tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post1044570806760052330..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Obama's AmnestyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger130125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80745229442464056742012-06-18T07:59:54.848-07:002012-06-18T07:59:54.848-07:00Anonymous 3:07 said:
"so how many A-list Hol...Anonymous 3:07 said:<br /><br /><i>"so how many A-list Hollywood stars are native Angelinos? Name names please"</i><br /><br />To reiterate, what's my incentive to explain this to you, bad-faith blog jerkoff? Not my business to furnish free Wikipedia research, sorry. btw around here it's spelled "Angeleno" hehehAlcalde Jaime Miguel Curleohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11801154986193443160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9953560933191284432012-06-17T21:36:34.992-07:002012-06-17T21:36:34.992-07:00"That being said, they are still more intelli...<i>"That being said, they are still more intelligent and hard working than the average Hispanic, so in the US perhaps only the first generation would be common laborers. After that, it would be competition with the elites."</i><br /><br />And <i>that,</i>Jody, is why you can't bring in unlimited Chinese nationals. The elite isn't interested in bringing in any competition for <i> their</i> livelihoods, just everyone else's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30867492408531386512012-06-17T20:29:09.955-07:002012-06-17T20:29:09.955-07:00Obama is far from radical. This 'amnesty' ...<i>Obama is far from radical. This 'amnesty' plan is essentially the same one as was proposed by Republican darling Marco Rubio, a leading candidate for VP under Romney.</i><br /><br />Yeah, what's with Cuban Republicans being so RABIDLY pro-immigration (of any type)? I thought Cubans weren't Mexicans...corvinusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85455114850811667822012-06-17T18:31:46.097-07:002012-06-17T18:31:46.097-07:00Why are you so obsessed with white people, Yan She...Why are you so obsessed with white people, Yan Shen?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28572267008822114352012-06-17T18:19:29.375-07:002012-06-17T18:19:29.375-07:00Interestingly, the Wall Street Journal has an onli...<i>Interestingly, the Wall Street Journal has an online readers poll of whether you approved or disapproved of the quasi amnesty. 80% disapproved according to approximately 5,000 who have voted so far. It surprised me. Aren't the peope who regularly read the WSJ the eletists of whom you speak?</i><br /><br />Okay, so 80% of the random rightwing commenters on the WSJ website don't support Obama's "amnesty"---I'm absolutely sure that Romney's fund-raisers must be frantically urging him to take the same position.<br /><br />Meanwhile, back in the real world, the morning newspapers mentioned that the Koch brothers and their friends are planning to put $300M into the national Republican campaign, while Adelson the Casino Guy is personally going to spend $100M on Romney's effort. And as everyone knows, the Koch circle and Adelson are both very pro-immigration. So we're talking at least $400M on one side and (maybe) $400.00 on the other. Really tough call for Romney. Don't forget that politics in America these days is one-dollar, one-vote.<br /><br />Some of the commenters here say such silly things I sometimes think they must be faking it...RKUnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6148976452558738762012-06-17T16:27:15.801-07:002012-06-17T16:27:15.801-07:00"Lots of Catholic pop culture giants by the l...<i>"Lots of Catholic pop culture giants by the late 1950s: Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra, John Ford, Frank Capra, Babe Ruth, etc. Not many scientists, though."</i><br /><br />My (somewhat informed) impression is that up until about 30 years ago the smart sons of staunch Catholic families went into the priesthood, of course, and secondly into law. Careers in research science were way down the list. Another consideration is that military and engineering careers, which were looked on with definite favour by almost all Catholics, absorbed many smart young men who could have easily become research scientists. Michael Collins, the Apollo 11 command module pilot ("the loneliest man in history") comes to mind.<br /><br />Many of the oldest law schools are Catholic, often Jesuit. Georgetown in Washington, D.C., Santa Clara in silicon valley, Boston College, various Loyola's, for example. Catholic universities a hundred years ago clearly considered graduate law schools important, of first stature, and hard-science grad schools of lesser importance. So lots of bright young men went into law. Patrick Moynihan himself is an example, of course.<br /><br />It is probably hard for people today to understand how much bright young Catholics 50 years ago were encouraged to go to Catholic schools and "stick with the program". I think when educrats studied aptitude for science and ability (a big deal back in Sputnik days), no real difference was found between Catholic and Protestant undergraduates).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-89775908895341896522012-06-17T12:33:48.618-07:002012-06-17T12:33:48.618-07:00I think it's official now: by passing amnesty ...I think it's official now: by passing amnesty for illegal immigrants, Obama has become the consummate Reagan Republican.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31274064384775246232012-06-17T12:01:05.898-07:002012-06-17T12:01:05.898-07:00I keep hearing that the children are innocent so t...I keep hearing that the children are innocent so they should not be punished. Let me see if I truly understand this moral principle.<br /><br />Let's say I steal a car. Later my son inherits this car from me. But since he wasn't involved in the original theft, it's now unfair to take it from him and rerturn it to the real owner?<br /><br />AlbertosaurusPat Boylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13477950851915567863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51094705059470219162012-06-17T11:59:39.170-07:002012-06-17T11:59:39.170-07:00"Lots of Catholic pop culture giants by the l...<i>"Lots of Catholic pop culture giants by the late 1950s: Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra, John Ford, Frank Capra, Babe Ruth, etc. Not many scientists, though."</i><br /><br />I wondered if all the clever-clogs had migrated to England, but again the list of top-level Catholic achievement in the UK is heavily biased towards entertainment, with a minor in literature. <br /><br />And the only Irishman to win a science Nobel, Ernest Walton, was the son of a Methodist minister.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48468283003188405292012-06-17T11:46:02.546-07:002012-06-17T11:46:02.546-07:00"Right now, Romney's in top-fund-raising ..."Right now, Romney's in top-fund-raising mode, trying to round up a billion dollars or so from all the richest Republicans. And I'd guess that those folks are about 95% pro-immigration and think Obama's amnesty is one of the best things he's done."<br /><br />Interestingly, the Wall Street Journal has an online readers poll of whether you approved or disapproved of the quasi amnesty. 80% disapproved according to approximately 5,000 who have voted so far. It surprised me. Aren't the peope who regularly read the WSJ the eletists of whom you speak? I am not sure what to make of it. Are they a out of work low level Wall Street minions who fear the competition? I dunno. Perhaps one of the posters has an idea.<br /><br /><br />Also I went to the Mother Jones site where a discussion was taking place on the issue and noted, by rough estimate, that at least 50% of this liberal magazine's readers seemed to be against it. Maybe Mother Jones has a populist bent, but I still thought the comments would be more approving.<br /><br />I wonder if there is a sympathy fatigue, given the high levels of continuing unemployment, that has set in.<br /><br />I agree that it's possible that Romeny won't rescind it if he is elected thereby making it a stealth amensty of sorts. But I am sure he will be asked if he will rescind it before the election, so it will be interesting to see how he handles the question.<br /><br />Also, I wonder about the legality. Can a president just decide not to enforce some law he does not agree with. What about insider trading, or anti-trust law, murder, etc ... the possibilities are endless,no? Not sure how this is descretionary while other instances would not be. Perhhaps someone can explain if it has any legal footing and why.<br /><br />First gay marriage and now this. I wonder what else O has in store before the election. It will be interesting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26253181764426598272012-06-17T11:41:54.485-07:002012-06-17T11:41:54.485-07:00"I definitely live in Charles Murray upper cl...<i>"I definitely live in Charles Murray upper class bubble. To tell you the truth low-class prole whites are almost as alien to me as Central American peasants. I went to school and work with tons of the educated upper-class from other nations, and I have far more in common with them than I do with the native under-class of my own country."</i> <br /><br /><br /><br />I've spent half a century living all over the US. When I hear something like this my reaction is "this guy must be a newcomer to this country, really young, or has somehow led a very isolated life." It's as if what they know about the US is from repeated stories from parents, family, and relatives, or perhaps literature, and these stories really are about how it was "back in the old country", not the US. They presume the US is the same as wherever. It's all just words and the words don't match the historical American reality. There is a problem here; it's to get people to know the reality they live in and not just blindly repeat old stories about "how bad it was/is". You tell the truth. The White US population is alien to you.<br /><br />One of the main points of <i>"The Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American Life"</i> (given much space and attention, as per the title) is that the US--the old America--did not have a pronounced class structure because IQ was more-or-less evenly distributed throughout the population. There wasn't a concentrated cognitive elite, mating and concentrating wealth and power among themselves, who could be identified apart from "Americans". At the core this was a simple mathematical argument. The number of high IQ folks that attended the places that granted the "trappings" of the cognitive elite (the Ivy Leagues, government, etc.) were vastly outnumbered by a population with a mean IQ of 100. Given the numbers and the bell curve statistics, there were more high IQ people, as a whole, in the general population than in the elite institutions. This meant things like distributed democratic institutions worked well.<br /><br />The Bell Curve makes the point that many of these high IQ people were housewives scattered throughout the land. This likely had a significant effect on the culture of the country. Civil institutions were solid.<br /><br />One of the issues many people have with the current direction of the country is that it may be going the direction of those old world places where it was bad. A random flip though The Bell Curve finds <i>"The Emerging White Underclass"</i> on p.520. A random quote:<br /><br /><i>"In the past, whites have not had an "underclass" as such, because the whites who might qualify have been too scattered among the working class. ... An underclass needs a critical mass, and white America has not had one."</i><br /><br />The authors make the case that white illegitimacy is highest amoung low IQ women and that government policy supporting concentrations of such single mothers is a factor likely to lead to a white underclass in the US.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2498398009549240322012-06-17T08:30:58.804-07:002012-06-17T08:30:58.804-07:00"why can't chinese people just come here ...<i>"why can't chinese people just come here at will? they are smarter than mexicans, work harder than mexicans, and will work for less money than mexicans."</i><br /><br />I've had extensive experience interacting with Chinese, both the more sophisticated ones from Taiwan and large Chinese cities and the unworldly ones from small villages. I actually often prefer their company to that of any other race, including whites. My personal preference aside, however, I would not want them to enter the States in any large numbers. In fact, I think the number of them here now is way too large. <br /><br /><i>"if i'm an employer, why can't i just bring in chinese peasants to undercut my competitors and their mexicans?"</i><br /><br />It's called "the thin end of the wedge", that's why. In other words, today the peasants; tomorrow the elites. <br /><br />Any clearer now?<br /><br /><i>"my chinese guys will beat their mexicans in a capitalist competition."</i><br /><br />Yes, and they'll move on to beat white Americans, by hook or by crook.Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88503004806672478152012-06-17T07:23:44.798-07:002012-06-17T07:23:44.798-07:00why do we need ANYONE to come here... and you orie...why do we need ANYONE to come here... and you oriental-fetishests - do you really think they are coming here to hold hands and sing songs about diversity.. do you think if they gain the upper hand they are going to be your bestest buddies for life??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54761976264210883902012-06-17T06:18:22.873-07:002012-06-17T06:18:22.873-07:00"...then, at least, you end up with 500,000 c..."...then, at least, you end up with 500,000 chinese people in the US who committ less crime than mexicans, take less government handouts than mexicans, get no affirmative action like mexicans, and most of their kids will actually graduate from high school and go on to get some kind of college degree."<br /><br />- If you don't think the Chinese will game the system, then you don't know the Chinese very well. You think Hispanics figure out about food stamps and free hospital care, Chinese proles would come up with ways to extract every penny from under every government sofa seat in the entire US. Not to mention the fact that like other minorities, they feel no shame in operating under the principle of what's best for them, regardless of fairness, equal opportunity etc.<br /><br />That being said, they are still more intelligent and hard working than the average Hispanic, so in the US perhaps only the first generation would be common laborers. After that, it would be competition with the elites.Commander Xaviernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9753161006300575502012-06-17T06:07:58.255-07:002012-06-17T06:07:58.255-07:00"'In what way is this the least bit cost ..."'In what way is this the least bit cost saving? Reduced cost of police to bring them in and deport them?'<br /><br /> Enforcing immigration law on businesses could bring in a lot of revenue via fines. To say nothing of the potential revenue from really ratcheting up the fines via new legislation."<br /><br />- If you feel this way, then why would you be in disagreement with the first statement? If enforcing immigration law brings in $ then reducing enforcement would reduce $ brought in.Garrettnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52918079562551365882012-06-17T06:04:53.549-07:002012-06-17T06:04:53.549-07:00"Obama is far from radical. This 'amnesty..."Obama is far from radical. This 'amnesty' plan is essentially the same one as was proposed by Republican darling Marco Rubio, a leading candidate for VP under Romney. "<br /><br />-Be that as it may, Obama is still a radical for a wide number of executive actions. Even in regards to this amnesty, what he has done has stepped beyond the limits of what an executive can do and acted as a radical. An executive simply cannot choose to honestly not enforce an entire law. Basically he's claiming to do so pretending prescutorial discretion. John Yoo has an excellent column on this at NRO. This sets executive fiat into motion in a way not seen in the US since the time of monarchs. It gives him the power to do vastly more of whatever he wants simply because he disagrees with a law. In essence, I don't like it, so it won't be enforced.Studio 3Fnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75302699261070623432012-06-17T03:07:33.645-07:002012-06-17T03:07:33.645-07:00@Norville Rogers
"I thought it could be lead...@Norville Rogers<br /><br />"I thought it could be leading to a real point (about movie biz circa 2012) till you cited your stunning evidence: "Humphrey Bogard" etc., though you failed to throw in Roman Polanski and Jackie Chan while you were at it.<br /><br />Since you don't know what you're talking about, and aggressively so, it would only be futile to explain how film talent is overwhelmingly drawn from So. California, whether actors, writers, or AWOL executives in their black Mercedes sedans somewhere up the Cabrillo Highway. Locals also dominated jobs in front of the camera during the industry's formative era."<br /><br /> Ok, so how many A-list Hollywood stars are native Angelinos? Name names please.<br /><br /> Also, the fact that there were more Angelinos working in Hollywood in the past doesen't mean much since they were white people, and it is easier to because a film star in a country where whites own most of the wealth if you are also white. Duh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61132553290324058852012-06-17T01:26:22.251-07:002012-06-17T01:26:22.251-07:00"MQ said...
witness Romney's distinct la..."MQ said...<br /><br />witness Romney's distinct lack of any full-throated criticism of this immigration plan)."<br /><br />I predict that should Romney win - a win which would in part be due to Obama's amnesty by executive diktat - he will do nothing to undo it.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3253538970682547402012-06-17T01:02:48.318-07:002012-06-17T01:02:48.318-07:00"every year, i will bring in 100,000 han chin..."every year, i will bring in 100,000 han chinese peasants with an IQ of 100, have them work 12 hour days, pay them 5 dollars an hour, and run my mexican-employing competitors out of business in 5 years time."<br /><br />Import the excess chinese men, they would not cause any trouble, and won't be competition for local women.<br /><br />Whiskey approved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17336998727038216552012-06-17T00:06:46.245-07:002012-06-17T00:06:46.245-07:00The American people are reminded occasionally that...<i> The American people are reminded occasionally that they elected a radical to office. </i><br /><br />Obama is far from radical. This 'amnesty' plan is essentially the same one as was proposed by Republican darling Marco Rubio, a leading candidate for VP under Romney. Obamacare is structurally pretty similar to what Romney did in Massachusetts. Most of Obama's major policies, from the auto bailout to the stimulus to an Afghan 'surge', echo stuff Bush did. Obama is in many ways just the liberal end of bipartisan 'centrist' conventional wisdom. (Although that 'centrist' conventional wisdom is breaking down under pressure and more radical forces are emerging, they still are not very powerful -- witness Romney's distinct lack of any full-throated criticism of this immigration plan).MQnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3552392625202525072012-06-17T00:03:56.199-07:002012-06-17T00:03:56.199-07:00one thing they can never explain is why this is ok...one thing they can never explain is why this is ok for mexicans, but never for anybody else.<br /><br />why can't chinese people just come here at will? they are smarter than mexicans, work harder than mexicans, and will work for less money than mexicans. if i'm an employer, why can't i just bring in chinese peasants to undercut my competitors and their mexicans? my chinese guys will beat their mexicans in a capitalist competition.<br /><br />every year, i will bring in 100,000 han chinese peasants with an IQ of 100, have them work 12 hour days, pay them 5 dollars an hour, and run my mexican-employing competitors out of business in 5 years time.<br /><br />then, at least, you end up with 500,000 chinese people in the US who committ less crime than mexicans, take less government handouts than mexicans, get no affirmative action like mexicans, and most of their kids will actually graduate from high school and go on to get some kind of college degree.<br /><br />yet it i tried to do any of that, the obama administration would stop me. not very consistent application of the law, and of course it's not. what obama is doing is flagrantly illegal.jodynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82981287011012198082012-06-16T23:55:43.468-07:002012-06-16T23:55:43.468-07:00Actually the whole problem is this nouveau obsessi...Actually the whole problem is this <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/06/16/is-meritocracy-un-american-chris-hayes-says-system-is-hurting-u-s.html" rel="nofollow">nouveau obsession with 'meritocracy'</a> which is incidentally racist--yeah, that's the ticketjournalistical MSNBC hostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40246882128050620702012-06-16T23:48:27.573-07:002012-06-16T23:48:27.573-07:00Meanwhile, in Japan...
From David Piling's Lu...Meanwhile, in Japan...<br /><br />From David Piling's Lunch with the FT <a href="http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/3/56ba9704-b916-11dc-bb66-0000779fd2ac.html#axzz1xyRpjFbz" rel="nofollow">interview</a> with Japanese Internet billionaire Hiroshi Mikitani:<br /><br /><i>“Japan is so pleasant. There’s no crime. The food is great. Everything is getting so cheap. You don’t need to learn another language,” he says, spreading his arms in metaphorical acknowledgement of the comfortable lifestyle the Japanese have created. “My point is: this is very pleasant long-term decline.”<br /><br />[...]<br /><br />“We need to be more fluid. Keeping extremely expensive older people when there are lots of very competent, capable young people, this as a system is wrong.” He drains his coffee.<br /><br />He’s not pessimistic, he assures me. With better English, more flexible labour laws, relaxed immigration policies and more investment in science, Japan can bounce back. “We need to fix just a couple of simple things and we’ll have a bright future.”</i>DaveinHackensackhttp://www.thehackensack.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38065739092630733622012-06-16T22:22:54.263-07:002012-06-16T22:22:54.263-07:00This does not even show up in the U.S. subsection ...This does not even show up in the U.S. subsection of Google News any more.<br /><br />Just, wow. This is the worst case of elite collusion against the US middle class I've ever seen.DoJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20854687494186810912012-06-16T22:00:28.433-07:002012-06-16T22:00:28.433-07:00I find my Burundian house cleaner to be more consc...I find my Burundian house cleaner to be more conscientious and economical than any of those demanding Central Americans. But she's starting to cough a lot and her AZT supply is running out. Does anyone know when Obamacare kicks in?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com