tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post2082965437185865295..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Was I wrong about the Rodney King riots?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48836635262467492672012-05-04T00:12:12.821-07:002012-05-04T00:12:12.821-07:00"Take a look at amy strongman contest and you...<i>"Take a look at amy strongman contest and you'll see fewer blacks then in the NHL. Blacks only wield a mental advantage because whites have been 'psyched out' by political correctness and fears of being called a "racist" - the modern day equivalent of calling someone a homosexual in Victorian times."</i><br /><br />The average white schlub fears even the scrawniest black will suddenly flip out throw a punches like Joe Frazier.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90334783804284988152012-05-02T13:06:44.518-07:002012-05-02T13:06:44.518-07:00From my experience in the American South it doesn&...<i>From my experience in the American South it doesn't seem to exist there, either</i><br /><br />I really wish I could give some juicy personal anecdotes, but I don't want to get anyone in trouble - some of it is still an open question, legally speaking.Svigorhttp://svigor.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73935268229321057652012-05-02T13:04:35.225-07:002012-05-02T13:04:35.225-07:00Blacks only wield a mental advantage because white...<i>Blacks only wield a mental advantage because whites have been 'psyched out' by political correctness and fears of being called a "racist" - the modern day equivalent of calling someone a homosexual in Victorian times.</i><br /><br />I think blacks have an edge in fighting (and certain athletic fields), but that's all it is, an edge, <i>on average</i>. And yes, part of it is psychological.Svigorhttp://svigor.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82116609146828121802012-05-02T12:59:21.127-07:002012-05-02T12:59:21.127-07:00Even if the black guy doesn't use a gun, an an...<i>Even if the black guy doesn't use a gun, an angry black guy can beat up just about any non-black guy.</i><br /><br />That's crazy talk. Have you ever lived near significant numbers of blacks?Svigorhttp://svigor.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48788035371830413032012-05-02T10:37:30.690-07:002012-05-02T10:37:30.690-07:00Re: Simon of London and Anon:
"So many have b...Re: Simon of London and Anon:<br />"So many have bought into this "black superman" nonsense. Its almost a weird neo-inversion of the Nazi (German) "superman" of ages past."<br /><br />The other thing is that white American males, especially those on the large size (i.e. 6 foot/ 180lbs and up) seem to me to be under serious societal/media pressure NOT to be seen as in any way aggressive or even assertive (outside of sports). Otherwise they're "jerks", "sexist pigs" or "bullies". <br /><br />There is no such pressure on black males -- that's for sure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3264947887365463402012-05-02T10:15:56.385-07:002012-05-02T10:15:56.385-07:00Someone's probably already said this, given th...Someone's probably already said this, given the number of comments but, Google's a limited search system for say, published commentary from the early 1990s given its natural prejudice for online material. You need Nexus Lexus or JStor to see what black publications, newspapers, magazines were saying about the LA riot. I wouldn't rule your theory out...but as you once said:<br />Whites have got<br />culpability <br />and we have notAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16174408632428708682012-05-02T02:24:56.362-07:002012-05-02T02:24:56.362-07:00Anon:
"So many have bought into this "bl...Anon:<br />"So many have bought into this "black superman" nonsense. Its almost a weird neo-inversion of the Nazi (German) "superman" of ages past."<br /><br />As a meme, 'black superman' seems to be exclusive to the USA, it doesn't seem to exist in the UK. From my experience in the American South it doesn't seem to exist there, either - it seems to start in Washington DC and run up the coast from there. <br /><br />I'm guessing it's part of a 'flight or fight' threat reaction; white non-Southern Americans decided on 'Flight' in the late '60s, then developed this meme to retroactively justify it. In 1940s Detroit white mobs would happily clash with black mobs, showing no sign of this meme. Likewise in 21st century Birmingham, Pakistani mobs would happily fight with Afro-Caribbeans - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Birmingham_race_riots - apparently unaware they were supposed to flee in terror at the sight of black rioters.Simon in Londonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23470877657379668302012-05-02T02:11:14.619-07:002012-05-02T02:11:14.619-07:00Mr Anon:
"I don't understand your quibble...Mr Anon:<br />"I don't understand your quibble with my point. Proposition Nation, We're All the Same, Necon types - is that an irrelevant group? There are a lot more of them - a lot more, by far - than there are of us, certainly among those in the crowd with political and media influence."<br /><br />I take your point - I was giving a personal perspective; for *me* Katrina caused revulsion with the US Federal government, with Fox News (except Shep Smith's in-city reports) and with neocon types like Mark Steyn who blamed the black underclass population of N.O. for not helping themselves. If anything, I'd say the black population of N.O. behaved slightly *better* than I'd have expected, the surrounding whites behaved slightly worse, and the Federal govt behaved far worse - first inaction, then sealing off the city and treating it as a war zone.<br /><br />But, apparently a large swathe of Americans actually did expect the people of N.O. to behave like white Minnesotans, and condemned them for not doing so. They also expected the city government to behave with great competence. So I suppose that may have been a wake up call for them, just as you said.Simon in Londonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63333418362763511002012-05-01T21:21:16.458-07:002012-05-01T21:21:16.458-07:00"..an angry black guy can beat up just about ..."..an angry black guy can beat up just about any non-black guy."<br /><br />So many have bought into this "black superman" nonsense. Its almost a weird neo-inversion of the Nazi (German) "superman" of ages past. <br /><br />Take a look at amy strongman contest and you'll see fewer blacks then in the NHL.<br /><br />Blacks only wield a mental advantage because whites have been 'psyched out' by political correctness and fears of being called a "racist" - the modern day equivalent of calling someone a homosexual in Victorian times.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66867936013741413212012-05-01T20:23:33.724-07:002012-05-01T20:23:33.724-07:00"Anonymous said...
There was one prominent ..."Anonymous said...<br /><br /> There was one prominent black hero in the RK riots: Bobby Green. Instead of running around trying to upgrade his home entertainment system or get a new set of radial tires, he was quietly sitting at home, watching the mayhem on TV. When he saw on a news chopper feed local savages pulling Denny out of a semi stalled at a nearby intersection, Green hustled outside to (in his words) save a brother truck driver.<br /><br />After he reached the scene he climbed into Denny's truck cab and drove him to the hospital. Later, some national news reporter had the gall to ask him why Denny got beaten; Green matter of factly replied:"Because he was white.""<br /><br />Mr. Green is indeed a hero and a good man.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38922699982903683132012-05-01T17:52:35.447-07:002012-05-01T17:52:35.447-07:00"My second point was that American race riots..."My second point was that American race riots aren't very serious. The Rodney King riots were the worst of the modern race riots and they had rather low body count - only 53 deaths." <br /><br />But lots of people got beat up and lots of property was damaged. Also, rioting was limited to LA but spread all over the country. In the college town where I was at, some white people got beaten up by blacks over King, and that happened in other parts too. That's all gone down the memory hole.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83612132209070275042012-05-01T14:54:01.122-07:002012-05-01T14:54:01.122-07:00Last week I wrote a long comment on these riots bu...Last week I wrote a long comment on these riots but I guess I came off a little too militant and you wouldn't publish it. Let me just repeat a couple key points. <br /><br />First read Lou Cannon's book. Eight hundred pages. A great book. Almost everything I thought I knew was wrong. <br /><br />My second point was that American race riots aren't very serious. The Rodney King riots were the worst of the modern race riots and they had rather low body count - only 53 deaths. We lose 53 people each year in America to bee stings. Mercedes killed about that many in a single crash at Le Mans. These things look dramatic on TV but are inconsequential to your personal welfare. They are not Hiroshima or the first day of the Somme.<br /><br />The property damage is of little concern except to the locals. The main problem is the loss of grocery stores. Most other damage is quickly repaired but it's getting harder to get ethnic Jews, Koreans or Chinese to serve these black neighborhoods.<br /><br />Clearly some people have calculated that race riots and civil unrest helps Obama and the Democrats. Bush never recovered from Katrina. That makes no sense but there it is.<br /><br />AlbertosaurusPat Boylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13477950851915567863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59467276676334265552012-05-01T14:07:24.918-07:002012-05-01T14:07:24.918-07:00There was one prominent black hero in the RK riots...There was one prominent black hero in the RK riots: Bobby Green. Instead of running around trying to upgrade his home entertainment system or get a new set of radial tires, he was quietly sitting at home, watching the mayhem on TV. When he saw on a news chopper feed local savages pulling Denny out of a semi stalled at a nearby intersection, Green hustled outside to (in his words) save a brother truck driver.<br /><br />After he reached the scene he climbed into Denny's truck cab and drove him to the hospital. Later, some national news reporter had the gall to ask him why Denny got beaten; Green matter of factly replied:"Because he was white."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14280599985109658312012-05-01T13:25:25.138-07:002012-05-01T13:25:25.138-07:00Part of the problem is that Steve doesn't list...Part of the problem is that Steve doesn't listen to rap music.ATBOTLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8690536763388094802012-05-01T13:22:01.162-07:002012-05-01T13:22:01.162-07:00http://youtu.be/bm6ScvNygUUhttp://youtu.be/bm6ScvNygUUAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87564346156397235592012-05-01T12:54:12.855-07:002012-05-01T12:54:12.855-07:00Though blacks, due to their nature, are less likel...Though blacks, due to their nature, are less likely to feel shame, their lack of shame also owes to there being no pressure on the black community to feel shame. <br />Community/social pressure is important. In the past, whites felt far less shame--or no shame at all--about racial conditions in America because the media almost never mentioned it. It was the massive media campaign and bullying since the 50s that led to the rise of white shame. And right after WWII, most Germans were not into shame-over-the-Holocaust. That came later with endless media and educational campaigns about 'German guilt'. And no one felt shame about 'homophobia' few decades ago. Not even a liberal back then would have felt shame over thinking 'gay marriage' is ridiculous. Now, many Americans would be ashamed to oppose the gay agenda. Why? Media pressure and campaign. <br /><br />When white society once put immense moral pressure on black society, blacks did feel shame in the past. And so, blacks felt a need to be a 'credit to their race' and prove their worth before whites. MLK's bargain was 'whites must change their racist ways and atone for their sins' BUT 'we blacks must demonstrate that we are good respectable Negroes and not vile <br />n-words'. <br />But no such pressure has been put on the black community for a long time. <br /><br />The main story of the LA riots should be black awfulness and disgustingness, but most of media is treating it like it was some tragedy that happened 'out of the blue', like meteor hitting Earth. It'd be like saying Germans didn't start WWII but just got 'caught up' in it. <br />And so, why would there be black shame?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57802341830535827752012-05-01T12:46:50.918-07:002012-05-01T12:46:50.918-07:00"I see nothing to believe blacks feel any sha..."I see nothing to believe blacks feel any shame over the 1992 riots. I don't think shame is really a black thing."<br /><br />Blacks feel shame that they didn't loot enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67035169365798229982012-05-01T12:46:03.168-07:002012-05-01T12:46:03.168-07:00People tend to think the black problem is limited ...People tend to think the black problem is limited to black violence, but the main black problem may even be more dire. It's their lack of scruples and lack of shame(that could lead them to scruples). Even non-violent blacks commit lots of 'non-violent' crime. <br />I used to work at a video store and my boss once hired this black guy. Nice guy, amiable, friendly, and not violent. But he got caught stealing a whole bunch of stuff. When called on it, his attitude was 'so what?' <br />I also used to work at Macy's and one of the black worker was caught with stolen items. What did he say? "I'm black and gay, and there's nothing you can do about it." <br />This kind of attitude is typical. Even before looting happens, many businesses close in black communities because too many 'good' blacks steal and feel no shame about it. <br /><br />To be sure, even non-violent black behavior is connected to black violence. If blacks do something wrong, non-blacks often keep mum out of fear that the black guy will act like Omar Thorton. Even if the black guy doesn't use a gun, an angry black guy can beat up just about any non-black guy. <br /><br />One time in a subway, a bunch of us saw this black guy pickpocketing an old white man, but we said nothing out of fear of the Negro. That's America.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33442870960758577572012-05-01T12:10:30.437-07:002012-05-01T12:10:30.437-07:00Booker Rising.
http://www.bookerrising.net/
&qu...Booker Rising. <br /><br />http://www.bookerrising.net/<br /><br /><i>"If Zimmerman is ruled not guilty and allowed to walk, I foresee Rodney King-type riots in the streets. Thus, is Zimmerman's fate already sealed? Will a jury decide that Zimmerman must be declared guilty of something? While Al Sharpton, the New Black Panthers, and all of the other racist race-hustling usual suspects clamor for justice for Trayvon Martin, I wonder if justice is even possible for George Zimmerman. Tragically and frighteningly, we live in a time in which the law and truth appears to be losing relevance in America."</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43366963383353869642012-05-01T10:03:18.809-07:002012-05-01T10:03:18.809-07:00During the Jena 6 nonsense, I do recall various co...During the Jena 6 nonsense, I do recall various comment sections of reports having a pretty active debate about the need for blacks to stand up for thugs. There was a quite healthy, unabashed segment which was anti-thug. More than once, white people's willingness to condemn bad behavior from other whites was mentioned.<br /><br />While the articles may be written by excuse giving "black people can't do any wrong" hacks, there is a publicly invisible segment which does see this behavior as reprehensible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19327020227972552842012-05-01T09:03:40.004-07:002012-05-01T09:03:40.004-07:00I see nothing to believe blacks feel any shame ove...I see nothing to believe blacks feel any shame over the 1992 riots. I don't think shame is really a black thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83341842065481077522012-05-01T07:34:29.802-07:002012-05-01T07:34:29.802-07:00That Moynihan letter is incredibly astute, and exp...That Moynihan letter is incredibly astute, and explains, for instance, that undercurrent of blackmail you can hear in James Baldwin's nonfiction. Is it in the recent collection of his letters they released, or was it kept out?FredRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-11900445143155519532012-05-01T07:26:29.126-07:002012-05-01T07:26:29.126-07:00"Simon in London said...
Mr Anon:
"&qu..."Simon in London said...<br /><br />Mr Anon:<br /><br />""And the most recent one was Hurricane Katrina...""<br /><br />For people who expected New Orleans lower class blacks to behave like Nashvilleans (when Nashville flooded a few years later), maybe. Proposition Nation, We're All the Same, and Neocon, types, maybe."<br /><br />I don't understand your quibble with my point. Proposition Nation, We're All the Same, Necon types - is that an irrelevant group? There are a lot more of them - a lot more, by far - than there are of us, certainly among those in the crowd with political and media influence.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71802943876457390922012-05-01T03:24:49.783-07:002012-05-01T03:24:49.783-07:00I think blacks have a "diminished capacity&qu...I think blacks have a "diminished capacity" for shame. I don't think culture has a whole lot to do with it.<br /><br />Sociopaths don't really "get" shame, and judging from experience (and at least one study), blacks score highly on metrics of sociopathy.<br /><br />I think blacks feel far more shame and guilt in the projections of Whites than they do in reality.Svigorhttp://svigor.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68055508139232596332012-05-01T01:28:39.457-07:002012-05-01T01:28:39.457-07:00Shame???
There is no shame in "urban youth&q...Shame???<br /><br />There is no shame in "urban youth" culture!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com