk weird and have the nerve to come here when "we" invite them and then they get all angry and shit when our government kills and maims them in large numbers.

Ape Man said...

"Yeah like "Heartiste" and all the gamers. But let's keep shitting on muslims, if only to deflect from the actual tribe behind so many of our real ills."

You're the one deflecting. Muslims planted the bombs that blew kids' legs off at the Boston Marathon. Getting blown up by Muslims, or having or civil rights infringed upon because of continual attempts by Muslims to blow us up, are "real ills". The perpetrators of those ills deserve to be shit upon.

Anonymous said...

OK, I don't get it. Does this mean they were not having sex, and she broke up with him when he wanted to? From the earlier passages, I just assumed she already put out.

Perhaps the bomb boy, just like Bill Clinton back in the day, did not have sexual relations with that woman.

Maya said...

Okay, to be fair, peers thinking that Joker was a cool dude BEFORE he proved to be a worm isn't the same as ditzes writing love letters to him AFTER he blew up innocent people.

Of course, staying loyal and trying to help the "cool dude" after finding out that he's wanted for a terrorist act makes those three exactly like the crushing ditzes on tmblr.

If I find out that Mr. Sailer rapes little kids in his basement, I won't like him any more. At all. But I won't feel guilty about liking him before I found out.

Anonymous said...

Yeah like "Heartiste" and all the gamers. But let's keep shitting on muslims, if only to deflect from the actual tribe behind so many of our real ills. They're like borat! Hahaha! And they talk weird and have the nerve to come here when "we" invite them and then they get all angry and shit when our government kills and maims them in large numbers.

Muslims shit all over themselves. I'd rather not invade nor invite them. We can agree on that.

Mr. Anon said...

""I walked right up to him and I was like, 'Oh my God, you are adorable. Can we hang out?' I'm very forward.""

Being forward witha foreigner, especially a muslim one, would never be construed as acting like a slut. Is that what young women are taught nowadays? Very empowering.

Cail Corishev said...

OK, I don't get it. Does this mean they were not having sex, and she broke up with him when he wanted to?

It means he wanted anal and she's saving that for marriage.

Sorry, but when a college girl today says "fleeting fling," that means they had sex. A "fling" hasn't meant sharing a soda at the malt shop and necking at Inspiration Point for at least twenty years now.

peterike said...

Poor girl couldn't help falling for the Joker. It was the pompatus of love that got her.

Harry Baldwin said...

Anonymous Anonymous said... "questions remain about the motive for the Boston Marathon bombing ... " Classic idiocy.

Translation: "We struggle to find a non-Islamic motive for the Boston Marathon bombing."

Black Sea said...

He was approached by a stranger -- a young woman -- who told him up front that she found him "adorable" and that she wanted to hang out with him. This same young woman subsequently refused sex with him?

No wonder he developed a hatred of American culture.

Harry Baldwin said...

She says, "I walked right up to him and I was like, 'Oh my God, you are adorable. Can we hang out?' I'm very forward."

So then she's taken aback that he assumes she wants to have sex with him? What else would any guy think?
(It's not even clear that she's talking about actual intercourse as she calls him "hands-y".) Male-female relations have gotten very strange since I was dating.

Svigor said...

"I cannot speak to the nature of their relationship because of the language barrier, however I did observe that Jahar was always the leader in his group."

Well, that answers my question about who these alphas were leading.

Svigor said...

In Mass? The odds are pretty good, would be my guess. If it goes federal? I dunno, but somehow I doubt it. One thing I've noticed is that conjugal visits come up at this blog far more often than they do on TV shows, and most of the stuff I watch is crime-related. CVs are probably one of those realities the Media Masters don't think the public can handle in a mature fashion.

Anonymous said...

This chick is bragging about using her wizard's sleeve?

Marc B said...

A former co-worker who fled Iraq during Desert Storm and fit the MWGC stereotype admitted that Arab/Muslim men actively seek out American women for sex and not for marriage or even relationships.

The transplanted Arab culture dictates that their women are to remain pure for marriage while Western women are to be used as playthings. He eventually married an attractive Iraqi woman via an arranged marriage secured by his family connections back home and ended his party boy lifestyle in his mid-30's.

rob said...

Monkey Man, Ape Man,

As one primate to a couple others, I think we can reach some mutual ground.

Monkey Man, the US is involved in military actions in traditionally Muslim areas. There is a fair fair amount of "collateral damage." Collateral damage is more like muder by terminator robots when one knows the collateral by local expressions that mean "mom" or "dad." Getting involved in the Muslim was worse than evil. It was a mistake.

Ape Man, there is no reason to have friends and family, or even co-religionists of the collaterally damaged in the US. None at all.

Stop killing them overseas, don't let more come, and deport all the ones already here.

Perfect solution. I await my Nobel Peace Prize nomination.

Anonymous said...

I think that modern women are used to setting the ground rules (or attempting to - it doesn't always work and sometimes results in "rape") so that those that assumed that she was having sex (in the sense of traditional intercourse) with him are probably wrong. Maybe she is lying and really did, but she doesn't sound like the kind of person who would have any qualms about admitting to intercourse if that is what she was really doing. That's where the relationship probably would have gone eventually, just not yet.

Which leads to another mystery - usually Islamic terrorists (especially suicide bombers) are sexually frustrated, but the Tsarnaev brothers clearly were not (maybe this is why they did not commit suicide, but their lack of planning for "after" was virtually suicidal).

Steve Sailer said...

peterike said...
Poor girl couldn't help falling for the Joker. It was the pompatus of love that got her.


Bing, bing, bing, we have a winner.

Tony said...

2 of the guys look asian and the other one moulinyan.

Anonymous said...

He's very popular, Ed. The immigrants and skinheads, muslims, sluts, singers, lefties, dweebies, dickheads...they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLy9U8gPKT0

Maya said...

My goodness! The conservatives really need to lure gays onto their side. As it stands, the whole movement can be derailed by the thought of a hint of a possibility that a young woman might or might not have had sex.

Maya said...

"OK, I don't get it. Does this mean they were not having sex, and she broke up with him when he wanted to?"

That's what it sounds like.

Happened to me a bunch (well, a couple of times) in the beginning of my college career. I'd feel alot of chemistry with a guy, flirt with him, hold hands on our way to the dining hall, sit in his arms while watching a movie in the common room. Then, he'd invite me to his room after a few weeks, and instead of having me listen to a play list of his favorite songs, he'd want to have sex. That's when it would end. I still thought that I had a "fleeting romantic relationship"...

Hunsdon said...

Our host said it first, but as I read peterike's comment, that's what I thought as well.

"He shoots, he scores, nothing but net."

Carl said...

" Anonymous Dave Pinsen said...

Has Ta-Nehisi Coates weighed in on this yet? Apparently, he's been spending some time in Cambridge, as an MLK Visiting Scholar at MIT."

Definitely, there's an opinion I just can't do without. Right up there with the sages Krugman, Tim Wise, and Malcolm Gladwell.

Cail Corishev said...

Then, he'd invite me to his room after a few weeks, and instead of having me listen to a play list of his favorite songs, he'd want to have sex. That's when it would end. I still thought that I had a "fleeting romantic relationship"...

I bet you didn't call it a "fling." A fling suggest throwing yourself into something with abandon, not holding hands. That means sex at least 99.9% of the time, although it could certainly be of the deniable "it wasn't really sex because I didn't do X" or "it wasn't really sex because I never took my shoes off" variety.