tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post1406523018220756221..comments2024-03-19T02:31:02.140-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Sports in black and whiteUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27471397511385068052011-10-28T21:23:11.690-07:002011-10-28T21:23:11.690-07:00"Occam's Razor suggests that NFL teams te...<i>"Occam's Razor suggests that NFL teams tend to be popular with their local populations not because of some unique historical record but because they are local. It's not like the San Francisco 49ers are popular in San Francisco because Steve Young was an expert on Napa Valley wines or Jerry Rice was a C++ programmer. Instead, the 49ers are popular in San Francisco because they are the San Francisco 49ers. This really isn't that complicated."</i><br /><br />but it <i>is</i> complicated since most of the players on all these local teams <i>are not local themselves</i>.<br /><br />assistant village idiot said that he's always rooted for the celtics <i>"because I'm from NH, and they're the home team."</i><br /><br />i just don't get how avi, or anybody else, can support a bunch of people who are/were not from his home town (unless it was different in the 60s). -??-<br /><br />this aspergian requires an explanation.hbd chickhttp://hbdchick.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68301860642249039672011-10-28T20:13:48.522-07:002011-10-28T20:13:48.522-07:00I'm with Truth on this one. I rooted for the ...I'm with Truth on this one. I rooted for the Celtics when they were the blackest team in the league (1960's), when they were the whitest (1980's), and when they were the only entirely American team (2000's). Because I'm from NH, and they're the home team. That's it. Bill Simmons, similar.<br /><br />It has been hard for me to believe that people from other parts of the country liked them for their 80's whiteness, but I have heard it from enough non-PC people of solid observation to accept it must be somewhat true.<br /><br />The reverse, of people liking the Lakers because they were blacker (as Klosterman claims) always struck me as a hypocritical SWPL attitude that I hoped wasn't true, but eventually concluded it was.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40977036083675128992011-10-28T09:50:53.158-07:002011-10-28T09:50:53.158-07:00You guys are morons, Cowherd and Simmons alike are...You guys are morons, Cowherd and Simmons alike are SWPL pussies who worship big black athletes, like everyone white employed by ESPN. Auto racing is more popular than NBA, but gets a fraction of the ESPN coverage. NHL is no less popular than NBA, but also gets only token coverage. All three of these sports have only small niche audiences, but NBA is treated like a major sport--which it isn't.<br /><br />Last NBA all-star break Cowherd was chastising his white audience for not liking the NBA, telling them to "get out of your small towns and see the world" followed by a bunch of "diversity is strength" treacle. Because we all know that living in diverse neighborhoods makes you more tolerant to difference. By the way Colin Cowherd grew up in a 95% white town of about 1000 people.bleachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43505951109089094572011-10-28T08:30:12.953-07:002011-10-28T08:30:12.953-07:00Here is an article from ESPN that discusses the ra...Here is an article from ESPN that discusses the racial divide from Black fans and white fans for the 1980s Celtics.<br /><br />http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=adande_ja&page=Celtics-071219Stuff Black People Don't Likehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07923871032509110194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18457110608485663462011-10-28T00:27:56.689-07:002011-10-28T00:27:56.689-07:00As a sidenote, Mexicans have always loved the Dall...As a sidenote, Mexicans have always loved the Dallas Cowboys and this was true way before the Hispanic-octoroon Tony Romo took over as QB.G.L.Piggyhttp://glpiggy.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69485562355810030772011-10-27T22:34:48.715-07:002011-10-27T22:34:48.715-07:00The Washington press really don't like anybody...<i>The Washington press really don't like anybody named George Allen, do they?</i>--anonymous<br /><br />They might like <a href="http://www.allenfamilyancestors.com/tngfiles811/getperson.php?personID=I7660&tree=allen1" rel="nofollow"><i>this</i> George Allen</a>, the President's (and my) eleventh great-grandfather.Reg Cæsarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81067699625969997702011-10-27T22:17:00.219-07:002011-10-27T22:17:00.219-07:00A twist of the knife in today's Onion: under a...A twist of the knife in today's <i>Onion</i>: under a tiny photo of what appears to be the WNBA champion Lynx is the headline, <b>"Sad, Pathetic Minnesota Fans Will Take A Win In Any Sport"</b>. How true!<br /><br />I just spent the week struggling with the <i>Financial Times</i> Prize Crossword. The answer to "Join team, sounding very perceptive (4,4)" stumped me till the very end, and I'd already had ___XEYED. What the hell beast ends in X? Minx? Jinx? Oryx? Manx? Foxx?<br /><br />Of course, the answer is LYNXEYED. (I.e., "join team" = "link side"-- get it?) The Lynx had just been crowned champions eight miles away, and their name didn't occur to me for a week.<br /><br />WNBA-- Will Nobody Bestow Attention?Reg Cæsarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30205018962731627622011-10-27T21:56:02.902-07:002011-10-27T21:56:02.902-07:00Courting the Latino fans led to gang beatings and ...<i>Courting the Latino fans led to gang beatings and the beating of Giants fan Brian Stowe, leading to Dodger Stadium being half or three quarters empty most of the season.</i> --Whiskey<br /><br />Brooklyn! Brooklyn! Brooklyn!<br /> (Hey, it worked for Oakland and Winnipeg.)Reg Cæsarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37625283567726024942011-10-27T21:16:18.774-07:002011-10-27T21:16:18.774-07:00What's funny is its the Black guys I liked the...<i>What's funny is its the Black guys I liked the most. DJ and the Chief were the ones who REALLY deserve as much credit as Bird and McHale.</i><br /><br />Actually, what is REALLY funny is that even now, even with the awareness of racial issues you must surely possess (commenting here), you still believe that it's imperative to SAY SOMETHING NICE about blacks -- even if, as in this case, you have to cut it out of whole cloth. (I mean, yeah, okay Isaiah Thomas, Larry Bird is "just another good guy.")<br /><br />SilverAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22259435027800574072011-10-27T20:21:03.256-07:002011-10-27T20:21:03.256-07:00I think asking people if they are "favorable&...I think asking people if they are "favorable" toward a sports franchise isn't the right question. You wind up registering a lot of Benign Neglect. <br /><br />The Washington Capitals? -- Yeah, sure I'm favorable towards them. I always want them to beat the Harlem Globetrotters.<br /><br />A better question would be to ask individuals to name players on each team. But polling companies hate asking questions that might display the ignorance of the people being polled.Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47766438965624944772011-10-27T20:14:49.042-07:002011-10-27T20:14:49.042-07:00Way back a generation ago, the Washington sports w...<i>Way back a generation ago, the Washington sports writers got together and got George Allen fired as coach of the Redskins.</i> <br /> <br /> <br /><br /><br />The Washington press really don't like anybody named George Allen, do they?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51235313421852995112011-10-27T20:05:00.906-07:002011-10-27T20:05:00.906-07:00"Only 15% of whites and 3% of blacks in DC fo..."Only 15% of whites and 3% of blacks in DC follow baseball the most."<br /><br />There's no tradition of baseball in DC for 30+ years. Even worse: they have been terrible for the last five...which leads me to this...<br /><br />"If 0% of black fans follow hockey how can 54% of them feel favorable toward the Caps?"<br /><br />...no one supports a winner like black folks (N.B.: My favorite activity: asking black dudes in Steelers and Cowboys gear where in those respective cities they grew up. The silence is usually deafening. Makes this Bills fan quite smug.). The Caps are known as winners, so no surprise that black folks (and recent white transitioners) are disposed to be favorable to them. With the way the Lerners are spending $$ on players, I'd imagine that shortly the Nationals will begin to cut into that lead (slowly). They are everyone in DC's 2nd favorite baseball team.DCThrowbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02595347138052680931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59943915975494727892011-10-27T19:08:18.526-07:002011-10-27T19:08:18.526-07:00Well if you won't link to it I will
http://ww...Well if you won't link to it I will<br /><br />http://www.vdare.com/articles/nfl-teams-and-sports-journalists-discriminating-against-white-players<br /><br /><br />The lack of white cornerbacks is a fun topic to discuss. It's been a long time since Jason Sehorn and before him who? John Mangum? Brian Davis? Pat freakin Fisher?<br /><br />This is a weird bit of Redskin trivia- they drafted 2 white corner backs from Nebraska in the 2nd round in back to back drafts. Tory Nixon and Brian Davis.....maybe not back to back drafts but it sounds better<br /><br />Holy Sh#t, i just wikipedia'd Pat Fischer a white cornerback who played for the Redskins and guess where he went to college? Yep, you guessed it- Nebraska. I'm really freaked out right now.<br /><br />Dan in DCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74960653423514279332011-10-27T18:47:33.459-07:002011-10-27T18:47:33.459-07:00Dear Dan:
Yes, I said that regarding various witc...Dear Dan:<br /><br />Yes, I said that regarding various witch-burnings, like Paul Hornung or the coach of the Air Force football team, who got in big trouble for mentioning that blacks tend to be faster runners. <br /><br />Way back a generation ago, the Washington sports writers got together and got George Allen fired as coach of the Redskins. It's disappeared down the memory hole, but my impression at the time (from afar, of course, so don't take this as gospel) was that the Washington sportswriters saw George Allen as their Richard Nixon and this was their Watergate moment.Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51248448358701020902011-10-27T18:41:15.772-07:002011-10-27T18:41:15.772-07:00Steve, didn't you write a long time ago about ...Steve, didn't you write a long time ago about lib sportswriters going the extra mile with political correctness to make up for lack of respect in the newsroom? Someone wrote it and I've been claiming it as my own for some time now. <br /><br />Dan in DcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57456812287495229722011-10-27T18:32:37.233-07:002011-10-27T18:32:37.233-07:00Hmmm, interesting thought about Simmons. And I de...Hmmm, interesting thought about Simmons. And I definitely can see it being true. <br /><br />(I've been a huge fan of Bill Simmons for about a decade now.)OneSTDVhttp://onestdv.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37985212388304034172011-10-27T18:22:28.062-07:002011-10-27T18:22:28.062-07:00Cowherd is a woman but yes he does occasionally to...Cowherd is a woman but yes he does occasionally touch on off-limit topics. <br /><br />I've been looking forward to that new Artie Lange sports talk show.<br /><br />Simmons does dominate ESPN- he could probably kill a stripper and get 2 weeks probation....I know for a fact he has done just that....<br /><br />Agreed Chuck, Uwe Blab ftw<br /><br />Dan in DcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80934783831858520582011-10-27T18:19:49.902-07:002011-10-27T18:19:49.902-07:00Great post Steve. Liberal sportswriters are probab...Great post Steve. Liberal sportswriters are probably the most liberal, and most stupid, of all the media.<br /><br />Did the writer bring up the great 'Negroes are leaving Baseball!!!' meme? You see, if Blacks don't like BB or make up at least 20% of the players we're all supposed to care because ah...I don't know why...but we supposed to care.<br /><br />Similarly, if 90 percent of NFL DB are Black that's OK - but if 80% of NFL QB's are white, why that's Racism and we're supposed to very concerned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61555102997234753232011-10-27T18:14:18.766-07:002011-10-27T18:14:18.766-07:00Hey, I thought I was the only the one who liked th...Hey, I thought I was the only the one who liked the '86 Celtics above all!<br /><br />What's funny is its the Black guys I liked the most. DJ and the Chief were the ones who REALLY deserve as much credit as Bird and McHale. <br /><br />But it was more than just "hey White guys can play too". It was their dominance, the teamwork, the passing, the shooting ability. <br /><br />Everyone on the '86 Celtics looked like they were having fun out there and were part of something special. Its like Walton and Bird were in a competition to see who could make the greatest assist.<br /><br />So many of the other Great teams always had flaws or tension between the stars. I never sensed that in the '86 Celtics. Probably the nearest closest was the '85 Lakers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86143358884976813752011-10-27T17:59:54.007-07:002011-10-27T17:59:54.007-07:00Yes, Simmons wrote a long footnote about an All-Ti...Yes, Simmons wrote a long footnote about an All-Time All White team that was pretty much the 1986 Celtics (Bird, Walton, and McHale) plus, if I recall correctly, Jerry West and Rick Barry.Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51419466130121885672011-10-27T17:56:10.739-07:002011-10-27T17:56:10.739-07:00Blacks seem to be more logical than Whites here.
...Blacks seem to be more logical than Whites here.<br /><br />Blacks like the Redskins and watch football.<br /><br />Whites like the Capitals but don't watch hockey.<br /><br />Huh?anony-mousenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78473952873484353662011-10-27T17:40:20.600-07:002011-10-27T17:40:20.600-07:00The Redskins really were anti-black. The were pre...The Redskins really were anti-black. The were pretty much the football team of the white south:<br /><br />http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/41422/why-a-washington-baltimore-game-sparked-redskins-segregation-policy-protests<br /><br />"Looking at that chart, what pops up to me is that making the Redskins more popular among Blacks has made them less popular among Whites. Now, who has more money, Whites or Blacks? Which is the larger amount of the population? Which has the higher percentage of nuclear families?"<br /><br />SWPLs are not as into the NFL as most white people, and DC has a lot of SWPLs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19090644376919391652011-10-27T17:26:03.537-07:002011-10-27T17:26:03.537-07:00IIRC, Simmons once wrote about an all time all-sta...IIRC, Simmons once wrote about an all time all-star white team being competitive against and all time all star black team. (I don't have the energy to search around for it.)<br /><br />Simmons definitely leans left but not egregiously so. Like someone pointed out, he recently got some heat for a comment about basketball players not having the intellectual wherewithal to negotiate effectively with owners. <br /><br />But note, he didn't have to apologize. The fact is Simmons carries too much juice at ESPN. They are in mortal dread that he'll go somewhere else and take half their .com audience with him.<br /><br />Contrast that with what they did to Gregg Easterbrook over some pretty innocuous comments. Or Hank Williams Jr, for that matter.<br /><br />So no, Simmons wouldn't get in trouble over there. But anyone else would (with the possible exception of Berman -- but just maybe).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37834069471160754652011-10-27T17:24:28.982-07:002011-10-27T17:24:28.982-07:00Interesting that a full 0% of black fans like Hock...Interesting that a full 0% of black fans like Hockey. Maybe they have a tough time identifying with the players. Maybe they are not the only ethnic group that has trouble identifying with players that have nothing in common with them. Duh. As for the NBA, I don't have enough mustard to go to one of their games with all those hot dogs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28083181613299665032011-10-27T17:20:51.775-07:002011-10-27T17:20:51.775-07:00A partially anti-PC sports talk show with right wi...A partially anti-PC sports talk show with right wing comic<a href="http://www.nickandartie.com/downloads.html" rel="nofollow"> Nick Di Paolo and drug addict Artie Lange.</a><br /><br />Here's a NSFW rant by comic Bill Burr about New York sports fans. <br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXA8z8fowf8" rel="nofollow"> Bill Burr: The State of New York Sports Rant</a>.<br /><br />Don't underestimate the White Boston to White New York rivalry.DYorknoreply@blogger.com