tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post2354697048619544657..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: The rise of China and India: Is it good for the Jews?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger67125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24674266188997003822011-02-21T13:20:46.615-08:002011-02-21T13:20:46.615-08:00Hilbert, Poincare, and Lorentz invented special re...Hilbert, Poincare, and Lorentz invented special relativity.<br /><br /><br /><br />Is Einstein was so central curious he never received a Nobel Prize for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42313565315778140292010-07-10T17:47:10.633-07:002010-07-10T17:47:10.633-07:00@Corvinus - Agreed... generally, Jews seem to take...@Corvinus - Agreed... generally, Jews seem to take conversion of their people to Christianity or Islam very hard.<br />--<br /><br />Jews do seem to tolerate buddhist jews and thousands of jews dabble with Hindu gurus and buddhist lamas and dont face heat from their families<br /><br />Hindus and Sikhs react similarly to conversion to islam or christianity, which is why Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindal are disliked by a sizable minority of the Indian diaspora<br /><br />In India, conversion to islam among both lower and upper castes leads to outcasting<br />and among upper castes, conversion to christianity lead to outcastingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85294242269366218022010-07-10T16:58:24.495-07:002010-07-10T16:58:24.495-07:00"Anonymous said...
"Right, Einstein was..."Anonymous said...<br /><br />"Right, Einstein was a gentile."<br /><br />Well, but Henri Poincare certainly was hot on the trail of relativity at the time Einstein published in 1905 and may have beaten Einstein to the punch but didn't get credit."<br /><br />The work of Hendrik Lorentz and George Fitzgerald also predated Einstein's work. They derived the Lorentz-Fitzgerald contraction as a means of explaining the Michaelson-Morley experiment and also salvaging the concept of the Aether. The genius of Einstein's special theory of relativity was that it just did away with the concept of the Aether altogether. <br /><br />What made Einstein great is that it would have taken three or four extrordinarily brilliant physicists to have done all the things that he did. But had he never lived, those things would have eventually been done. No scientist is indispensible to the progress of science.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41108036598018394602010-07-10T13:44:02.746-07:002010-07-10T13:44:02.746-07:00"At a fundamental level, islam and xtianity a...<i>"At a fundamental level, islam and xtianity attempt to replace judaism and the continued existence of unconverted jews is an affront to followers of islam and xtianity and led to persecution of jews"<br /><br />Actually it is the other way round. The fact that Jews could convert to Islam or Christianity threatened the existence of Jews as a separate people or religion. Not such problems with Hinduism, Jainism, Sikhism, Shinto and Confucianism though Buddhism could have been dangerous too.</i><br /><br />Agreed... generally, Jews seem to take conversion of their people to Christianity or Islam very hard. I also wonder what the effect was of absorbing a certain fraction of the Jewish gene pool on European IQ.corvinusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79827354211876483282010-07-10T09:05:03.456-07:002010-07-10T09:05:03.456-07:00Interesting how smart guys talk about China as an ...<i>Interesting how smart guys talk about China as an unconquerable homogeneous and patriotic nation. A century ago China was controlled by the Manchu. Every single queue in the head of a Han chinese you see in the movies is a proof of conquest by an usurper elite. In America, the long array of "racism" "holocaust" "pc" "afirmative action" and the like are the equivalent to the Han chinese queue.</i><br /><br />And then the conquerors get absorbed. Happened throughout chinese history too.<br /><br />And that was actually more than two centuries ago. By 1900, the ruling Manchu elite were hardly distinguishable from the Han.<br /><br />So in some sense, China IS unconquerable. You may rule OVER them, but sooner or later the demographics win out and you just get absorbed.The Wobbly Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301556031735052090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43816653519276850862010-07-09T18:31:14.733-07:002010-07-09T18:31:14.733-07:00"At a fundamental level, islam and xtianity a..."At a fundamental level, islam and xtianity attempt to replace judaism and the continued existence of unconverted jews is an affront to followers of islam and xtianity and led to persecution of jews"<br /><br />Actually it is the other way round. The fact that Jews could convert to Islam or Christianity threatened the existence of Jews as a separate people or religion. Not such problems with Hinduism, Jainism, Sikhism, Shinto and Confucianism though Buddhism could have been dangerous too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20333807033452822122010-07-09T18:20:15.719-07:002010-07-09T18:20:15.719-07:00Interesting how smart guys talk about China as an ...Interesting how smart guys talk about China as an unconquerable homogeneous and patriotic nation. A century ago China was controlled by the Manchu. Every single queue in the head of a Han chinese you see in the movies is a proof of conquest by an usurper elite. In America, the long array of "racism" "holocaust" "pc" "afirmative action" and the like are the equivalent to the Han chinese queue.<br /><br />The process of conquest by usurper elite is as old as time. Qing China is a good proof of that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2635432433239093152010-07-09T17:01:36.678-07:002010-07-09T17:01:36.678-07:00"Right, Einstein was a gentile."
Well, ..."Right, Einstein was a gentile."<br /><br />Well, but Henri Poincare certainly was hot on the trail of relativity at the time Einstein published in 1905 and may have beaten Einstein to the punch but didn't get credit.<br /><br /><br />Henri Poincaré : A decisive contribution to Special Relativity<br /><br />quote:<br /><br />In his book “La science et l’hypothèse” (1902), Poincaré devoted a full chapter to the relativity principle: “There is no absolute uniform motion, no physical experience can therefore detect any inertial motion (no force felt), there is no absolute time, saying that two events have the same duration is conventional, as well as saying they are simultaneous is purely conventional as they occur in different places.<br /><br />http://www.everythingimportant.org/relativity/Poincare.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34366691640363729022010-07-09T17:01:36.679-07:002010-07-09T17:01:36.679-07:00At a fundamental level, islam and xtianity attempt...At a fundamental level, islam and xtianity attempt to replace judaism and the continued existence of unconverted jews is an affront to followers of islam and xtianity and led to persecution of jews<br /><br />Whereas Hindus, Buddhists and Confucians are not threated religiously by the jewsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79227550556072212952010-07-09T16:58:56.840-07:002010-07-09T16:58:56.840-07:00@Anon - The loquacious, high IQ Indian American wi...@Anon - The loquacious, high IQ Indian American will align with the American Jews<br /><br />---<br /><br />USINPAC and Hindu American Foundation have several jewish mentors and advisors and work closely with AIPACAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62954483867854158462010-07-09T16:41:30.267-07:002010-07-09T16:41:30.267-07:00Adsas whatever, you read too many opinion articles...<i>Adsas whatever, you read too many opinion articles. I don’t feel any shame or self-loathing, and I’d be willing to bet that most white people don’t, either.</i><br /><br />White guilt means whites think <i>whites</i> are guilty, not that they are themselves guilty. It's designed to erode and prevent white racial cohesion and loyalty. When a white hears about all the dirty stuff whites get up to (which must be true cuz their teevees told them), they preen because the one thing they know for sure is <i>they</i> never think such thoughts or do such deeds. Then there are the status-mongering whites who use their purity to leverage their status upward. Though I suppose the poor saps who have the occasional rebellious thought do feel guilt on cue.<br /><br />It's also a substitute for original sin. For some, simply accepting Jesus (denouncing raycissum) is enough; for others, only a lifetime of works can atone, not for any act, but for being born in sin.<br /><br />Hmm, I guess my theory of white guilt isn't very tight, that stuff is all over the map.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81252425351292494912010-07-09T16:00:52.495-07:002010-07-09T16:00:52.495-07:00Worf, thanks for the replies.Worf, thanks for the replies.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51175814674815435962010-07-09T15:56:51.048-07:002010-07-09T15:56:51.048-07:00"One reason why China won't become a lead...<i>"One reason why China won't become a leading superpower is it has no Jews."<br /><br />That's absurd. You'd be hard pressed to come up with more than one superpower in all of history where Jews played a prominent role. The British Empire did all right for itself for centuries with no Jewish input.</i><br /><br />Israel should be the super-mega-ultrapower.<br /><br />The dominant forces of the last half-millennium have been European. Jews look enough like Europeans to pass, and went where the money was. Now their radical boosters get to claim they were responsible for all the success.<br /><br />So absurd. Why isn't Israel a film Mecca? Er, let's find something else to talk about!Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-89988644494220452172010-07-09T13:02:53.413-07:002010-07-09T13:02:53.413-07:00It’s not a matter of Americans having gotten too s...It’s not a matter of Americans having gotten too soft as much as Americans being victims of their own success. As Steve says, Pacific Palisades is the end of the line. There seems to be a lot of desire to be from somewhere else and get in to Pacific Palisades (or its equivalent), and not a lot of desire to be from America and move to Guangdong Province, or Gujarat, or Tel Aviv.<br /><br />I’m not in agreement with the acceptance here of fat, dumb Whitey sitting around waiting to be taken over. Convenient fantasy though it may be, America didn’t appear magically, nor does it simply exist independently of the European descendants who built it up and created the combination of freedoms and enterprise we have today. Look at the signatures to the Declaration of Independence. No one is allowed to go there, though, because if white people made the country the magnet that it has become, then maybe they are something more than doddering and irrelevant place keepers, to be replaced at will by the much more industrious and deserving Indians/ Chinese/ Mexicans/ any other group with messianic designs on our country. <br /><br />Adsas whatever, you read too many opinion articles. I don’t feel any shame or self-loathing, and I’d be willing to bet that most white people don’t, either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77305339330050742762010-07-09T10:55:18.966-07:002010-07-09T10:55:18.966-07:00We have the Jews, so we'll be at the forefront...<i>We have the Jews, so we'll be at the forefront of macro-innovations in science, technology, etc.<br /><br />All the major "macro-innovations in science, technology, etc." were advanced by White gentiles, not Jews:<br /><br />http://mangans.blogspot.com/2010/05/how-did-we-ever-get-along-without.html</i><br /><br />Right, Einstein was a gentile.sdfsadfasdfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24535680408710778362010-07-09T09:55:28.093-07:002010-07-09T09:55:28.093-07:00Moreover, nearly all the Indians and Chinese with ...<i>Moreover, nearly all the Indians and Chinese with advanced degrees and money I know distrust their Jewish colleagues</i><br />i have noticed this too - they are pretty upfront about it .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64878840932255279222010-07-09T08:37:00.065-07:002010-07-09T08:37:00.065-07:00I feel I must discount China's industrial powe...<i>I feel I must discount China's industrial power. It was built with a lot of help from greedy Western CEO's trying to offshore everything from the manufacture of silicon computer chips to toothbrushes. But this happened all so quickly. Are the Chinese really in control of all this?</i><br /><br />China WILL become a high tech country. It is inevitable. All the proof you need of this is Taiwan. Taiwanese industry has very quietly risen, to the point where a lot of its technology is just as good as Japan's now. This is especially evident in the field of computer hardware. Here are just some of the companies I can think of that are world leaders:<br /><br />Gigabyte Technology and Asus - Rivals that dominate motherboards<br /><br />G.Skill - Maker of RAM. I would say that they are now the #1 preferred brand among gaming enthusiasts<br /><br />D-Link - Makes networking products like routers, considered one of the leaders in this field along with Linksys<br /><br />Cooler Master and Lian Li - Computer case makers. Cooler Master has recently surpassed Antec as being the most preferred brand among gamers<br /><br />Acer - Now the #2 PC maker in the world, second only to Hewlett Packard<br /><br />On top of that, there are loads of leading North American computer hardware companies that were founded by Taiwanese/Chinese immigrants:<br /><br />Nvidia and ATI - Arch rivals that own the video card industry<br /><br />Kingston Technology - Maker of RAM, considered one of the leaders along with others like G.Skill and Corsair. Also starting to make solid state drives<br /><br />Antec - Makes computer cases and the best power supplies along with Corsair<br /><br />Linksys - Leader in networking hardware along with D-Link<br /><br />EVGA - Considered to make the most premium motherboards, but at a much higher cost than Gigabyte and ASUS products<br /><br />Heck, practically the only part of your computer that DOESN'T involve the Chinese is the CPU. Intel and AMD have that locked down.<br /><br />Also, RIP Wang Computers. An Wang (the inventor of magnetic core memory) built up this company, which was at one point on the same level as IBM. But he handed the reigns over to his son, who promptly ran the company into the ground. Regression to the mean + nepotism can be a very sad thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86672014443706007752010-07-09T08:28:35.002-07:002010-07-09T08:28:35.002-07:00@worf
Most of the IT worker are mid-level drones ...@worf<br /><br />Most of the IT worker are mid-level drones and in the niche they fill, English fluency is more important than coding skills<br />Anything more than competent coding skills is not neededAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3380522137459248532010-07-09T08:15:36.815-07:002010-07-09T08:15:36.815-07:00One reason why China won't become a leading su...<i>One reason why China won't become a leading superpower is it has no Jews.</i> <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />That's absurd. You'd be hard pressed to come up with more than one superpower in all of history where Jews played a prominent role. The British Empire did all right for itself for centuries with no Jewish input.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61415242543546258492010-07-09T06:58:19.149-07:002010-07-09T06:58:19.149-07:00"For all the hype that Indians get for IT and..."For all the hype that Indians get for IT and computer programming, they're just not very good. Like the article notes, the best programmers seem to be American/Euro whites, Russians, and Chinese. These groups routinely dominate competitions and Indians are conspicuously absent. I've long suspected that something political has been behind the massive influx of Indian IT workers over the past 2 decades."<br /><br />For all the mad props given to the Chinese for kicking ass when it comes to contests, this somehow doesn't translate into much of an advantage when it comes to research. <br /><br />For Computer Science, if you look at the most rarefied levels, the Chinese seem vastly underrepresented vis-a-vis Indians: <br /><br />1. ACM doctoral disseration award winners/finalists (http://awards.acm.org/doctoral_dissertation/) <br /><br />2. Godel prize winners (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godel_Prize)<br /><br />3. Turing award winners (Whites all the way, other than one Chinese and one Indian)<br /><br />4. FOCS/STOC papers (http://theory.stanford.edu/focs2010/accepted.html) <br /><br />5. Nevanlinna Prize winners (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevanlinna_Prize) <br /><br />Of course, coding is a different ball game from CS research, but looking at the Top Coder data point to "prove" lack of Indian CS/IT talent ignores many other data points that indicate the contrary. <br /><br />P.S. Interestingly enough, while East Asians dominate the US Math Olympiad teams, they do relatively poorly when it comes to undergraduate Math research, too. Case in point: The Frank and Brennie Morgan Prize for Outstanding Research in Mathematics by an Undergraduate Student<br /> <br />http://www.ams.org/profession/prizes-awards/ams-prizes/morgan-prizeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74585879785932461882010-07-09T06:12:45.082-07:002010-07-09T06:12:45.082-07:00"The whole world is crazy and envious of Amer..."The whole world is crazy and envious of America for having so many talentd blacks".<br /><br /> Yeah, right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67224455140969747742010-07-09T02:46:48.704-07:002010-07-09T02:46:48.704-07:00We have the Jews, so we'll be at the forefront...<i>We have the Jews, so we'll be at the forefront of macro-innovations in science, technology, etc.</i><br /><br />All the major "macro-innovations in science, technology, etc." were advanced by White gentiles, not Jews:<br /><br />http://mangans.blogspot.com/2010/05/how-did-we-ever-get-along-without.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5087538857043193622010-07-09T00:57:54.737-07:002010-07-09T00:57:54.737-07:00"I feel I must discount China's industria..."I feel I must discount China's industrial power. It was built with a lot of help from greedy Western CEO's trying to offshore everything from the manufacture of silicon computer chips to toothbrushes. But this happened all so quickly. Are the Chinese really in control of all this?"<br /><br />I agree with you halfway, but could Western companies have exported their factories to just any poor country and attained the same results? <br />China was the favorite target not only because of low wages but the work ethic of its workers. <br />Yes, there are tons of corruption in China, but it's no worse than other parts of the developing world. For every rotten official and manager, there are many capable ones who earn the respect and even the trust of foreign companies. <br />Also, Chinese are capable of learning, adapting, and changing. No one in the 1980s predicted China would come so far so fast. This doesn't mean the next 20 or 30 yrs will be just as astounding for China, but at least the possibility is there IF the Chinese decide to do the right things. <br />Right now, I would bet 60/40 against Chinese doing what must be done. Unlike Singapore or Taiwan, China is too big, too populous, too crazy to be managed by a bunch of technocrats. But, I don't see a collapse either. And even if there were great crises, Chinese have a lot of historical practice and stoicism in surviving them. If the Chinese survived the 19th and 20th century through all the upheavals, famines, civil wars, world wars, communism, etc, they can survive anything. <br /><br />I fear Americans have grown too soft. <br /><br />If China is politically paralyzed by too much greed and self-interest from top to bottom, American whites are paralyzed by selflessness, and too many blacks and browns are paralyzed by dependency. <br />Whites, who should have and direct the moral and political authority in the US, feel only shame and self-loathing.dsfadfasfasdfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51460785065586102812010-07-09T00:04:24.174-07:002010-07-09T00:04:24.174-07:00But there was nevertheless one who dissented - Osw...<i>But there was nevertheless one who dissented - Oswald Spangler. </i><br /><br />Why is Spengler's name spelled Spangler? This is a serious question. Are there any German-speakers out there who could explain?CJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48075731549525929992010-07-08T23:31:48.233-07:002010-07-08T23:31:48.233-07:00"For all the hype that Indians get for IT and..."For all the hype that Indians get for IT and computer programming, they're just not very good. Like the article notes, the best programmers seem to be American/Euro whites, Russians, and Chinese. These groups routinely dominate competitions and Indians are conspicuously absent. I've long suspected that something political has been behind the massive influx of Indian IT workers over the past 2 decades."<br /><br />The article has the answer... the pool in China is much larger. Despite all the hot air blown, the Indian middle class is puny given its population. <br /><br />There need not be a political motivation, simple short term business interest (depress or maintaining wages) is sufficient.worfnoreply@blogger.com