tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post2441825761754787487..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: I think The Who had a song about thisUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger75125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81892587488265786462009-11-02T12:12:33.829-08:002009-11-02T12:12:33.829-08:00I'm surprised by how conservative you all seem...I'm surprised by how conservative you all seem to be. Why would the child be harmed by this? I really don't see how NOT forcing something upon a child could be bad. It's not like they're preventing the child to be or do something, they just don't want other people to treat the child in typical male or female way.<br /><br />As for you who draw parallels between this case and David Reimer... Please. Have you even read the article?<br />David Reimer was lied to and practically forced to act like a typical girl when he was in fact a boy.<br />Of course it ended badly.<br /><br />This "Pop" however, is not being forced to do anything. Nor prohibited to do things.<br />The parents simply choose to have an open mind and treat the child as a child, instead of treating it like a boy or a girl.Lampannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61282018401400298872009-07-05T13:15:57.486-07:002009-07-05T13:15:57.486-07:00LBK said...
"Then came the era of easy trave...LBK said... <br />"Then came the era of easy travel, and people from more aggressive southern races started moving to the northern countries. These more aggressive women demanded rights and power and of course the soft nordic men capitulated and the result is the mess we have now."<br /><br />Wrong again, historically and even pre-historically it is the Northern men from Northern Europe and North East Asia who moved south and took the southern women thus spreading genes of high IQ. There have been more cases of northerners like the Mongols, Germanics and Vikings defeating southerners and taking their babes than the other way round. It is because of this the Chinese built the great Wall to the North and not the South and Rome fell to the Germanics but not to the Carthaginians.<br /> It is because places like Africa (below Ethiopia) and Papua New Guinea were too isolated for those Northerner males invading and impregnating the local women, that the IQ there is so low. Had they Northerner males invaded and mated there in the remote past, Southern Africa and Papua New Guinea would have had IQs in the Arab/ Malay (medium IQ) range.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79277910303059374482009-07-05T13:05:46.752-07:002009-07-05T13:05:46.752-07:00LBK said...
"Which leads to yet another theo...LBK said... <br />"Which leads to yet another theory. Back when the races were geographically isolated, the nordic men may have been passive but the nordic women were even more so, so the soft patriarchy prevailed.<br /><br />Then came the era of easy travel, and people from more aggressive southern races started moving to the northern countries. These more aggressive women demanded rights and power and of course the soft nordic men capitulated and the result is the mess we have now."<br /><br />Nordic men are not feminine compared to other men. Trust me, Nordic men are tougher than many immigrant males from places like India and Sri Lanka, who look like pregnant women in front of the local men. If Nordic men lacked testostrone explain how they have dominated the Strongmen competitions. You need a lot of testostrone to build those muscles.<br /><br />I think the reason the Vikings turned to 'this' is because of the Nordic or general Northern European tendency to take ideologies too seriously. And the ideology I am about to talk about is not 60's hippy revolution but Christianity which started as a similar hippy revolution of it's time. The fact is below the civilized church Christianity of family values, hierarchy etc... (which are European pagan values superimposed on the base of Christianity) lies the true Christianity of the essenes of Israel which includes hatred for sex, hatred for life, a desire to turn everybody away from life and to turn people into sexless, sinless angels. The Ethiopians and the Italians did not take that aspect too seriously, the Northern Europeans did. Protestantism was an attempt to go back towards this true base Christianity (the only positive thing Protestantism did was allow marriage of the priestly class). No wonder the Nordic nations are Evangelical Lutherans. In several Quaker Protestant groups in America, men and women were encouraged to live together without sex and living as if there was no gender. That is exactly how the essenes of Israel lived. It is the Protestant nations which saw the rise of feminism, those nations where the males were taught that sex was an necessary sin.<br />So today’s Scandinavians are the result of about eight centuries of Christian nonsense taken too seriously by the descendants of those brave Vikings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37821708477768757442009-07-03T07:36:40.583-07:002009-07-03T07:36:40.583-07:00I always sit to pee anyway. My doctor told me long...<i>I always sit to pee anyway. My doctor told me long ago not to lift anything heavy.</i> <br /><br />Yeah but the water in that bowl is COLD.Svigorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397917915404344439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56966140554858099882009-07-02T19:52:00.665-07:002009-07-02T19:52:00.665-07:00... then how come the soft patriarchies of the Wes...<i> ... then how come the soft patriarchies of the West are so much more successful than the hard, abusive patriarchies of other civilizations ....?</i><br /><br />Because, Ma'am:<br /><br />(a) "Westerners" are naturally better and smarter than others;<br /><br />(b) Soft patriarchies have only been around in the West for a couple of generations, and the softies may not last for another generation.David Davenportnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74196737648329017312009-07-02T10:21:05.591-07:002009-07-02T10:21:05.591-07:00by the way guys. The WHO song is not autobiographi...by the way guys. The WHO song is not autobiographical. Pete Townshend got on well with his parents and his mom was among his greatest supporters. In fact, I distinctly remember him metaphorically patting them on the backs in a Life interview where he complimented them on their open mindedness. He'd had his first "screw" in their house (while they were away), and he knew they were as comfortable with the fact as he appeared to be.<br /><br />Another thing. Weird sects that suppress sexual urges, sometimes in drastic ways and unnatural ways, were a big deal in Russia just before the Revolution. But they had a history there. Lunatics like the Swedes in question have always been around. It's just that they were considered non-mainstream and loony.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42087032697233412562009-07-02T04:14:50.099-07:002009-07-02T04:14:50.099-07:00"Anonymous said...
@dc watcher: I like the a..."Anonymous said... <br />@dc watcher: I like the attitude of those Tamils. Do they accept immigrants?"<br /><br />I don't know. You could always write to the Indian embassy. A man could certainly feel like a prince among them. Certain tribes are/were also known for female infanticide by slow poisoning (by mom) over a 3 day period with a lethal milky substance from local leaves.. It was a slow death but probably better then the raw wheat seeds used in the north which kill by cutting the baby's esophagus.<br />Charming customs. Of course there are loads of Indian ladies as liberated as any over here. Still, the weirdest "feminism" always comes from those who need it the least.<br />Be careful though. Kerala in southern India is mildly matriarchal traditionally, and you don't want to end up among them, as they are the most progressive people in India.dc watchernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83230519601040164632009-07-01T23:58:14.901-07:002009-07-01T23:58:14.901-07:00To answer my own question, yes, it is time to root...To answer my own question, yes, it is time to root for the jihadis.<br /><br />The first time I ever heard about men being forced to sit down to urinate was during the Hanafi Moslem hostage taking in Washington DC.Hanafi Moslemshttp://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,946751,00.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62281215598817254242009-07-01T23:27:24.606-07:002009-07-01T23:27:24.606-07:00Non-Indo-European Finnish has no gender. But they ...<i>Non-Indo-European Finnish has no gender. But they still have separate pronouns for animate and inanimate beings: 'hän' is 'he' or 'she', 'se' is 'it'. But when I was in that country in the '80s, it was common for kids to refer to one another as 'se'. Was that a fad?</i><br /><br />No, it's more the other way. In spoken Finnish just about everyone uses only "se". "Hän" is usually only used in formal language, mainly in written word. It appears to have been this way for as long as we have records of spoken word, way before there were hippies.<br /><br />"Hän" and the whole distinction might be an Indo-European borrowing. It feels pretty contrived.jaakkelinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57569246271741640782009-07-01T21:48:03.703-07:002009-07-01T21:48:03.703-07:00"Another theory is that with races intermingl..."Another theory is that with races intermingling the gender within each race that is less socially valued becomes embittered at the more desirable one."<br /><br />Which leads to yet another theory. Back when the races were geographically isolated, the nordic men may have been passive but the nordic women were even more so, so the soft patriarchy prevailed.<br /><br />Then came the era of easy travel, and people from more aggressive southern races started moving to the northern countries. These more aggressive women demanded rights and power and of course the soft nordic men capitulated and the result is the mess we have now.LBKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51013102826173928342009-07-01T21:09:58.181-07:002009-07-01T21:09:58.181-07:00Uh, is that supposed to be "Daniel Lesbian&qu...Uh, is that supposed to be "Daniel Lesbian" or "Danielle Lesbian" ?!?Lucius Vorenusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29807265752002714352009-07-01T17:05:38.049-07:002009-07-01T17:05:38.049-07:00yeah. The soft patriarchies are in some ways the m...yeah. The soft patriarchies are in some ways the most truly egalitarian systems to date. Never thought I'd say that. Women DO have an innate reason to feel important, even superior. Not personally, necessariy, but important as a species. "Species" is probably the wrong word for half the gender entity, but that's the thought. Men--well, it depends. They (or at least a certain element among men) have created and largely maintain the whole physical and organizational structure in which we exist. <br />Feminists have had some good points along the years. We are living in the end times--not in a religious sense, but in a sociological sense. All that has passed both good and evil, must be addressed and so it has been. However, the job of ensuring legal equality is done. If either gender feels slighted they can take it to the courts. <br />I actually believe these Euro fems are desperate for worthy causes and that's dangerous because in rich countries you can just make them up. They do actually have a true worthy cause, but it involves protecting their survival as the founding race of the modern world, not worrying about pink or blue booties for babies many of them will never have anyway.dc watchernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7953754084079832362009-07-01T16:57:35.248-07:002009-07-01T16:57:35.248-07:00"I wonder why the same phenomenon does not se..."I wonder why the same phenomenon does not seem to affect East Asian men, who supposedly also have low testosterone. They seem to do a much better job of keeping their women in check than their Northern European counterparts do."<br /><br />Their women have less testosterone too. It takes pussy men and loud mouth feminist to make it work. A society made up of Asian men and white females would probably make Sweden look like Iraq! <br /><br />Another theory is that with races intermingling the gender within each race that is less socially valued becomes embittered at the more desirable one. So among blacks you get the sistahs complaining about rich and high status blacks marrying whites women, Asian men bitter about white guys taking Asian women and white men frustrated by white females who have more options than anybody.<br /><br />These natural imbalances are a good case for racial separation. In the end, Islam is more adaptive than anything else. I suspect on the sexual free market Arab/Persian females would be more desired than their male counterparts so Middle Eastern men should do whatever it takes to resist globalization and secularism.Richard Hostehttp://hbdbooks.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15851618963433616662009-07-01T16:37:24.794-07:002009-07-01T16:37:24.794-07:00"This correlates with low levels of machismo ..."This correlates with low levels of machismo in the northwestern Europeans (perhaps caused by lower levels of testosterone?)."<br /><br />Well, you have to think of what's left of us, after centuries of technology being used in utterly devastating war against each other. You can't compare the German today, for instance, to the German of 1935. You can't compare the Southern man today to the one of 1860.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19277860188170083412009-07-01T16:10:57.211-07:002009-07-01T16:10:57.211-07:00DC Watcher is right. And this is the answer to th...DC Watcher is right. And this is the answer to the giant hole left in patriarchy theory - if patriarchy is necessary to civilization (as it obviously it is) - then how come the soft patriarchies of the West are so much more successful than the hard, abusive patriarchies of other civilizations? Or conversely, why is technological progress and material wealth correlated so closely with the condition of women?<br /><br />The answer is that the soft patriarchies bother to get consent from women. The hard patriarchies just beat them up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38803783432588150612009-07-01T14:44:36.380-07:002009-07-01T14:44:36.380-07:00Women always do this sort of thing. And it's r...Women always do this sort of thing. And it's rampant in Southern European nations as well. Spain, has a female Defense Minister who just gave birth. Italy is prone to all sorts of feminist nonsense as is France. Greece as well. Sweden may take it a bit farther, but not much.<br /><br />Yes, women are hypergamous and want dominating, higher status men. Equality only makes women's natural hatred for beta men far worse. Too much social power for women produces this nonsense (i.e. women have the demographic majority and block vote).<br /><br />The reverse, i.e. Islam, is terrible in different ways (mostly social failures due to strife internally caused by polygamy).<br /><br />The Sandra Tsing Loh article on marriage notes that "enlightened Swedish Women" are seeking out dominating Muslim men for marriage because they wish to submit, just as Roissy predicts. <br /><br />[The Vikings were feared because unlike other Europeans, they used the sea as a highway, their boats were far superior to any technology Dark Ages Europeans had. Thus the Vikings could be anywhere there was a foot or two of water, at any time, raiding.]Whiskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53818690385098243792009-07-01T13:33:09.031-07:002009-07-01T13:33:09.031-07:00Maybe the child was born with a defect that made i...<i>Maybe the child was born with a defect that made it impossible to say what the gender is, and the parents are waiting until the child is old enough to decide. </i><br /><br />Do a Google search on pop singer Lady GaGa, who is currently getting a big marketing push.David Davenportnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46496999294115529212009-07-01T12:40:50.876-07:002009-07-01T12:40:50.876-07:00i always thought "I'm a Boy" was abo...i always thought "I'm a Boy" was about mismatched gender roles in general, with no bio or social determinist message apparent. Like Bowie's "Rebel, Rebel" - ambiguous, i.e, could just as easily be a tomboy's plaint. Maybe I'm wrong...Daniellesbianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06372847570034383313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87714269724749106042009-07-01T08:44:24.581-07:002009-07-01T08:44:24.581-07:00LBK said:
"Not sure why, but there seems to b...LBK said:<br />"Not sure why, but there seems to be sort of a racial angle to these radical feminist excesses. That is, they seem to only occur among whites, and mainly among the whitest of the white - the peoples of northwestern Europe. Southern and eastern Europeans are less feminist, and non-whites even less. <br /><br />This correlates with low levels of machismo in the northwestern Europeans (perhaps caused by lower levels of testosterone?). Southern and eastern Europeans are more macho, and non-whites even more so.<br /><br />So there seems to be a cline, with northwestern Europe at the epicenter of high-feminism / low-maculinity. <br /><br />Does anyone else have the same impression, and are there any theories to account for it? Does low melanin cause low testosterone?"<br /><br />I wonder why the same phenomenon does not seem to affect East Asian men, who supposedly also have low testosterone. They seem to do a much better job of keeping their women in check than their Northern European counterparts do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63064899363849738902009-07-01T08:15:33.289-07:002009-07-01T08:15:33.289-07:00Roostero: I don't think the lyrics are autobi...Roostero: I don't think the lyrics are autobiographical. According to Wikipedia they originated from one of Townshend's many discarded rock opera ideas.James Kabalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02335302113772004687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86744259702031112462009-07-01T07:51:06.978-07:002009-07-01T07:51:06.978-07:00Thanks. I wasn't very clear. In English, we ...Thanks. I wasn't very clear. In English, we can't usually refer to a human being as 'it,' hence that pronoun isn't sex-neutral but neuter in most cases. (It seems that it can be used for infants sometimes, precisely because the sex isn't immediately obvious, I suppose.) If this phenomenon were happening among anglophones, the kid couldn't be called 'it.' (Where's Pop? — it's in the bathroom.) From what you say, tho, in Swedish it's possible to do so. But if it's not, I recommend the family use Newspeak instead. Much more compatible with their Weltanschauung.<br /><br />Anyhow, Reg Caesar, I appreciate your linguistic input. I think discussions on this site would often benefit from it. We should always keep Orwell in mind when thinking about politics and language.Baloohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08245765878554696634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83063127758309507452009-07-01T07:51:04.918-07:002009-07-01T07:51:04.918-07:00This reminds me of black single mothers that give ...This reminds me of black single mothers that give their children outlandish names to try and compensate for the childs precieved lack of opportunities. They end up with either some pseudo name like Rowunda or Kameeka or a variant of an English or French name such as Sawaun or Shaunde. The kid ends up branded with a stupid name for the rest of his life. They ought to just stamp loser on his forehead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1345456048776371232009-07-01T06:38:37.616-07:002009-07-01T06:38:37.616-07:00This is clearly abusive.This is clearly abusive.simonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70414267059080613222009-07-01T05:42:11.098-07:002009-07-01T05:42:11.098-07:00What are you complaining about? For decades now I&...What are you complaining about? For decades now I've been hearing about women who think breastfeeding lets men out of the loop and therefore they don't do it. Yes--this has happened. Others have dealt with this dilemma by fixing articial milk teats on dad's chest. A chubby black guy actually invented one for himself. He looked like a yuppie type.<br />Producing children -- boys I guess -- without women has been a longstanding male fantasy, showing up often in myth. And any number of movies and books have addressed the issue of pregnant men.<br />The moral of this story: the feminists are right. Men always have been intimidated by the birth process and the "power" it confers. <br />Even before all the goofier feminist (too much time, leisure, money and "power" on their hands) ideas, men still called women names (Roosteri) and called men names if they seemed at all dominated by them. Where does it stop Roosterio? Be careful with all that. That's one reason we got to this depressing place in the first place. <br />Since we're on the subject, please refer to "couvade" cultures. These are cultures where the man pretends (?) to have labor pains while his wife is giving birth. He goes to bed, exhibits great pain, and everyone around him gives him all the attention while his wife is ignored to the extent possible. One of the groups which practiced this is a Tamil group in southern India. I was once browsing in an old ethnology study of India written by a Brit who actually lived there and interviewed people, quoting them. When a Tamil man was asked why the men in his group got so much attention during the birth of the couple's child he said, "men are worth so much more than women, of course they should get all the attention." <br />I wish I had photocopied that page because it has to be seen to be believe.dc watchernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32879360821960685342009-07-01T05:24:12.362-07:002009-07-01T05:24:12.362-07:00"I think The Who had a song about this."..."I think The Who had a song about this."<br /><br />And the Who song reminds me of Jack Lemmon's frustrated refrain in<br />"Some Like It Hot."dc watchernoreply@blogger.com