July 18, 2013

Zimmerman and the cracks in the Obama Coalition

My new VDARE.com article considers the implications of the Zimmerman rhubarb for the politics of immigration policy:
You might think that the violent, mindless rage directed by Democrats at George Zimmerman as the face of white racism (despite his being Hispanic) might get Republicans pondering how to exploit the inherent cracks in the Obama Coalition.

76 comments:

Anonymous said...

Just a few problems with that, Steve.

Firstly, and this is a trend that seems to embrace the entire western world, is that the immigrationist political party - which is the left party - increasingly defines its existence as being re-distributionist of both power and wealth from white males to 'minorities', and 'minoities here are just not blacks but white women, sub-continentals etc. Basically, western politics have degenerated into a vicious, babyish, primeval spoils system, a zero-sum game if you will, in which it is perceived by the immigrationist aprty that one group has all the goodies and it's stopping the other group from having the goodies. The sheer visceral appeal of this message cannot be matched by any rational argument, that's why the immigrationist parties will be unbeatable. Basically they are an alliance of turncoat whites at the top, who benefit from the lucrative sinecures running immigrationism and their power-base - everyone else be damned. It's not politics but anti-politics a way of trading political power for the few at the top by selling out the many to a client vote.
Immigration is the justification of immigrationist parties, immigrationist politicians are the justification of immigrants. An iron-bound circle that can never be broken, a symbiotic relationship in which both organisms feed off each other in mutual benefit.

As for the Reublicans, forget it. They are not the 'white' party they never were the 'white' party and never will be the 'white' party. But bending over and spreading their cheeks for big business, well that's a whole different ball game.

Jason said...

Taking a page from the point Trende made about getting Republicans' getting that extra 3% of the white vote (actually, he really does look like James Spader a little bit - weird), it would be interesting to come up with a list of those areas in states which could swing the difference put electoral votes in the GOP column. I really don't know enough about the white vote in America to comment, but a good start would be appealing to white blue-collars in Pennsylvania (obvious, I know). Living in a relatively poor area in northeastern Pittsburgh a few years ago, I saw - a knew a few of - a lot of relatively nice white proles who the GOP might reach out to.
The only objection I have to your column is your arguement that the GOP should not only concede African-Americans to the Dems but that the GOP should actively promote it. Is it really a good idea to encourage the two American political parties to become de jure ethnic parties, even while people might recognize that this is a de facto reality?

Anonymous said...

Is it just me, or has Rubio been wandering around with a dazed expression since his amnesty bill nuked his poll numbers?

Sort of like a recently escaped Gimp from Schumer's dungeon, who'd moved in believing Democratic assurances it was a suite at the Ritz?

Somebody give the poor guy cab fare.

Anonymous said...

Have you ever tried to show some White Pride or Self-Respect in the presence of Hispanics Steve?

Let me tell you...they are the most hissy-fittiest people ALIVE.

They aren't smart enough to actually do anything or argue in good old fashioned English style...But man they Whine and Bitch like no one's business.

They will never ever want to be white. So I don't know how any laws would get passed in 2040 America...

And the whole thing hinges on whites getting their self-respect back...and even if they did get their self-respect back you can't share a country with an entire race of emotionally charged whiny bitches.

Jefferson said...

If George Zimmerman was half Filipino on his mother's side for example instead of half Peruvian, would the left wing media have referred to him as a "White Asian" ?

Anonymous said...

Why do you want to save the Republican Party? The Republican Party can never represent the interests of millions of ordinary Native Born White Americans because the inner core of the Repubican Party is owned by the Mega-Corporations.

Speaking for myself and my family:the idea of being in a political coalition with the asians-a demographic group that votes enthusiastically for Native Born White American race-replacement is repellant. Asian legal immigrants have been stealing jobs and wages from Native Born White American Engineers and other types of White American tech workers since 1972...Gruman Aerospace in Bethpage threw hundreds of White Male Engineers out of work while at the same time was hiring Asian foriegners...Northrup-Gruman motto these days:"WE are a Global Force of Global Good"..invade the world-invite the world. I see the asians as a very hostile highly racialized fifth column in competion with us for the scarce resouces in America. Go to the Skyline Highway in October...asians of all stripes all over the place with three to four kids. You will experience first hand extreme alienation of being a White Minority in America.

The alternative to the Republican Party:a highly racialized Native Born White American political-social-cultural movement that is economically populist..libertarian-socialist..anarchist that takes on the root cause of Native Born White American race-replacement:the Mega-Corporations. Do this if you really want to scare the ....out of Noam Chomsky.

Native Born White American racial populism is really the only game in town when you think about it. The ultimate goal is Native Born White American self-goverment and self-determination...get rid of the polticians.

Your problem Steve is that you are are not thinking about much deeper-profounder poltical structures for Native Born White Americans. The current plight of Natve Born White Americans requires very deep and profound political alternatives.

Here is one way to think about your framework:its like trying to save a human body infested with all sorts of rapidly growing malignant tumors-cancer cells by trying to preserve a small region of the body that is not rancid with cancer..the diseased body-person should be euthanized and buried. Let the Republican Party croak and admit that hispanics and asians are not our kind.

By the way, my late father met Werner Von Braun several times at Gruman during the building of the LEM.

Bill Blizzard and his Men

BB753 said...

Of course, the GOP is not interested in that 3% of disaffected white voters. They´re not even interested in winning the presidency. You see, the Right -or what´s left of the Right- cannot wield real power anymore and they know it. The left has absolute control of the bureaucracy and of very managerial position that counts. The left owns the system. They control every nook of it: Finance, Press, government, big Corps, Judiciary you name it.
And so it happens that the Right is merely tolerated on the outskirts of power. Minor legislation, tax-cutting for their rich patrons as long as they don´t rock the boat.
Which is why the GOP comes across as a timid, pityful party, begging for the leftovers of the banquet Liberals indulge in, for some scraps of the pillaging. When not outright beging for mercy and acceptance. Sometimes the Right masquerades as libertarians, on board with everything the Regime does except occupying every nook and cranny of the economy. Libertarians are the tenured and pampered spokesmen for the few entrepreneurs left in the country. These turn into liberals as soon as they make it big.
The only way for the Right to make a comeback is by allying with the working class. That is, an alliance between those old-moneyed upper classes or entrepreneurs who no longer have any say, and the lower -middle and working class.
Why don´t they do it? Because they´re cowards, for one, and it would take a mini-coup to accomplish and because it´s much easier for them to keep the status quo. They make a living out of selling out their base, the middle class. As long as it pays them to do so and as long as their betrayal keeps them alive they won´t change their attitude.
In the past, the Right could chose between conservatism or fascism to accomplish their goals. Today they lack the moral fortitude to turn to the former, and the power to turn to the latter solution.
In a democracy you need: an ever expanding and client electoral base and street thugs to crush the opposition. You need to get dirty and leave the confort of think-tanks and office sinecures and get your feet firmly of main steet.
Alas, today´s brownshirts (Sturmabteilung or SA) and blackshirts (Camicie Nere)work for the Left.
Hitler and Mussolini rose to power mainly thanks to the million armed goons they had on the streets to crush the opposition, to squelch strikes, to intimidate voters during elections, etc. To counter terror with terror, as Roehm´s SA prided themselves to do.
This is basically what anti-racist activists, black power types and la Raza do or threaten to do. And the Left also has the police and judiciary to look the other way when thugs terrorize the opposition. Anarcho-tyranny is a modern tool of political repression of the citizenry. And now the Regime has drones and a permanent state of emergency to rely on to curb opposition.
Now, the Left is busy destroying the military, and keeping them busy far, far away. The moment the government runs out of money to subsidize both the army and the millions of people who live on welfare, EBT cards and Affirmative Action, they´re in deep trouble.
Until then, they reign supreme.



















Shouting Thomas said...

Every time I read about this case, or hear about it on TV, I want to scream:

George Zimmerman is Hispanic!

This fact obviously renders all the "white racism" discussion moot and ridiculous.

What in the hell is going on here?

Anonymous said...

Crazy Rudd changes law again.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/kevin-rudd-to-send-asylum-seekers-who-arrive-by-boat-to-papua-new-guinea-20130719-2q9fa.html

Usual players involved.

2Degrees said...

Two observations:

1). I don't see how anyone could deny the reality of what Jason Richwine said.

It would be a disaster for America if its low-IQ Hispanic population melded with its high-IQ white population.

All that will happen is that a powerhouse of scientific innovation will become just another Latino country - one of the better ones like Uruguay.

2). Why does anyone care what happens to the GOP.

In the UK, where I was born, a huge swathe of the white population has given up on the Conservative party and gone over to UKIP in recent Euro-elections and local council votes. It remains to be seen whether this will happen in a national election.

The reason for this is that it is no longer possible to see a meaningful distinction between Labour and the Conservatives. I don't live in the US and so I don't like the consequences of Obama's election, but is the US any different from Britain? Why does anyone care which pack of traitors occupies the White House?

Anonymous said...

The sheer visceral appeal of this message cannot be matched by any rational argument, that's why the immigrationist parties will be unbeatable. Basically they are an alliance of turncoat whites at the top, who benefit from the lucrative sinecures running immigrationism and their power-base - everyone else be damned. It's not politics but anti-politics a way of trading political power for the few at the top by selling out the many to a client vote.

I wouldn't underestimate the building reaction against this treason. The situation you describe is unstable. The presence of non-whites in electorates acts to radicalise the white population and motivate them to vote in a bloc, the US south writ large. This current situation was also enabled by the monopoly the MSM once held. Now the internet is here, the MSM is not getting its monopoly back. And even the MSM monopoly is not able to exercise the stranglehold on opinion it once had.

Witness the Daily Mail for example. If you read the comments, it's read by everyone all over the world, not just Britain. It gives our point of view a fair shake, and the comments that are most popular are highly rightist/Paleocon/WN in nature. Nothing remotely like this existed in 2000, for example. This both legitimises our views and proselytizes them. The next batch of leaders will have our number among them, and some of them will have money as well. There are a good number of us just biding our time.

I think the reaction will build and build, and eventually the situation will turn. The traitors will start to play it safe. The wishy-washy status whores will sense the way the wind is blowing, and switch polarization. People will start private schools that are have a rightist political bent and reject multiculturalism. All sorts of forces are going to compound, and the spring that has been stretched so far is going to snap back, hard.

Anonymous said...

The only objection I have to your column is your arguement that the GOP should not only concede African-Americans to the Dems but that the GOP should actively promote it. Is it really a good idea to encourage the two American political parties to become de jure ethnic parties, even while people might recognize that this is a de facto reality?

I think so. I think it makes the opposition party feel alien, for one. No one likes to be the odd one out - the one white guy in a black bar, or the straight in a gay bar, etc. I think what Steve suggests accentuates this effect.

With a realization that your own party is the party of your ethnic background, this can accelerate the degree to which the politicians start to compete on the degree to which they advocate for our interests instead of taking us for granted.

Anonymous said...

Again, the question that we were asking on the other thread:

Why hasn't Boobeeo unloaded on Holder & Obama for their treatment of his constituent and fellow Hispanic, George Zimmerman?

If Boobeeo really believes that Hispanics are the future of the GOP, then why isn't he barnstorming the state of FL [not to mention the Sunday Morning news shows] with George "Emmanuel Goldstein" Zimmerman at his side?

For that matter, why haven't MacCantor and Boner and Bitch McConnell and Reince Priaprism made George Zimmerman into the God-damned official mascot of the Republican Party?

If they can sing the Tomahawk Chop Warchant at FSU football games, then I don't see why the GOP isn't singing the George Zimmerman Bust-A-Cap-In-Your-Ventricle Narcocorridas Polka as its fight song.

I mean, hell, it would appeal to both the 2nd Amendment crowd and to the Hispanic Tribalists.

Er, I mean, the, ah, Hispanic Partially-Inbred-Extended-Family-Values-ists.

geoff said...

gop is other side of the same coin. we're all screwed until the space station gets built

Dr Van Nostrand said...

I think too many Republicans are still smarting over the hemorrhaging of black votes they suffered from the 50s inspite of being the party of Lincoln,liberty ,initiating Civil Rights et al so they think blacks belong in their party.
But it seems at best they make half hearted efforts at reaching them.They go thru avenues such as NAACP,Jackson and Sharpton and they are genuinely shocked to find that they are snubbed.
I think it should be more complicated than that, Republicans will better messaging may be able to poach the black middle class and leave the upper and lower classes to Democrats.Essentially the same strategy as for whites.

Unfortunately not enough of a Mexican middle class to try that with

But what of controlling the media and Hollywood? I hear conservatives whine about the liberal strangehold in these establishments but they not only dont they take action but they dont have any plan of action except complain about it on Daily Caller,Breitbart,HotAir or Newsbusters. Hows that working out for ya so far.
Koch Brothers have the right idea with LA Times, if Michelle Malkin really cared about owning the narrative. She would use that 100 million in purchasing another major paper or failing cable network

re Anon 12:41
I never understood the Rubio is handsome meme. To me he always looked like an odd duck


Have you ever tried to show some White Pride or Self-Respect in the presence of Hispanics Steve?

Let me tell you...they are the most hissy-fittiest people ALIVE. "

What are talking about? How do you define "White pride" ,I hope you dont mean a neo Nazi rally! In that case Im sure they would arrange a beat down by Mexican gang bangers and I would just tut tut on the sidelines and channel Kissinger(too bad both cant lose)

No one whines more than white suburban grad school kids these days
What was OWS but a SWPL whine fest?

Flavius said...

All that matters is that every White country on earth is being swamped with oceans of non-Whites. Everything else is a footnote.

If this continues, there won't be any more majority White countries soon.

Anonymous said...

I think you're trying too hard to out-Schumer Schumer. It won't work. You'll just get Schumered where it hurts the most, and you'll never forget it.

Anonymous said...

By 2040 the U.S will cease to exist. I believe there will be secession movements that will tear it apart by then. It will split into 3 or more countries, one predominantly white(Mid-West/much of the South/Part of the North), one predominantly hispanic(in California and the South West), and a very mixed hispanic/black/asian/white Brazil like country along much of the east coast.

This secession will be preceded by years of economic collapse, civil unrest, violence, and probably outright war, along with mass migrations/refugees of the different ethnics into their respective states. Blacks won't have their own state because they lack the organizational skills, and will be too busy fighting among themselves to create a stable political unit for self-rule.

Mr. Anon said...

"Jason said...

Is it really a good idea to encourage the two American political parties to become de jure ethnic parties, even while people might recognize that this is a de facto reality?"

Yes.

Scharlach said...

There are a handful of Los Angeles suburbs in which this strategy has, without any conscious Machiavellian politicking, played out in the Republicans’ favor. For example, California’s 42nd congressional district is 36% Hispanic, 8% Asian, and only 46% white; some cities in this district, like Chino, are majority Hispanic. Yet this district has overwhelmingly voted Republican in most races for the past decade, even though its demographic reality should guarantee Democratic victories.

Or the 39th congressional district: 32% Hispanic, 28% Asian. It has gone to the Democrats in most major races in the recent past, but in 2012, the district voted in favor of Romney over Obama, 50/47.

The most striking case is the 22nd congressional district: 44% Hispanic. But look at all that red! Their current representative, Devin Nunes, is a Tea Party type who has called Obama a “wimp” for not allowing the military to use enhanced interrogation techniques.

Read more here:

http://habitableworlds.wordpress.com/2013/07/19/fracturing-the-coalition/

Apologies for the shameless plug, but I'm too lazy to put all the hyperlinks in by hand on this comment system.

Elli said...

Why don't Filipinos call themselves Hispanic anyway? They were a Spanish colony, most have Spanish names, most are Catholic, some could pass as mestizos. So what if they don't speak Spanish much?

DPG said...

OT: a part of me thinks this Steve Cohen thing is an elaborate coverup of an affair, but as an unmarried man he has nothing to lose. What gives? A young hottie thinks it would be good for her career to have a Congressmen as a dad, and the childless 60 year-old is gullible enough to go along with it?

Anonymous said...

"Murder Mystery(?) Michael Hastings and a CyberSecurity Firm Called Endgame"

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2013/07/murder-mystery-michael-hastings-and.html

"Reports are starting to surface about a connection between the reporter Michael Hastings and a mysterious cybersecurity firm known as Endgame.

Hastings has been linked to Barrett Brown, who the government alleges is the leader of the hacker group Anonymous. He is in jail and is being held without bail."

"Hastings was planning to interview Brown:

Before his untimely death, Hastings was working on a story about Barrett, announcing mysteriously to his followers “Get ready for your mind to be blown.” Hastings had been in touch with Barrett’s lawyers, and intended to interview him in June for the story. Barrett has been in prison for 281 days pending trial, and faces over a hundred years imprisonment for what Hastings called ”trumped up FBI charges regarding his legitimate reportorial inquiry into the political collective known sometimes as Anonymous.”"

"Barrett, at the time he was arrested,was studying Endgame. The Nation reports:

Brown began looking into Endgame Systems, an information security firm that seemed particularly concerned about staying in the shadows. “Please let HBGary know we don’t ever want to see our name in a press release,” one leaked e-mail read. One of its products, available for a $2.5 million annual subscription, gave customers access to “zero-day exploits”—security vulnerabilities unknown to software companies—for computer systems all over the world. Business Week published a story on Endgame in 2011, reporting that “Endgame executives will bring up maps of airports, parliament buildings, and corporate offices. The executives then create a list of the computers running inside the facilities, including what software the computers run, and a menu of attacks that could work against those particular systems.” For Brown, this raised the question of whether Endgame was selling these exploits to foreign actors and whether they would be used against computer systems in the United States. Shortly thereafter, the hammer came down.

The FBI acquired a warrant for Brown’s laptop, gaining the authority to seize any information related to HBGary, Endgame Systems, Anonymous and, most ominously, “email, email contacts, ‘chat’, instant messaging logs, photographs, and correspondence.” In other words, the FBI wanted his sources."

" Does the mysterious Endgame have any role in the ending of Hastings' game? Who knows? Like a good murder mystery there is more than one possibility as to who may have wanted Hastings dead. His reporting did, after all, take down a high ranking general. But, keep in mind that there is no direct public evidence that Hastings was even murdered. That may be, though, only because evidence is being destroyed. Hastings' body was cremated, even though this was not the desire of the family."

Whiskey said...

Steve, I don't think there are ANY cracks in the Obama coalition, and there is not KKKrazy Glue holding it together, but rather money.

The Pew Hispanic Trust noted in 2010 the median household net assets for Whites/Hispanics/Blacks was respectively, 113K/6K/5K. Roughly 90% of the students at Santa Ana Unified qualify for the free/reduced meal program, so much that the district got a waiver from the Feds to provide them to all students, no eligibility check required.

The hold for the Obama coalition is MONEY. Money. MONEY!

The Black/Hispanic underclass requires massive subsidies from the White middle and working class to survive.

But the Upper Class elites require lots of subsidies -- NPR, Amnesty International, government, the media (through indirect subsidies such as cheapo spectrum auctions) etc.

It is the old Hi-Lo Team Up as you noted, but to get the MONEY. Ultimately not sustainable but nearly every grifter in the universe has overestimated how much he can get before it collapses. See Bernie Madoff, Milken, etc.

Anonymous said...

Britain's disgusting Labour Party actually let slip publically it's avowedly immigrationist credentials.
Senior apparatchik Andrew Neather bragged about his party longed to 'rub Britain's nose in diversity' and thus ensure perpetual one-party Labour rule.

Last year France's weak and ineffectual president Hollande was elected by the muslim vote.

Don't think it too far-fetched, left parties, (or rather, immigrationist parties, as these days the really couldn't give a damn about workers), throughout the modern western world have evolved a symbiotic, (for want of a better term), relationship with thrird world immigrants - more brown bodies in return for perpetual and absolute power, which after all is all the professional politicians hanker for.

Whiskey said...

And yes, the first Anon's comment is quite on point. There are no White majority countries left anymore, because of massive immigration.

White women for example support this because it helps them grab more goodies for them along with immigrants.

And actresses Eva Longoria and Jessica Alba are good examples. They are mostly White, and horrified by it, and want "brown babies" to quote them.

Anonymous said...

Speaking for myself and my family:the idea of being in a political coalition with the asians-a demographic group that votes enthusiastically for Native Born White American race-replacement is repellant. Asian legal immigrants have been stealing jobs and wages from Native Born White American Engineers and other types of White American tech workers since 1972...Gruman Aerospace in Bethpage threw hundreds of White Male Engineers out of work while at the same time was hiring Asian foriegners...Northrup-Gruman motto these days:"WE are a Global Force of Global Good"..invade the world-invite the world. I see the asians as a very hostile highly racialized fifth column in competion with us for the scarce resouces in America. Go to the Skyline Highway in October...asians of all stripes all over the place with three to four kids. You will experience first hand extreme alienation of being a White Minority in America.
Well, Asians do have less babies than Hispanics to prevent Hispanics from being the largest group a little divide and conquer is needed between Hispanics and Asians. Filipinos, Koreans and Vietnamese sometimes compete against Hispanics for some service jobs.

Anonymous said...

More white conservative male wishful thinking.

People vote on economics first and foremost, that's always how it is unless in exceptional situations(like an imminent war).

Hispanics will never leave the coalition because what can Republicans offer them? Nothing.

Remember that stop and frisk policies affect hispanics too, but to a lesser extent. Most white hispanics are like Zimmerman, halfbreeds with either a WASP mother or father.

Hispanics with latino parentage on both sides do not identify as white and are usually poor.
Natural fodder for the democratic party.

Anonymous said...

There are a handful of Los Angeles suburbs in which this strategy has, without any conscious Machiavellian politicking, played out in the Republicans’ favor. For example, California’s 42nd congressional district is 36% Hispanic, 8% Asian, and only 46% white; some cities in this district, like Chino, are majority Hispanic. Yet this district has overwhelmingly voted Republican in most races for the past decade, even though its demographic reality should guarantee Democratic victories.

Or the 39th congressional district: 32% Hispanic, 28% Asian. It has gone to the Democrats in most major races in the recent past, but in 2012, the district voted in favor of Romney over Obama, 50/47.

The most striking case is the 22nd congressional district: 44% Hispanic. But look at all that red! Their current representative, Devin Nunes, is a Tea Party type who has called Obama a “wimp” for not allowing the military to use enhanced interrogation techniques.
This district probably still have more white votes since whites are still registered more and Hispanics are not. The demographics is sometimes tricky if you still have enough whites over 40 percent they will outvote the minorities. A mixed district which might be only 20 percent white in 20 years isn't always going to help. Also, in the city of Anaheim Hispanic and white liberals are pushing to vote district which does help the Democratic because they are heavily Hispanic areas near Disneyland, the current system is citywide which usually votes the white Republicans in Anaheim Hills.

Anonymous said...

"It would be a disaster for America if its low-IQ Hispanic population melded with its high-IQ white population."

This could not be more wrong. It would be far better than the alternative, which would mean only chaos and instability. It would mean stability and civilization as opposed to violence and disorder. It would elevate everyone. Nothing would be lost and everything would be gained.

Anonymous said...

The Pew Hispanic Trust noted in 2010 the median household net assets for Whites/Hispanics/Blacks was respectively, 113K/6K/5K. Roughly 90% of the students at Santa Ana Unified qualify for the free/reduced meal program, so much that the district got a waiver from the Feds to provide them to all students, no eligibility check required.
Good point , Whiskey you finally said something that is important. Loretta Sanchez who represents Santa Ana and the poor parts of Anaheim and Garden Grove wins while no Republican has made it since 1996 when Dornan ran.

Anonymous said...

"George Zimmerman is Hispanic!

This fact obviously renders all the "white racism" discussion moot and ridiculous."

Hey, close enough for government work.

Anonymous said...

Whiskey said:

There are no White majority countries left anymore

There are dozens, you ignorant fool.

Anonymous said...

"Steve, I don't think there are ANY cracks in the Obama coalition, and there is not KKKrazy Glue holding it together, but rather money."

KKKrazy glue is most effective in keeping white liberals in hysterical 'white guilt' mode.

But it is true... if white cons were to vanish into the thin air, the Dem coalition would break apart overnight. It is held together by the bogeyman of the common enemy.

Anonymous said...

"George Zimmerman is Hispanic!"

Presumably he got his evilness from his white father's side. Although another thing that has come out of this case is that Hispanics are still way lower than blacks under p.c. rules. They're still mostly in the background, unspoken of (as Steve notes) while blacks have been empowered up the wazoo.

Anonymous said...

There are no White majority countries left anymore

Uhh, lets see, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, the UK, Ireland, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Sweden, the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, and Italy, just off the top of my head are heavily majority white. Now the trend is going against that, but if immigration were restricted those countries would stay that way indefinitely. None of the Euro countries outside of France is as bad off in this regard as the US is.

carol said...

2). Why does anyone care what happens to the GOP.

If you walk away from a major party you will most surely be as marginalized and ridiculous as the Libertarians or the Communists.

Our system doesn't lend itself to UKIP-style incursions either.

gubbler of the church of reformed chechenism said...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/19/george-zimmerman-is-not-unique/

Liberalism is really a mental disease, or it turned into one.

Marcotte, the idiot who boasted of sleeping with a porn actor and pleaded for approval, is now calling Zimmerman a 'vile racist'.

This is mental derangement, pure and simple. They are as crazy as the Red Guards in the 60s.

Cuckoo bananas.

We need to end stop and frisk. These rich and safe liberals living in their comfort zones act so holier than thou. We should turn every big city into a Detroit or Sanford where crime is common.
Only then will libs change their tune.

And Republicans like Giuliani should no longer offer any help to big liberal cities. You make things nice for them and they just act high and mighty and holier than thou and dump on you.

I hope Marcotte's neighborhood fills up with the likes of Trayvon very fast.
I really can't stand these liberals.

pat said...

I used to be in Voluntary Health. I was the Executive Director of the San Francisco Epilepsy Society when I was in my twenties.

The job was to promote understanding of epilepsy. We didn't actually spend any money on research. We sought media air time and newspaper column inches.

So I sought out a 'poster child' for epilepsy. I looked for a sympathetic face. I found a good looking young guy with a decent background and I got him on the local news, the local papers and a national magazine.

He wasn't perfect but he was no Trayvon Martin.

It's hard to believe that Obama and the black establishment can be so stupid as to choose Martin as the 'poster boy' for being black.

There are many nasty rumors about Martin's background. I'll assume that they are all true.

He had been suspended from school three times. He was a drug user and/or seller. He was a burglar. He was a bully and a thug who beat up other men for fun.

This is the best they can do?

Apparently Martin was buying drug materials that night. The Watermelon Tea and Skittles are ingredients in some drug concoction called 'Lean' or 'Purple Drank'. He also seemed also to have bought a 'blunt' at that 7/11. This will all come out if the blacks continue to present him as their 'poster child'.

The Martin's apologist narrative doesn't hold up well under scrutiny. He didn't have a gun with him for his last fight but that doesn't mean he didn't have a gun. Zimmerman thought he looked like he might be 'casing' the apartment complex. We now know he had almost certainly had been a burglar or else where did he get all the stolen jewelry that was found on him?

Trayvon Martin is textbook example of every white person's worst fears about young black men. When I was young people still used the term "Credit to his race". Apparently that's the message now. When you think of Martin you are being encouraged to think of all blacks as being like him.

This is so stupid I'm dumbfounded.

Albertosaurus

jody said...

does anybody know if george zimmerman voted for obama in the november 2012 election?

LOL.

no amount of support for democrats or africans is enough when they turn their anger on you. as paula deen found out.

Truth said...

"There are many nasty rumors about Martin's background. I'll assume that they are all true."

I'd love to hear your assumptions about The other guy's rumors!

Cail Corishev said...

But it is true... if white cons were to vanish into the thin air, the Dem coalition would break apart overnight.

Eh, I wonder how long it would take them to notice. They already quaver in fear at a variety of right-wing bogeymen who don't exist: the gun-nut who wanders his neighborhood looking for minorities to blow away; the anti-abortion protester who secretly wants to force women to get married and have a dozen babies; the white-supremacist militia group (they still exist, but in laughably small numbers, most of whom are probably infiltrating FBI agents); or the anti-porn crusader who (while secretly having a library full of perversions at home) wants to make everyone watch reruns of Lawrence Welk and the Waltons all day.

Leftists don't need a common enemy to exist, as long as they control the media and can convince their followers that those enemies are out there.

news for Whiskey said...

Rudd dumps boat refuse on Papuans

Truth said...

"And actresses Eva Longoria and Jessica Alba are good examples. They are mostly White, and horrified by it, and want "brown babies" to quote them."

LOL, so is G-Zim! (assuming his mother is 1+% white) I guess they're all "White Hispanics

Anonymous said...

The Watermelon Tea and Skittles are ingredients in some drug concoction called 'Lean' or 'Purple Drank'

There was already a review of this--apparently Skittles are the one substance that can't be used for this purpose. That doesn't preclude Martin having misread the instructions however.

Jefferson said...

[QUOTE]Why don't Filipinos call themselves Hispanic anyway? They were a Spanish colony, most have Spanish names, most are Catholic, some could pass as mestizos. So what if they don't speak Spanish much?[/QUOTE]

Only 3 percent of Filipinos are Mestizo. The other 97 percent of Filipinos physically resemble other Southeast Asians like Indonesians, Thais, Viets, and Cambodians in the phenotype department.

Anonymous said...

This lays the next presidential in the lap of the Repubs. It's theirs to lose now.

I've spent an embarrassing amount of hours following comments about the verdict on mainstream sites. One interesting one is the Time Magazine comment section to Maya Angelou's comment on the verdict. If you read the entire 2000 comments you will see she pretty much get savaged. And she is one of Washington's untouchable icons.

What I have noticed is that many of the left leaning, Obama voting, regular white folk have had a wake up call. I'm not talking about The Bill Mayers, Chris Mathews insane left.

It has been easy up to this point for left/middle of the road whites to dismiss the HannityBeckLimbaugh Repubitainment talking points about the "Kenyan". Looks like there was more there then they thought.

I perceive a seismic shift taking place after this verdict. Your white Dem voter has seen that the Obama administration is not as advertised. The "Content of their Character" white voters are getting an eyeful of racial grudges that haven't been fading away.

boss of confusion said...

I'm confused. Obama says that when he was young, white folks were afeared of him and used to lock car doors.
But isn't that what liberals are saying about Zimmerman? That he should have stayed in the car and just driven away when he saw Trayvon Martin the black male?

Where's the logic here?

Obama: white folks shouldn't fear blacks and shouldn't lock their car doors in fear of black thugs as that is 'racist'.

Liberals: Zimmerman should have just remained in the car when a suspicious black guy was roaming around, and then, he wouldn't have gotten hurt.

Eh? It's damned if you do, damned if you don't.

If you stay in the car and lock the door and drive away, you is a 'racist'.
But if you step out of the car and walk the same street that the black guy is walking, you are again a 'racist'.

And liberal folks say Zimmerman racially profiled Martin, but they racially profile all of Florida and the entire white race(and even the brown race as the white race as Zimmerman is brown) over this trial and verdict. A sick world.

Reg C├Žsar said...

Dr van Nostrand,

The GOP didn't lose blacks in the '50s, they lost them in 1932, when the one black-dominated district in Congress, in Chicago, flipped. Because FDR bought them out.

Stevenson was very weak on black issues, yet he still got 60% of their vote.

White Southerners, though, spurned the middle-American war hero in greater numbers in favor of the Unitarian Yankee. Yellow dog syndrome makes one do funny things.

Ichabod Crane said...

"Have you ever tried to show some White Pride or Self-Respect in the presence of Hispanics."

The idea of showing 'white pride' isn't necessarily or definitionally mean-spirited, but in the real world,when someone goes around boasting of their White Pride, you can be sure they are the type who would also say things like:

"[Latinos] are the hissy-fittest people ALIVE. They aren't smart enough to actually do anything or argue...."

Anonymous said...

A nutty conspiracy theory.

Is MSM pushing zimmerman-is-white narrative to make American conservatives identify more with Hispanics, thereby becoming more willing to approve of amnesty?

Anonymous said...

Sailer thinks, in a peculiarly high school manner, that Asians and Hispanics will find Whites more fashionable than blacks and therefore align their politics with the more fashionable crowd. No base interests need be considered. This is absurd.

Jeff W. said...

When you write about Sean Trende, you should say, "Sean Trende, if that is his real name,..."

That's how Mickey Kaus has referred to him.

Anonymous said...

The republican politicians in power will take the money from billionaires and make sure they will be long retired by the time the amnestied illegals begin to affect the fortunes of the republican party.

Anonymous said...

If enough people walk away from a major party, it ceases to be a major party.

Anonymous said...

Please sign this petition to kill the amnesty bill.

http://killthebill.us/

FredR said...

"It's hard to believe that Obama and the black establishment can be so stupid as to choose Martin as the 'poster boy' for being black."

It's like that case in that book where they keep calling the black kid an "honor student."

Anonymous said...

Trende is "on the Right?" I never got that impression, though if not he's less likely to have been promoted through RCP than, say, some Josh Marshall site. Of course Nate Silver isn't really much of a leftist either; Democrats have been primed to expect support from his direction but--unlike Thomas B. Edsall or Ezra Klein--he merely accurately describes news, specifically the meta-news of polling, thus far to great success (imagine that).

Anonymous said...

"Is MSM pushing zimmerman-is-white narrative to make American conservatives identify more with Hispanics, thereby becoming more willing to approve of amnesty?"

I think the media were just so eager to crucify a GWD they didn't stop to check their facts - especially as the name doesn't exactly scream hispanic.

"Zimmerman."

"Jewish?"

"No."

"Run with it."

Anonymous said...

Black people are being cleansed from the citadels of the Democrat coalition in New York, LA and DC. That should tell you all you need to know.

Blacks are in the process of being thrown under the bus as the increasing numbers of asians and hispanics makes them less and less neccessary and by the same token makes channeling the ethnic spoils elsewhere more neccessary.

So (very) counter-intuitively white-black is the natural eventual voting alliance. It will take a lot of media polarizing to prevent it happening.

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Anonymous said...

You might think that the violent, mindless rage directed by Democrats at George Zimmerman as the face of white racism (despite his being Hispanic) might get Republicans pondering how to exploit the inherent cracks in the Obama Coalition.

Many Republicans seem to believe that the key to electoral success is redoubling their support of Israel and calls for more wars. Every other issue – immigration, affirmative action, gun control – is seen as a bargaining chip with which to garner Democratic support for Israel and the proposed war de jour. Trying to win on any issue other than a love of Israel and endless war is seen as “abandoning” Israel and therefore too “antisemitic” to even be discussed in polite company.

It is no coincidence that, every time the “maverick” John McCain sells out the Republicans on some issue, the Obama administration suddenly starts making noises about bombing Syria and/or Iran. Or that the Obama administration and the media start rehabilitating George W. Bush's militarism shortly before he parrots the Democratic Party line on some issue. It is, after all, the Obama administration and the media – and not working-class Whites – that will determine whether the US bombs Iran and how Bush's wars are remembered.

Steve Sailer said...

A white-black coalition got Jim Hahn elected mayor of L.A. in 2001 over Villaraigosa, but then broke down in 2005 because Hahn hired Bill Bratton instead of rehiring the black police chief.

Anonymous said...

"A white-black coalition..."

In reality there's a million and one things that will prevent it happening even without relentless media polarizing but the political logic is there - or will increasingly be there over time.

Anonymous said...

"
This could not be more wrong. It would be far better than the alternative, which would mean only chaos and instability. It would mean stability and civilization as opposed to violence and disorder. It would elevate everyone. Nothing would be lost and everything would be gained. "

It's like you missed out on HBD.

IQ points would be lost, a significant number of IQ points, as the mental characteristics of the two populations converged.

America would become like a giant Uruguay or something.

Anonymous said...

Nothing wrong with being like Uruguay, a nation noted for peace, relative prosperity, high levels of education, and stability.

Better Uruguay than South Africa.

Anonymous said...

Steve:

It wouldn't be completely accurate to describe Hahn's coalition as "white/black". Blacks and Valley whites voted for Hahn. Villaraigosa got the votes of Jews, Westside whites, those whites remaining in Central LA, and liberal whites (not mutually exclusive groups) in addition to Latino and Asians.

2Degrees said...

Anonymous said...

Nothing wrong with being like Uruguay, a nation noted for peace, relative prosperity, high levels of education, and stability.

Better Uruguay than South Africa.

7/19/13, 9:34 PM

Well sure, Bangladesh is relatively richer than Burkina Faso, but it still a giant heap of ordure. Uruguay's per capita GNP is 3.5 times smaller than America's. Latin American cities are also the world's most violent by a mile. And if Argentinians and Uruguayans are so well educated, why are they not at the forefront of scientific education. Mixing it up with Latinos is a really bad idea.

Anonymous said...

"And if Argentinians and Uruguayans are so well educated, why are they not at the forefront of scientific education."

Compare Italian-Americans in the US who came under Wasp-rule and Italian-Argentinians who came under Spanish rule(and then even took over the country).

Which set of Italian-Americans did better?
On the other hand, what was the extent of the mafia like in Argentina? Could the mafia have been more powerful in the US cuz US was richer and there was more to rob and also because wasp rule of law guaranteed lots of protections even to thugs? In contrast, Argentina went through many yrs of military rule, and military gangsters may have been more effective against organized criminal gangsters, in the way that Mussolini was the most effective force against organized crime in Italy(and Americans brought it back with democracy in Italy).

Btw, Pinker's BLANK SLATE has the usual bitching about how wasps used to rule everything in the late 19th and early 20th century, and he applauds the rise of non-whites and Jews in American life. But could Jews and others have risen much if not for the groundwork, rule of law, and principles laid down by wasp folks? Pinker bitches about how women used to be oppressed by wasps, but in the context of the past, weren't women in wasp world more liberated and advanced than in any other?
Suppose Jews had emigrated to Africa, Asia, Middle East, or Latin America than to wasp built America. Could they have done as much?

ben tillman said...

Suppose Jews had emigrated to Africa, Asia, Middle East, or Latin America than to wasp built America. Could they have done as much?

Jews did emigrate to most of those places, and they were instrumental in the creation of the mixed-race "nations" of Brasil and Mexico.

Mr. Anon said...

Good article, Steve. Those last two paragraphs are excellent advice for the Republican Party. They, of course, won't take it.

Mr. Anon said...

"Truth said...

""There are many nasty rumors about Martin's background. I'll assume that they are all true.""

I'd love to hear your assumptions about The other guy's rumors!"

The article you linked to was from a year ago. So.....what has happened to those allegations since then? Haven't heard a thing about them recently. It isn't hard to procure smears like that. You don't think the State of Florida, which was all to happy to try him for murder, wouldn't pile on child abuse charges too, if they thought they could prove them?

You got nothin'. Zimmerman is an innocent man, as far as the law is concerned - and quite possibly as far as God is concerned. Little Trayvon remains a dead thug.

Mr. Anon said...

"pat said...

It's hard to believe that Obama and the black establishment can be so stupid as to choose Martin as the 'poster boy' for being black."

The black establishment was willing to make Rodney King their poster-boy for blackness. They were even willing to make Willie Horton a poster-boy for blackness. They have no discernment, nor any shame. However - one does have to concede - it seems to work for them.

Anonymous said...

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/nationworld/la-sp-sn-charles-barkley-george-zimmerman-verdict-20130719,0,4634082.story

Silver said...

"There are dozens [of white majority countries], you ignorant fool."

It's good that Whiskey posts here. People get to see what a relentless anti-white troll posing as a pro-white ally looks like. That he's also rather doltish adds some entertainment value to the exercise.

Truth said...

"You don't think the State of Florida, which was all to happy to try him for murder, wouldn't pile on child abuse charges too, if they thought they could prove them?"

HIS COUSIN (!) Never filed charges, HIS COUSIN (!) Just wanted it known by the world that she thought HER COUSIN (!) was a liar and a piece of Scheiss.