tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post1789760430251807219..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Big growers worried new "guest" workers will try to fleeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76151583655555035682013-02-25T12:19:11.007-08:002013-02-25T12:19:11.007-08:00 I asked Revilo Oliver his opinion of Esperanto on... I asked Revilo Oliver his opinion of Esperanto once. It was the only time I ever heard the F word out of him. (Oliver was a Classics professor who read eleven languages and wrote scholarly articles in four.)Flagstonenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83755785628305610482013-02-24T20:45:41.256-08:002013-02-24T20:45:41.256-08:00Any universal language will likely more closely re...Any universal language will likely more closely resemble Chinese (pretty much the platonic ideal of an analytic language: has no conjugations, declensions, cases, or plural forms) than Esperanto (with its heavily European agglutinative grammar.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58188678346166447732013-02-23T21:51:11.425-08:002013-02-23T21:51:11.425-08:00Esperanto is immensely stupid.Esperanto is immensely stupid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23379365046960646732013-02-23T20:08:59.464-08:002013-02-23T20:08:59.464-08:00Esperanto is said to be the world's easiest la... Esperanto is said to be the world's easiest language to learn, but how many do? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74789741486156130422013-02-23T11:23:23.913-08:002013-02-23T11:23:23.913-08:00I live in the Bay Area. No one wants to accept th...I live in the Bay Area. No one wants to accept the fact that immigration has always mainly helped but one group of people in this country: employers.<br />In school we are taught that immigrants were allowed into this country because it was the right thing to do. It's heavily implied--and no information counter to this is implied--that immigration is a total virtue, and scant attention is paid in our textbooks to the resentment and anger that groups of earlier workers justifiably felt when the owners kept them in poverty by importing workers who were effectively scabs--starting with slavery but not ending there. Immigration is the means by which the rich and powerful have controlled a basically freedom-loving nation. Today, they buy the assent of the rest with cheap prices and everyone agrees to cover their eyes to the inevitable--a too-full country whose more recent immigrants despise the older lot, egged on by propaganda from internationalists who tell the poor and the new immigrants that a wish for a stable nation is racist, taking advantage of the white/non-white demographic splits, but not stopping there, of course, if other refinements are needed. The descendants of the "Old" America, if they are not Jew or "of color,' are uniformly vilified in the most damaging way, and we're "relaxing" our mores straight to hell (metaphorically--I'm an atheist myself).<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36851103486724608762013-02-22T23:40:36.570-08:002013-02-22T23:40:36.570-08:00"Steve, when you start seeing everything as a..."Steve, when you start seeing everything as a class conspiracy, that's not a good sign."<br /><br />It's not all a class conspiracy - just some.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81514409302192657482013-02-22T23:33:04.940-08:002013-02-22T23:33:04.940-08:00"This is odd coming from LKY. Singapore has 4..."This is odd coming from LKY. Singapore has 4 official languages, more fragmented religious divisions than the US does, and a 75% chinese/13% malay/10% indian ethnic split."<br /><br />different directions<br /><br />LKY *inherited* a multi-cultural state and has tried to make it as unified as possible.<br /><br />The USA started unified (ish) and has deliberately multi-culturalized (aka balkanized) itself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73126276173273066212013-02-22T23:21:35.947-08:002013-02-22T23:21:35.947-08:00I do wonder - if the western world does effectivel...I do wonder - if the western world does effectively disappear - how long it will be before slavery comes back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-470773432583498402013-02-22T21:37:38.883-08:002013-02-22T21:37:38.883-08:00"Traditional methods for preventing an exodus...<b>"Traditional methods for preventing an exodus of workers from the agricultural sector have included chaining workers together, and, if they run, hunting them down with packs of baying bloodhounds."</b><br /><br />^^^ This is why we read you. ^^^ Well done, sir. Well done, indeed.Matthewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26633629451810697082013-02-22T15:26:11.168-08:002013-02-22T15:26:11.168-08:00you want people to work the fields, you pay them h...<i>you want people to work the fields, you pay them higher wages.</i><br /><br />And while we're dreaming, how about no more military actions without a congressional declaration of war? A return to the gold standard too?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42052969849384823062013-02-22T13:33:36.693-08:002013-02-22T13:33:36.693-08:00"How about a new bill?
If you want welfare, ..."How about a new bill?<br /><br />If you want welfare, you gotta work the fields. " - How about a new bill, you want people to work the fields, you pay them higher wages.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37554374143414922982013-02-22T13:23:56.597-08:002013-02-22T13:23:56.597-08:00English "easy to learn"? Absurd! With ...English "easy to learn"? Absurd! With its high incidence of irregular verbs, grammatical exceptions, and atrociously inconsistent spelling, English is one of the worst world languages to learn.<br /><br />Its actual advantages lie in its high tolerance for complex consonantal structure, leading to its being able to produce, borrow, and absorb words from other languages.Melendwyrhttp://occludedsun.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45759804407075823212013-02-22T05:59:21.779-08:002013-02-22T05:59:21.779-08:00The group was founded in 2002 to address the probl...The group was founded in 2002 to address the problem of unpaid wages for low-income workers.<br /><br />The report, based on a survey of 1,194 workers at randomly selected construction sites in Austin, Dallas, El Paso, Houston and San Antonio, found that:<br />•U.S.-born construction workers earned an average of $3.12 per hour more than undocumented workers, who reported earning an average of $11.10 per hour.<br />•73 percent of undocumented workers reported they had not received basic safety training, while40 percent of U.S.-born workers had not received such training.<br />•29 percent of undocumented workers said they were covered by a workers’ compensation policy, compared to 65 percent of U.S.-born workers.<br /><br /> This has been the biggest growth industry for illegals not farmwork. Here's the stats from Texas.<br /><br />The study says that 81 percent of the workers surveyed were Hispanic and 73 percent were foreign born.<br /><br />Construction industry representatives said they couldn’t confirm <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26945186007412750872013-02-22T03:39:09.390-08:002013-02-22T03:39:09.390-08:00There are advantages with guest workers if you hav...There are advantages with guest workers if you haven't let in too many illegals in the first place: it's hard for them to 'melt into the crowd'.<br /><br />I live in a area of Canada that is almost 100% white, yet has a strong agricultural sector inviting in many guest workers. Those (nice) Guatemalan gentlemen, 5'2" and dark-skinned, are about as inconspicuous as aliens from Alpha Centauri.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58057123204224602692013-02-22T02:47:58.510-08:002013-02-22T02:47:58.510-08:00Can we start calling fruit picking "internshi...Can we start calling fruit picking "internships"?alexishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14958611059030729965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56952184579340171632013-02-22T01:28:11.071-08:002013-02-22T01:28:11.071-08:00Medieval Europe solved this particular problem wit...Medieval Europe solved this particular problem with the institution of serfdom. Basically peasants were tied to their lord's estate as a captive workforce and were frobidden to change occupation or employer. The idea was that the lord was supposed to 'protect' them from violence and act as a patron, and the peasants' tying to the estate was the 'price' of this bargain.<br /> - 21st century Californian farmers won't even do that. What you have is a conveyor-belt typr Ponzi scheme in which a fresh batch of Mexicans is exploited, dumped and moved on to be replaced by an infinite number of fresh Mexicans.<br /> As pure capitalism this cannot be beaten.Costs are minimized to the lowest extent possible, basically, apart from the cents on the dollar wages all externalities are 'socialized' ie dumped on the great mass of US working stiffs to pay. So to all intents and purposes, California growers have got 'free labor' in the same way they have free rainfall, air and insect pollinators. There is a tiny, marginal cost for engaging a mexican's time, but it's no more than he would pay on gas, pesticides or a myriad other sundries. Petty cash, basically, kept in the petty cash tin.<br /> Slavery turbo-charged for the 21st century backed by the inexorable law of Malthus - and masive neighboring income inequality, sure cannot be beaten as a system. No whips, no odium, no rebellions and no puritan hymn singers. Just pure 'hands clean' profit.<br /><br />By the way, mexicans in the agri-towns of the central valley have the highest unemployment rate going.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39438915039491690652013-02-21T23:25:57.508-08:002013-02-21T23:25:57.508-08:00In the USSR high school and college kids would be ...In the USSR high school and college kids would be sent to the farms every autumn to help bring in the harvest. I kind of like that idea - it would reduce immigration and remind spoiled rich kids what real work is.Peter the Sharknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8947875179834473292013-02-21T20:55:46.333-08:002013-02-21T20:55:46.333-08:00How the hell did the crops get picked from 1925-19...How the hell did the crops get picked from 1925-1980? I don't peronsally don't remember *any* farm labor shortage in the 1970s.<br /> <br />2/21/13, 4:55 PM<br />Well, in California legal and illegal Mexicans pick the crops this goes back to the Brancero Program. In other states, whites and blacks still pick it. I was shocked when a friend told me that in Oregon white people still pick fruits and veggies in 1982 or so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90649433967888960632013-02-21T20:52:39.162-08:002013-02-21T20:52:39.162-08:00What does this mean? If Mexico didn't exist, w...What does this mean? If Mexico didn't exist, we would starve? <br /><br />And what happens if Mexico becomes middle class and no longer has lots of kids? No more illegal workers? So, will we gringos all starve? <br /><br />Mexicans, please remain poor and keep having kids. Otherwise, we gringos will all starvez.<br /> <br />2/21/13, 4:46 PM<br />Well, most Mexicans don't do bad by world standards, its the rural areas there verison of South Texas and the Central Valley that comes up here. However, the Mexicans are growing more food and shipping it to us, maybe we should reduce the food we are growing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-89693583463785561502013-02-21T20:49:26.562-08:002013-02-21T20:49:26.562-08:00What's interesting is the cities that have a l...What's interesting is the cities that have a lot of illegal immirgants are farm towns or like Anaheim do Hotel and Resturant work. I'm thinking that there is actually a surplus of workers in farmwork or Hotel and Resturant work. I bet the real unemployment among the illegals in many places is now 15 percent. Ca Valley has high rates and Anaheim is over 9 percent. If people want to legalize them here's the deal, they have to currently have a job I bet at least 2 to 4 million are currently unemployed among the 11 percent illegals in the US and are living off of employed relatives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54833075139093212002013-02-21T20:41:36.881-08:002013-02-21T20:41:36.881-08:00Traditional methods for preventing an exodus of ag...<i>Traditional methods for preventing an exodus of agricultural workers have included chaining workers together, and, if they run, hunting them down with packs of baying bloodhounds. Perhaps a revival of the Fugitive Slave Law of 1857 could be slipped into the back pages of the "immigration reform" legislation.</i><br />Some laugh out loud funny right there. Good stuff, Steve.haddoxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10837562068261294912013-02-21T20:04:26.535-08:002013-02-21T20:04:26.535-08:00Lee credits the resounding success of the United S...<i>Lee credits the resounding success of the United States with two key factors: a unifying language, English, because of it's ease to learn and demographics.</i><br /><br />Does anyone have the cite or know which interview where Lee said this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55946893774624735412013-02-21T20:00:01.677-08:002013-02-21T20:00:01.677-08:00"Our dependnece on foreign oil helps Israel&#..."Our dependnece on foreign oil helps Israel's enemies."<br /><br />While I would love to see an end to immigration and a long process of 'digestion' begin, the fact is the USA gets very, very little of its oil or energy needs from the middle east. It is a huge canard that the USA is dependent on the mideast for its oil. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49810788878384589232013-02-21T19:55:32.649-08:002013-02-21T19:55:32.649-08:00Oh God, its another one of those "crops are r...Oh God, its another one of those "crops are rotting in the field" stories. Rotting! You got that! ROTTING! <br /><br />You would think millions of Americans were starving to death like the great hunger in Ireland during the 1840's. I never see any empty shelves in my supermarket....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25682738288154912302013-02-21T19:40:04.980-08:002013-02-21T19:40:04.980-08:00Nobel Prize Winner and Former Singapore PM Lee Kua...Nobel Prize Winner and Former Singapore PM Lee Kuan Yew: "Multiculturalism Will Destroy America"<br /><br />----------------------------------------<br /><br />This is odd coming from LKY. Singapore has 4 official languages, more fragmented religious divisions than the US does, and a 75% chinese/13% malay/10% indian ethnic split. <br /><br />You could argue Singapore is more multikulti than the US.<br /><br />LKY is right in saying that low-iq mass immigration is detrimental, but his assertion in that quote surely is erroneous considering where he comes from. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com