January 27, 2014

Jewish Journal: "Who is the mysterious shiksa girlfriend of Israel’s boy king?"

The blonde in white
From the Jewish Journal of Los Angeles:
Sandra Leikanger and Yair Netanyahu: Who is the mysterious shiksa girlfriend of Israel’s boy king? 
By Simone Wilson 
Norwegian news outlet Dagen is reporting that 23-year-old Yair Netanyahu, the prime minister's eldest son and baby-faced prince of Tel Aviv nightlife, is going steady with 25-year-old Sandra Leikanger, a Norwegian communications major he met while the two were studying at the Interdisciplinary Center (IDC) in Herzliya, Israel. 
... The scandal? The First Girlfriend is (allegedly) a white-hot Norwegian shiksa. 
What's more, the L.A. Jewish Journal can exclusively report that the two have been hanging out since at least the first week of July 2013. ... 
That same night, the First Son's bodyguard, hanging back in the crowd, told me wearily that his young boss had been staying out until dawn multiple nights per week. Netanyahu's firstborn also goes to IDC, which everyone knows is host to the nation's highest concentration of hot chicks and rich kids who like to party. 
So congrats, Miss Norway, on taming Israel's devilish boy king. ...
The Israeli media is reporting that Leikanger's older sister, Ida, also lives in Israel and has converted to Judaism. The two girls reportedly grew up in an Evangelical family in the quaint Norwegian port town of Grimstad. 
Religious and right-wing members of the Knesset, Israel's version of parliament, are of course making a monstrous stink about the mere prospect of muggle babies diluting the Royal Family. Apparently, matters of lesser importance like peace in the Middle East must take a backseat to one pretty Aryan threat to the bloodline.   
... Netanyahu, however, whose second marriage was to a shiksa from England, seems unfazed.

I did not know that.

Dad Bibi's love life has been pretty energetic. From Wikipedia:
Netanyahu's first marriage was to Miriam Weizmann, who he met in Israel. ... The couple had one daughter, Noa (born 29 April 1978). In 1978, while Weizmann was pregnant, Netanyahu met a British woman named Fleur Cates at the university library, and began an affair. His marriage ended in divorce soon afterward, when his wife discovered the affair. In 1981, he married Cates, but the couple divorced in 1984. In 1991 Netanyahu married his third wife, Sara Ben-Artzi, a psychology major working as a flight attendant, whom he met while traveling on an El Al flight from New York to Israel.[39][172] ... 

This article in The Times of Israel claims that Sara entrapped Bibi by getting pregnant:
“She had a plan. He didn’t have a plan. He’s very clever in some ways and very unpredictable, maybe stupid, in others,” says a former Bibi staffer. “She got pregnant. He didn’t have any serious intention of marrying her. She basically trapped him, and for some reason she was very surprised when another woman trapped him later.”

Back to Wikipedia:
In 1993, Netanyahu confessed on live television to having had an affair with Ruth Bar, his public relations adviser, claiming that a political rival had planted a secret video camera that had recorded him in a sexually-compromising position with Bar, and that he had been threatened with the release of the tape to the press unless he quit the Likud leadership race. The crisis eventually subsided, with Benjamin and Sara repairing their marriage, and Netanyahu was elected. However, in 1996, reports emerged of his "close" 20-year friendship with Katherine Price-Mondadori, a married Italian-American woman.[172]
 
I don't know, but I'd bet Putin's personal life is comparably chaotic.

81 comments:

2Degrees said...

Israel's Euro-Jewish elite looks very Euro.

ErisGuy said...

Sounds like he seized the day and lived life to its fullest. Would he be who he was if he was a desiccated moralist who strove for conformity to the moral law?

IHTG said...

Netanyahu's younger son, Avner, is cut from a different cloth: http://crownheights.info/chabad-news/385151/picture-of-the-day-avner-netanyahu-lays-tefillin/

Black Sea said...

For reasons that hardly need explaining, Netanyahu senior is über-alpha. He's also a politician, and most successful politicians are egomaniacs.

Netanyahu junior, on the other hand, is rather dorky looking. For whatever it's worth, I think his girlfriend is the least attractive of the three women pictured in the photograph. It looks like she might be suffering a bit from "man jaw."

Shawn said...

The National Enquirer has reported that Obama has been having affairs...

LemmusLemmus said...

Full text of the style manual of Jewish Journal of Los Angeles:

Have you seen L.A. Confidential? Do you remember the fine texts of Hush Hush magazine that get read from the off? Write just like that!

Anonymous said...

White, yes. Hot, no.

OrangeKangaroo said...

In Israel it is illegal for a Jew to marry a non-Jew, so this should be interesting if things develop...

On other news a scandal has erupted! Chelsea Clinton married a Jewish guy! Stop the presses!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Clinton#Personal_life

Anonymous said...

She's actually pretty attractive, they just selected a bad photo of her. Do a google image search.

Anonymous said...

I'm an open-minded guy for the most part, but I find the rampant infidelity among powerful "leaders" to be a bit disturbing and depressing. I like to think the most successful people are better than that, but such are the animal drives we (and even more so they) have.

Also, as a goy who has visited Israel, their chicks are freaking hot. I'd happily take one that young Netanyahu passed over.

Anonymous said...

So many so-called leaders from Biblical times onwards to now seem to be unfaithful cheaters. King David, Nero, Charlemagne, Charles II, JFK, Clinton are just a few examples. It sometimes seems as if a large majority of our leaders in both parties are adulterous scum or practioners of serial matrimony via the divorce courts.

Steve, is it possible you might provide an article sometime giving the examples of politcal leaders of known probity of marital life, so that we might compare and contrast their styles and accomplishments and ideology with the rest of the lot? Are there outward behavioral tells we might look for to determine if a potential leader has enough grey matter to keep it zipped up and honor his promises to his wife?

It seems to me that if a man cannot be trusted to honor a simple vow of lifelong fidelity to his wife, then he also cannot be trusted with faithfully carrying out any sort of promises towards the citizenry or to uphold his oath to protect the US Constitution.

Anonymous said...

http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2014/01/wealth-and-pisa-scores-why-doesnt-money-help-u-s-performance-more.html

anony-mouse said...

Doesn't anyone read the Bible? The kings of Israel were always a merry bunch.

Big Bill said...

"In Israel it is illegal for a Jew to marry a non-Jew, so this should be interesting if things develop..."

It isn't a crime for a Jew to marry a non-Jew in Israel. It is impossible. The government of Israel isn't in the marrying business. Racial/ethnic/religious communities do the marrying. Israelis who wish to marry outside their race/ethnicity must go to a foreign country to do so. Some 10-20% of Israeli Jews do just that. There is no civil (ie government) marriage in Israel. No standing in front of a Justice of the Peace stuff.

Anonymous said...

Beautfiul awesome people do beautiful awesome things.


All the really successful men I know have had multiple women and different kids by different girls.

Anonymous said...

Men who tag lots of women=badass

keypusher said...

Re Putin, wikipedia will give you a good start.

On 28 July 1983 Putin married Kaliningrad-born Lyudmila Shkrebneva, at that time an undergraduate student of the Spanish branch of the Philology Department of the Leningrad State University and a former Aeroflot flight attendant. They lived together in Germany from 1985 to 1990. During this time, according to BND archives, a German spy befriended Putina, who said that Putin beat her and had love affairs.[285] When the couple left Germany in 1990 it was rumoured that Putin left behind an illegitimate child.[285]

Putina was rarely seen with President Putin[286][287] and there were rumours, according to the Daily Mail and other newspapers, that the couple separated.[286][287][288] Putin has been linked by newspapers with other women, including gymnast Alina Kabayeva[286][287] and ex-spy Anna Chapman.[288][289] These rumours have been denied.[290][291] Vladimir Putin and his wife, Lyudmila, announced on 6 June 2013, that their marriage was over, ending years of speculation about their relationship. Presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said no official divorce had been drawn up yet, and he did not know when it would be, but he attached little importance to the formality.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin

Anonymous said...

http://stuartschneiderman.blogspot.com/2014/01/feminist-misogyny.html

difference maker said...

She's ok

Re an anonymous:
Powerful people are not at heart meek weaklings. Save your mewling for the personals

Anonymous said...

What Martin Luther would think if he could see what modern Protestantism from the Northern European people s is today?

Anonymous said...

Miriam Weizmann
Fleur Cates
Sara Ben-Artzi
Ruth Bar
Katherine Price-Mondadori


Okay, Wikipedia says that Netanyahu has three children, so a quick back-of-the envelope calculation reveals a

3 / 5 = 0.60 TOTAL FERTILITY RATE

Granted, some of these chicks might have had biological children by other men, but that's why demographers* are so interested in female fertility [rather than male fertility].

It's also why big-man-istic Alpha Male social mores are so devastating to a society and its civilization.

In fact, from the point of view of Darwinian nihilism, you could argue plausibly that much of the overt nihilism of modernity is driven by a [conscious -vs- subconscious?] biological desire on the part of the Alphas to seize all of the women for themselves, and thereby to unbreed the Betas right out of existence.

You see the same thing happening in Cuba [a country to which Netanyahu's Tribe has very old and very deep ties] - Fidel Castro is believed to have 10 or 15 different children, but the children are also believed to have 10 or 15 different mothers, so Fidel's women's collective Total Fertility Rate is probably down around 1.0 - and that number doesn't even include the myriad untold mistresses by which Fidel never had children.

*PS: If the statistics were readily available, then demographers really ought to try to pair both the Female Total Fertility Rate with some statistic for the males, which showed a distribution of just which males were fathering all the children.

Has anyone actually studied this with any rigor?

It could be that in many societies, even if there is a healthy Total Fertility Rate for females, then there might also be a [stealth?] core of Alphas, who have two or three children by each of two or three different wives, and who are badly weighting the bell curve for fatherhood in their own favor.

[Obviously in pre-modern polygamous societies, but maybe also in modern divorce-driven Western societies?]

Chicago said...

Bill Clinton has got them all beat. JFK is also a top all-time contender. Of course, it take two to tango. Apparently, despite all the blather one hears, women are out there standing in line to get involved with men who impart status, money or glamour of some sort. Look at Hollande of France who seems to have women conspiring to dislodge the queen-of-the-hill of the moment so that they themselves can occupy the spot. Physically, the man looks like a toad that one would never want to see on the beach in swim shorts but yet there you have it.

Anonymous said...

Meanwhile, the NIH is worried about disparate impact:

http://www.mindingthecampus.com/forum/2014/01/is_diversity_in_science_necess.html

Anonymous said...

http://nypost.com/2014/01/22/drug-dealer-slain-after-bragging-about-125k-stop-frisk-court-win/?_ga=1.166354878.1279829753.1390474083

Rotfl

Anonymous said...

“She had a plan. He didn’t have a plan. He’s very clever in some ways and very unpredictable, maybe stupid, in others,”...“She got pregnant. He didn’t have any serious intention of marrying her. She basically trapped him, and for some reason she was very surprised when another woman trapped him later.”

==========================


Wait, you mean that sex frequently results in baybeez?!!? OMG! Yes, women do do that, but my sympathy for the men is pretty limited, unless someone's, like, raping them or something. Can we all just take reponsibility for our own genitals?

Also, two unmarried (right?) people having sex that results in babies because she's a gold digger and he's a moron is not the same as said moron later having an affair. And now I feel dirty for even doing the moral aritmetic.

Anonymous said...

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/20/writers-attack-overrated-american-literature-jaipur-festival

Canadian Cincinnatus said...

"I don't know, but I'd bet Putin's personal life is comparably chaotic."

Except that in Putin's case, the inconvenient people probably end up getting machine-gunned down in their apartment lobby on his birthday.

Anonymous said...

OrangeKangaroo:"In Israel it is illegal for a Jew to marry a non-Jew, so this should be interesting if things develop..."

She'll probably just convert to Judaism, like her sister ("The Israeli media is reporting that Leikanger's older sister, Ida, also lives in Israel and has converted to Judaism"). Barring that, they could also do what many interfaith couples do in Israel, marry abroad (" However, Israel does recognise civil or religious marriages entered into outside Israel. It is usual for couples who may not or choose not to marry in Israel to travel overseas to marry.[14] One out of every ten Israelis who married in 2000 did so abroad mainly because they could not marry in Israel. 2,230 couples who married abroad consisted of two Israeli partners, and another 3,660 couples consisted of an Israeli and a non-Israeli partner.")(via WIKIPEDIA).


Interesting to note that Israeli marriage law is based on how the Ottoman Empire used to manage things:

"Matrimonial law is based on the Millet or confessional community system employed in the Ottoman Empire, which was not modified during the British Mandate and remains in force in the State of Israel.[5]
There are nine officially recognised Christian communities, and Jewish, Muslim and Druze communities. Marriages in each community are under the jurisdiction of their own religious authorities." (WIKIPEDIA)

Anonymous said...

"Lahiri found the focus on English "distressing … because it has a certain power and a certain readership and a certain commercial currency now", and she feels "there is so much literature that needs to be brought forward, and the danger now is that it's getting even less exposure".

In other words, we should be reading HER books.
Anyway, she need not worry. McWhorther assures us that languages don't count for much in forming different worldviews.

"Statistics from 2007 show that about 2% of books published in the UK and US are translations, as opposed to Germany (13%), France (27%), Spain (28%), Turkey (40%) and Slovenia (70%). In 2008, Nobel prize for literature judge Horace Engdahl told an interviewer that American writers were "too isolated, too insular". Americans "don't translate enough and don't really participate in the big dialogue of literature," Engdahl said at the time. "That ignorance is restraining."

But how many of the 'translations' in non-English-speaking countries are from something other than American/British books? I'm guessing not a lot.

I doubt if Spain is translating many works from Burmese, Arabic, or Swahili.

When Spain translates Stephen King, Stephanie Meyers, and Rohwling, it counts as 'translation' but in fact the Spanish like to read what Americans and British are reading. They are 'provincial' too except their provincialism is masked as 'translation'.

Europeans watch many more subtitled films than Americans do. But most such films are Hollywood movies subbed into Euro languages.
So, Amers and Euros are really watching the same movies. But Euros can claim to be seeing subbed movies. Never mind that most of those subbed movies are American.

Anonymous said...

More info on marriage in Israel:

"The status quo agreement [Orthodox control over Jewish marriages in Israel] creates difficulties for people who, for whatever reason, cannot marry or divorce within the system, or who do not want to marry in a religious ceremony. The issue became acute when large numbers of immigrants (olim) from the former Soviet Union arrived in Israel in the 1990s. Although they became Israeli citizens under the Law of Return, some of the olim were not considered Jewish by the rabbinate, which requires proof of maternal Jewish descent." (WIKIPEDIA)

An interesting point is that the Israeli government and the Orthodox Rabbinate (which has a monopoly on marriage in Israel)have differing definitions of Jewishness. The Israeli government defines Jewishness according to the Nazi Nuremberg Laws: "At present, the definition is based on Hitler’s Nuremberg Laws: the right of Return is granted to any individual with one Jewish grandparent, or who is married to someone with one Jewish grandparent" (Jewish Virtual Library).

The Orthodox Rabbinate, in contrast, hold to the traditional definition (matrilineal descent and/or conversion under Orthodox auspices.

Art Deco said...

It is not 'illegal' for a Jew to marry a Gentile in Israel. Rather, matters of personal status are handled through confessional tribunals (a practice which dates from the Ottoman period). Cross-confessional marriages are simply not recognized in Israel.

I cannot figure the references to "Royal Family" and 'boy king' and what not. Netanyahu has been the Prime Minister for eight of the last 21 years and the chairman of Likud for 14 of the last 21 years. His durability in Israeli politics is not unprecedented. Israel invest relatively little in security details and what not for its politicians and their families.

Anonymous said...

I doubt Bebe and Putin consider their love lives to be "chaotic."

Anonymous said...

Shawn said, " The National Enquirer has reported that Obama has been having affairs..."

With women?

rathernotsay said...

Chaotic to you, business as usual for an Israeli pol, or general. Following the US lead, there were some major scandals with generals "sexually harassing" young female soldiers. Until the Americans taught them this was wrong, no one batted an eyelash.

rathernotsay said...

It's not actually illegal for persons of different religions to marry in Israel. They'll honor marriages contracted abroad. They just don't do 'em in Israel. All marriages are handled by each religious grouping.

In Israel this protects the weakest minority: the Christians.

Fun fact: in Israel the best secondary schools are run by Christians. Jews are second rate intellectually when they form a majority.

Marc B said...

"Israel's Euro-Jewish elite looks very Euro".

Americans would be surprised how many honey-haired, blue-eyed Israelis with only mildly Semitic features there are over there. Their women are quite popular with Scandinavian playboys. They struck me as a different stock than the Jews who emigrated en masse to the US.

Dutch Boy said...

Note the Jewish "morality" at work: they don't object to the Netanyahus' adultery and fornication with shiksas, just the marriages.

james wilson said...

By the standards of Moses Bibi is a eunuch.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, but remember ... Jews have kept their bloodlines pure and unsullied for thousands of years!

Never mind the Ayran-looking girlfriend, the Israeli boy-king himself looks remarkably white.

Anonymous said...

One kind of feels bad for Netanyahu fils. Given his grandfather and father's track records of achievement (heck also his uncle the commando, his grand-uncle the complex mathematician and his great-grandfather the big-wheel Zionist!), he has to know that the law of averages favors a reversion to the mean in his case.

Miguel S. said...

Bibi is the Israeli Bill Clinton. He was able to get a second chance because of the differences in our political systems, and he actually came back improved.

Rifleman said...

Anonymous said...

White, yes. Hot, no.


Which partly explains the evolution of white skin and especially blond hair.

Being female and have those two traits magically places you in the hot category despite the over all "package".

Same thing happens with male height and other features. Mediocre people get an unwarranted advantage if they just have a few key traits, esp. relatively insignificant traits.

Anonymous said...

"I doubt Bebe and Putin consider their love lives to be 'chaotic'."

Putin finds sexual politics in the West to be gaotic.

Rifleman said...

...popular with Scandinavian playboys.

First time I've heard of that type.

That's right up there with Filipino intellectual, black math nerd and Jewish day laborer.

Svigor said...

shiksa.askdefine.com

Shiksa (Yiddish: ) or shikse, is a Yiddish word that has moved into English usage, mostly in North American Jewish culture, that is used as a mock-pejorative term for a non-Jewish woman. Traditionally, the word shiksa is used to refer to a non-Jewish woman.
The word shiksa is derived from the Hebrew term sheketz, which means "abomination," "impure," or "object of loathing", depending on the translator.
Despite its etymology, the term shiksa is widely used and accepted in the United States, where it is often used in a humorous way.


I think I'm going to start referring to Jews as "impure," "abominations," and maybe "objects of loathing" when I want to sound more formal. It'll all be mock-pejorative, though, and definitely used in a humorous way.

Anonymous said...

Granted, some of these chicks might have had biological children by other men, but that's why demographers* are so interested in female fertility [rather than male fertility].

Demographers are interested in female fertility when they're trying to project population growth and size.

If you're interest in evolutionary direction, then male fertility is more relevant since that's where reproduction is centralized.

RAZ said...

"It isn't a crime for a Jew to marry a non-Jew in Israel. It is impossible. The government of Israel isn't in the marrying business. Racial/ethnic/religious communities do the marrying."

This was actually the basis for my Libertarian solution to government recognition of gay marriages. Take government out of the business of sanctioning marriages all together. Let religious and civil communities decide what for them are acceptable marriage combinations. So Baptists would not approve gay marriage but Unitarians would, Orthodox Judiasm would not, while Reform Judiasm would, etc.

Government could sanction any union as a Civil Union so that the tax benefits, inheritance rights, etc. would apply to any union whether sanctioned by a religious group or not.

Svigor said...

It isn't a crime for a Jew to marry a non-Jew in Israel. It is impossible. The government of Israel isn't in the marrying business. Racial/ethnic/religious communities do the marrying. Israelis who wish to marry outside their race/ethnicity must go to a foreign country to do so. Some 10-20% of Israeli Jews do just that. There is no civil (ie government) marriage in Israel. No standing in front of a Justice of the Peace stuff.

There's a couple of sentences missing from that paragraph, that explain why nobody in Israel will perform the marriage. Obviously, the Israeli gov't is in the recognizing marriages business, which raises the question of why anyone would have to leave Israel to get married.

However, Israel does recognise civil or religious marriages entered into outside Israel.

See what I mean? Which means, Israel doesn't recognize, say, marriages performed in a Church in Israel, or performed by "rogue" Rabbis, etc. Which pretty much does put them in the marriage business, no?

It is not 'illegal' for a Jew to marry a Gentile in Israel.

Yes, but is it illegal? But seriously, why do people have to go to another country to get married?

It's not actually illegal for persons of different religions to marry in Israel. They'll honor marriages contracted abroad. They just don't do 'em in Israel. All marriages are handled by each religious grouping.

Still doesn't explain why people can't get married in Israel. Or why Jews, who are so very on side with "homosexual marriage" in the United States, aren't up in arms about this travesty of justice in Israel.

In Israel this protects the weakest minority: the Christians.

How so?

Anonymous said...

Beautfiul awesome people do beautiful awesome things.

All the really successful men I know have had multiple women and different kids by different girls.


While the rest of us bitterly masturbate to midget porn, or whatever genre our twisted and frustrated sexuality finds an outlet in.

Anonymous said...

Powerful people are not at heart meek weaklings. Save your mewling for the personals


Yes, let us all bow down and kiss the ground the powerful people walk on.

Anonymous said...

Pitbull stole black music, and Jews are stealing white girls.

Jason said...

The young Netanyahu will probably go the Kissinger route: date lots of glamorous and pretty goyim, but then finally do the right thing and marry a good Jewish girl (although it must be said that Kissinger's actual 2nd wife - he divorced his first before his famous career became really public - is quite the looker). Of course, the Norweigen blonde might imitate her sister and convert to Judaism, not exactly an uncommon phenomenon for individuals who really do not care about much but keeping up appaerances. (Mitt Romney's wife converted to Mormonism before they married, and that seems to have worked out well.) For most people the heart wants what it wants, and silly things like religious truth simply don't matter.

Anonymous said...

These young Jews live like royalty while Palestinians live like dirt denied even the most basic of human rights.

Jason said...

Anonymous, Palestinians could live like royalty too if they were willing to renounce the Right of Return and terrorism (and probably sovereignty in east Jerusalem, which I admit would be a bitter pill to swallow for them). Enough already with the poor Palestinian bit - if they want to constantly think in Manichean and zero-sum terms (all of Palestine or nothing, now and forever), well fine, I get that, but there are consequences to that attitude and sympathizers to the Palestinian cause do them no favors by failing to point this out to them. Life for Arabs and Palestinians would probably be a lot better for them if they - like most other happy and content and decent individuals -learned to settle for half a loaf in life and not the whole enchilada.

Crawfurdmuir said...

As an old ballad goes -

"For Solomon, more wiser,
Than any dull advisor,
Had many hundred misses,
So why should such as this is,
Make you so sadly vext,
Make you so sadly vext?"

Crawfurdmuir said...

"...politcal leaders of known probity of marital life, so that we might compare and contrast their styles and accomplishments and ideology with the rest of the lot?"

Japanese emperors until Taishō (d. 1926) took concubines, thus enhancing the chances of begetting a male heir. The sickly Taishō did not follow this practice, but fathered four sons with his empress. However, successive generations, which have also eschewed concubinage, have not been so successful in propagating descent in the male line. It was not until 2006 that a male grandchild of the current emperor was born, ensuring the succession for two generations.

The post-war constitution of Japan reduced the size of the imperial house, and because of this together with the legal requirement of a male heir to the throne, the comparatively recent custom of monogamy amongst Japanese royals - whatever their "styles and accomplishments and ideologies" - seems to have worked to jeopardize the survival of the institution.

Anonymous said...

If you're interest in evolutionary direction, then male fertility is more relevant since that's where reproduction is centralized.

Exactly.

I mean, heck, in the USA, is there even a single state which tries to ensure the accuracy of the information on birth certificates?

For that matter, is there even a single state which REQUIRES a father's name on the birth certificate?

It boggles my mind that in this day and age, a definitive determination of a child's biological father [via DNA testing] is not considered to be a "fundamental human right" [akin to e.g. the RKBA].

Dave Pinsen said...

It's not so simple to take government out of the business of defining marriage because marriage has impact on government policies on taxation, inheritance, distribution of assets during divorce, child custody, adoption, immigration, etc. In short, as long as marriage confers government sanctioned rights and responsibilities, the government has to be involved. We haven't seen the full extent of the impact of gay marriage yet.

Dave Pinsen said...

"See what I mean? Which means, Israel doesn't recognize, say, marriages performed in a Church in Israel, or performed by "rogue" Rabbis, etc. Which pretty much does put them in the marriage business, no?"

You sure Christians can't marry each other in churches in Israel? That sounds unlikely.

Dave Pinsen said...

I met a Norwegian woman who converted to Judaism once. She showed up to the local Republican Party headquarters with a swarthy looking fellow during a get out the vote drive. She drove me and a few others around in her SUV while we distributed flyers. It came up in conversation that the swarthy guy was her husband, and that she had converted to Judaism and married him in Israel. I asked how she felt about converting and she said it wasn't a big deal because she wasn't really religious before, and neither were most Norwegians.

Anonymous said...

Who is the mysterious shiksa girlfriend of Israel’s boy king?"
I thought you were joking.. could you imagine ANY christian or gentile 'journal' using such a derogatory term for jews?

Art Deco said...

These young Jews live like royalty while Palestinians live like dirt denied even the most basic of human rights.

No, these Jews live in an affluent and productive country, affluent and productive by dint of its residents' efforts.

The Arabs have ruined their own local economies because their political class is like John Gotti: they do not build businesses, they just shake them down.

The Arabs are not 'denied basic rights' either. They elect to conduct themselves in a manner which requires others rope them off for the safety of those others. If the Arabs want 'basic rights', they can give up their aspiration to dispossess and kill their neighbors and cut a deal with them. No, this will not happen.

Art Deco said...

Note the Jewish "morality" at work:

Choice crowd you hang with, Sailer.

Anonymous said...

Americans would be surprised how many honey-haired, blue-eyed Israelis with only mildly Semitic features there are over there.

That is as may be, but the young Mr. Netanyahu is not a particularly good example.

I think I'm going to start referring to Jews as "impure," "abominations," and maybe "objects of loathing" when I want to sound more formal. It'll all be mock-pejorative, though, and definitely used in a humorous way.

I approve of this product and or service.

Choice crowd you hang with, Sailer.

You'd be better served questioning whether the scare-quotes are reasonable in light of observable trends in Jewish behaviour than sniffing and preening over your presumed moral inferiors.

irishman said...

'denied basic rights'

What, like getting gay married?

Mean Jews!

Whiskey said...

Supposedly Israel has lots of fairly hot young women. I wouldn't know, never been there. Not planning on it either.

However, if you believe the latest DNA research, Ashkenazi Jews are essentially descended from Italian men and ME women. So, yeah a true Berlusconi type of affair would not shock me.

What shocks me is Hollande -- yes he's President but he looks like "the son of Clouseau" without any Peter Sellers charisma if you get my drift. Kind of ridiculous.

The issue of course is that if a powerful man will betray his wife, he'll have even less scruples betraying voters and supporters. That probably would not matter much if the political positions were fairly meaningless to ordinary people -- but decisions about borders, refugees, war, peace, import restrictions and free trade, and much else make that idea a non-starter. Given how inter-connected every nation is to every other.

No Zionist ever thought half of Africa would be clamoring to get into Israel in the early 20th Century. But they are, now.

[Has Israel's women gotten "hotter" with more Russian Jews immigrating there?]

Anonymous said...

Americans would be surprised how many honey-haired, blue-eyed Israelis with only mildly Semitic features there are over there. Their women are quite popular with Scandinavian playboys. They struck me as a different stock than the Jews who emigrated en masse to the US


You must not know many American Jews, because "Semitic" they ain't.

Whyther Jones said...

Whiskey: "Supposedly Israel has lots of fairly hot young women."

Has anybody encountered the hot Israel women in US malls who act like "professional women", trying to con lonely US guys to buy hand and body lotions?

Anonymous said...

There are nine officially recognised Christian communities, and Jewish, Muslim and Druze communities. Marriages in each community are under the jurisdiction of their own religious authorities.

I'm liking this. No silly gay marriage nonsense required. The Ottoman Empire, diversity before diversity!

Anonymous said...

"See what I mean? Which means, Israel doesn't recognize, say, marriages performed in a Church in Israel, or performed by "rogue" Rabbis, etc. Which pretty much does put them in the marriage business, no?"

David Pinsen:"You sure Christians can't marry each other in churches in Israel? That sounds unlikely."

Christians can marry Christians in Israel. Muslims can marry Muslims in Israel. Jews can marry Jews in Israel. However, interfaith marriages (Muslims marrying Christians, Jews marrying Muslims, etc)can only be obtained outside of Israel.

Anonymous said...

@ Whiskey -

It's the opposite. The most recent mitochondrial DNA (female line) and Y chromosome (male line) studies suggest that Ashkenazi Jews are largely descended from Middle Eastern men and southern European women.

Anonymous said...


All the really successful men I know have had multiple women and different kids by different girls.

Certainly hoping this was sarc. Yeah, all those Englewood, Illinois baby daddies are entrepreneurial wizards, the top men in their fields.

rob said...

Robert Anton Wilson, who was my favorite lunatic, wrote The Illuminatus trilogy in 1975 (thanks, Google overlords!). A subplot had the upper echelons of the Nazis living as refugees in Tel Aviv...
But, it's a European holdout in the mideast. Are they going back to the Roman era of high tension with their neighbors and religious zealotry?

Hunsdon said...

Art Deco said: Choice crowd you hang with, Sailer.

Hunsdon said: Thank G-d we have you here to class up the joint.

Hunsdon said...

Whiskey said: What shocks me is Hollande -- yes he's President but he looks like "the son of Clouseau" without any Peter Sellers charisma if you get my drift. Kind of ridiculous.

Hunsdon said: You mean, like a goy Peter Sellers? Kind of ridiculous in that way?

Art Deco said...

Certainly hoping this was sarc.

Your not from around here, are you? Great many goof know-it-alls on this board.

ben tillman said...

Wow, she is not pretty at all. And she could easily pass as Jewish.

Svigor said...

if you believe the latest DNA research, Ashkenazi Jews are essentially descended from Italian men and ME women.

You got it backwards.

You must not know many American Jews, because "Semitic" they ain't.

Au contraire, the Jewish look everyone knows comes precisely from their Semitic blood. Quick example, check out the guy in the dock for laundering drug money with bitcoins recently, Charlie Shrem. He's somewhat more a Semitic/Med type Jew than your typical Ashkenazi, but you can clearly see that familiar look seen in many Ashkenazi Jews. You can see it in many Arabs and other west Asian populations, too.

ogunsiron said...

@Dave Pinsen said
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I asked how she felt about converting and she said it wasn't a big deal because she wasn't really religious before, and neither were most Norwegians
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I thought that converting to judaism was a pretty serious undertaking, ie a big deal.

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@art deco :
It's the type of crowd for which the term "shiksa" may have sounded funny at some point. The type of crowd who may have enjoyed sarah silverman's filthy humour at some point. The type of crowd that eventually changed its mind about such matters.



PC Makes You Stupid said...

Whiskey always gets it wrong. Disinformation is his whole shtick.

Anonymous said...

I knew my comment would draw them out...

"they should learn to settle for half a loaf.."

Even if they got all the west bank back and the Gaza strip that is only 22% of historic Palestine. Hardly "half a loaf".