April 10, 2014

FBI: Boston Bomb Brothers were Putin's fault

Dad and Mom Bomb *
From the New York Times:
Russia Didn’t Share All Details on Boston Bombing Suspect, Report Says 
By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT and ERIC SCHMITT   APRIL 9, 2014

WASHINGTON — The Russian government declined to provide the F.B.I. with information about one of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects that would most likely have led to more extensive scrutiny of him at least two years before the attack, according to an inspector general’s report. 
Russian officials had told the F.B.I. in 2011 that the suspect, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, “was a follower of radical Islam and a strong believer” and that Mr. Tsarnaev “had changed drastically since 2010 as he prepared to leave the United States for travel to the country’s region to join unspecified underground groups.” 
But after an initial investigation by the F.B.I., the Russians declined several requests for additional information about Mr. Tsarnaev, according to the report, a review of how intelligence and law enforcement agencies could have thwarted the bombing. 
At the time, American law enforcement officials believed that Mr. Tsarnaev posed a far greater threat to Russia. 
The new inspector general’s report found that it was only after the bombing occurred last April that the Russians shared with the F.B.I. the additional intelligence, including information from a telephone conversation the Russian authorities had intercepted between Mr. Tsarnaev and his mother in which they discussed Islamic jihad.

Okay. Still, you know, the Russkies did have reasons not to totally trust U.S. intelligence services when it came to the Tsarnaev family.

After all, the Bomb Brothers' Uncle Ruslan used to run a Chechen rebel front organization funneling donations from Al-Qaeda to the fight against Russia out of the house of his (now) ex-father-in-law, retired CIA insider Graham E. Fuller. As I blogged on May 2, 2013:
Uncle Ruslan's org funneled military supplies from Al-Qaeda to Chechen rebels 
One of the big questions left hanging about the Bomb Brothers is how did their useless family get asylum in the U.S. despite going back and forth to the country they supposedly had to flee? Is it just that our overall immigration system is too lax on immigrants?  
That's not a good question for the "immigration reform" marketing push, so you might think an alternative answer would be getting some media love: the Tsarnaevs had rare family connections inside the American deep state that got their asylum application some special string-pulling. 
But that would be a Conspiracy Theory, so we can't dream of that.  
Thus, the only reporter who seems to be following up on the deep state link is Daniel Hopsicker of Mad Cow Morning News. In "‘Uncle Ruslan’ aided terrorists from CIA official’s home," he seems to demonstrate that the Congress of Chechen International Organizations was registered in 1995 by Ruslan Tsarni (the Bomb Brother's father's brother who goes on TV to call them losers) out of the house of his father-in-law Graham Fuller, the former vice chairman of the CIA's National Intelligence Council then working for the RAND Corp.  
And Hopsicker has a copy of a letter suggesting that Uncle Ruslan's NGO played middleman to deliver 2,500 pairs of combat boots to Chechen rebels from the Al-Qaeda front Benevolence International. They went to Sheik Fathi, a Jordanian of Chechen descent, who had spent 10 years fighting in Afghanistan. 
Since the postman would presumably deliver mail for Uncle Ruslan's operation to Mr. Fuller's mailbox, it's hard to imagine that Fuller, a Central Asian expert, was oblivious to the organization's general existence, although it's hard to say how much more deeply he was involved.  
Nor can we say for sure what side Uncle Ruslan was actually on. What Kipling called the Great Game can be played in many ways.
Let me make a general point about Conspiracy Theories, which is that almost nobody takes a reductionist approach to them. The typical Conspiracy Theorist is driven by the urge to put forward as complex, crazy, and omnipotent a conspiracy theory as possible. In contrast, the conventional wisdom is that conspiracies don't exist. 
My impression, in contrast to both perspectives, is that conspiracies happen all the time, but most of them are pretty ineffectual. When all is said and done, more is said than done.  
For example, let's assume for the minute that Fuller was involved in supplying combat boots to Chechen rebels in 1996 as part of a CIA conspiracy that went All the Way to the Top, even though the Clinton Administration was also strongly on the side of Yeltsin's Russian government. Why would the U.S. government do something to hurt its ally? 
Well, one reason is in case the Chechens win, then the CIA would have a connection to the winners. "Hey, we gave you those boots, remember?"  
Or, it gives the U.S. something to trade to the Russians in return for something more valuable. It's quite common for Powers to give a little aid to rebels in a rival country to strengthen their bargaining position. 
   
NISB: National Immigration Safety Board. We need one.

By the way, here's something new on Graham E. Fuller's Wikipedia page:
Hi, I'm probably not doing this right, but I'm Graham E. Fuller, the subject of this Wiki article. Below is the complete list of my pubs, to replace the partial list that you have listed below. I'd like to make a few other corrections at some point as well. Questions were raised on the following: My birth date is 1937, and I was CIA Station Chief in Kabul from 1975-1978. I was never truly an employee of the State Dept, that was official cover. I was a CIA operations officer from 1964 to 1981. I then served as Vice Chairman of the National Intelligence Council at CIA, responsible for all long-range National Estimates until I retired from the CIA in 1987. I was a senior political scientist at RAND from 1988 until 2002.
   
Fuller is credited with coming up with the original idea behind the Iran-Contra whoop-tee-doo. From the New York Times in 1987:
Mr. Fuller, now 49 years old, is retiring from the agency at the end of the year. He prepared a ''think piece'' for William J. Casey, the Director of Central Intelligence, in May 1985 stating that the Soviet Union was in a better position to exert influence in Iran and that the regime of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini was ''faltering.'' 
In his memorandum, Mr. Fuller suggested that Western nations be allowed to sell arms to Iran with a view to gaining influence. 
Those conclusions were also stated in a Government-wide intelligence assessment cited by the Tower Commission and overseen by Mr. Fuller, which was prepared in May 1985 at the request of the National Security Council.

Also, Mr. Fuller was one of the most outspoken figures in the campaign to give refugee status to Imam Gulen of the Poconos. Lattice of coincidence ...
* By the way, if you are wondering whether to marry the hot crazy babe who is a tigress in the sack, take a long look at the this Tsarnaev family photo from the 1980s and then at the top photo on this posting and picture yourself in 25 years as the poor bastard behind the sunglasses without all that good Robert De Pacino hair.
   

56 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is gotta be one of the most hilarious NYT articles. What more did they want from Russians ? And why do they expect any further help from them ? If anything, FBI should be already very grateful to FSB for this info, below. Given the new Cold War, it was already very honorable of Russians to warn FBI. If I were Putin, I would gladly send 10 times more crazy Chechens abroad so that West would understand that Chechens are probably the craziest people of Earth.


" Russian officials had told the F.B.I. in 2011 that the suspect, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, “was a follower of radical Islam and a strong believer” and that Mr. Tsarnaev “had changed drastically since 2010 as he prepared to leave the United States for travel to the country’s region to join unspecified underground groups.”

Anonymous said...

I often heard that of the big 4 Intelligence agencies (FBI, DIA, CIA, NSA) the CIA attracts the more liberal types, maybe because they work closely Hollywood and Colleges... I don't think that a conservative American would be happy it his daughter marrying a Chechen with terrorist connections.

YIH said...

"FBI: Boston Bomb Brothers were Putin's fault"
Something tells me we've heard this story before:
U.S. Officials Created a False Link Between Iraq and 9/11.
Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on you.

Hunsdon said...

The Schmidts wrote: At the time, American law enforcement officials believed that Mr. Tsarnaev posed a far greater threat to Russia.

Hunsdon said: In other words, they hopes to recruit him. Jesus wept.

Anonymous said...

No heads rolled in the FBI after 9/11. No heads rolled after the Fort Hood massacre. Why would anyone expect the US government to owe up to their failures, yet they continue to monitor our emails, track our phone calls and God knows what else they are doing.

Chicago said...

Relying on the supposed expertise of someone like Fuller was probably a mistake. Not only his competence but his objectivity seems questionable. After all he named his own daughter 'Ankara', which indicates he went over to the other side psychologically.

Anonymous said...

So let's give amnesty to 10 million illegal Mexicans since the Mexican government gave us detailed info on all of them.

And Israel sure gives us honest info about Israelis operating in the US.

We love transparency. That's why Edward Snowden was awarded with the Medal of Freedom.

Prof. Woland said...

Don't underestimate how much Russians living in the US or Russian-Americans are embarrassed and deeply ashamed of Tsarnaev. They can be almost gleefully disdainful of Obama, Newland, and the Ukrainians but when you mention Tsarnaev, they simply go silent. One thing you have to remember is that Russians are quite Nationalistic. They like to boast about how they are united by language and common culture and are all together when the chips are down but that is why a family of losers like the Tsarnaev's cannot simply be separated from their national origin. I am sure Putin does not give a shit but this is a lot touchier for Russians who perpetually bellyache about not being able to get a visa or immigrate.

Anonymous said...

I don't want the surviving bomb brother to get the death penalty so he write a book about his family life.

H said...

"If I were Putin, I would gladly send 10 times more crazy Chechens abroad so that West would understand that Chechens are probably the craziest people of Earth."

Coming this summer to theaters near you, Scarface 2, Cubans vs Chechens! How will Castro's Cuban criminals fare against those crazy Chechens?

Anonymous said...

This just appears to be part of the overall shaping of public opinion against Russia. I suppose in the minds of some they are going to link Russia with the Boston Bombing. But the point is the daily grind of demonizing Russia is in full progress.

countenance said...

I fear that a NISB would be filled with the same kind of open borders hacks that fill most of official Washington, D.C.

5371 said...

Hunsdon said: In other words, they hopes to recruit him.

Bingo.

Anonymous said...

Did Israel share its intelligence on the 9/11 hijackers whom the Mossad were clearly tracking?

Did US share its info on Nuland with EU even though she was destabilizing the a key part of Europe for the interests of her tribe?

Chief Seattle said...

Steve, the before and after photos are classic. I laughed out loud. Time the Avenger.

Anonymous said...

Sibel Edmonds came right out and alleged that America and its allies were helping the Chechen jihad in the caucasus and other parts of the former USSR.

The Boston case is probably blowback. US intelligence agencies is to blame, not the Russians. Check out her rogues gallery on her website, Graham Fuller is there. http://www.justacitizen.com/images/Gallery%20Draft2%20for%20Web.htm

jody said...

what can we do but lol.

Toddy Cat said...

If the New York Times had hated Communism half as much as it hates non-Communist Russia today, the Cold War would have ended sometime in 1964.

Anonymous said...

"The typical Conspiracy Theorist is driven by the urge to put forward as complex, crazy, and omnipotent a conspiracy theory as possible."

Justice League Unlimited - The Question

-meh

Anonymous said...

Hunsdon said:

The Schmidts wrote: At the time, American law enforcement officials believed that Mr. Tsarnaev posed a far greater threat to Russia.

In other words, they hopes to recruit him. Jesus wept.


Since the dawn of neo-conservatism we have seen the US/West side with non-white/non-Christian peoples in just about every geopolitical situation. In the past year we saw a large percentage of neo-cons in Congress (Rogers, King, Graham, McCain, Corker, Ayotte, et al.) side with Al Qaeda in Syria who are slaughtering Christians.

The FBI was tipped off to the Tsarnaevs. That should have been more than enough. Is the FSB expected to do the FBI's work for it? The FBI sent out two agents-- who no doubt had little background or interest in Central Asian jihadism-- to interview Tamerlan. Too bad the Tsarnaevs didn't have a few historical artifacts and the FBI would have done an exhaustive investigation and sent a dozen agents to raid their house looking for evidence.

Anonymous said...

As I have stated here and other places many times over:0 muslim legal immigration...0 probabillity of 9/11 occuring...0probability of the earlier bombing of the TWIN TOWERS occuring...and 0 probability of the bombing of the Boston Marathon occuring.

These muslim yut terrorist attacks are a direct consequence of the open and deliberate policy of the Republican-Democratic Party to race-replace The Historic Native Born White American Majority with nonwhite legal immigrant scab labor.

Why do you make the issue more complicated than it is?

Bill Blizzard and his Men

Anonymous said...

Putin to Obama, "Don't go there, buddy!"

Anonymous said...

I'm becoming more convinced that Tsarnaev was put up to this by the CIA.

They are starting to actually use a Chechen bomber bombing Americans as an example of Russia perfidy.

This stinks of CIA and Mossad planning.

Anonymous said...

This is Katyn level disinformation.

The CIA probably put the elder brother up to it.

They expected to twist the story into an antiRussian narrative in due course.

Anonymous said...

And methinks that they did and the bombing is a CIA operation from beginning to end.

It's just that Djokar lived somehow.

Anonymous said...

Pretty funny. Why should the Russians believe the CIA and other intelligence services in the US are anything other organisations filled with clowns?

Don't believe me? Well, check the below link on 9/11 and see what Putin says to Bush (the first 10 minutes):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf3fcoXx0pI

I don't know of any American media outlets that has ever mentioned these facts. Why are Americans kept deliberately ignorant and all we hear from Dems and Repubs are variations of bomb Iran, bomb Iran? (And as a variation on that theme, how evil Putin is supposed to be?)

Putin has no reason to trust Americans with anything. Not because Americans are devious but because they are so stupid.

Anonymous said...

The Boston bomb brothers were the fault of NOT Russia, but our profoundly flawed, deeply dysfunctional immigration-"refugee" system. They should NEVER have been here in the first place.

Anonymous said...

No the FBI isn't blaming Putin they are simply stating facts. It's funny how the blame america first right is always so quick to interpret blame where no blame is suggested.

It's exactly the same attitude that immediately assumes any criticism of Russia is the pretext to intervening in the region. It's also the same attitude that routinely whines about the bear getting poked without ever taking a moment to note that the bear pokes us quite a bit.

Noticing things is anti-Slav I guess. Who/whom indeed.

Anonymous said...

>>With apt prescience, Steve Sailer observed:
"""" * By the way, if you are wondering whether to marry the hot crazy babe who is a tigress in the sack, take a long look at the this Tsarnaev family photo from the 1980s and then at the top photo on this posting and picture yourself in 25 years as the poor bastard behind the sunglasses without all that good Robert De Pacino hair.""""""


Point well taken. The comparison contrast between retro and right now does make one realize that, to use a US contemporary of this 80s retro babe, being Kris Jenner does have its outward benefits.

Kris sure isn't about to go down that well traveled worn out road if she can help it.

Nice to see that Ms. Jenner is a strict adherent to the philosophy of the 90s BBC Britcom "Keeping Up Appearances."

Anonymous said...

Russian Revolution and Feminists.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Women%27s_Day


Feminists and the Reds.

Anonymous said...

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/religious-right-warns-rnc-not-hold-2016-convention-las-vegas

LOL

Anonymous said...

He is Chechen.

Hunsdon said...

Anonydroid at 11:30 AM said: It's exactly the same attitude that immediately assumes any criticism of Russia is the pretext to intervening in the region. It's also the same attitude that routinely whines about the bear getting poked without ever taking a moment to note that the bear pokes us quite a bit.

Hunsdon said: Actually, it was when Nuland was handing out cookies that I began to really worry about US intervention in the region.

Was I wrong?

About the whole "bear poking us" thing. Got an example? Do please engage.

Whiskey said...

Steve, that bit about the tigress in the sack, gold! You made my day!

Anonymous said...

America did not place severe restrictions on Muslim immigration after 9/11. After every Muslim terrorist attack the lib media will never question America's foolish immigration policy. They will distract attention by blaming white supremacists.

Anonymous said...

The NYT is blame gaming though.

Anonymous said...

It's worth noting that feminism and communism and the Russian revolution are heavily interconnected. International Wymminz Day was organized by communists and was used as a front.

"23 February (8th March) was International Woman’s Day and meetings and actions were foreseen. But we did not imagine that this ‘Women’s Day’ would inaugurate the revolution. Revolutionary actions were foreseen but without date. But in morning, despite the orders to the contrary, textile workers left their work in several factories and sent delegates to ask for support of the strike… which led to mass strike... all went out into the streets." Trotsky.

Anonymous said...

OT, re: Sailer Strategy: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/04/demographics_conservatism_and_racial_polarization_could_america_become_mississippi.html

Must suck to write these things for free, then see a guy named "Jamelle" get paid big bucks by slate for writing the same things.

Ed said...

OT: The Natives are getting restless over at the NY Times. Check out the top rated comments after this immigration story. Seems to be a trend. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/11/us/poverty-and-violence-push-new-wave-of-migrants-toward-us.html?hp&_r=0

Anonymous said...

The husband didn't aged that badly. The Mrs. - hoo boy.

And the wide-eyed cherubic baby fared the worst.

Only Keith Richards ages well
(Start ugly and do lots of drugs and be rich.)

Hunsdon said...

Anonydroid at 11:30 AM said: It's also the same attitude that routinely whines about the bear getting poked without ever taking a moment to note that the bear pokes us quite a bit.

Hunsdon quotes Giraldi: McFaul writes that “We did not seek this confrontation [with Russia over Ukraine].” He then elaborates, “A revisionist autocratic leader instigated this new confrontation. We did not.” Really? Then the actions undertaken by successive U.S. presidents to deliberately advance NATO into Eastern Europe in spite of pledges not to do so did not occur? Or the $5 billion worth of “investing” or meddling by Ms. Nuland and company in Ukraine, most recently to remove an elected government and replace it with something more to Washington’s taste did not take place? Or the introduction of new missile systems into Eastern Europe was not a provocation? Or the encouragement of the rape of the Russian economy by American and European “entrepreneurs” aided by domestic oligarchs after the fall of the Soviet Union in a rush to create a capitalist economy is a fantasy? I could go on, but it think the point is made that Russia had and has very good reasons to fear an aggressive and frequently out of control United States.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/obamas-circle-of-bad-advice/

Hunsdon said...

Anonydroid at 11:30 AM said: It's funny how the blame america first right is always so quick to interpret blame where no blame is suggested.

Hunsdon said: Actually, the usual charge against me is that I blame Jews first, not that I blame America first. Or did you have someone else in mind?

PS: The IG's report is exculpatory, i.e., excusing the FBI from responsibility, and . . . laying it at someone else's feet.

To quote the Schmidts again: “They found that the Russians did not provide all the information that they had on him back then, and based on everything that was available the F.B.I. did all that it could,” said a senior American official briefed on the review.

TomV said...

"without ever taking a moment to note that the bear pokes us quite a bit."

Does "us" extend to the Black Sea now?

Damn neocons.

Anonymous said...

What's interesting about this picture is that the young Mrs. Tsarnaev ("the hot crazy babe who is a tigress in the sack")looks pretty much like a prettier version of Joan Jett while the young Mr. Tsarnaev looks like a reasonably good Robert De Niro impersonator. In short, they look like a couple of young westerners from the 1980s.

So when did the switch to the whole Islamic garb and attitude take place?

It really does confirm the claim that Islam is on the rise...

Anonymous said...

Joan Jett is still attractive today. Mrs T not much.

So does Islam make you ugly?

That may be an effective way to stop young Westerners converting to Islam (at least the fanatic versions). After all, it wasn't lung cancer or early death which dissuaded American kids from picking up smoking; it was the bad breath and stink.

Kibernetika said...

Steve rhymes with naiive, though. No offense :)

The Boston Bomber attacks were the fault of the US, because the US doesn't care about who is within its borders.

Svigor said...

As I have stated here and other places many times over:0 muslim legal immigration...0 probabillity of 9/11 occuring...0probability of the earlier bombing of the TWIN TOWERS occuring...and 0 probability of the bombing of the Boston Marathon occuring.

Yup. The US gov't failed to enact reasonable immigration policies, in particular with regard to terrorism-exporting countries, and as a result we got 9/11. Which was a fairly symmetrical outcome, given Manhattanites are (or, were) probably in the top 3 of American cities in terms of cheering on immigration from places like the Middle East.

They probably thought the muzzy ingrates should have blown up some of those racist crackers in flyover country instead.

Bush relaxed immigration laws vis-a-vis terrorism-exporting countries before 9/11, and the NYT & co. kissed his ass for it. They never gave him any grief afterward. Instead, they treated it like a state secret. The clear message here is that 3,000+ Manhattanite souls are a small price to pay to appease their Open Borders Moloch.

Now we're supposed to get mad at the Russians for doing a better job of protecting our country from terrorist immigrants than our own security services do? It is to laff.

Idle Spectator said...

"By the way, if you are wondering whether to marry the hot crazy babe who is a tigress in the sack, take a long look at the this Tsarnaev family photo from the 1980s and then at the top photo on this posting and picture yourself in 25 years as the poor bastard behind the sunglasses without all that good Robert De Pacino hair."

Stick to dispensing "wisdom" on politics and the economy rather than dating. Because, in the end, a person is going to tie the knot to whomever they please regardless of your "concern".

Hunsdon said...

Kibernetika said: The Boston Bomber attacks were the fault of the US, because the US doesn't care about who is within its borders.

Hunsdon said: And you prefaced this with "Steve rhymes with naive"? "Who we let into the country" is one of our host's favorite themes.

Idle Spectator said: Stick to dispensing "wisdom" on politics and the economy rather than dating.

Hunsdon said: You're funnier at Vox's.

Hunsdon said...

The Schmidts wrote: At the time, American law enforcement officials believed that Mr. Tsarnaev posed a far greater threat to Russia.

Hunsdon said: I've got to come back to this. Implicit in the statement "Tsarnaev posed a far greater threat to Russia" is the ass end of the comparison: "than he did to America." But that in turn implies that American law enforcement officials believed that Mr. Tsarnaev posed a threat to America.

(Yes, some of us will say: Chechens gonna Chechen, but . . . . )

Anonymous said...

"Dad"? Isn't that Denniss Hopper in the dark sunglasses?

Anonymous said...

""""Dad"? Isn't that Denniss Hopper in the dark sunglasses?"""""


Nah, it's just Ringo Starr.

Mr. Anon said...

Always get a look at her mom before you tie that knot.

Anonymous said...

Shouldn't we blame the Tsar for not informing Anglo-Americans of the radical and subversive nature of Jewish immigrants?

That way, Anglo-Americans would have been far more careful about allowing in Jewish immigrants from the Pale of Settlement who pretty much wrecked white America.

And Russia should blame America for not sharing info as to the true nature of people like Marc Rich and Jeffry Sachs. The rape of Russia, that is true gangster-terrorism.

Anonymous said...

Can I get some marrige advice please?

If I can't marry some hot chick who is a tigress in bed, who should I marry?

Do they all turn into bony, scrawny screeching fanatics in 25 yeard? What about slightly chubby airhead chicks who just want to cuddle? Are they a safer choice?

Please help!


Anonymous said...

The marathon bombing is a joke. We have lost entire neighborhoods and cities permanently to the re-conquistadors. This family of literal Caucasian terrorists brought in to humiliate our people is just a sideshow. Are the Russians to blame for that also? Well, some might be.