tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post117368511546443463..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Sailer on ObamaUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger73125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1175280629283596682007-03-30T12:50:00.000-07:002007-03-30T12:50:00.000-07:00well, Obama has an identity conundrum to solve but...well, Obama has an identity conundrum to solve but i guess i have the answers to his problems............. read this article titled<BR/><BR/> Why Barack Obama should deliver subliminal messages through 50 cents's song?<BR/><BR/>here is the link :http://globe-write.blogspot.com/2007/02/why-barack-obama-should-deliver.htmlPulkithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802942201900970283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1174093358541336142007-03-16T19:02:00.000-07:002007-03-16T19:02:00.000-07:00Interestingly, an analgous type of study propsed b...Interestingly, an analgous type of study propsed by the zit -faced teenager udolpho might have already been performed. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Check General Relativity expert Sean Carrol's blog. Check out his Cult of Genious post. You can get the link to this post through recent Field medal winner Terrence Tao's blog.<BR/><BR/>Also check out a recent-sometime this past year-Sci American article on practicing/traing technique and high level of adeptness and skill in art/music and the sciences.<BR/><BR/>JupiterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1174070489472838952007-03-16T12:41:00.000-07:002007-03-16T12:41:00.000-07:00udolphoTeenage acne.What a bummer. Go see your ped...udolpho<BR/><BR/>Teenage acne.What a bummer. Go see your pediatrician.<BR/><BR/>JupiterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1174067892336036672007-03-16T11:58:00.000-07:002007-03-16T11:58:00.000-07:00So now we know that Jupiter took an IQ test in the...So now we know that Jupiter took an IQ test in the 4th grade and scored appallingly low. I encourage him to put together a research foundation employing only people who "don't test well", scored below 100 on the Stanford-Binet, and are the offspring of imbeciles. Great findings sure to come.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1174067113251598262007-03-16T11:45:00.000-07:002007-03-16T11:45:00.000-07:00I noted a sentence in Steves full Obama article th...I noted a sentence in Steves full Obama article that seems awfully relevant:Steve says the Obama mama moved to Indonesia,married an Inonesian( I dont even know what an Indonesian is?! Like Chinese or something??),divorced him,and then sent Obammy PACKING!! She stays in Indonesia-he goes back to Grandpa! This guy has gotten rejection from everybody! First his Afro-dad. Then his mother rejects African men,and marries an...Indonesian. He is a pig,so she dumps him,but then she rejects Obama,sending him away. Maybe thats why he is so intent on creating this fake "relationship" with his father--and his tribe. What a contrast to Tiger Woods,for example,a guy who's devoted to his mom,--and she to him--and has the (golf)balls to be multi-racial,cuz he wouldnt reject her heritage. Ive got a feeling Obama could spend a lot of couch time talking about not only his nutty dad,but his bizarro mother,too!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1174064773547598132007-03-16T11:06:00.000-07:002007-03-16T11:06:00.000-07:00Very god repsonse Charles.I can see why you think ...Very god repsonse Charles.<BR/><BR/>I can see why you think why I am more dogmatic than Steve. I should have explained my position clearer.<BR/><BR/>I can not think of any apriori reason why there couldn't be differences in IQ due to genes. It is not an incoherernt point of view.<BR/><BR/>However, one can't deduce very much from this either.<BR/><BR/>I also beleive that a very strong moral argument can be made that the oursuit of certain kinds of knowledge is legitmate.<BR/><BR/>I think it is really outrageous and appalling to tell any kid of any race that:hey look kid, remeber that 40 minute IQ exam you took in fourth grade..well based upon the score you received we have determind that you are a fucking dummie...oh what's that you want to build the first Topological Quantum Computer and you read popular books on quantum mechanics and you think hilbert space and quantum entanglement are cool...to bad...off to the uninspiring academic track we haven't got the resources to indulge your delusional interests.(WE will invest America's scarce resources into developing China's scientific talent right within America's borders at American taxpayers expense)<BR/><BR/><BR/>It is utterly shallow "science" pursued by trivial minds. And the agenda right below the surface is a reactionary econmic agenda.<BR/><BR/>The above has been going on for a long time<BR/><BR/>warm regards<BR/>JupiterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1174062868888216702007-03-16T10:34:00.000-07:002007-03-16T10:34:00.000-07:00Jupes,I'm actually sympathetic to your disaffectio...Jupes,<BR/><BR/>I'm actually sympathetic to your disaffection with an overly gene-centric view of human biology, but the given the science of genetics is still in its mere infancy, such a reductionist approach is only to be expected.<BR/><BR/>As for the question of the genetic basis of ethnic differences in IQ, I think you're more guilty than Steve of being dogmatic. There are good empirical reasons to think that these differences are largely to be explained in terms of genetics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1173995448402220542007-03-15T15:50:00.000-07:002007-03-15T15:50:00.000-07:00apparently he had over 400 dollars worth of parkin...apparently he had over 400 dollars worth of parking tickets at harvard from 1988 to 1990 that he never paid, and now that he wants to be president, he went back to harvard and paid them this month.<BR/><BR/>how did he even graduate? don't they usually have a big problem giving diplomas to people who owe fines and fees?<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/2z5fd3<BR/><BR/>this is mostly trivial, but it does show that he'll obey the law when it suits him. of course, as president, he'll be quick to tell people to obey his laws.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1173988732344471232007-03-15T13:58:00.000-07:002007-03-15T13:58:00.000-07:00My attack on the IQ/race/gene research comes from ...My attack on the IQ/race/gene research comes from a theoretical conceptual level.<BR/><BR/>The cutting edge of biological is starting to shift very dramatically away from gentic reductionism.<BR/><BR/>One of the big reasons that genetic determinisms holds a streangle hold on research is ...$$$$$$$$$$$..lots of it from corporations. From the pespectinve of a money grubing CEO or a venture capitaist it all seems so simple...find the gene get the protien make the drug...big big $$$$$$$$$$$$$. This is the reality of a lot of genetic and biochemistry reerch.<BR/><BR/>However, the tide is changing.<BR/><BR/>This can be seen in several articles over thepast three years in Sci America and Discover. <BR/><BR/>The fundamental dogma has taken a big hit. Thee are huge conferences on epigetnics and molecular networks.<BR/>There is a growing recognition that the code for phenotypes is much less localized than previously thought. There are higher level structure and processess throughout the cell(s) and body interacting in ways not well understand.<BR/><BR/>You would never know anything about this if you just read Steve Sailers and Peter Brimelows vdare.com columns.<BR/><BR/>Steve Sailer and Peter Brimelow are into IQ and genes "science" because they are economic reactionaries who have spent most of their life worshipping the corporation.<BR/><BR/>They want to use science to justify gross economic inequality. Gross economic inequality is not a scientific question. It is a political and moral question.<BR/><BR/>Bell Curve "science" is really quite trivial.<BR/><BR/>Also, not all knowlege is good for its own sake.<BR/><BR/>In a civilized society, there is a very strong moral imperative that should be placed upon scientists that the knowledge gained in the course of scientific research not be used to harm another group of human beings.<BR/><BR/>Bell Curve/genetic reductionism research is utterly trivial. Why would anyone with deep scientific interests and talent want to make a career of it is amystery to me.<BR/><BR/>The real interest in this stuff is 100 percent motivated by a reactionary economic agenda.<BR/><BR/>The case for restricting non-white immigration to America does not depend upon pushing BellCurve/IQgenetic reductionism research.<BR/><BR/>I'm sure I'm not the only vdare.com reader who is disgusted by the one sided slant about this stuff on vdare.com<BR/><BR/>Steve Sailer has written the best stuff there is on immigation. I recognize that. I wish he would develope some of this in much greater detail on vdare.com<BR/><BR/>However,Sailer,Murray and Brimelow are also shallow, mad calibrators. The stuff they are intertsted in has 0 scientific depth. <BR/><BR/>This is a brief summary of my views in this issue.<BR/><BR/>Barack Obama is the mortal enemy of European Christian America. So is the Republican party. So is the Democratic party.<BR/><BR/>JupiterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1173986262852601802007-03-15T13:17:00.000-07:002007-03-15T13:17:00.000-07:00CharlesI am willing to debate this issue fully in ...Charles<BR/><BR/>I am willing to debate this issue fully in a thread dedicated to the topic. I don't want to sidetrack the this thread away from Obama Baracks genocidal intentions towards European Americans.<BR/><BR/>For now I'll just toss a few things out.<BR/><BR/>Brad Delong-who I don't like- knows a lot about multiplwe regresson analysis has accused Murray and Herstien of massive intellectual dishonesty. Delong accuses Murray and Herstien of supressing educational effects. He made this charge recently.<BR/><BR/>Also a new study has come out by a well known psychologist-first name Sheryll,last name starts with a T,Turk something, I'll look up her name-showing that Differences between Whites and blacks in IQ score can be atributed to enviromental effects.<BR/><BR/>There is also a lot research that was commimg out of the National Bureau of Econmic Resaerch at the time of the publication of THE BELL CURVE that came to a much different conclusion.<BR/><BR/>So at the level of statistics there are very likely big problems with Murray's and Herstiens book.<BR/><BR/>JupiterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1173979548419679542007-03-15T11:25:00.000-07:002007-03-15T11:25:00.000-07:00So, Jupes, how do you account for the differences ...So, Jupes, how do you account for the differences in average IQs between various ethnic groups?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1173979423675729942007-03-15T11:23:00.000-07:002007-03-15T11:23:00.000-07:00"When Obama briefly surfaced in the media in 1990 ..."When Obama briefly surfaced in the media in 1990 as the first African-American editor of the Harvard Law Review"<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Obama was not the first African-American editor. Everyone (40+ per year) on law review is an editor. Obama was elected President.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1173929472195390802007-03-14T21:31:00.000-07:002007-03-14T21:31:00.000-07:00Jupiter says:"Nor do I beleive that there are gene...Jupiter says:<BR/><BR/>"Nor do I beleive that there are gene-based differences in intelligence among the diferent races"<BR/><BR/>Give this man a Ford Foundation grant!Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1173916689960735412007-03-14T17:58:00.000-07:002007-03-14T17:58:00.000-07:00I, for one, am looking forward to the 21st-century...I, for one, am looking forward to the 21st-century Torquemadas of MediaMatters coming here to set things straight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1173913585135450902007-03-14T17:06:00.000-07:002007-03-14T17:06:00.000-07:00Don't forget the asian,muslim,hispanic and african...Don't forget the asian,muslim,hispanic and african nationalism that is being expressed within the borders of America.<BR/><BR/>It grows with every passing day. Tolerated and encouraged by liberals,leftists,libertarians and worshippers of the corporation.<BR/><BR/>Jupiter<BR/><BR/>JupiterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1173911836023496652007-03-14T16:37:00.000-07:002007-03-14T16:37:00.000-07:00Jupiter: I never accused you of being pro-slavery;...Jupiter: I never accused you of being pro-slavery; I actually said just the opposite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1173911747840063792007-03-14T16:35:00.001-07:002007-03-14T16:35:00.001-07:00F*ck you, Udolpho! I spend my hard earned cash--wh...F*ck you, Udolpho! I spend my hard earned cash--which, of course, I make selling miniature statues of Odin at Aryan Nations arts and crafts fairs--on a lovely white hood, and now you're going to let the cat out of the bag like that?<BR/><BR/>And you know those things are a pain to have <A HREF="http://youtube.com/watch?v=ymg5h5NcnDU" REL="nofollow">laundered.</A>Lysander Spoonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02443829123499778403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1173911736094449652007-03-14T16:35:00.000-07:002007-03-14T16:35:00.000-07:00Green mamba: I looked up Patrick Z. and you are pr...Green mamba: I looked up Patrick Z. and you are probably right. He did use the phrase "Native Born White American" a couple times (I guess his concern for Christianity came later) and made the same remark about how he wished Sherman had killed the Southern aristocracy, which attracted Daedalus's hostility. Daedalus was obviously not Lawrence Auster, since Auster is one of the few white nationalists who is pro-Union and, while no means an unreserved admirer of Lincoln, views him as having had some good qualities rather than the being the monster featured in many a white nationalist rant. I wonder where Patrick/Jupiter got that idea?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1173910870921685732007-03-14T16:21:00.000-07:002007-03-14T16:21:00.000-07:00Points taken about Jupiter.Whether he is real or f...Points taken about Jupiter.<BR/><BR/>Whether he is real or fake (I suppose now he is real), Media Matters visitors will surely experience shivers of delight seeing that he frequents these comments. IT'S ALL TRUE, BROCK FANS, WE ARE MANIACAL BIGOTS!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1173909187947231112007-03-14T15:53:00.000-07:002007-03-14T15:53:00.000-07:00Since James brought it up... I'm pretty sure Jupit...Since James brought it up... I'm pretty sure Jupiter was briefly a poster on Majority Rights, calling himself PatrickZ. He got kicked off during an argument with a guy called Daedulus. He referred to this argument some time ago in the comments section here at isteve.com, saying that Daedulus was actually Larry Auster in disguise, which he obviously wasn't. Go ahead and look it up in your in the mood for such research.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1173909094978973222007-03-14T15:51:00.000-07:002007-03-14T15:51:00.000-07:00Ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, I prese...Ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, I present to you "Steve Sailer: Evil 'Far-Right' Columnist".<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://mediamatters.org/items/200703140004" REL="nofollow">Media Matters Link</A><BR/><BR/><BR/>You've hit the big time, Mr. Sailer!<BR/><BR/>Steve, has an MSM outlet ever mentioned you without referencing the Pioneer Fund, etc.? You might want to consider adding it to your CV.<BR/><BR/>At any rate, I'm sure we can expect a deluge of indignant mindless lefties, in between Keith Olbermann broadcasts and feeling a need to satisfy their daily quota of moral outrage, to stop by within the next few hours/days.<BR/><BR/>(And please note that I said "mindless lefties"; I'm not attempting to disparage all people whose views fall left of center, though I may disagree with their politics.)<BR/><BR/>We're talking about the crowd that spends their days figuratively hunkered down at the homepage of Media Matters, a particularly retarded and shrill organization--like the SPLC if the SPLC were run by 18-year-old Marxists (instead of 50-year-old charlatans)and couldn't decide what its opinions were.<BR/><BR/>("Do we like Hillary? I mean, sure, she's ostensibly a neocon, but she's also a woman. We can't be against a woman--can we?")<BR/><BR/>Here's some intriguing reading for anyone interested, liberal or conservative, about David Brock, the founder of Media Matters.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brock" REL="nofollow">David Brock Bio</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://slate.msn.com/id/2063759/" REL="nofollow">David Brock, Liar A lifelong habit proves hard to break.</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020527/hitchens" REL="nofollow">The Real David Brock</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.eastbayexpress.com/2002-05-15/news/the-unreal-david-brock/1" REL="nofollow">The Unreal David Brock</A>Lysander Spoonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02443829123499778403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1173908676137623182007-03-14T15:44:00.000-07:002007-03-14T15:44:00.000-07:00Yes, Udolpho, I have spent a fair amount of time p...Yes, Udolpho, I have spent a fair amount of time perusing white nationalist sites, so I'm fairly familiar with their positions and rhetoric, as well as their internal debates and ideological differences. <BR/><BR/>I'm not condemning Steve for his association with those sites, which is indirect and unwilling. But the truth is that there is a considerable overlap between the surfing interests of race realists and real racists. So we shouldn't be surprised to see a few of the latter here.<BR/><BR/>As far as Jupiter goes, I'm pretty sure I've encountered him before on one of the sites I referred to before. (I could dig up the textual evidence if you want.) He strikes me as genuine. <BR/><BR/>Just because p.c. Lefties abuse the term "racism" doesn't mean there aren't real racists out there. They might not be great in number, but they're pretty active on the Internet. And like all <BR/>extremist ideologues, they're very persistent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1173907947178048432007-03-14T15:32:00.000-07:002007-03-14T15:32:00.000-07:00Pro-fake: I googled "Jupiter" + "WHITE NATIVE CHR...Pro-fake: I googled "Jupiter" + "WHITE NATIVE CHRISTIAN MALE" and it turned up no hits on any other sites. Why would such a vituperative racist hang out here but not (in descending order of nastiness) American Renaissance, Majority Rights, or Stormfront? <BR/><BR/>Pro-real: He certainly has kept it up for a while. Wouldn't a fake get bored with it (especially since he has rarely been able to get anyone to praise him instead of condemning him)?<BR/> : His remarks about the Confederacy take the form of attacks on the ante bellum aristocracy and modern-day intellectuals who belong to groups like the League of the South, not attacks on the working-class "rednecks." This seems to me consistent with a certain type of extreme white racist worldview that wishes the U.S. black population would dwindle down to nothing and sees those who give blacks employment, now matter how low-status or even (before 1865) actually enslaved, as just as much part of the "problem" as those who support black civil rights. (It would be interesting to know what state Jupiter claims to be from. While there are obviously racists everywhere, even (perhaps especially) in the most self-consciously liberal areas, and, I believe, there are no longer any states where racists compose a majority of the white population, there are certain areas where this worldview has traditionally been popular, and it would be interesting to know if he came from one of them.)<BR/><BR/>Pro-who cares?: A position all sensible people should adopt. I wish I had, but now that I wrote this lengthy thing I might as well post it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1173905464008627452007-03-14T14:51:00.000-07:002007-03-14T14:51:00.000-07:00green mamba,No, I do not visit any white nationali...green mamba,<BR/><BR/>No, I do not visit any white nationalist sites. Do you? I do know that Sailer is read by Democrats like Mickey Kaus and Matt Yglesias, but I never believed the rumors that these guys are all secret racists. In fact Sailer has distanced himself from people like Jared Taylor.<BR/><BR/>Maybe he is just some disturbed, attention-whoring race warrior. Or maybe the glaring overstatements and ALL CAPS gibberish are meant as a form of performance art, the sort of thing good liberals expect to see here. I just can't look at this stuff the same way after the inimitable dweeb Moby advocated that lefties troll conservative-leaning forums and cause trouble.<BR/><BR/>His attacks on Southerners are consistent with him being a liberal sock puppet, as most of that white nationalist sentiment festers in the South. But a good liberal could never pass up a chance to slam them ignorant rednecks...you be the judge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1173905052358110572007-03-14T14:44:00.000-07:002007-03-14T14:44:00.000-07:00Where's the "wigger" remark? It's present on VDare...Where's the "wigger" remark? It's present on VDare (http://www.vdare.com/sailer/070102_obamania.htm )<BR/><BR/>First faggot, now wigger...Democrats thank Coulter and Sailer. Keep it up, you two!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com