tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post1966427709300518746..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Atlantic: "Why Is the American Dream Dead in the South?"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56516873676483739282014-01-28T14:31:14.697-08:002014-01-28T14:31:14.697-08:00Jody said: "less discussed is that people in ...Jody said: "less discussed is that people in illinois and especially chicago are leaving and moving to indy. not a flood, as it is with people leaving california, but a steady flow, to escape high costs and high taxes."<br /><br />Mostly true. Plenty are moving to Wisconsin too… not necessarily "Indy" I.E. Indianapolis, per se. Chicago is slowly shrinking though. Great article here on Chicago's problem of holding on to its middle class: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-11-10/news/ct-edit-xproject6a-demog-20131110_1_chicago-census-population<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33022807139851536902014-01-28T11:21:18.366-08:002014-01-28T11:21:18.366-08:00There's Sailer, having a field day again. Pai...There's Sailer, having a field day again. Paid stooges, those NYT writers.Luke Leahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11290760894780619646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34122030830264997232014-01-27T21:11:15.576-08:002014-01-27T21:11:15.576-08:00About West Virginia, and other "hill country&...About West Virginia, and other "hill country" (from one of these places and have watched it change), the biggest factor is simply good roads (or the lack of them). <br /><br />Putting a modern superhighway into a town changes everything. Replacing some hairpin 2-lane thing on which it was dangerous to drive fast with something on which you can just peg it at 65 mph makes all the difference. It's easy to forget that there are still places that don't have good road connectivity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20443147444460611772014-01-27T21:02:17.762-08:002014-01-27T21:02:17.762-08:00>or was it the tennessee valley authority? crea...<b>></b>or was it the tennessee valley authority? created by the federal government because tennessee was SO backwards that in 1933 they were still using lamps instead of electricity.<br /><br />genuine question, no snark intended. i'm not familiar enough with the area. but i have heard there were some places where the people did not have electricity until AFTER WORLD WAR 2!<b><</b><br /><br />What you heard is correct. Even today many Tennesseans refer to their electric bill as "my light bill."<br /><br />I read in Ayn Rand's Letters that Chatsworth, California (where she lived in a house formerly inhabited by Marlene Dietrich) had no telephone service in 1946.<br /><br />Much of the country did not have TVs until the later 1950s. "Uncle Miltie" was strictly a northeastern metro phenomenon.<br /><br />AC didn't really come in until the 1940s. H.L. Mencken hated it - was against it. He elaborately blocked every AC duct in his vicinity with tape.<br /><br />Mexico City, outside the big hotels, is basically living in the late 1940s in some respects, for example the plumbing - which is supplied by water tanks on the top of buildings. I was astonished to discover, during Easter Week there, that the city shuts off what little modern water supplies they have, and the providers of water-tank water go on vacation. So that you have to husband your water during that week to make sure you don't run out.<br /><br />In the rest of the world, roughly half the population literally has no pot to piss in, i.e. about 3 billion people live and die without ever seeing a toilet.<br /><br />Civilized amenities, even in 2014, are a thin, spotty, recent line over a vast chasm of savagery.Davidhttp://david-passingparade3.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2714446051609868462014-01-27T19:43:04.541-08:002014-01-27T19:43:04.541-08:00my 500th post said...
"It's easy to see ... my 500th post said...<br /><br />"It's easy to see why making white flight difficult would be necessary under the old rubric in which municipal/county jobs are paid for by local taxes - conceivably if there are no whites to e.g. ride BART, then perhaps scores of BART jobs filled by blacks would face elimination. But under the developing pattern, in which the Federal govt. Subsidizes everything (and both education and public transportation already get much federal subsidy), there would seem to be no real need to hold whites in, save for plain old bad faith."<br /><br />1/27/14, 4:35 PM<br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />"All this is a digression," O'Brien added in a different tone. "The real power, the power we have to fight for night and day, is not power over things, but over men." He paused, and for a moment assumed again his air of a schoolmaster questioning a promising pupil: "How does one man assert his power over another, Winston?" <br /><br />Winston thought. "By making him suffer," he said. <br /><br />"Exactly. By making him suffer. Obedience is not enough. Unless he is suffering, how can you be sure that he is obeying your will and not his own? Power is in inflicting pain and humiliation."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53337687550156461372014-01-27T18:08:18.868-08:002014-01-27T18:08:18.868-08:00I was born in the Midwest in 1942. We did not get ...I was born in the Midwest in 1942. We did not get electricity on the farm until around 1951. Why? Because the distances between customers was so great the electric companies would not spend the money. Much like Internet service in the rural areas today.<br /><br />People lobbied and the government came up with an agency, REA. I think it means Rural Electrification Agency or something like that.<br /><br />So, pole were installed, wires were strung. Once they were in place, and it became obvious the farmers would use electricity at a profitable level, the electric companies which had refused to supply electricity started suing that their franchises were being violated.<br /><br />I think my brother's farm is now serviced not by REA or REC but by one of those original companies that wouldn't build the lines.<br /><br />Anonymous age 71<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91733293269976182282014-01-27T17:07:21.140-08:002014-01-27T17:07:21.140-08:00Ads are less funny because they appeal only to wom...Ads are less funny because they appeal only to women. Who have essentially no sense of humor.Whiskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59192200268512313752014-01-27T16:35:40.730-08:002014-01-27T16:35:40.730-08:00It's easy to see why making white flight diffi...It's easy to see why making white flight difficult would be necessary under the old rubric in which municipal/county jobs are paid for by local taxes - conceivably if there are no whites to e.g. ride BART, then perhaps scores of BART jobs filled by blacks would face elimination. But underr the developing pattern, in which the federal govt. Subsidizes everything (and both education and public transportation already get much federal subsidy), there would seem to be no real need to hold whites in, save for plain old bad faith.my 500th postnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41525848829367991972014-01-27T16:21:03.328-08:002014-01-27T16:21:03.328-08:00"""""The thing about the ...<br />"""""The thing about the southern backs is that they retain their African cultural trait of a sense of fun and joy for living. Old blacks are forever lost in the history of race hate, but with younger southern blacks, when you break the ice with friendly conversation, their innate good cheer bubbles out. They are fundamentally happy people."""""<br /><br /><br />Be careful, that's what antebellum Slave owners claimed. That their blacks were more or less happy and contented and why should the mean ol' abolitionists wanna rock the boat?<br /><br /><br /><br />"""""Southern blacks are less mobile because they like their cultural situation.""""<br /><br /><br />Which part do they like? The 85% out of wedlock births? Lots of joy and mirth going on, apparently. The 3rd rate education that they receive? The high crime in the cities? <br /><br />Again, which part are they truly happy and content with? But then, if they consider these things to be part of their culture, then so be it. <br /><br />So long as they're happy, apparently that's really all that counts.<br /><br />Gotcha.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24847881656281785402014-01-27T16:18:43.174-08:002014-01-27T16:18:43.174-08:00Advertisements are less memorable now, because whi...Advertisements are less memorable now, because white women hate hate HATE Terry Tate, Office Linebacker.Amrut 46%noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64949060904134247612014-01-27T16:09:59.552-08:002014-01-27T16:09:59.552-08:00When I clicked the country-singer Youtube link abo...When I clicked the country-singer Youtube link above I got treated to an ad about how Red Bull was helping Detroit become vibrant again. I suspect this particular spot won't age as well as the Xerox scrivener or GM's suicidal factory robot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59950961337469750962014-01-27T15:44:09.778-08:002014-01-27T15:44:09.778-08:00"As an aside, parts of Tennessee are not real..."As an aside, parts of Tennessee are not really "better" in the sense you mean. There are geographically chopped up, ethnically homogenous parts of TN, too. And these look a lot like WV, at least to me."<br /><br />Except that those bad mountain areas of Tennessee aren't nearly as bad as those of West Virginia. The mountain valleys in Tennessee are much broader and as a result the communities are less isolated and more on the ball than those of WV. Also, the mountains of TN are more impressively massive and easier for tourists to get to than those of WV. Hence the more tourist dollars that TN gets relative to WV.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62719180377439026732014-01-27T14:48:13.907-08:002014-01-27T14:48:13.907-08:00There is good reason for northern blacks to move t...There is good reason for northern blacks to move to the south. The black culture of the south is much more friendly and conducive to a good life. There is still a psychological divide between blacks and whites (something the whites just cannot give up) – but the Bull Conner days are long past – and there is kind of a benign separation between the two races (one of the few accomplishments of the law in the last sixty years).<br /><br />This situation leaves the southern black to pretty much live in his own culture. The thing about the southern backs is that they retain their African cultural trait of a sense of fun and joy for living. Old blacks are forever lost in the history of race hate, but with younger southern blacks, when you break the ice with friendly conversation, their innate good cheer bubbles out. They are fundamentally happy people.<br /><br />Southern blacks are less mobile because they like their cultural situation.<br /><br />p.s. Surprise surprise – in a cacophony of pseudo intellectualism the metro liberal professor somehow managed to find the north good and the south bad - ho hum. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50367617276002345442014-01-27T13:53:18.802-08:002014-01-27T13:53:18.802-08:00"I've kind of put out arguments here befo..."I've kind of put out arguments here before about how certain places are destined to be poor if you look at a map and have some knowledge of the terrain. The genetic aspects of West Virginia (Scotch-Irish) might have something to do with it. But other states with similar demographics did better, Tennessee"<br /><br />or was it the tennessee valley authority? created by the federal government because tennessee was SO backwards that in 1933 they were still using lamps instead of electricity.<br /><br />genuine question, no snark intended. i'm not familiar enough with the area. but i have heard there were some places where the people did not have electricity until AFTER WORLD WAR 2!<br /><br />all of world war 2 was fought and vast regions had no electric light or even telephones.jodynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9837545151514222502014-01-27T12:39:42.340-08:002014-01-27T12:39:42.340-08:00Why doesn't the liberal left, who loves IVF, p...Why doesn't the liberal left, who loves IVF, put white and East Asian sperm and eggs inside black people so all of their offspring will be mulattos and Blasians?<br /><br />Or is "lightening" blacks with White and East Asian sperm and eggs completely racist?<br /><br />I'm serious. Liberals are alright with IVF. Why not "improve" African-American genetic material by only allowing people to have mixed race offspring?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86407978304478216812014-01-27T12:30:32.596-08:002014-01-27T12:30:32.596-08:00If the solutions to this problem ought to include ...<i>If the solutions to this problem ought to include racial ones (by no means is this obvious), then it's more segregation that would be in order, not less.</i><br /><br />It's important we make plain that more Segregation need not be the solution - just more Freedom. Given more Freedom, more Segregation will inevitably be the outcome. This is a nice, big, fat chink in the leftist armor; Freedom and leftism are at odds.<br /><br /><i>I've kind of put out arguments here before about how certain places are destined to be poor if you look at a map and have some knowledge of the terrain.<br /><br />The genetic aspects of West Virginia (Scotch-Irish) might have something to do with it. But other states with similar demographics did better, Tennessee and even Texas.<br /><br />You might bring up Switzerland, and say that smart people make the desert bloom as it were.<br /><br />Kind of think there is more to it than that. Anyone here know enough of both places to contrast them with an eye to geography and land details?</i><br /><br />I think there's probably a pretty good correlation between how mountainous an area is and poverty. I think that's Appalachia's main problem. The land is more expensive to develop, and more expensive to travel even when it is developed, so, it gets developed last and more backward types tend to remain in the meantime. But that all seems fairly obvious so maybe you're asking for something else?<br /><br /><i>They could change their mind any old time, though. Just as they could change their mind about leaving the Amish alone.</i><br /><br />As I hear it, they left the Amish alone because the Amish were willing to go to prison, rather than compromise on their beliefs. I don't know if they're still cut from the same cloth, but if they are, I think that puts them past the threshold of what the regime wants to mess with; there are many more suitable targets available.<br /><br /><i>When rapidly shifting Clayton County (from 80% white to 80% AA in 30 years) got its first black sheriff (Victor Hill) he posted snipers on the rooftops across the streets to provide "security" as he promptly fired 30+ white staffers in the dept on his first day in office.</i><br /><br />I guarantee you can find that one at Amren under the "blacks in charge" tag.<br /><br /><i>But blacks are a full standard deviation behind whites in IQ, so you really can't control for it. At best you can only take those blacks who are at the same IQ as whites and that number is going to be quite small, infinitesimal.</i><br /><br />I think his point was that it was evidence of meritocracy.Svigornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38908529009738048072014-01-27T09:51:49.621-08:002014-01-27T09:51:49.621-08:00No mystery here: blacks are leaving the Rust Belt/...No mystery here: blacks are leaving the Rust Belt/Freeze belt and heading back down South, where at least one won't freeze your tail off half the year.Dutch Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02687679491743923216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10493233343708491412014-01-27T09:50:04.212-08:002014-01-27T09:50:04.212-08:00Matthew O'Brien tries to have it both ways in ...Matthew O'Brien tries to have it both ways in this screed. He says that institutions are largely irrelevant, leading his mind to race, but then when he deals with race, he's too scared to go there and says that institutions make all the difference.<br /><br />Drop a book about HBD in O'Brien's lap. Either he'll have an epiphany or a mental breakdown.<br /><br />Re West Virginia: I'm not clear about something. Is this study relating to people who stay in those same geographical units, or a study of people who started out there and went somewhere else? If it's the latter, then the explanation for WV being light colored is the notion that anyone with any sort of "get up and go" got up and went. The reason, therefore, WV would be light colored is that the West Virginians who were West Virginians when this study started now live elsewhere and are doing much better, because they had to go elsewhere in order to do much better.<br /><br />Also: Is this purely a study of upward income mobility? Or is it bi-directional? A red area might be red because of income stagnancy, but in terms of it was rich before and it's still rich. It is possible to have income mobility by being rich then becoming something other than rich.countenancehttp://countenance.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53822252967929614802014-01-27T09:39:49.726-08:002014-01-27T09:39:49.726-08:00"Liberals have always hated the reality that ..."Liberals have always hated the reality that white people were able to flee the social engineering that destroyed their urban communities. They absolutely despise that white suburbs exist that can provide a father in Maryland an inexpensive and safe place to raise his family without having to brave the horror of Baltimore."<br /><br />That's a great point.<br /><br />I was listening to NPR the other day and they had a piece on de facto school segregation due to white flight. Atlanta was very proud that they had re-drawn their city boundaries to "capture"--that's a direct quote--white families trying to flee the Atlanta school system.<br /><br />Also, the corollary to the whole piece was that the only way to improve a black failing school district is to get some white kids in. Can you imagine if a conservative said such a thing?<br /><br />Living in the NJ burbs my school system is fine with lots of middle class black kids whose families have fled the neighboring school systems which are disastrous. However, they did force each new development to build low income condos that are invariably filled with criminals, single moms, drug addicts, etc. <br /><br />They really need to rub our noses in "diversity".<br /><br /><br />Andrew Ryannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10500503405605437642014-01-27T09:11:08.984-08:002014-01-27T09:11:08.984-08:00i have lived in both charlotte and indianapolis. g...i have lived in both charlotte and indianapolis. growing cities with steady economic development, infrastructure improvement, and nice suburbs. the author is wrong, obviously. growth in charlotte is explosive, and i've stated before that my opinion is north carolina is the best state in the south.<br /><br />less discussed is that people in illinois and especially chicago are leaving and moving to indy. not a flood, as it is with people leaving california, but a steady flow, to escape high costs and high taxes.jodynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-35637527140855529372014-01-27T08:40:32.499-08:002014-01-27T08:40:32.499-08:00"""Controlling for IQ (AFQT), black..."""Controlling for IQ (AFQT), blacks and whites have the same probability of rising out of the bottom economic quintile""""<br /><br /><br />But blacks are a full standard deviation behind whites in IQ, so you really can't control for it. At best you can only take those blacks who are at the same IQ as whites and that number is going to be quite small, infinitesimal. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />>>Sunbeam said:<br />""You might bring up Switzerland, and say that smart people make the desert bloom as it were."""<br /><br /><br />Sunny, what are you saying There's no desert in the alps!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51458356118193830762014-01-27T07:44:30.748-08:002014-01-27T07:44:30.748-08:00Saw Hsu's post a few weeks ago. Surprised this...Saw Hsu's post a few weeks ago. Surprised this isn't entering the mainstream since it references a Pew study.<br /><br />Or maybe that's what the pre-K mania is about? Raising the IQs of Blacks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29372683833110508162014-01-27T07:05:45.963-08:002014-01-27T07:05:45.963-08:00It was fascinating to watch Atlantic commenters ge...It was fascinating to watch Atlantic commenters get the vapors last night when the real Steve Sailer showed up.poolsidenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52106614338909900392014-01-27T07:04:34.735-08:002014-01-27T07:04:34.735-08:00Of course her hits are "co-written" by w...<i>Of course her hits are "co-written" by white guys pushing 40.</i><br /><br />And in the case of Shane McAnally, a gay white man pushing 40.<br /><br />Grammy voters don't care about country music. They just want to make a political statement.poolsidenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4046946097169216052014-01-27T06:14:01.039-08:002014-01-27T06:14:01.039-08:00Rashid, who moved to Atlanta from Queens last year...<i>Rashid, who moved to Atlanta from Queens last year after he graduated with a degree in criminology but could not find a job in New York.<br />In Atlanta, he became a deputy sheriff within weeks. She is hoping to open a restaurant.</i><br /><br />He got a job with either the DeKalb or Clayton county sheriff's department.<br /><br />When rapidly shifting Clayton County (from 80% white to 80% AA in 30 years) got its first black sheriff (Victor Hill) he posted snipers on the rooftops across the streets to provide "security" as he promptly fired 30+ white staffers in the dept on his first day in office.<br /><br />http://www.foxnews.com/story/2005/01/04/sheriff-deploys-snipers-after-firing-dozens/<br /><br />The blacks there keep electing him to office, despite being under federal and state indictment right now.<br /><br />Camlostnoreply@blogger.com