tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post200916949489156297..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: The stand-up comics' cartelUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger126125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90696279394767548912013-06-22T04:29:01.006-07:002013-06-22T04:29:01.006-07:00I think Robert Schimmel was the funniest standup c...I think Robert Schimmel was the funniest standup comic ever. Just a stream of pure filth, via everyday observations. ("So I went in for a colonoscopy ...")<br /><br />He was Jewish, and obviously so (his mannerisms, his Noo Yawk accent) but he rarely ever mentioned it. And he never talked politics. It was all sex and bathroom stuff, but he did it with a certain class. He was one of a kind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32000661212182262972013-06-21T15:27:46.414-07:002013-06-21T15:27:46.414-07:00http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Wright
Shocki...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Wright<br /><br />Shocking. Italian-American Catholic/Scotch Irish. <br /><br />There has to be Jewish blood somewhere there. His sensibility is soooo brilliantly and absurdly Jewish. <br /><br />http://youtu.be/F5ErMolRE8MAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75798711074701807032013-06-21T12:09:58.808-07:002013-06-21T12:09:58.808-07:00"He traces the roots of the post 60's com..."He traces the roots of the post 60's comedy starting with Lenny Bruce personalizing comedy(like rock)and shows how it gave birth to many new completely different strains from Pryor, Carlin to Klein and ending with the mainstreaming comic Jerry Seinfeld."<br /><br />Good point. It went from an act to an art, from entertainment to social critique/satire and personal expression. <br />Bruce was to stand up comedy what Dylan was to popular music. They turned it into personal art. <br /><br />But the problem with comedy, especially stand-up comedy, is you have to make people laugh at all times. Thus, it is limited as a form of personal expression. Dylan, working in music, could be funny, sad, romantic, spiritual, sardonic, and etc. <br />But stand-up comics, no matter how personal or critical, must be funny at all times. <br />So, while it can be witty and brilliant, it's not really an art. <br /><br />Dangerfield had the best personality. Steve Wright did for stand up comedy what Larson of FAR SIDE did for cartooning. Really one of a kind. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39614668201809155652013-06-20T22:04:36.163-07:002013-06-20T22:04:36.163-07:00"bill burr demonstrates how to handle heckler...<br />"bill burr demonstrates how to handle hecklers, in THE worst city in america for that"<br /><br />Ugh these comedians can be such pussies ,they can dish it out(much of comedy is insult comedy where you skewer and lambast various personalities and (allowed) groups)<br />but they cant take it out<br /><br />As long as hecklers do it right- call out some really bad jokes/lame PC gags, Im all for them.Dr Van Nostrandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85320085011801875512013-06-20T19:31:24.779-07:002013-06-20T19:31:24.779-07:00I didn't care to hear George Carlin's word...I didn't care to hear George Carlin's words, but when he imitated a piece of bacon sizzling in the pan, it was one of the funniest things I ever --- saw. I mean, the man became a piece of bacon.<br /> <br />Another extremely funny visual was by a woman comedian -- I can never recall her name because her humor is mostly repellant -- imitating Barbara Streisand who was being forced to endure the adulation of a fan with cancer. My god her impression was good. Neither Streisand nor any other faux-god/goddess would ever appear in same light after thatelainenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83772826043754658382013-06-20T19:17:38.713-07:002013-06-20T19:17:38.713-07:00"That's such BS--they toe the liberal lin...<br /><br />"That's such BS--they toe the liberal line, that's it. They challenge nothing." <br /><br />Cail has already pointed out the flaw in your response. (Thanks, Cail!) <br /><br />Again, for those playing at home: Leno's popularity is in large part driven by the lower cognitive demands of his humor, and most critics suspect that Jay himself is not as "smart" as the favored comedians. I suspect that he isn't as smart, but then smart and funny are largely orthogonal.Education Realisthttp://educationrealist.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2945477629009268712013-06-20T17:45:55.060-07:002013-06-20T17:45:55.060-07:00W.F. Buckley, Jr., v. Woody "Allen"/Koen...W.F. Buckley, Jr., v. Woody "Allen"/Koenigsberg (a german-language place name!):<br /><br />http://youtu.be/GNErWi_lTig<br /><br />Nothing special there, really. Kibernetikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31070504525292953502013-06-20T15:29:20.916-07:002013-06-20T15:29:20.916-07:00"bill burr demonstrates how to handle heckler...<i>"bill burr demonstrates how to handle hecklers, in THE worst city in america for that"</i><br /><br />A better (and briefer) job of dealing with a heckler by Amy Schumer: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=RD02d_JgmrOcDUY&v=l1ufqh6xoyY&NR=1&feature=endscreen" rel="nofollow">Amy v. Heckler</a>Dave Pinsenhttp://twitter.com/dpinsennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17130495746596593602013-06-20T14:47:12.497-07:002013-06-20T14:47:12.497-07:00patton talks about why blade 3 sucked so bad and e...patton talks about why blade 3 sucked so bad and early signs that wesley snipes was losing it:<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/bd3o2pt<br /><br />bill burr demonstrates how to handle hecklers, in THE worst city in america for that:<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/7ec7uxrjodynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56445120214288299042013-06-20T13:53:10.883-07:002013-06-20T13:53:10.883-07:00A discussion of rape jokes might include the homos...<i>A discussion of rape jokes might include the homosexual rape by a gorilla that concludes the caper in “Trading Places."</i><br /><br />A hateful, dishonest anti-hbd (and Jewish-made, unsurprisingly - I'm Jewish btw) film. I'm embarrassed to say I liked it when it came out, but then again I was 12.<br /><br /><i>Russell Brand absolutely dominated the Morning Joe bunch on MSNBC. He made them look like buffoons</i> <br /><br />They ARE buffoons, each blow-dried liberal one of them. I'm not a Brand fan, but at least he's a human being, not a humorless phony line-towing careerist liberal cipher like Mika Brzezinski and Katty Kay, and that was a pleasure to watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDCtFTyw6fI<br /><br />green mambanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62775620486869610332013-06-20T13:41:37.104-07:002013-06-20T13:41:37.104-07:00"star disk jockeys playing other people's...<i>"star disk jockeys playing other people's music have taken away a lot of the music industry revenue that used to go to the bands' themselves when they toured"</i><br /><br /><br />Back in the day (60s/70s, maybe even 80s) you toured (and lost money) to increase album sales (where the money was).<br /><br />Now everyone gets your stuff off the Web, and touring is where the money is. And comedians don't need much in the way of musicians, effects. The Brit comedian Michael MacIntyre played to nearly 700,000 people in 2012. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10558253668518305672013-06-20T12:50:18.728-07:002013-06-20T12:50:18.728-07:00The more intelligent ones, who also happen to be t...<br />The more intelligent ones, who also happen to be the most successful ones, are better at hiding it, but it's there.<br />btw, I don't believe the majority of comedians have college degrees. Most of the ones I knew weren't that bright, although sometimes it's hard to tell since many of them are potheads, coke heads, drunks, adderall enthusiasts or all of the above.<br />In any case, all comedians are aspiring cult leaders. It's like the prime directive of their occupation. To get as many people as possible who can't think as quickly as them, to follow them."<br /><br />I never understood why people often ask comedians for their opinion on serious matter such as politics, religion,history,war,technology and such.<br /><br />What exactly qualifies Bill Maher,Chris Rock,Russel Brand,Norm MacDonald,Dennis Miller,Adam Carolla,Ricky Gervais et al to expound on these matters?Dr Van Nostrandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16644055035288072972013-06-20T11:47:12.279-07:002013-06-20T11:47:12.279-07:00I'm sure Steve is right about Bob Hope's i...I'm sure Steve is right about Bob Hope's innovation, but I've always had a hard time seeing anything funny about him. Maybe his persona just doesn't appeal to me. But I go way back. I remember watching and enjoying George Gobel, Sam Levinson, Herb Shriner and the like. I liked standups better than sitcoms. Some of them weren't as funny as I remember them — Jackie Gleason and Red Skelton spring to mind. And Jack Benny did do stand-up to some extent on his TV show, and I still think he was funny. Funnier than George Burns. And speaking of Benny, let us not forget Benny Hill, though his standup was pretty opaque for nonBrits. Somebody ought to do a comic strip about a <a href="http://baloo-standupguy.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Stand-up Guy.</a>Baloohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08245765878554696634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84814687822753253292013-06-20T11:39:58.014-07:002013-06-20T11:39:58.014-07:00What worries me as a someone who is far more sympa...What worries me as a someone who is far more sympathetic to Christian conservatism but who none the less reads this site, is that going forward a lot of comics will start telling jokes on alt right themes but that the sugar to force the bitter pill down will be an even greater penchant for Christian bashing. <br /><br />As for Jesnelnik, at the Flav o Flav (I think it was Flav) roast he responded to Patrice O'Neal's comment that there weren't enough black people here to get that joke with "You know what no one ever says not enough black people." It was a remarkably quick comeback, but still it is shocking he got away with it. That said Kat Williams is still complaining about being hoodwinked into hosting that roast and claiming it was basically a modern day minstrel show. <br /><br />The O'Neal Dipaolo repartee was excellent on Tough Crowd. Which is strange because I don't think Dipaolo's stand up is funny at all. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87734428136279041322013-06-20T11:37:27.868-07:002013-06-20T11:37:27.868-07:00I have no idea what Steve means here by 'carte...I have no idea what Steve means here by 'cartel.' In any event, the funniest thing I've ever seen was Letterman's GE handshake bit. If only he'd kept making fun of corporate life. <br /><br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V6IU9tfXDohelene edwardsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15509655441551500052013-06-20T11:28:19.611-07:002013-06-20T11:28:19.611-07:00"You might think that comedians would be bett..."You might think that comedians would be better than the unfunny at noticing things outside the Who-Whom identity politics framework" <br /><br />Comedian Doug Stanhope has been pointing out for years that for some reason it's OK to make rape jokes where the male is the victim but not when it's a female. Despite his success, he lives in a small town in Arizona and not LA or NYC and doesn't fall for the group think in those comic communities. Stanhope is the funniest standup you will ever see, should you see him. <br /><br />Also, there are plenty of stand ups who have no desire to get that sit-com deal. Brian Reagan, for instance. There's a lot of money to be made on the road and although it requires a lot of travel, it's not so grueling once you've made it. Many successful professionals have to log a lot of miles these days, but they don't get to say, take months off at a time and live wherever they want, the way successful comedians get to. Sitcoms can also be a trap because, like everything in Hollywood, it can all fall apart tomorrow, whereas the standup career of a veteran can only decline slowly at worst. The opportunity costs of trying a sitcom can be expensive, because it can be easy to lose your chops and your road crowd and because LA is a horrible place to get stage time, even if you have been on TV. Stand up fans aren't necessarily loyal to those who defect to TV. Jay Leno is only the best example of this. <br /><br />Louis CK is working his ass by continuing to tour like crazy while having a successful show, because he knows that his live audience is his real pay check and wants to make sure they will be around after the show is cancelled. <br /><br />The big problem in live comedy these days is that many things are now working in reverse: instead of standups getting sitcom deals, you have ex-sitcom stars who never put in the years to learn standup skills suddenly taking over stage time because their famous name gets the billing. Most people don't realize that comic acting and stand up comedy require very different skills, albeit with some overlap. Usually a good standup can pull off comic acting at least a little bit, whereas many comic actors can't do standup at all. Comedy without a setting and a talented cast around you is a completely different ballgame. But, I digress...Vannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2892648704868310932013-06-20T11:16:48.975-07:002013-06-20T11:16:48.975-07:00"Oswalt has made his way over to Taki's m..."Oswalt has made his way over to Taki's mag a couple of times to read Gavin McInnes".<br /><br />He was also a friend of Taki's writer Jim Goad during the Answer Me! era, so I doubt that he really is such an uptight PC dweeb. Expressing unpopular opinions is not a good move for a show business person, but it's especially not a good move for a guy that looks like him.Marc Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15526121114466617234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42416945021755993202013-06-20T11:02:18.190-07:002013-06-20T11:02:18.190-07:00In 1990 Andrew Dice Clay sold out Madison Square G...In 1990 Andrew Dice Clay sold out Madison Square Gardens on back to back nights, which is a curious bit of history.C. Van Carterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09918883799053031223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60805247323529881502013-06-20T10:54:05.249-07:002013-06-20T10:54:05.249-07:00Norm Macdonald is really funny. Norm Macdonald is really funny. C. Van Carterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09918883799053031223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41287984033843504682013-06-20T10:49:14.974-07:002013-06-20T10:49:14.974-07:00The Emergence of Intellectual Property Norms in St...<a href="http://law.bepress.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2657&context=alea&sei-redir=1&referer=http%3A%2F%2Fscholar.google.com%2Fscholar%3Fhl%3Den%26q%3Djokes%2Bstand%2Bup%2Bintellectual%2Bproperty%26btnG%3D%26as_sdt%3D1%252C48%26as_sdtp%3D#search=%22jokes%20stand%20up%20intellectual%20property%22" rel="nofollow">The Emergence of Intellectual Property Norms in Stand-Up comedy</a>. C. Van Carterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09918883799053031223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13245761496360183432013-06-20T10:36:05.502-07:002013-06-20T10:36:05.502-07:00@x:
Thank you. Why nobody ever calls out Hicks as...@x:<br /><br />Thank you. Why nobody ever calls out Hicks as the talentless hack he was is one of the wonders of existence. mel bellinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70780579286307596872013-06-20T10:28:45.654-07:002013-06-20T10:28:45.654-07:00@Luke Lea:
So as an example of how funny Chappell...@Luke Lea:<br /><br />So as an example of how funny Chappelle is, you suggest his mendacious cliches of how cops treat blacks? Wow, that's good stuff. not a hackernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-35524997719009412482013-06-20T10:03:37.612-07:002013-06-20T10:03:37.612-07:00Circle Star Theatre, front row, in San Carlos
Saw...<i>Circle Star Theatre, front row, in San Carlos</i><br /><br />Saw Pryor there in '76. He explained everything about differing life outcomes, thusly:<br /><br />"White people walk like this" (tight, hurried). "Black people walk like this." (loose, languid). helene edwardsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46634740448571498302013-06-20T09:46:00.284-07:002013-06-20T09:46:00.284-07:00Woody Allen has been making rape jokes for decades...Woody Allen has been making rape jokes for decades. <br /><br />"I was told that my ex-wife was violated in the street, and I said, 'Well I know for certain it wasn't a moving violation.'"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29444764291221308932013-06-20T09:40:11.648-07:002013-06-20T09:40:11.648-07:00You guys would all dig Anthony Jeselnik's stan...You guys would all dig Anthony Jeselnik's stand up, as he hammers on more alt-right themes than any comedian I've ever seen. I suspect he's a closet iSteve reader, too. Enter "Anthony Jeselnik" and "Google Search and Destroy" into YouTube for evidence. Honestly, I don't know how he gets away with it, but I'm glad he does.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com