tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post1849394013745554828..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Nicholas Wade defends "A Troublesome Inheritance"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger79125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78145308457179119562014-06-01T09:32:27.683-07:002014-06-01T09:32:27.683-07:00"1) Heavily subsidize decent paying, private ..."1) Heavily subsidize decent paying, private sector jobs for the left half of the bell curve. If Danes can make $21 per hour working at McDonalds, we should move in that direction. This is the sugar to go with the medicine that follows.<br /><br />We already do this. The person working a minimum wage job qualifies for so many freebies that he would have to make $60k to afford all of that himself."<br /><br />Oh for crap's sake. It isn't what someone qualifies for that counts, it's what they can use that they qualify for. And of that bit, it's what they can use that they actually jump through hoops to get that counts.<br /><br />Every chart I've seen that diagrams public sector freebies based on income fails to take into account what is actually used at median or mode.<br /><br />Whereas with a paycheck, after the mandatory deductions, you have it all whether you use it or not.Tardigradehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08897374407990627879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15668707865046066222014-06-01T09:26:11.887-07:002014-06-01T09:26:11.887-07:00"
"who looks like he should be play..."<br /><br /> "who looks like he should be playing goalie for Argentina's World Cup team."<br /><br /> Will you stop noticing, you big old noticer. "<br /><br />No, this isn't noticing, it is judging. Notice the "should".<br /><br />A noticing would be closer to: "who looks similar to a goalie for...". But even that would be context dependent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76938397544484677392014-06-01T07:45:25.944-07:002014-06-01T07:45:25.944-07:00"Anthropology is no longer a scientific disci...<i>"Anthropology is no longer a scientific discipline, if indeed it ever was one. Anthropologists themselves officially went on record that they consider science to be icky:<br /><br /><a href="http://blogs.nature.com/news/2010/11/hold_the_science_says_anthropo.html" rel="nofollow">Hold the Science</a>"</i><br /><br /><br /><br />Interesting. <a href="http://blogs.nature.com/news/2010/11/hold_the_science_says_anthropo.html" rel="nofollow">"Hold the science, says anthropology society"</a>, Ewen Callaway, 30 Nov 2010, Nature.com News Blog:<br /><br /><i>"Is anthropology a science? Don’t ask the American Anthropological Association (AAA), which recently <b>voted to strike the word “science”</b> from its long-term mission statement. ...<br /><br />...voted to change its long term goal statement from: “The purposes of the Association shall be to advance anthropology as the science that studies humankind in all its aspects” to: “The purposes of the Association shall be to advance <b>public understanding</b> of humankind in all its aspects.”<br /><br />Three other mentions of science were removed from the three-paragraph statement, while <b>teaching and promoting public understanding</b> were emphasized.<br /><br />..changes have drawn the condemnation of data-collecting anthropologists...<br /><br />...the change represents longstanding tension over whether human culture should be studied... with a more <b>interpretative perspective</b> that’s characteristic of <b>humanities scholarship</b>... "</i> (emphasis added)<br /><br />Ah, the old agit-prop game. More fun than gossip!<br /><br />At least it frees up the discipline to concentrate on a narrative that really fires up the 18-year old undergrads. Facts cannot be allowed to derail the Revolution!<br /><br />I guess when it comes down to it Noticer Steve might be considered one of those data-collecting anthropologists...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47643074194087020472014-06-01T01:09:07.070-07:002014-06-01T01:09:07.070-07:00That Jennifer Raff sure is feisty in her little co...That Jennifer Raff sure is feisty in her little comments section. <br /><br />Unfortunately, her running in and yelling something, then running out and slamming the door is creating some unintended comic results.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69301489841458770082014-05-31T22:31:08.148-07:002014-05-31T22:31:08.148-07:00If you want political support for nixing AA, etc.,...If you want political support for nixing AA, etc., you've got to sweeten the pot. And make people feel wealthier / more dignified by getting them higher wages & private sector bennies rather than making them more directly dependent on government. <br /><br />Part of the equation may be tightening the labor market via restricting immigration & cracking down on overtime abuse. Part of it may be enacting a balanced trade policy to get more manufacturing jobs domestically. Part of it may simply be paying corporations to hire people at higher wages.Dave Pinsenhttp://twitter.com/dpinsennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42630754779666946392014-05-31T21:17:20.094-07:002014-05-31T21:17:20.094-07:00Wade's critics, and race-deniers in general, a...<i>Wade's critics, and race-deniers in general, are guilty of embracing the moralistic fallacy; i.e., that what ought to be corresponds with what is.</i><br /><br />I can't agree that it's a "moralistic fallacy" when there's no moral basis for wishing that the world were different from how it actually is. Morality has to do with human behavior. How does morality apply to the actions of God?ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85114713736228636322014-05-31T18:37:04.975-07:002014-05-31T18:37:04.975-07:00
1) Heavily subsidize decent paying, private secto...<br />1) Heavily subsidize decent paying, private sector jobs for the left half of the bell curve. If Danes can make $21 per hour working at McDonalds, we should move in that direction. This is the sugar to go with the medicine that follows.<br /><br />We already do this. The person working a minimum wage job qualifies for so many freebies that he would have to make $60k to afford all of that himself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28739962130880853262014-05-31T11:38:08.786-07:002014-05-31T11:38:08.786-07:00Realistically, there are a few different options. ...Realistically, there are a few different options. One is governing according to the lowest common denominator, an example of which is the TSA. We can't discriminate against the group most likely to be terrorists, so we hassle everyone.<br /><br />Three approaches taken together might have some promise:<br /><br />1) Heavily subsidize decent paying, private sector jobs for the left half of the bell curve. If Danes can make $21 per hour working at McDonalds, we should move in that direction. This is the sugar to go with the medicine that follows.<br /><br />2) Establish a voluntary eugenic policy: give poor people generous cash incentives to have 1 child or no children. Note that the fewer poor kids we have, the more generous we can be in caring for each of them.<br /><br />3) Stop net 3rd and 4th world immigration. <br /><br />4) Scrap affirmative action and disparate impact. 1) is the key to making this politically palatable for NAMs; taken together, they will be better off with 1) & 4). After all, the ones who suffer from incompetent firemen or physicians are likely to be those in NAM neighborhoods.Dave Pinsenhttp://twitter.com/dpinsennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46899004769242251142014-05-31T11:23:27.513-07:002014-05-31T11:23:27.513-07:00I don't know why the likes of Raff, Fuentes, a...I don't know why the likes of Raff, Fuentes, and Marks have any particular claim to object to Wade's book on scientific grounds. Anthropology is no longer a scientific discipline, if indeed it ever was one. Anthropologists themselves officially went on record that they consider science to be icky:<br /><br /><a href="http://blogs.nature.com/news/2010/11/hold_the_science_says_anthropo.html" rel="nofollow">Hold the Science</a>Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82420078134834988942014-05-31T09:54:28.059-07:002014-05-31T09:54:28.059-07:00I wouldn't be too confident about that. The de...<b>I wouldn't be too confident about that. The decisions will be made on political grounds. I'd back the sociologists to have a better chance of surviving any cuts. Sociologists and cultural anthropologists are better adapted to living in a world of political correctness. In this case natural selection will favour them.</b><br /><br />The problem for soc, anthro, and psych is their declining relevance for students. College is more and more a trade school. Their survival depends on sweeping deeper into the dregs to expand their market share. But the dregs do not find employment with a dumbed-down degree in soc/psych/anthro. Hence the colleges are shucking marginal programs like these in favor of more hands-on programs tied more to objective reality than politico-religious proselytizing. No 100 IQ kid takes on huge debt if his ability to pay it off depends upon getting freelance gigs writing PC book reviews like Mr. Marks & Friends.Big Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36966174591492867152014-05-31T07:30:04.594-07:002014-05-31T07:30:04.594-07:00"who looks like he should be playing goalie f..."who looks like he should be playing goalie for Argentina's World Cup team."<br /><br />Will you stop noticing, you big old noticer. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8059487626790859302014-05-31T05:09:00.136-07:002014-05-31T05:09:00.136-07:00Wade's critics, and race-deniers in general, a...Wade's critics, and race-deniers in general, are guilty of embracing the moralistic fallacy; i.e., that what ought to be corresponds with what is. Satoshi Kanazawa spends much time in his books disabusing the reader of both the moralistic and naturalistic fallacies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-261964570033637672014-05-30T21:21:47.895-07:002014-05-30T21:21:47.895-07:00"Precisely. Programs to create equal opportun..."Precisely. Programs to create equal opportunities have not resulted in equal outcomes. Wade's critics fear that the unequal outcomes they now attribute to racism & white privilege will be attributed to biological differences and they will be forced to drop their accusations of discrimination."<br />5/30/14, 3:49 AM<br /><br />We could base affirmative action on IQ but the outcome would still be the same. <br />Prof. Wolandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76484145713864068282014-05-30T15:41:33.308-07:002014-05-30T15:41:33.308-07:00@ Anon 3:23 "...presenting unproven theories ...@ Anon 3:23 "...presenting unproven theories to a lay audience."<br /><br />The horror. It's worth noting that the Renaissance, the Reformation, and the Enlightenment are held to have had mixed, but net positive effects on civilisation. <br /><br />Apparently, you disagree - without realising that.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19692997548817571562014-05-30T13:13:12.507-07:002014-05-30T13:13:12.507-07:00"The won't, can't cut the hard scienc..."The won't, can't cut the hard sciences...Yep, sociologists and cultural anthropologists...you're going to get the ax. "<br />_______________________<br />I wouldn't be too confident about that. The decisions will be made on political grounds. I'd back the sociologists to have a better chance of surviving any cuts. Sociologists and cultural anthropologists are better adapted to living in a world of political correctness. In this case natural selection will favour them.<br />_______________________________<br /><br />Well, the demands of the tech world and ironically, the demands of the eco-freaks demand advances in science.<br /><br />Very importantly, the demands of an aging population as well as an unhealthy (diabetes, for example) young and middle-aged population demand medical break-throughs.<br /><br />Hard sciences.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24136700013007176742014-05-30T12:22:26.615-07:002014-05-30T12:22:26.615-07:00"Perhaps her biggest claim to fame was landin...<i>"Perhaps her biggest claim to fame was landing a gig on BBC TV's iconic 'Tonight' review show way back in the 1970s."</i><br /><br />And perhaps that came about because of her relationship with Bernard Levin, at the time probably the most famous UK newspaper columnist (who, as is the way with famous newspaper columnists, is now almost totally forgotten).<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Levin#Arianna_Stassinopoulos_.28Huffington.29 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50053025259266361822014-05-30T11:05:05.884-07:002014-05-30T11:05:05.884-07:00The weakest spot of the blank slate nonsense and t...The weakest spot of the blank slate nonsense and the area where the truth would do the most good is in medicine.<br /><br />Almost every ailment will have one or more significant population specific factors.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80164051499077261392014-05-30T11:01:10.623-07:002014-05-30T11:01:10.623-07:00"lumpenintelligentsia"
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"I ..."lumpenintelligentsia"<br /><br />lol<br /><br />.<br /><br />"I just think it's a fascinating story - the Chinese are right at home in corruption and state-of-nature politics, they're going to pwn Africa in a decade or two"<br /><br />Maybe. I wonder if Africa's bugs will pwn them.<br /><br />Most of Africa is a bit like Afghanistan imo - a trap for the unadapted.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67747631634459473012014-05-30T10:14:37.369-07:002014-05-30T10:14:37.369-07:00Wade is evilWade is evilAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57504439227041542242014-05-30T08:02:32.868-07:002014-05-30T08:02:32.868-07:00Wade: "I don't care what the science may ...<i>Wade: "I don't care what the science may say because I'll never change my position."<br /><br />"How is this not an apt characterization of Wade's detractors?"<br /><br />I see where he's coming from. Suppose Bob has an IQ of 150 and John has 100. <br />Scientifically, Bob is a lot smarter. <br />But on political PRINCIPLE, I can still believe and support equal rights for both. <br /></i><br />I was assuming he was talking about Wade's book, not Wade's post re-asserting his belief in equality before the law. <br />So what's he suggesting? Our own set of Nuremburg laws to account for HBD? <br />If so, this is yet another reason we're doomed--wild-eyed youngsters will fulfill the left's prophecies. This guy, then, doesn't realize just whose side he's on.<br />I've always naively assumed the goal was turning back the stupidity of disparate impact and all the corruption and degradation that comes with it; allowing the truth to be known and the law to be applied equally, letting the chips fall where they may. As if <i>that</i> was a plausible alternative. What I schmuck I am.<br /><br />Stuff like this is why I mostly checked out years ago.Dennis Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03233729780363740881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27270791732393178022014-05-30T07:28:59.835-07:002014-05-30T07:28:59.835-07:00elitotarianism
http://www.spiked-online.c...elitotarianism<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/11143#.U4iVEXJdVA0Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41733464492965522542014-05-30T06:27:49.846-07:002014-05-30T06:27:49.846-07:00They are all anthropologists... Somehow (well, a ...<i> They are all anthropologists... Somehow (well, a very deliberate somehow) the field of anthropology went off the rails. It wasn't really about dead people, was it? </i><br /><br />Anthropologists are just Literature professors who spend time in huts. The rest of the time they are weaving narratives from a ball of wool labeled "my political beliefs." Any connection to reality that results is purely accidental and probably undesired. peterikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79796314162840806562014-05-30T05:46:45.938-07:002014-05-30T05:46:45.938-07:00JayMan said...
Let's not forget that I qu...<i> JayMan said...<br /><br /> Let's not forget that I quickly set Jonathan Marks straight when he wrote his review.</i><br /><br />So, you think you've cornered me, JayMan? Then a trap door unexpectedly opens and I jump through it. Ha ha!The Evil Dr. Marksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85104389284031703632014-05-30T05:34:38.628-07:002014-05-30T05:34:38.628-07:00As one commenter points out, Wade's fundamenta...As one commenter points out, Wade's fundamental principle seems to be that governments should treat all those that they govern equally. (or as another bunch of guys once put it, "... We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, [in] that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness[originally "property"]. - That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed ... "). <br /><br />Unfortunately, among those very persons who claim that race does not exist - and also among people of Wade's current ideological persuasion - are a large proportion of those who have worked tirelessly to ensure that contemporary governments divide their citizens into classes based on race and to ensure that these same governments treat citizens in these different, racially-based classes very, very unequally in matters such as access to education, jobs, government funding and other resources; criminal and civil legal proceedings; and civil rights, including freedom of association, freedom of speech, and freedom to participate freely in their own governance.<br /><br />Wade himself is afraid to fully come to grip with the facts, proven even beyond the usual standards of accepted scientific knowledge, that large and profound group differences exist between the largest racial categories, e.g., those often denoted caucasian, sub-saharan african, asian, australian, melanesian-polynesian, and american indian; that these include significant group differences in psychological traits such as intelligence, personality structure, and the strength of basic biological drives; and that as a result there are profound group differences among these races in how well, overall, their members adapt to and participate in modern polities, economies, and societies.<br /><br />Only a few brave souls have as yet chosen to address these latter issues and their implications. I don't think that the most appropriate term for such persons is "racist", although they are inevitably branded as such. They themselves often prefer the term "race-realist" and this is probably a more reasonable term.<br /><br />Only these people have even come within spitting distance of the most profound question: How can we reconcile the foundational principles of the Declaration of Independence with the realities of racial group differences in a multi-racial polity. <br /><br />Most persons on the public stage including Wade and essentially all of his critics have studiously avoided engaging this particular question. I can't blame them. If it were even known that I had openly framed the issue in this way I would probably lose my current position. Even Galileo recanted when sufficient pressure was applied.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79160846937932914012014-05-30T05:30:41.365-07:002014-05-30T05:30:41.365-07:00Imagine, the smarts and hardnosed-ness of China wi...<i>Imagine, the smarts and hardnosed-ness of China with the lebensraum and resources of Africa.</i><br /><br />Better start collecting breeding pairs of magnificent African fauna, because they are doomed.The Anti-Gnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04386593803225823789noreply@blogger.com