tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post1819140108020748889..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Zizek on MandelaUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64465831281334319562013-12-12T19:56:04.212-08:002013-12-12T19:56:04.212-08:00To Silver said;
Even if we accept the figure of 5...To Silver said;<br /><br />Even if we accept the figure of 500,000 Aboriginees, it still means an essentially empty continent. <br /><br />Let's take Texas as a comparison.<br /><br />Australia is more then 11 times larger and Texas currently has a population pushing 27 million, plus god knows how many future democratic voters, (er, I mean illegal aliens).<br /><br />So to get a proper comparison, lets make Texas 11 times bigger and then reduce its population by making it 54 times smaller. <br /><br />Even in its current manifestation, Texas has great stretches of empty land. So imagine how empty it would then be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2156416498640619852013-12-11T07:18:51.168-08:002013-12-11T07:18:51.168-08:00I'm fascinated by the magnitude of the weapons...I'm fascinated by the magnitude of the weapons cache found at the Rivonia farm:<br /><br />http://www.censorbugbear.org/black-racism/terrorism/nelson-mandela-the-bombing-record<br /><br />The 144 tons of ammonium nitrate jumps out at me. The Hiroshima bomb was 16 kilotons, so only 0.144 kilotons, or one percent of Hiroshima (after blending with fuel oil and assuming prills and oil has the same destructive power as TNT) doesn't sound like much, but it's more impressive if you realize that the destructive power of a bomb increases with only the two-thirds power of energy release, and not linearly. Thus, by this calculation, a 100 ratio of energy is only a 21.5 ratio of destruction, and Mandela's cache of bomb material was 4.65% of a Hiroshima equivalent. Moreover, if you subdivide the cache, you increase the destructive equivalency. The Oklahoma City bombing was performed with 2 to 4 tons of material, I think I remember reading. If you split it into 52 bombs of 3 tons each (after blending with fuel oil), each will be one over 305 of a Hiroshima, 52 of which is 17 percent. The Oklahoma event killed 168 people, so 52 such bombs could kill 8736. The Hiroshima bomb killed about 100,000, 17 percent of which is 17,000, so my calculation of 17 percent Hiroshima equivalency is clearly a little on the high side - it should be more like 9 percent. The difference may be in the radiation effects.<br /><br />As for the 21.6 tons of aluminum power - the obvious purpose is to make thermite, for which it is the essential ingredient to make 85 tons. The best use to which thermite can be put is to melt structural steel, which is useful for bringing down skyscrapers and bridges. A couple of tons could probably have brought down each of the twin trade towers - call it 4 tons to kill 3000 people, so 85 could kill 63,750 if you find enough really big skyscrapers. And one ton of black powder - three people were killed by maybe a pound at the Boston Marathon, so a ton should be good for 6,000. The wild card is the 210,000 hand grenades. You could do great things if you distributed them as party favors at children's birthday gatherings, but actual efficiency of deployment would undoubtedly be much less. Any way you count them (plus the 48,000 antipersonnel mines) you've got the better part of a Hiroshima's worth of WMD; maybe mult-Hiro's.<br /><br />The point that I'm leading up to is that if anyone were to compile a list of historic WMD caches amassed by depraved criminal madmen bent on wholesale human destruction, the accomplishment of Mandela and his buddies at Rivonia Farm would surely rank fairly high, at least in the non-governmental division. Our gentle departed Yoda deserves credit for thinking and acting on such a grand scale.Dana Thompsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8984748161221673842013-12-10T05:35:20.865-08:002013-12-10T05:35:20.865-08:00"Look, I liked Nelson Mandela in Shawshank Re..."Look, I liked Nelson Mandela in Shawshank Redemption and Driving Miss Daisy just like every other good American. But do we really have to fawn over this guy right after losing Paul Walker so soon? Mandela had a long life and a very, very rewarding acting career. Let's give it a rest already and put this loss into perspective, OK?<br /><br />There, I said what everyone else was thinking."<br /><br />+1reiner Tornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55758736188516524062013-12-10T05:06:24.077-08:002013-12-10T05:06:24.077-08:00Look, I liked Nelson Mandela in Shawshank Redempti...Look, I liked Nelson Mandela in Shawshank Redemption and Driving Miss Daisy just like every other good American. But do we really have to fawn over this guy right after losing Paul Walker so soon? Mandela had a long life and a very, very rewarding acting career. Let's give it a rest already and put this loss into perspective, OK?<br /><br />There, I said what everyone else was thinking.reiner Tornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56430915157174168972013-12-10T00:11:28.976-08:002013-12-10T00:11:28.976-08:00Slightly OT, but Bibi is not going to attend Mande...<i>Slightly OT, but Bibi is not going to attend Mandela's funeral. He says it would cost the government of Israel too much money and so he will skip.</i><br /><br />It's a curious snub. Apartheid SA once had <br /><a href="http://mondoweiss.net/2013/12/alliance-relationship-apartheid.html" rel="nofollow">no better friend.</a> And of course Israel is now fated to endure the "apartheid" label.<br />But then there's <a href="http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/sa-jews-dismiss-call-to-flee-to-israel-1.1602699#.UqbIaNJDuSo" rel="nofollow">this.</a><br />So Bibi is allowed to reject a role in the farce and Israel isn't plunged into the sort of national crisis the media here would demand. I just look at that and think "how cool it must be to have your own country!"Dennis Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03233729780363740881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53936779422754019002013-12-09T23:05:12.427-08:002013-12-09T23:05:12.427-08:00Just imagine if the South African Train Conductor ...Just imagine if the South African Train Conductor had not thrown M.K. Ghandi out of the Train, He wont have been the "Mahatma". Th truth is "Mahatmas" dont get shot. Paramathamas do all the shooting, and thats why they are called the "German Brahman". "One Lean Mean Killing Machine".Solushttp://www.vsnl.net/~Solussnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5265191559845387252013-12-09T14:25:20.020-08:002013-12-09T14:25:20.020-08:00Dana Thompson:
Go to www.archive.org , enter the ...Dana Thompson:<br /><br />Go to www.archive.org , enter the precise address of the webpage you want to see past versions of into the little window by the 'WayBack Machine' sign, and then (if any versions have been archived) choose the date you want to view. You'll be shown the page, as it was uploaded on that date.Melendwyrhttp://occludedsun.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26307620901168827202013-12-09T09:50:27.724-08:002013-12-09T09:50:27.724-08:00The poor Socialists always run afoul of the same p...The poor Socialists always run afoul of the same problem: their cure is worse than the disease.Dutch Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02687679491743923216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14566228585563506642013-12-09T09:27:11.305-08:002013-12-09T09:27:11.305-08:00To anonymous at 12/8/13 6:57pm: Does Bibi understa...To anonymous at 12/8/13 6:57pm: Does Bibi understand that the techniques of IED's, truck bombs, bombing of fast food restaurants, etc. employed by Mandela's Spear of the Nation terrorist organization are the same as those employed against his own countrymen? And Mandela's destiny to become a wealthy and universally adored elder statesmen will certainly give renewed heart and courage to the terrorist forces arrayed against his own nation? Maybe Bibi refuses to attend the funeral because he has a shred of decency in his soul.<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umkhonto_we_SizweDana Thompsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83912535719483895162013-12-09T08:48:04.285-08:002013-12-09T08:48:04.285-08:00This is an excellent link, to what appears to be a...This is an excellent link, to what appears to be a very informative site:<br />http://www.censorbugbear.org/black-racism/terrorism/nelson-mandela-the-bombing-record<br />My apologies, if it has already been posted. A lot of the links on the site are broken. I understand there's some kind of "way-back machine" that gives access to deleted-but-archived pages, which I've never used. Can anyone give brief instructions on how to use that service?Dana Thompsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10236818960590263592013-12-09T08:08:55.621-08:002013-12-09T08:08:55.621-08:00"Apparently the Vorster government strangely ..."Apparently the Vorster government strangely calculated that taking a liberal position on Rhodesia would buy them goodwill from the international community on the apartheid issue."<br /><br />Vorster was a feckless and weak leader. Prior to Lancaster House, Smith had gone to Pretoria and basically offered all of Rhodesia if they would invade and turn the country into a fifth South African province. The military was very much in favor of the idea, but Vorster said no.Bertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-11795780980405025562013-12-09T03:13:29.656-08:002013-12-09T03:13:29.656-08:00My take as one living in Pretoria on Mandela:
M...My take as one living in Pretoria on Mandela:<br /> <br /><br />Mandela's legacy is something of a curate's egg. He was undoubtedly a great reconciler when released from prison in Paarl in the early 90s. It's a great credit to him that he wasn't spitting bile and seeking revenge after 27 years banged up. No doubt the National Party, under FW De Klerk, wouldn't have released him if that looked at all likely. Mandela was clearly someone De Klerk felt he could 'do business with'. The CODESA negations - Convention for a Democratic South Africa - at Kempton Park leading up to the 1994 elections, were a credit to both men. In this instance the Nobel peace prize awarded to them was well deserved.<br /><br />But the truth is, in terms of advocating change through non violence, Nelson Mandela was no Gandhi or even Martin Luther King, whose non violent demenour he adopted only in later life. Right up until the end of the 80s the ANC was a terrorist organisation...<br /><br /> <a href="http://hurryupharry.org/2013/12/06/egregious-tributes-to-mandela/#comment-1153815147" rel="nofollow">Read the whole thing</a>.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84638745122295397792013-12-09T00:19:32.066-08:002013-12-09T00:19:32.066-08:00There were about 200,000 Aboriginees in Australia ...<i>There were about 200,000 Aboriginees in Australia when Britain began dumping its underclass there. In a landmass the size of Australia that was nothing. The continent was almost unoccupied in any meaningful spatial sense.</i><br /><br />It may have been closer to 500,000, but still, that's next to nothing on a territory the size of Australia. The idea that the abos 'owned' Australia is thoroughly preposterous. Even when I was a teenager and totally freaked out by the idea of 'racism' I was extremely scornful of the idea that the abos had any kind of special claim on Australia; my God how their promoters used to get up my nose.Silvernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4384649136168169742013-12-08T20:32:58.525-08:002013-12-08T20:32:58.525-08:00"Keep in mind that Mugabe wasn't Mugabe f...<i>"Keep in mind that Mugabe wasn't Mugabe for the first two decades of his rule."</i><br /><br />Mugabe was always Mugabe; it just takes time to run a country all the way into the ground. Robert Mugabe had a track record as a Marxist and a terrorist prior to coming to power in 1979-80. Within a few years he had antagonized the Matabeles and whites, although the full immiseration of the country took longer than that.<br /><br />To say that the outcome of Mugabe's accession to power was a surprise lets off the hook British, American, and South African* authorities that promoted the Lancaster House accords.<br /><br />It also fails to credit the people who attempted to reach an arrangement that sidelined Mugabe. Muzorewa, Smith, Sithole, and Chirau promoted their internal settlement abroad, including in the US. (Reagan, Ford, and Kissenger were all sympathetic to their agreement, but the Carter administration was in power at the time and insisted on Mugabe's participation.)<br /><br />Incidentally, have any of these liberals (reasonably) celebrating the fact that Mandela was <i>not</i> Mugabe ever expressed remorse over the fact that Mugabe <i>was</i>Mugabe? Did these people have anything reflective to say when Ian Smith died a few years ago? Or are they just interested in fashionable moral posturing?<br /><br />* Apparently the Vorster government strangely calculated that taking a liberal position on Rhodesia would buy them goodwill from the international community on the apartheid issue. In this respect, and probably in others, the South African government was its own worst enemy. They were lucky international communism collapsed before they did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47690611260289723602013-12-08T20:20:44.027-08:002013-12-08T20:20:44.027-08:00Re: Mandela.
Sick to death of him.
A Great Man?...Re: Mandela.<br /><br />Sick to death of him. <br /><br />A Great Man? <br /><br />If, in 20 years' time, South Africa is a First World, functioning democracy with a decent per capita GDP, I'll toast his memory.<br /><br />But here's my bet: another ramshackle, impoverished and undemocratic sub-Saharan nation.<br /><br />At least this time the BBC, New York Times and all the rest will, unlike with Robert Mugabe, be spared the embarrassment that they salivated over him so.<br /><br />R.I.P. Deadbeat. <br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68293485934146998982013-12-08T18:57:36.878-08:002013-12-08T18:57:36.878-08:00Slightly OT, but Bibi is not going to attend Mande...Slightly OT, but <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/netanyahu-missing-mandela-memorial-cost-reasons-004144116.html" rel="nofollow">Bibi </a>is not going to attend Mandela's funeral. He says it would cost the government of Israel too much money and so he will skip.<br /><br /><i>Netanyahu had notified the South African authorities that he would fly in but cancelled his plans at the last minute due to the costs involved -- around 7.0 million shekels ($2 million) for his transport and security alone, pubic radio and the Haaretz daily reported.<br /><br />"The decision was made in light of the high transportation costs resulting from the short notice of the trip and the security required for the prime minister in Johannesburg," Haaretz reported.</i><br /><br />Could a Western leader come up with this excuse? Also, how is $2 million too much for Israel, the booming high-tech economic giant? Aren't there any American Jews who could pony up a measly $2 million? What about sheldon Adelson who gave $10 million to Newt's campaign? Or Bloomberg who recently won that $1 million prize?<br /><br />Anyway, it looks like a snub, which is fascinating given the messianic-like tributes coming in from around the world. I await to see how the NY Times covers this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15583650732765785972013-12-08T15:48:40.921-08:002013-12-08T15:48:40.921-08:00I was in India last week, and the local media went...I was in India last week, and the local media went predictably ape over Nelson's death, majoring on comparisons with Mohandas Gandhi. He was regularly referred to as "a true Gandhian"! Do these people have even the slightest awareness of Gandhi's views of Mandela's people? Clearly not.<br /><br />Also, visited Bombay/Mumbai for the first time and finally watched "Elysium" for the first time on the flight home. Fiction is barely keeping pace with reality on this one IMO.Diedrich from Ouagadougounoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50505058400728610632013-12-08T14:16:04.344-08:002013-12-08T14:16:04.344-08:00"a mosaic of people gathered by the British c..."a mosaic of people gathered by the British colonial peoples": oh come off it.<br /><br />The Dutch arrived themselves, to be joined by Huguenot refugees. Neither was anything to do with the British, who took Cape Colony only during the Napoleonic wars. By that time the Boers had already created the "coloured" people, by shagging their black hottentot (Khoisan) slaves. They had also created the Asian minority by importing slaves from the Dutch East Indies. The British added to the Asians by importing labour from India and pissed off the Boers by abolishing the slave trade and then slavery itself. You could argue that more (black) people were then added to South Africa by the British conquering Natal and the Boers trekking inland to colonise the Transvaal and the Orange Free State. After the Boer War, the British set up the Union of South Africa in 1910, as a dominion. Apartheid was introduced after the Second World War when the Boer trade unionists, now known as Afrikaaners, won power acting as the National Party.<br /><br />And to all that you can add the expansion of the Bantu, whose arrival in South Africa at the expense of the Khoisan had nothing to do with either the Dutch or British. And, oddly, isn't referred to as "colonisation" on Wikipedia. Strange, that.deariemenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12284450828025592332013-12-08T12:47:18.538-08:002013-12-08T12:47:18.538-08:00Well, Nelson went too far. We know of Western Euro...Well, Nelson went too far. We know of Western European countries that are slow growth and have a larger welfare state than the US that don't do too bad. In fact the Right Wing argument around here is slightly wrong since some very liberal states like Vermont outperformed more market states in the South. Few around here are in the middle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69237448164696795932013-12-08T12:43:40.904-08:002013-12-08T12:43:40.904-08:00The Afrikaners were anti-colonialists. They were n...The Afrikaners were anti-colonialists. They were not themselves colonialists at any point after about 1700 and arguably earlier than that. Black Africans fighting against Afrikaners were not and are not anti-colonialists, they are simply one ethnic/racial group fighting against another for political supremacy. It would be nice if someone, anyone in the mainstream media would discuss these points even for just a few moments, but of course this doesn't happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75449634398213920882013-12-08T12:39:23.248-08:002013-12-08T12:39:23.248-08:00It is easy to ridicule Ayn Rand, but there is a gr...It is easy to ridicule Ayn Rand, but there is a grain of truth in the famous “hymn to money” from her novel Atlas Shrugged: “Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to become the means by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of other men. Blood, whips and guns or dollars. Take your choice – there is no other.”<br /><br />Ayd Rand Hymn is why we have immigration issues, a lot of small and large businesses and private individuals hired them since they saved money. A more neutral view about money is better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34205617238226685932013-12-08T11:48:57.663-08:002013-12-08T11:48:57.663-08:00Was partition ever a viable option for a post-apar...Was partition ever a viable option for a post-apartheid South Africa? Give the whites and Asians one section of the country, and give the rest to to blacks and coloreds?<br /><br />It seems like it would have led to more long-term stability, at least for the white half.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87432907259287927692013-12-08T10:43:18.436-08:002013-12-08T10:43:18.436-08:00“...if you will that the old-style 1960s regime of...“...if you will that the old-style 1960s regime of Verwoerd and Vorster continued virtually unchanged up to present, then I pretty much have no doubt that the old-style RSA would be a state surpassing Australia in terms of GDP per capita and development and lifestyle, for whites at least.”<br /><br />I doubt it. With current black to white ratio about 10:1, it is utterly unthinkable to keep racial and social peace necessary for such per capita GDP. With average IQ for the total population about 80 and going south, it would take Saudi Arabia oil fields. And Sharia law. (Watch it coming to African country near you)Orlandonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19863098036056720652013-12-08T10:24:18.445-08:002013-12-08T10:24:18.445-08:00"One thing I can't help thinking. If you ..."One thing I can't help thinking. If you put to one side all the injustice of apartheid, and imagine, if you will that the old-style 1960s regime of Verwoerd and Vorster continued virtually unchanged up to present, then I pretty much have no doubt that the old-style RSA would be a state surpassing Australia in terms of GDP per capita and development and lifestyle, for whites at least. Perhaps it would even be a leading industrial power by now."<br /><br />Oh, I have no doubt that would be true. And both races would have been better off. For all the crap that everyone gives the National Party South African blacks today have the highest standard of living and the most wealth per capita than any other blacks on the continent. AS bad as the crime is, and as lousy as inner-city Johannesburg is, it's nowhere near as messed up as places like Nigeria or the Congo.Bertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40681261172452693542013-12-08T09:34:19.644-08:002013-12-08T09:34:19.644-08:00Anonymous said..."Apartheid built South Afric...Anonymous said..."Apartheid built South Africa. Blacks just inherited its fruits."<br /><br />This is true, though the last accurate thing you wrote. <br /><br />Both the US and Australia were largely uninhabited. Yes there were nomadic bands wandering around hunting (and massacring each other) when the Europeans showed up. Most died from disease, a good number died in wars with the whites (almost always helped in some way by other "friendly" Indians) and the rest got put onto reservations where they do things like get diabetes at alarming rates and drink as much as posssible. <br /> <br />South Africa was similarly unpopulated. The vast majority of their blacks are the descendants of people that moved there seeking work. In South Africa, the whites were there first. Otis McWrongnoreply@blogger.com