August 17, 2013

Anybody know what all the ex-Sovs are doing in L.A.?

From the WSJ:
Mall Owners Woo Hispanic Shoppers

By MIRIAM JORDAN CONNECT 
PANORAMA CITY, Calif.—On a recent Sunday, Spanish-speaking families swarmed the Panorama Mall here in the outskirts of Los Angeles for an afternoon of Latino entertainment. 
"We come for the mariachi, then we eat something and go shopping," said Gloria Mesina, visiting the mall with her daughter, Viviana, and her granddaughter, Brisa. 
That is music to the ears of José Legaspi, a real-estate broker who joined forces with the mall's owner, Macerich Co., MAC -2.17% to revitalize the shopping center by targeting Hispanics. 
The partners are among an emerging crop of commercial-property investors responding to the same demographic reality that has rocked the political landscape: the rise of Hispanics. 
Hispanics accounted for more than half the population growth between 2000 and 2011; Latinas have more children than non-Hispanics; Hispanic households that earn $50,000 or more are rising at a faster clip than total U.S. households. Their households outspend other groups on beauty products *, food and apparel, according to Nielsen Co.

* Not getting much for their money, apparently.

This Panorama City mall in the WSJ article has been a largely Mexican dump for decades.

But the weather is nice in Panorama City in the middle of the San Fernando Valley (last couple of weeks, the August highs have been mostly in the 80s with low humidity), so my guess is that in the very long run, Panorama City won't stay Mexican.

Filipinos (who work in huge numbers at the Kaiser Permanente medical center in Panorama City, where my late father was a patient), Armenians in Valley Village to the South (who put up those amazingly hostile security fences topped by lethal finials), and other ex-Soviets are likely to push Mexicans out of the middle of the San Fernando Valley. 

Nobody talks much about ex-Soviet Bloc immigrants, but they aren't scared of Mexicans. 

Nobody even seems to know what the ex-Soviet newcomers are doing in the San Fernando Valley. A dumpy 2-bedroom apartment in Valley Village costs about $1700 per month rent, so they must be making money somehow, but the L.A. Times doesn't cover the question and the ex-Sovs aren't the kind to volunteer information.

My nephew from small town Illinois was staying with us for a few months. He played soccer once a week with a Mexican team and twice a week with a Russian team. The Mexicans were friendly (they called him "Hollywood" because he's the kind of blonde, squared-jawed lad that used to be common in Los Angeles back when Robert Redford and Don Drysdale were baseball teammates at Van Nuys H.S. just down Van Nuys Blvd. from Panorama City.) 

The Russians, in contrast, were foreboding and stand-offish. They called him "Red Pants" because he wore red gym shorts, and that's about as far as their concern for any non-Russian went. I kept asking him what all these Russians do for a living, but they never gave him a clue. Overall, I think that was for the best. I told him if the Russians ever suddenly turned friendly and asked him to give them a ride while they ran into the bank ("Keep motor running, Red Pants!"), don't do it.

I've theorized that a lot of these ex-Sovs are the boyfriends / "managers" of pretty Eastern European girls who are trying to be actress / model / whatevers in Hollywood. But that's pure speculation on my part. The Russians are not talking and nobody is asking. I suspect we don't want to know.

Where the Los Angeles Mexicans will go is an unanswered question (a neighborhood near you, probably). But I suspect in the long run LA won't look like it does in Elysium. There are too many peoples in this world more formidable than Mexicans to let Mexicans have this superb climate. If Americans don't want California enough to keep it, lots of others folks will.

153 comments:

Anonymous said...

"Not getting much for their money, apparently."

That's beneath you, Steve.

I live in L.A., and I see as many or more hotties out walking around when I go to Latino areas like Highland Park than I do in most neighborhoods. The average Latin American woman, and yes that includes heavily Indian Mestizos, is prettier and more feminine than the average American land whale, hands down.

Anonymous said...

What are you proposing Steve, some sort of dog-eat-dog contest in which the toughest, hardest and wiliest from all corners of the earth duke it out for the posession of S. California?

Just who will get first dibbings to dick the fair maiden?

Reminiscent of a battle-royal cockfight, tales from ancient history or those wonderful nerd-based computer games in which mythical olde worlde kingdoms fight it out in the virtual world thus leaving the bespectacled and degenerated thousandth generation descendants of warriors with a non-porn thrill.

And why the consistent and peristant non-rating of Mexicans in any of the manly spheres of life whether intellectual, physical or entertainment?
From what I've seen they are rather hand with a chain-saw and pretty ruthless with it, too boot.

Aloysius said...

OT: Over at Audio Asylum, regular contributors are outraged because someone at Stereophile noticed that blacks and latinos are not into HIFI like whites and asians, and that young asians seem better educated about music than peope of color in the US. Burn him!

http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/vt.mpl?f=general&m=656971

Anonymous said...

I meet a lot of ex Sovs here in North Jersey, too. A crew at the local garden center loading mulch bags into my car; the new window crew we contracted with HOme Depot; nurses at the hospital and home health care; muggascan tech at the hospital; fellow patients aplenty are ex Sov; my neighbor; my former co-worker's neighbor. They are every where here.

Perspective said...

Are there enough immigrants coming from former Soviet countries to impact the demographics of the valley in the long term though? I was just checking annual immigration flows to the US by country, and a very small amount are coming from the former USSR countries these days.
I'm not overly familiar with the SF Valley (only been to the tourist areas), but could other immigrant groups such as Indians, Bangladeshis or even east Africans ever come to dominate this area?
The climate is gorgeous and reminded me of the type of climate experienced in Israel and many other parts of the ME. Perhaps Arabs (including Israelis) could turn this area from a predominantly Hispanic area to one that is Arabesque, especially with increasing amounts of Arab refugees?

Anonymous said...

Lots of ed soviets own businesses in the valley

Watkin Jones II said...

The American Californians had it too easy. Great weather, plentiful opportunities, the strongest military in the world, etc.- it turns you into mushy-headed peace proclaiming Eloi. A few generations of that and the Mexicans have started to turn into Eloi too. Of course, if things are going downhill for the country as a whole and the utopia is no longer there, then all bets are off for the newcomer Armenians and Russians as to whether they will too.

Anonymous said...

"But I suspect in the long run LA won't look like it does in Elysium."

Even Mexico doesn't look like Elysium, and there are improving areas south of the border. Blom grafted his memory of Africa onto Mexico. Unfair.

Anonymous said...

If Americans don't want California enough to keep it, lots of others folks will.


"Americans", properly understood, don't have much say in the matter. The biggest enemy of the American people is the American government, which in my lifetime has worked feverishly to dispossess Americans of their birthright.

Anonymous said...

And their ethnicity?

Is it the same as the 'Russian' mafia?

Anonymous said...

I always find it interesting, the way you love to conflate stereotype and ethnic solidarity as, let's face it, its own Conspiracy. But only on the street-level.

If anyone extends this sort of pattern-recognition to Global Elites you back away as quickly as possible, reminding us all that Elites are just Fools that don't understand their own destructive policies (all they need to do is read Steve Sailer, natch). Any and all that do see a conspiracy at this level are either accused of "anti-semitism" or apophenia...often both, and often by you.

Who-whom, indeed.

It's all so clearly calculated. But a day late, and a dollar short on your part. Any day now, HBD will catch on with these people and you'll be able to come in from the cold, right? Unlike issues such as the Global Usury, which you have no attachment to one way or the other, your attachment to HBD/an atheistic worldview is your religion, and thus you can't hide it, even to save your career.

There's something very funny about tha. Like a Norman Mailer atheist joke, maybe.

Anonymous said...

You tell us, you live there (in the SoCal region)

Or is the essay simply a politely coded word for "Russian Maffia"?

Jorn said...

shouldn't we have heard of a "pretty Eastern European girl" or two by now?

Bugg said...

If the Russians are anything like those who have taken over Brighton Beach in Brooklyn, perhaps they support themselves by other means- http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/swanky_scammers_l2nCTPj0AniceUCCiHJuUN

Anonymous said...

The category of ex-Soviets is even less informative than that of Hispanics. This is because there was always far less intermarriage in the Rssian Empire/Soviet Union than in Latin America. Both in tsarist and Soviet times most of the various peoples of the empire maintained their own ancient ethnic homelands. So the languages, cultures and genetic makeups remained relatively distinct, far more distinct than anywhere in the Americas. There was some movement away from that setup under Yeltsin, with Moscow going from being overwhelmingly Russian in 1990 to having a large Central Asian community today, but in general the ex-Soviet space is not culturally, attitudinally, linguistically or genetically homogeous. Historically it's never resembled an ethnic salad. The culture of the capital did not drown out peripheral ones.

To give a random example, Ramzan Kadyrov whom Steve has profiled here speaks Russian with a heavy Chechen accent. And he's the pro-Russian guy there.

Anonymous said...

Where will the Mexicans go? The Inland Empire for sure, and north toward Lancaster. Hopefully not into Ventura County. Already plenty of them in Oxnard and Ventura, but with the ever better weather there those areas may change to Asian too.

Immigrant form former USSR said...

I personally know one ex-Sov in Irvine. He has master degree from Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology (MFTI in Dolgoprudnyi),
Ph.D. in Quantum Chemistry from U. of Utah, Salt Lake City, and works now at some R&D company around Irvine.
For Steve's information: he is (1/4) genetically Jewish, (3/4) genetically Russian; no religious affiliation.

Anonymous said...

To be a little clearer: there's not much of an ex-Soviet quality in ex-Soviet peoples. There's more of it than there is of the ex-British quality in Indians, Burmese, Nigerians and Fijians, but not much more. They are distinct peoples with distinct cultures and attitudes.

Anonymous said...

Why do these ex-Soviets get to live in America?

You lost the cold war. Fix your own country and stay out of here.

But of course the scum who run America let them in.

Anonymous said...

"* Not getting much for their money, apparently." This is a crude lowbrow comment to make.

Anonymous said...

Steve, "red pants" phrase comes from a famous russian comedy of 80ies. Color of pants was a mark of distinction of a ruling class. And you should be paying respect to these guys kneeling a certain number of times depending on the color, 2 times - for yellow pants, 3 times - for red pants: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZqNtkh5mAg

Kind of "Ideocracy" movie, made by a brilliant russian director, to show a communistic russian future (as opposed to capitalistic in "Ideocracy").
So, most likely "red pants" is just a nick name used by those russians and not a bad one.


As for what russians do in LA: I personally know 3 russian guys there: 1st - head of IT department, 2nd - VP for development of a social-network startup, 3rd - Masters degree in computer sciences, some senior IT infrastructure guy. Same tendency - in NYC. Another common trait for them: they do not lock them in russian communities, talk to russians only etc.


However, this cannot be applied to Brighton Beach. A lot of russians are ashamed of that place and do their best to never show up there.

Auntie Analogue said...


Wait until our genius global social engineers at the State Department get going on importing large numbers of now coup-persecuted Moslem Brotherhood Egyptians and resettling them in U.S. locales in homogenous masses.

Anonymous said...

I'm gonna take a wild guess they'll mostly be too scary to ask.

Anonymous said...

What are you proposing Steve, some sort of dog-eat-dog contest in which the toughest, hardest and wiliest from all corners of the earth duke it out for the posession of S. California?

Thats what open borders libertarians and liberals seem to want.

I would prefer to white Americans to take control of the situation and turf out the undesireables.

Jim Bowery said...

Quothe Sailer: "If Americans don't want California enough to keep it"

Americans care about keeping their honor -- that is to say keeping their moral territory. Since keeping moral territory has been successfully identified, by their "betters", with Americans giving up physical territory, they give up physical territory.

David Davenport said...

Wonder if the timing of Mr. Musk's windowless train-in-a-pipeline proposal had anything to do with this?

Court rules California bypassed requirements for bullet-train process

Officials failed to comply with funding and environmental reviews set in the 2008 ballot measure, the judge says in a ruling over a lawsuit aimed at stopping the project.


By Ralph Vartabedian
August 16, 2013, 10:02 p.m.

A Sacramento Superior Court judge delivered a major rebuke to the California bullet train project Friday, ruling that the state failed to comply with requirements on funding and environmental reviews imposed by voters.

In a closely watched case, Judge Michael P. Kenny stopped short of immediately shutting down the project or ruling that the Legislature made illegal appropriations. But he scheduled a future hearing on how the violations of state law can be remedied.


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Anonymous said...

"Not getting much for their money, apparently."

First of all, Latin women are hot. Second, if you have kids with them your kids are eligible for affirmative action. Win-win!

The Anti-Gnostic said...

The average Latin American woman, and yes that includes heavily Indian Mestizos, is prettier and more feminine than the average American land whale, hands down.

Yeah, until they turn 15.

eah said...

The government pushes propaganda and policies that undermine the very concept of a nation, so no wonder growing numbers of Americans are jettisoning any feeling of duty toward their homeland like so much gassy ballast. Social atomization and the sheer massive scale of a bloated 300+ million population of competing races, ethnicities, behaviors, and temperaments herded like cats under ever-tightening rules and regulations and surveillance drones doomed to fail are splintering hard-earned loyalty and severing bonhomie.

Anonymous said...

"You lost the cold war. Fix your own country and stay out of here.
But of course the scum who run America let them in."

'American' elites helped post-Soviet oligarchs to rape and loot the entire country.

Anonymous said...

If the Russians are anything like those who have taken over Brighton Beach in Brooklyn

FYI: The Russians in Brighton Beach are ethnically about as Russian as the residents of Borough Park.

As an ex-Sov, my 0.02 ruble:

Of course you guys made mistake admitting so many of us. Even those of us who have reasonably high IQ and education from USSR's elite schools only compete with Americans for the jobs and most definitely contributed to the wage depression in STEM fields. To be honest, I am quite sure that you would be just fine even without, say, Sergei Brin.

That said, at least we are not as much a problem as Indians or Chinese. Our culture is not THAT different and we assimilate much faster than Asians. E.g., take Steve Hsu. The guy was born in Iowa, got everything he has from America. Yet he is full of pride over his co-ethnics' recent achievements and may even care more about Chinese than white Americans.

Mountain Maven said...

Lots of Russians moving into silicon valley. In my experience, very difficult to do business with as are most immigrants from Asia, except the Indians. Different morals. Lots of jewish russians too. Almost all are highly educated.

Mountain Maven said...

May be hotties in LA, but in nocal most are pushing strollers and outweigh me.

jody said...

in the near term, other groups can push out the latin americans in US border states, if they show up in numbers. in the longer term, those other groups won't be around to push them out, and the latin americans fill the available space.

only russians have above replacement fertility, all the other former soviet groups are below. i don't think latin americans have anything to worry about when it comes to eastern europeans showing up in LA. it's not a long term trend with big demographic numbers.

Anonymous said...

""* Not getting much for their money, apparently." This is a crude lowbrow comment to make."

Part of Steve is that he is an embittered old white man who likes denigrating some minorities to feel superior.

Anonymous said...

My son, a white American who lives in LA, is trying to buy a house. He says all the real estate is being bought up very quickly by Chinese from China. He says they literally bring suitcases of cash. He says that white Americans are being pushed out, as blacks were before, and pretty soon it will be all Asian and Mexican.

Anonymous said...

Russians are scary people for sure.
Tom Wolfe had some Russian gangsters in Back to Blood.

In the longterm, I'd agree that a lot of the real estate in Los Angeles is just too valuable to stay in the hands of Mexicans. Russians and other former Soviets (especially of Jewish ancestry), Armenians, and Persians all seem formidable and very sharp elbowed.

jody said...

i think the idea in elysium is that:

1) all the fossil fuels are gone. no more oil, anywhere, ever. no more natural gas. maybe there is some coal left, maybe not. that's possible, or not, depending on the burn rate.

so society, for the average person, gets a lot worse in that scenario. you'll notice that when the camera pans over the endless sprawl of LA, some sectors of the power grid are completely out. there are alternatives to fossil fuels for power - but they aren't good, for the average person. our modern, 1000 watts per day suburban houses and 2 gallons of gasoline per day vehicle usage, goes away.

also not much mining for iron, copper, silver, gold, uranium anymore, all those mines were dug out completely 50 years ago. that takes away stuff like south africa which is predicated on mineral bounty, so south africa goes away. canada and australia are still first world nations, but not rich wealthy nations anymore, as their mineral bounty days are also long over.

2) there's few smart people left. it's mostly third world rabble as they're the only people remaining who actually have reproductive sex.

"Even Mexico doesn't look like Elysium"

well, some of it does. and some of brazil does too. but remember that the good parts of 2013 mexico and 2013 brazil are what they look like WITH oil, with NO robots, and WITH an upper class of europeans running things.

what happens when none of those are true.

1) in the real world of 2013, mexico's oil production steadily declines - the state relies heavily on it to finance the country. in a few decades that revenue stream will be gone. things get...interesting for mexico when the money dries up.

brazil might potentially have more oil than mexico, but it's expensive, offshore, undeveloped oil. that's 150 dollar a barrel oil, so when it does come to market as gasoline and diesel, it won't be cheap. at that price, it can't really be used for economic growth, only to keep things moving. brazil is also a bigger nation than mexico and growing even faster than mexico. it will cross the 200 million people mark before 2020. it can't supply its own oil demand and has less oil per capita. and of course like all oil fields, brazilian deep water oil will all be gone by 2100.

2) good robots replace IQ 87 people in lots of menial jobs (or whatever the mean IQ of the mexican and brazilian underclass is). what do those people do for jobs? are they just idle? idle IQ 87 people are chaos creators. mexico and brazil don't have the massive economy to fund a welfare state like the US does, so they can't afford to pay tens of millions of people to just sit around and watch television (the US won't be able to afford this either in a few decades).

today, an international company like ford might build a new manufacturing plant in mexico or brazil, to take advantage of 8 dollar an hour mexican or brazilian semi-skilled labor. with good robots, those factories are no longer in mexico or brazil, because why would they be? you don't need 8 dollar an hour mexican or brazilian labor anymore. swiss companies like ABB are building robots right now, which will make all those latin american production factories a thing of the past in a few decades.

3) a much weaker, or non-existent, upper class of european rulers to nominally control and guide the nation's companies and government means the nation reverts to crap. so, slowly but steadily, over decades you could have mexico or brazil economically revert into something more like guatemala, peru, or colombia, as the leadership at their companies and central goverments crumble. first world nations can, sort of, weather the decline of the fossil fuel era, but third world nations cannot. all their means of production will go away.

Anonymous said...

There are a lot of Russian hookers/escorts/mistresses in the NYC area. They claim to be students or part-time models, but service a lot of the finance crowd and celebrities. Prostitution, especially serving wealthy and famous men, is a very lucrative business.

Just the type of business I could see Russians making a killing in. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these Russian mafioso are servicing a lot of Hollywood execs and actors, supplying them with both women and drugs........ and that probably gives the Russians a lot of blackmail power too.

Anonymous said...

My nephews tells me there are a lot of Russians in the Ozarks Mountains in southern Missouri. He says they pretty much keep to themselves. He figures they're dealing drugs.

geoff said...

"not getting much for their money"

those of u outside la don't know how spot on steve is

for every jennifer lopez there are 10,000 square-torsoed hispanic chicks, all wearing animal print spandex that doesn't conceal the muffin top

Anonymous said...

I don't see the SF Valley as particularly desirable, especially in terms of climate, when compared to the rest of southern California. It gets freaking HOT there. And cold.

I also don't see Hispanics being displaced in any of the neighborhoods in which they've established themselves. Unlike Black neighborhoods that either stay stagnant or worse, allowing organic displacement and gentrification more feasible, Hispanics develop their neighborhoods into pedestrian dense small business districts.

Brazilian said...

Eastern Europeans will save th White race!

bleach said...

" The average Latin American woman, and yes that includes heavily Indian Mestizos, is prettier and more feminine than the average American land whale, hands down."

Steve's commnt was low but this one isn't?

Mexico is #1 in the world in obesity rate. Whoops!

Anonymous said...

Amnesty is Amnesia. It should be called Amnesiasty.
Did Reagan's amnesty fix the problem of illegal immigration? No, it only opened the floodgates.

Fool me once, fool me...

Anti-Democracy Activist said...

This seems to be a prime example of "data" not being the plural of "anecdote". Okay, so there are a bunch of Russians in some parts of LA. There are a lot of Russians in Brighton Beach and Outer Sunset, too, but that doesn't mean the Russians are about to take over New York or San Francisco. The Russians may have made an impression on you, but their numbers are too small to seriously affect demographic trends.

Besides, as things get progressively better in Russia and progressively worse in America, that particular line of immigration will dry up. The way things are going, before long only the worst of the Third-World poor will still want to come here.

Sgt. Joe Friday said...

"Hispanic households that earn $50,000 or more are rising at a faster clip than total U.S. households."

Sure. Easy to have a $50K household income when there are 4 people all earning minimum wage.

"Their households outspend other groups on beauty products *, food and apparel."

Yup, more people per household = more spending on food and clothing. Duh.

Beauty products? I believe it. Most Latin women I've known, even the plain ones, are very vain about their looks.

anony-mouse said...

Californians kept bragging about the weather.

Californians kept singing songs about how great California was with an emphasis on the climate (e.g. Beach Boys)

People from the largest country in the world (with a terrible climate) heard about this.

Apparently the results of all this is suspicious. Not really.

David said...

I agree with the commenter who said that Mexico isn't like "Elysium." I've lived in Mexico City and Querétaro. Most Mexicans would shrug at "Elysium" as just another cheap sci-fi pic, good actioner but an unreal nightmare. It has more to do with Blo's African/gringo psychotrauma than Mexico, the essence of which is indefeasible mediocrity or (depending on viewpoint) pleasing laid-backness and traditional living.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Elysium I think is more a vision of the city of Anaheim, the dumb white politicians want to built 14 new hotels and while I know Disneyland gets tourist there are other dumb OC cities wanting to built new hotels, this means more maid jobs and ground keeping jobs and low level cook jobs. The city already is now probably around 53 to 54 percent Hispanic and has a problem with white flight. Its politicians want to make it Santa Ana the second but who would visit Disneyland if the gangs increase around it.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, there are more Russians in mainly La, but some in OC, the Inland Empire and San Diego.

Anonymous said...

I used to live in the middle swath of the San Fernando Valley (a sliver of Northridge that dangles down into Van Nuys) and the reason why it turned into slums while the north and south ends of the Valley have gone upscale is that the housing stock is largely pretty terrible.

Those postwar houses, like the two-story stucco apartment complexes that collapses en masse in 1994, were slapped up in a hurry and are now falling apart. Some of them are literally just drywall and staples in places. So they either fall into disrepair and end up subdivided, or they're total teardowns like the ones between the 101 and Ventura that have mostly been turned into fake Tuscans or Persian palaces.

But white hipsters and Armenians are slowly pushing the Mexicans out of Highland Park and even the formerly notorious Glassell Park, so I suppose anything's possible.

Anonymous said...

"I live in L.A., and I see as many or more hotties out walking around when I go to Latino areas like Highland Park than I do in most neighborhoods. The average Latin American woman, and yes that includes heavily Indian Mestizos, is prettier and more feminine than the average American land whale, hands down"

You need your eyes adjusted. Whenever I'm in California, I notice that virtually no Mexican women are hot. They are almost all overweight, with those terrible barrel shaped torsos and homely faces.

East Coast Hispanics are much better looking.

Anonymous said...

Just returned from a week in NYC. Stayed in midtown Manhattan. The third most common language I heard spoken on the street was Russian. When I took the 7th Ave subway, the touch screens for the ticket dispensers offered instructions in,

1. English
2. Spanish
3. Russian
4. Korean

Easily half of the whites I saw on the street were speaking Russian. Some were in family groups so could be tourists but I also saw Russian women pushing baby carriages while chatting on cell phones and Russian men in business suits conversing. They looked like they lived or worked in the city. The next largest white group were the Orthodox Jews who work on 47th.

Anonymous said...

My experience is that Slavics work behind the scenes repairing things like furnaces or in medical positions. Their children are indistinguishable from other white people so you do not notice them.

My favorite Ukranian American
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Serin

Sadly the brilliant Caseypedia is no more. But there seems to be some bits at archive.org

Anonymous said...

681Yeah, California Latinas aren't that great on the eyes, on average.

In contrast, the hottest women I have seen en masse in the US are 1) the Latinas in Miami, and 2) the white chicks in San Diego.

I was in Costa Rica about 10 years ago, and the young women there looked like they were ripped from the pages of comic books: big bosoms in tight t-shirts, slender bared midriffs, and flared hips poured into tight jeans. Most of them looked like they have very little Amerindian blood.

Anonymous said...

"If Americans don't want California enough to keep it, lots of other folks will".


Gosh, Mr Sailer, you make it sound as if ordinary Americans were ACTUALLY allowed to vote on the 1965 immigration act that doomed them, or that there was a national referendum on it. Or the 1986 amnesty too for that matter.

By the way, a bit off-topic, but it seems to keep coming up on your threads from various posters; America "won" the cold war. NOT SO! The Soviet Union lost by default, as it simply imploded. That is a big difference.

Anonymous said...

"Even Mexico doesn't look like Elysium...."

I thought that he filmed the dystopian future-LA scenes in Mexico City.

Anonymous said...

The average Latin American woman, and yes that includes heavily Indian Mestizos, is prettier and more feminine than the average American land whale, hands down.

Yeah, until they turn 15.


Wow, what a creep.

Foreign Expert said...

Steve, you been following the Australian immigration debate?

Anonymous said...

Where will all the LA Mexicans go? They can go back to Mexico. Mexico is a wonderful country filled with nice people.

Anonymous said...

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Alice said...

Here on twin cities Mn, the ex Soviets are massively into retail credit card fraud. To the tune of billions. The higher end folks are ex mathematicians or Cs types who write software for companies who strangely enough handle retail clients.

Anonymous said...

It seems like Steve's comment section has become infested with a couple of SWPL trolls.

Anonymous said...

""* Not getting much for their money, apparently." This is a crude lowbrow comment to make."

A real useless idiocracy is trying to tell males their primitive male brain is lying to them about the evaluation of such basic things, things that don't even require thought.

"Whatever you do, don't believe your lying eyes!" Lie to act as if the world is other than it is. That only really works in the lies you can keep telling yourself.

Have you noticed the number of average Californian Amerindian hispanic female types that Hollywood has made super stars?

Alden said...

"* Not getting much for their money, apparently."

This is on the money. I see a lot of Latina women who look like they spent the last two hours and two hundred dollars putting their look together... along with some trashy exposed tattoos and at least 20 pounds overweight.

Gotta respect that they're trying. That's better than the average American woman most of the time. But I think they're trying as a form of intra-female competition, as pushing away from the table would go a lot further than an hour in front of the mirror if they wanted male attention.

Ed Cefala Jr said...

How it is now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(party_game)

Anonymous said...

Two thirds of Hispanic girls in the SF Bay Area have a pot belly by age six. I just don't see how median life span is not going to plummet in 25 years.

Anonymous said...

This weepy article on a black, brain damaged, former South L.A. student struggling at UC Berkeley is a must read. It seems to be a Frankenstein's Monster of Sailerian themes joined together for a monstrous whole. Please, I beg of you, goof on this for the lulz!

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-c1-cal-freshmen-20130816-dto,0,4673807.htmlstory

Thank you, Lex Puppy.

Peter the Shark said...

Most of the people Steve is talking about are not Russian - they are Ukrainians, Jews, Armenians, Chechens, Kazakhs and Tatars. But hey, the Americans decided the Russian (aka "Soviet") Empire was evil and needed to be destroyed. It is only justice that America now gets to take in all the "subject peoples" who are realizing life isn't so great in the post-Soviet Eurasia the US helped create.

Anonymous said...

For what it's worth, I live in the hollywood hills, and we started getting crazy burglaries. One night I saw a couple of guys standing outside an apartment building, and I thought, "I know those types from NYC! Those are eurotrash ruskies!"

In NYC, they used to hustle three card monte games in Times Square (Dinkens Era). Always the same army of idiots.

I knew they didn't belong there at 10 PM. They were real greasers. They were scoping something out, so I called the police on my cell as I was driving away, and reported them. Don't know what happened in that instance.

However, about a month later, the LAPD busted a Ruskie burglary ring that was doing their business in... the hollywood hills!

Dunno what they're up to these days. Haven't seen them around my parts as of late.

Anonymous said...

http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2013/08/17/germans-desperate-to-reverse-plummeting-birth-rate/

Anonymous said...

Did a quick search regarding Russian burglars in the HH, and apparently, they're still around!

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/burglars-robbing-homes-in-hollywood-hills-make-off-with-millions-in-jewels/1d2b6felm

My experience was with them about 5 years earlier.

Anonymous said...

"The average Latin American woman, and yes that includes heavily Indian Mestizos, is prettier and more feminine than the average American land whale, hands down."

Easily.

And that's why white American men don't want white American women.

Anonymous said...

Ultimately, the only reconquista will be the Chinese one.

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous" Said:

This weepy article on a black, brain damaged, former South L.A. student struggling at UC Berkeley is a must read. It seems to be a Frankenstein's Monster of Sailerian themes joined together for a monstrous whole. Please, I beg of you, goof on this for the lulz!

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-c1-cal-freshmen-20130816-dto,0,4673807.htmlstory
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Nice job, "anonymous." You laid the smack-down on Ircle.

Trolly said...

You are just hoping someone besides Mexicans take over S. California. But if that were true, wouldn't the Russians or whoever have already taken over Tijuana? Or some other beautiful place along the Mexican coast?

Nah, not likely. And S. California is nice but it isn't that nice. I don't know how a few Russians (or anyone else) could get rid of the Mexicans there now.

I do agree that the world is about to discover that the Anglo-Saxon type White who used to run much of the White world was a LOT nicer than the Whites who will be prominent in the future. For example, Southern Whites really wanted everyone to like them and wanted to be thought of as gracious. I don't get that vibe from Russian.

Anonymous said...

Read the article about the struggling black student - LOLZ.

Things I learned from the article:


-Black people "overcome obstacles" the way you and me change our clothes. (Most of us change our clothes two or three times a day.)

-Nothing is *ever* easy for black people. (Ever.)

-Light-skinned blacks, for some reason, have a lot less trouble academically than dark-skinned blacks. (Was I even supposed to notice this?)

-And, uhh ... everybody's the same. And trying is just as good as succeeding. (At least if your name is 'Kashawn", it is.)

But srsly, read that article.

bjdubbs said...

That LAT article reminds me of the Whiskey defintion of blacks (the first and only time I will quote Whiskey): toxic levels of self-esteem mixed with manifest incompetence.

He really should be going to a local community college.

Anonymous said...

"I agree with the commenter who said that Mexico isn't like "Elysium." I've lived in Mexico City and Querétaro."

Nice. Querétaro is becoming an American retirement destination, not because it's becoming Elysium. The bad news is that America is becoming more like Mexico. The good news is, unlike what some people on this blog believe, Mexico doesn't completely suck.

Anonymous said...

"Elysium I think is more a vision of the city of Anaheim, the dumb white politicians want to built 14 new hotels..."

Congratulations, you're almost there! If America is becoming like Elysium, don't blame it on the Mexicans. Blame it on SoCal. Post-war SoCal brought us the cookie cutter housing tracts, endless strip malls that you can't walk to, neighbors you don't know, commuting as a significant lifestyle commitment, ordering food from a clown's head, sitting in the back yard instead of on the front porch, etc. If Mexico is becoming like that in places, it's because of the SoCal influence, not the reverse.

Amused said...

As usual, more iSteve intellectual masturbation about some commies coming to LA "and clean up this place".

Honestly Steve, shouldn't white Americans do it yourself or have you completely lost hope? And why this lecherous hatred?


There's even an article in the NYT today sympathetic to Hispanics who are getting priced out by Euro-Hispanics, Whites and Asians.

As usual you are too fixated with "masculinity" and fail to understand forces far stronger than this, the educated, young and urban white class, can win the battle without a shot fired.

Anonymous said...

I'm a New Yorker. I used to go down to Brighton Beach(very Russian/ former Soviet Union immigrant neighborhood) every now and then and couldn't get over how many gorgeous recent immigrant women would come up to me and start flirting with me.

Most of the time I just ignored these hotties with heavy accents because it was obvious to me that they were either prostitutes or con-artists. There's no way women could be genuinely interested in me since I am very short, very ugly, really weird, very dumb, and have horrible teeth.

Also, this kind if thing almost never happens to me in any other neighborhoods in New York City.

So this is how some of them make a living...

Anonymous said...

toxic levels of self-esteem mixed with manifest incompetence.

Nobody who can come up with a line this good can be all bad

Dan in DC

Anonymous said...

You are just hoping someone besides Mexicans take over S. California. But if that were true, wouldn't the Russians or whoever have already taken over Tijuana? Or some other beautiful place along the Mexican coast?

Nah, not likely. And S. California is nice but it isn't that nice. I don't know how a few Russians (or anyone else) could get rid of the Mexicans there now.

I do agree that the world is about to discover that the Anglo-Saxon type White who used to run much of the White world was a LOT nicer than the Whites who will be prominent in the future. For example, Southern Whites really wanted everyone to like them and wanted to be thought of as gracious. I don't get that vibe from Russian
Maybe, Chinese and robots will get rid of Mexicans. Chinese make the housing market expensive and the robots get rid of some day labor, maids, janitors, or Ag workers.

Anonymous said...

Here in New Mexico there are loads of Latina hotties. I've been to socal and that's less true there, probably due to selection bias - pretty girls south of the border have options other than coming north to scrub gringo toilets, and the Socal hispanic population is more immigrant heavy than the hispanics here, most of whom either came to America long ago, or America came to them long ago. Maybe regression to the mean will even that out.

Also the white women in Socal are better looking than most other regions of the US, so the Latinas have a higher bar to meet.

Agree with other posters that Steve's comment was unnecessarily bitchy, like something the "Queer eye" guys would say if they weren't pc.

Anonymous said...

I dunno, but according to Kevin Drum and Matt Yglesias leaded gas is what causes the Chechens to be so violent.

Anonymous said...

Where will the Mexicans go? The Inland Empire for sure, and north toward Lancaster. Hopefully not into Ventura County. Already plenty of them in Oxnard and Ventura, but with the ever better weather there those areas may change to Asian too.
Ventura didn't appeal to Asians early enough, there are some Asian areas now in the Inland Empire like Chino Hills and Eastvale. Eastvale is one of the few cities where people can get a house in the 400,000's in a nice area. In OC, its a little strange, some cities like Cypress and Fountain Valley and Westminster and Garden Grove are over 30 percent Asian,and Fullerton, Buena Park appeal a lot to Koreans . Irvine appeals to Chinese and Koreans. South Orange County appeals mainly to whites and then Mexicans to be the whites servants. Maybe, there will be Asian enclaves in Ventura County in the future.

Rohan Swee said...

What are you proposing Steve, some sort of dog-eat-dog contest in which the toughest, hardest and wiliest from all corners of the earth duke it out for the posession of S. California?

It's not Steve's proposal, anon, it's nature's and history's proposal (and verdict). Territory belongs to the people with the will and the means to take it and keep it. For some reason this simple truth eludes the thick heads of the multi-cultists, the human-rightists, the immigration moralists, the proposition nationists - all of whom seem to believe it gets decided by UN commissions, or utilitarian casuistry, or magical assimilationist hormones in the water supply, or law codes. (That last works only after possession is established.)

"If Americans don't want California enough to keep it, lots of others folks will" is nothing but a simple statement of truth. And by the way, if a group in danger of dispossession is not doing anything about it beyond complaining about their corrupt political class giving it away without their approval or permission - that counts as "not wanting it enough" in the great scheme of things.

Orlando said...

"Eastern Europeans will save th White race!"
Oh, really? With minimum wage equivalent 450 bucks and Austrian or German way over 10, an average Czech waitress or supermarket cashier has no reason to travel to another continent for minimum wage job. They are just one day drive away in Alps resorts

Anonymous said...

What was the kid's SAT score? That'd be a better indicator of his compatibility with a top university than a 4.xx GPA at a ghetto school.

Anonymous said...

The good news is i'm seeing more Hispanics that look white as compared to 10 years ago. So, some married whites and now at least 10 percent or more of Hispanics in heavily Hispanic states will think of themselves as whites and less victims. The bad news is there are still lots of the poor brown Hispanics around that usually have more kids than the wealthier white Hispanics.

Anonymous said...

You are just hoping someone besides Mexicans take over S. California. But if that were true, wouldn't the Russians or whoever have already taken over Tijuana? Or some other beautiful place along the Mexican coast?

Nah, not likely. And S. California is nice but it isn't that nice. I don't know how a few Russians (or anyone else) could get rid of the Mexicans there now.

I do agree that the world is about to discover that the Anglo-Saxon type White who used to run much of the White world was a LOT nicer than the Whites who will be prominent in the future. For example, Southern Whites really wanted everyone to like them and wanted to be thought of as gracious. I don't get that vibe from Russian
True, in fact New York and New Jersey 5 and under population is much more white than either California or Texas. California is a low 25 percent, mostly Mexican but some Asian. Texas is a low 31 percent, mostly Mexican, some black and a few Asians. New York whites kids under 5 is at 43 percent. New Jersey at 45 percent. Mississippi where whites vote heavily Republican is a healthy 47 percent white, non-white mostly black and a few Mexicans.

Anonymous said...

The Rio Grande Area of Texas which is the poorest in the US, doesn't always have electricity or indoor plumbing, so yes the US has a region that is already like Mexico. The good news is cities further away from the border like El Paso are slowly developing a poverty rate now of only 24 percent versus about 28 percent about 5 years ago. However, MCAllen and Brownsville still have that 30 percent plus poverty rate and the Left bangs on Rick Perry on the 90 percent rural Mexican area of Texas since its poverty has few counterparts in the US.

Anonymous said...

Well, during the housing bubble period, Mexicans had a great escape which was Nevada, they were able to make better wages compared to La and so forth. And Nevada didn't have the cheap labor thinking of Texas to keep wages low even if housing was cheaper. So, thousands of Mexicans went there, Nevada even has a higher percentage of the population that is illegal. However, the bust effective Nevada pretty negatively and the Mexicans stop going there as much.

Mike said...

Everyone here seems to be confusing real Russians in LA with the movie version. Most Russians in LA don't do much of anything - they are good at getting welfare but not a lot else. The idea that they are super criminals is simply laughable. I asked a sheriff in West Hollywood (in the "Little Russia" area) how many gangster type Russians he had dealt with and he said he had never heard of a Russian even carrying a weapon in his 20 years in the city.
Armenians on the other hand are almost ALL criminals in LA. The poorer ones run drugs and the richer ones engage in any kind of crime that involves getting paper changed - insurance fraud, medical fraud etc. LA Armenians are the definition of amoral. When caught they don't care.

Anonymous said...

Well, whites are stupid when it comes to Mexicans. Ron Preibus head of the Republican Party ran to Santa Ana who has not choosen a white for congressional Representative since 1996, Bush barely won that congressional district because a few more whites where still there. In fact if Preibus had some brains he would have went to purple city Irvine which is divided more among Republicans and Democratics but he went to Santa Ana since he thinks the Mexicans are more against Abortion and Gay Rights.e

Anonymous said...

While Hispanics won't be creating new high technology firms and thus won't be helping us maintain our former status in the world I don't think much animus can legitimately be laid at the feet of Hispanic women. From my observation they tend to be more feminine and definitely more maternal than their spoiled white American counterparts. Their maternal inclinations are no-doubt leading to a birth imbalance, but perhaps there will be a silver lining. If enough American men start gravitating to the growing cohort of maternal gals, perhaps the others will get the message and have-it-all feminism will take the nose dive it so richly deserves to take.

I'm already getting annoyed at population conservatives looking to Mormon birthrates as a salvation. Mormonism is unmitigated bunk and the fact that conservatives would even discuss this religion as some sort of population salvation shows just how desperate things have become in the 'convince the gals to procreate' realm. I'd prefer to find a mechanism aside from Mormonism to convince American women to procreate early and often and to temper their out of control materialism/lifestylism.

gubbler of the church of reformed chechenism said...

Mexico City today, not exactly the dystopia of ELYSIUM.

http://www.mustangevolution.com/forum/f168/t26103/

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GPhff2Ix4Gs/UNm4yulMLDI/AAAAAAAANsc/t9l5nva1S3A/s1600/federal+mexico.jpeg

Anonymous said...

I also don't see Hispanics being displaced in any of the neighborhoods in which they've established themselves. Unlike Black neighborhoods that either stay stagnant or worse, allowing organic displacement and gentrification more feasible, Hispanics develop their neighborhoods into pedestrian dense small business districts.
This is probably true for Huntington Park or Maywood but in El Monte , lower class Asians moved in and in the Biggest Hispanic large city Santa Ana,it lost some Hispanics during the bad times and gain a few Asians mainly Vietnamese.

E. Rekshun said...

In LA in 1997, Ukranian immigrant Mikhail Markhasev shot and killed actor/comedian Bill Cosby's son, Ennis, during an armed robbery. If I remember correctly, Cosby's wife, Camile, subsequently went on a racist tirade criticizing and blaming White people for the murder.

Anonymous said...

Don't kid yourself about white men preferring Hispanic women. True there is a fair degree of miscegenation in CA but white men seek white women first, especially if they are marriage minded. Most white men want their children to be white. If they do marry out, usually because of limited opportunities to meet or date white women, they will chose Asian first because they want smart successful children and a wife without weight issues. Hispanic women are second choice, but they usually pack on pounds and the children frequently have learning and behavior issues. Blacks are last: children with learning and behavior problems are nearly guaranteed.

Ed said...

Read the article about the struggling black kid. Couple of things jump out:

1. His friend, the black kid that's doing well, commenting on how UCLA was the first time he felt he could be open about being intellectual. The Black community really does stifle whatever intellectual talent it possesses. This is very odd. Most cultures smart people are often lauded.

2. If the main black kid was the 2nd best at his school. I shudder to think what the other kids ranked lower than him are doing these days.

David said...

>But hey, the Americans decided the Russian (aka "Soviet") Empire was evil and needed to be destroyed. It is only justice that America now gets to take in all the "subject peoples" who are realizing life isn't so great in the post-Soviet Eurasia the US helped create.<

You have a point. We seem to end up with significant numbers of immigrants from nations that we're scrapping with. As I once put it, France in Algiers led to Algiers in France - complete with all-nite carbeques and all the trimmin's.

And helping to create n homeless refugees isn't very smart when a # of them end up in yr town, married to local men & cranking out kids.

When we will heed George Washington's advice to eschew foreign entanglements? If the govt is bent on open borders and Inviting the World, at least it could cut back on Invading the World.

Anonymous said...

Russians are growing in the US not like the Mexicans of course but what is interesting there are now 4 churches in Orange County which usually doesn't get much Eastern Europeans. Two are evangelical and two are Eastern Orthodox, in 1970 there was zero Russian language churches. One of the Churches is actually Serb but they now have enough Russians that the service is also in Russian.

Anonymous said...

"Anybody know what all the ex-Sovs are doing in L.A.?"

Whatever they're doing, they've done far less harm to LA than what Harvs did to all of Russia in the 1990s.

Anonymous said...

The article about Lashawn at Berkely is sad, not funny. He was set up for failure. Maybe he will be pushed through because he works so hard.

Anonymous said...

"My son, a white American who lives in LA, is trying to buy a house. He says all the real estate is being bought up very quickly by Chinese from China. He says they literally bring suitcases of cash. He says that white Americans are being pushed out, as blacks were before, and pretty soon it will be all Asian and Mexican."

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Vancouver, BC has been like this for years. But in Vancouver it is Chinese and Sikhs, not Mexicans.

Anonymous said...

From what I have seen, most Russian/Ukrainian/Jewish/Israeli/Armenian/Georgian immigrants here in NYC work at blue collar jobs like mechanics, maintenance, doormen, drivers, barbers, movers, hvac installers and nurses/medical and are decent people. Their children are probably more assimilated into white America than some 4th generation Italians are.

Do Russian neighborhoods in LA have a lot of "pain management" clinics?

Anonymous said...

This Guardian piece on Cyprus says that

a) tourist numbers are down

b) except for Russians.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/18/cyprus-sun-sand-food-banks-desperation?commentpage=1

The commenters chip in :

"possibly the long term reason not to go to Cyprus. Anyone who enjoys skiing in Europe knows the joy of encountering Russians on (and off) the piste."

"I used to like Cyprus but the sheer volume of Russians put me off going there. They are incredibly ignorant and hearing that more of them are going will not convince me to go back"


Anonymous said...

I thought the predominant race in Costa Rica is white European.

Anonymous said...

First time I encountered large numbers of Russians was on a visit to Sweden. Obviously thats handy for Russian tourists and there were a lot of them. In groups they were rude, pushy, jumping the queue (yes, Im a Brit). They werent winning any friends there at all.

Otoh Ive met some here individually in the UK and they're fine people.

Anonymous said...

Have you noticed the number of average Californian Amerindian hispanic female types that Hollywood has made super stars?

We're all supposed to pretend that the likes of Eva Longoria & Shakira are real Mestizo girls. Probably Xtina too.

Rohan Swee said...

From my observation [Hispanic women] tend to be more feminine and definitely more maternal than their spoiled white American counterparts.[...]

I'd prefer to find a mechanism aside from Mormonism to convince American women to procreate early and often and to temper their out of control materialism/lifestylism.


I'd prefer that "Hispanic" women in aggregate would find a mechanism for underwriting their allegedly superior "maternalism" than the white man's wallet (aka U.S. welfare system). You can squawk all you want about spoiled materialist white women, but I don't think a group with significantly higher rates of illegitimacy and welfare use than them represents paragons which merit holding up as examples to native white girls.

I've run into plenty of white women over the years who wanted to have more than one or two - unfortunately (by your lights, apparently) they came from benighted "old American" culture that considers it shameful to have children one can't support, and to rely on the public purse to provide necessities like food and medical care for them. (And no, I don't mean women who didn't have more children because they preferred to spend the family income on consumer goods.)

As for Mormon chicks, whatever you think about the looniness of their religious beliefs, they do, if iirc, have a significantly better record of avoiding bastardy and "the state is my husband" behavior than the group you so admire.

2Degrees said...

Anonymous said...

I thought the predominant race in Costa Rica is white European.

I live in Costa Rica. On TV adverts, the actors are often almost white. Your average Tico is more Eurpean than your average Nica, but not by much. The are a Mesoamerican people, maybe 40% white by the look of them. Light brown hair is common among infants, but very rare among adults.

Anonymous said...

"Just who will get first dibbings to dick the fair maiden?"

You do realize most white women are not blonde?
This infatuation with blonde women among white men is beyond me.
You remind me of the betas during the medieval era who thought they'd had to almost kill themselves to even get a wink from the women.

"Reminiscent of a battle-royal cockfight, tales from ancient history or those wonderful nerd-based computer games in which mythical olde worlde kingdoms fight it out in the virtual world thus leaving the bespectacled and degenerated thousandth generation descendants of warriors with a non-porn thrill."

This is actually a brilliant paragraph, becuase it's so nutty and stupid.

Also, what is 'nerd-based computer games'? This raises the question what non nerd-based computer games are; Pacman?
Also, learn to spell old world.

"And why the consistent and peristant non-rating of Mexicans in any of the manly spheres of life whether intellectual, physical or entertainment?
From what I've seen they are rather hand with a chain-saw and pretty ruthless with it, too boot. "

Because there hasn't been anything to rate?
You're another self-loathing white beta male?
Tired of you losers. Just jump off a cliff.

Anonymous said...

"I'm already getting annoyed at population conservatives looking to Mormon birthrates as a salvation. Mormonism is unmitigated bunk"

From an evolutionary point of view those two statements are logically incompatible.

However the critical point about Mormon birth rates is not Mormonism but that Mormonism maintains traditional cultural practises that were abandoned under the relentless assault of the 1968-er counter culture.

Mormon / Amish birth rates show that it was cultural changes which undermined white birth rates and that therefore the situation could be reversed if the political elite wanted to reverse it - as the Israelis have done in Israel and as the Russians are trying to do in Russia.

It's only in the PC gulag of the west that population replacement via mass immigration is the only allowed solution.

Anonymous said...

Honestly though Steve, a good question is why your nephew keeps getting nicknames by people. That's usually not the sign of a very intimidating man.

Also, why do you keep fantasize about various Caucasian(in the true sense of the word) or ex-Soviet groups coming to California and essentially conduct a large-scale Operation Wetback II campaign?

Comes across as desperation.
And at any rate, the white middle class does that job far more effectively and without any noise, but I guess it fails your obsession with "masculinity" which seems to be defined as willingness to get into a barfight rather than aggressiveness done by other means(usually more efficient ones). Just look at the campaigns of Bloomberg and/or Guiliani and compare them to thug gangs.

Which approach has been more effective?

Dont let your eyes fool you, Steve.

Anonymous said...

Typically, Steve posts thinly veiled attacks on the Jews, never going as far as Stormfront would, but he knows that enough of his readers are Stormfronters and they will pick up on his clues and run with them, while he can pretend to sit there innocently.

Steve knows that most ex-Soviets are Jewish. He knows that the vast majority of them are involved in high-IQ professions, with Russian Jews having higher levels of education than anyone else, even American Jews. Naturally highly educated people make more money than those who are less so.

He knows that Russian-speaking neighborhoods are very safe, and in fact, Russian Jews have some of the lowest crime rates in the nation. When they move into the neighborhood, violent crime rates collapse, regardless of who lived there before them: blacks, whites, Hispanics, Asians. A few crimes by those who don't like Russian Jews are always highlighted, but you can do that with anyone by finding a few bad apples. On average, however, Russian crime is phenomenally low. Go look up official statistics. All the comments here about how dangerous the Russians are were made by people who have an axe to grind or have no clue: Russian neighborhoods are extremely safe and full of people even late into the night.

He knows that other than the elderly getting Social Security, there are almost no Russians on welfare.

He knows all of this, but it's just more fun to insinuate something negative about them, knowing that one after another, the Stormfront section of the readership will accuse them of crime and other negative behavior.

This is something that appears on this blog almost daily. For instance, his favorite topic is Israel fighting illegal immigration. He knows that the Stormfront readers will run with it claiming that Jews are hypocritical in opposing immigration in one country, while supporting it in the other. But this is BS. For one, these are different Jews (Sephardim, Russian, etc oppose illegal immigration, while Secular Jews support it both in Israel and in the US support illegals.

More importantly, Israel has a higher percentage of illegal immigrants than the U.S. does. Their authorities have tried to hide it, but everyone who's traveled to Israel knows that the southern half of Tel Aviv, the city of Eilat (Israel's version of Miami), and many other cities are completely dominated by illegal African immigrants.

Yes, Israel does some things in response that the US doesn't do, but then there are other things that the US does that Israel does not. Steve makes sure to pick and choose to make sure that his readers get the impression that he wants them to get, while his Stormfront attack dogs will run wild with their comments.

"White nationalists", just like black "civil rights leaders" are frauds who use whatever argument they like to get to whatever conclusion they want to get to. When going with IQ and education suits them as an explanation, they do that. When it doesn't suit them, we hear, "I wuz robbed, no fair!" The goal is never to get the real facts and statistics, but to sling mud at others, whether they are more or less successful, just as long as they are "The Other."

Steve makes comments he likes into actual blog posts, but I bet this one will get blocked as spam.

Anonymous said...

"Have you noticed the number of average Californian Amerindian hispanic female types that Hollywood has made super stars?"

Lame sarcasm. Are we supposed to believe that Hollywood is an arbiter of taste and beauty? Most of the women pushed by Hollywood as beautiful and sexy don't even give me wood.

" I don't think much animus can legitimately be laid at the feet of Hispanic women. From my observation they tend to be more feminine and definitely more maternal than their spoiled white American counterparts."

Yes.

Steve Sailer said...

I'm accused of secretly talking about Jews when I talk about Russians, but when I want to talk about Jews I talk about Jews. Instead, here I'm calling attention to two little discussed immigration phenomenon: the sizable influx into the eastern San Fernando Valley of gentile Slavs and of gentile peoples from the southern ex-Soviet Union.

The Russians that my nephew played soccer with tended to be big, flat-headed, and fair: classic gentile Slavs. There are also Ukrainians, Bulgarians and other ex-Warsaw Pact Slavs in the San Fernando Valley.

The other big group of ex-Sovs in the Valley are Armenians and Armenian-like Georgians and others from the Caucasus.

Go to the Jon's supermarket on Magnolia and Laurel Canyon, for example, and look at the customers: very few look Jewish, while lots look like they are from Moscow or Istanbul.

Jewish immigrants in the Valley tend to be Israelis and Iranians, who are not ex-Sovs.

There are far fewer ex-Soviet Jews in L.A. than in NYC, with their center being in West Hollywood (e.g., Fairfax Blvd.) and the Westside rather than the Valley.

Anonymous said...

Where are these trolls coming from? Was Steve linked from Slate or something?

as said...

Your nephew is blond, not blonde, right?

Truth said...

"That LAT article reminds me of the Whiskey defintion of blacks (the first and only time I will quote Whiskey): toxic levels of self-esteem mixed with manifest incompetence."

Hahahaha; Quote him? I think you DESCRIBED him!

Anonymous said...

"Typically, Steve posts thinly veiled attacks on the Jews, never going as far as Stormfront would, but he knows that enough of his readers are Stormfronters and they will pick up on his clues and run with them, while he can pretend to sit there innocently."

This is a professional blogger paid for by the Israeli government. Steve should be flattered that they notice him.

Anonymous said...

Every now and again I read some anonymous commenter accusing iSteve readers of being anti-Semites and Stormfront readers. I don't know if Steve can trace back the IP addresses, but I'm sure the machines are in Israel.

Anonymous said...

hey, jerks with your anti-steve personally attacks. attack his writing not your notions of who may be writing them. and if you think he's "bitter old white man" than don't read go read the mainstream media let them lie to you in which case you'll regard them as "vibrant young and diverse" surely.

AP said...

Check out this blog by a Brit trying to run an agribusiness in the Ukraine.

http://agronomyukraine.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-problem-with-ukraine-is.html

He has an interesting twitter feed as well.

Anonymous said...

One of the reasons that the Europeans use credit cards with little chips on them and we in American don't is because the Europeans have to deal with Eastern European criminals who are much, much smarter than American criminals.

Import enough Russians and you'll start to see chips on the cards here, too. Fraud on cards without chips for Russian guys is like shooting fish in a barrel, with dynamite. You wonder what they're doing? That's what they're doing.

Anonymous said...

Typically, Steve posts thinly veiled attacks on the Jews blah blah bleat whine

I, for myself, would love to post outright, blatant, completely unveiled attacks on the jews but Steve is too much of a gentleman to allow such comments.

Orlando said...

As far as Russians go, they are rude with any strangers, even among themselves. On the ski pistas U know Russians even without seeing their faces. But at my recent visit to Cypre, I went with a plane load of them to a day trip to Israel and after sitting next to them during the day on a bus, they were geting progresively nicer, again, even among themselves. If U befriend them, they are best of friends. They will even lend U a dollar witout 3 page contract or collateral, something that never happened to me in S.C.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if our boy LaShawn looks at his extremely high yella friend Spencer and makes any connection.

And I've got $100 that says Spencer's "single mom" is white.

Anonymous said...

I, for myself, would love to post outright, blatant, completely unveiled attacks on the jews but Steve is too much of a gentleman to allow such comments.

I waste a catastrophic amount of time on my simple straightforward cut-n-dried observations about the reality of the real world as it really exists, trying to tailor my Komments so that they Konform to the unwritten Kode of Konduct of Komment Kontrol, and yet still I suffer a rejection rate of 50% or greater.

It's insanity.

Phreaking insanity.

A Working Class American said...


Blogger Jim Bowery said...

Quothe Sailer: "If Americans don't want California enough to keep it"

Americans care about keeping their honor -- that is to say keeping their moral territory. Since keeping moral territory has been successfully identified, by their "betters", with Americans giving up physical territory, they give up physical territory.
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Close. Americans care about being seen as a good person, as defined by mainstream society. Who puts out the standards for mainstream society? The people on the TV, the talking heads, the teachers and professors, the movies, etc.

All those mainstream societal institutions and outlets tell americans that to be a 'good person' you must be accepting and welcoming of nonwhites, minorities, gays, immigrants,etc.

How and why this came to pass is the interesting question. Things do not happen in this universe with a cause. Cause, and then effect. Always been that way.

But no one but me seems to be interested in this question--what forces created this situation? No one cares--probably because the TV talking heads and other voices of mainstream society avoid this question. Which leads to another question, etc etc etc....

Dahinda said...

I don't know how this compares to Los Angeles but I have a couple of comments about Ex-Soviets living in the Chicago Area. One is back when I was a painter the company I worked for painted large apartment complexes. When the Soviet Bolc fell thousands of Ex-Soviet tradesmen swarmed into Chicago. They were highly qualified but thought that half the prevailing wage was living high off the hog. Just like them not being afraid of Mexicans, they aren't afraid of labor unions either and soon drove many trades down. They were ruthless and weren't above acts of violence, like beating up tradesmen to make them fear coming to a job. Another comment is the fact that as the Chicago Outfit declines, the Russian Mob rises. The Mannheim Road sin strip just south of O'Hare was the Chicago Mob's profit center and main turf. Beginning in about the late 90's, the police blotters and general crime news stories of the area stopped featuring guys with Italian names and more and more guys with Russian names. There was a club in Melrose Park, on Mannheim Road, that was a notorious mob hangout. A while ago the sign went from having an English language name to having a name in Cyrillic script.

Anonymous said...

"Mormon / Amish birth rates show that it was cultural changes which undermined white birth rates and that therefore the situation could be reversed if the political elite wanted to reverse it - as the Israelis have done in Israel and as the Russians are trying to do in Russia."

Sure, but essential to that effort is displacing the modernist notion that the perfect life involves spending as much money as humanly possible. Capitalism, feminism and anti-Christianity conspired to create this situation. It won't be reversed unless and until materialism is constrained somehow and only Christianity (Mormonism isn't Christianity) can do that, perhaps. Protestantism has completely dropped the ball. But, Mormonism isn't a credible option either, given its obvious fraudulent origins.

pat said...

Maybe there's a screenplay in this concept.

I've tried a couple times to watch "The Hunger Games" but the prospect of teenagers fighting to the death on TV is too preposterous for me to get into it.

But maybe the idea of Russians fighting Mexicans for access to the climate could grab and hold an audience.

Albertosaurus

Marc B said...

In the Midwest, Russians had a near monopoly on the computer expo and upgrade parts business in the early 2000's. They would undercut the local computer shops while providing an impressive selection. People held off on major purchases until they first had a chance to wheel and deal with them.

Truth said...

That's what you call, "high-yella", Helen Keller?

Truth said...

"And I've got $100 that says Spencer's "single mom" is white."

"Spencer was raised in a tough L.A. neighborhood by a single mom who had sometimes worked two jobs to pay the rent. Spencer had gone to... Inglewood High... Spencer's mother...exposed her only child to...INGLEWOOD! (emphasis mine)

In case you were wondering, Inglewood is a historically black 'hood, Amerigo Vespucci.

Make it 10 grand, and i'll fly out to where you are to take that bet.

Truth said...

" Most of the women pushed by Hollywood as beautiful and sexy don't even give me wood..."

How many of the dudes?

"I've run into plenty of white women over the years who wanted to have more than one or two - unfortunately (by your lights, apparently) they came from benighted "old American" culture that considers it shameful to have children one can't support,"

And how many progeny have you sired, Brigham Young?

Anonymous said...

situation could be reversed if the political elite wanted to reverse it - as the Israelis have done in Israel

The Israeli political elite is fractured. The secular Ashkenazi political elite is not at all thrilled about the ultra-Orthodox having all of those babies.

Anonymous said...

My take s the worst is probably making the US look like El Paso. El Paso is poor and Mexican its a rural version of Santa Ana, but probably the kids finished high school more in El Paso. The big issue is water and the Mexican population grows but is starting to get rid of the Santa Ana high birth rates and even Santa Ana is starting to drop gradually.

Anonymous said...

Looking at the educational levels of different cities, its seems that illegal Hispanics prefer certain cities even if their present is in almost every city in La or Orange County. Santa Ana still has the most illegals by far in Orange County by looking at educational levels of the community. It has some areas that are between 30 to 40 percent with educational levels 9th grade or lower. Anaheim is between 15 to 30 percent depending upon the west side and hills is even lower. So, the illegals under Reagan first came to Santa Ana and their kids went to Anaheim and other cities. In fact Santa Ana has the most babies and Anaheim is lower and Garden Grove which is about 35 percent Mexican is lower. Illegal immigrants kind of box themselves in certain cities and while spreading are still heavily in certain cities.

Anonymous said...

Mexicans don't have as many small business as Asians. Santa Ana doesn't have a Mexican version of little Saigon like Westminster and Garden Grove. Mainly because Mexicans do just food while the Asians will have a nail place or a a dry cleaner business or repair place for clothing and so forth. Santa Ana about 10 years almost all the business were in Spanish, some whites pushed for white business in downtown Santa Ana and they are now restaurants and bars that also served whites try doing that in little Saigon.

Anonymous said...

"How many of the dudes?"

That's the point, smart-asshole. The women pushed by Hollywood tend to be rail-thin and boyish, not womanly by most normal standards.

Anonymous said...

How many of the dudes?"

That's the point, smart-asshole. The women pushed by Hollywood tend to be rail-thin and boyish, not womanly by most normal standards.
8/19/13, 2:25 PM
A lot of white women in La and OC are middle age, not teenagers or people in their 20's. The housewives of Orange County is more realistic in that the average white women is age 42 not 28 anymore and particularly in California where a lot of young whites moved out. The US census studies show middle age white people, so they probably are not going to be good looking to people in their 20's or 30's.

Anonymous said...

The women pushed by Hollywood tend to look like 13 year old boys. Makes one wonder who's dictating beauty standards. Especially considering the fad for hairlessness (which coincidentally is mandated in Sharia). Pedocracy?

Anonymous said...

Well, this is an interesting question? Maybe, most states if they had the demographics of the Reagan years would have lower unemployment. In Texas, I think one study shown whites at 4.8 and Hispanics at 7.1 and blacks at over 9 percent. This means that Texas would probably have an unemployment rate of near Minnesota's 5.2 percent. Troubled California might be around 6.8 percent with a lower Hispanic population. I think Mexicans average over 10 percent in California. This would knock some of the red state versus blue state since some of it is related to ethnic background.

Anonymous said...

"The secular Ashkenazi political elite is not at all thrilled about the ultra-Orthodox having all of those babies."

True, but better that than Arabs having tons of babies and outbreeding the Jews.

If there were no Arabs in Israel, the main political and cultural divide would be between secular Jews and religious Jews, but as long as there's a sizable number of Arabs whom the Jews fear, there is no chance of religious Jews and secular Jews fracturing into serious enemies. They will fight over single issues, but they will not fight group vs group. The group that all Jews must unite to fight is that of the Arabs.

David said...

>Mexicans do just food<

Not just food. In Mexico City, it's food AND copy services LOL.

vinteuil said...

@anonymous 5:01 a.m.: I assume you're the guy who's always complaining about "komment kontrol."

Considering some of the stuff that SS lets through, I'm genuinely curious to see what it takes to get a comment rejected!

Serious suggestion: set up a blog of your own. Call it something like "Komment UnKontrolled." And anytime SS rejects one of your comments, just post it to your own blog, and then submit a comment, bitching as per usual about SS's komment kontrol, but with a link to that post, here at iSteve.

Surely SS would allow *that*.