tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post2464900313755143918..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Sen. Boxer: "You call it 'Climategate'; I call it 'E-mail-theft-gate'"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger74125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59688728151131982142009-12-09T09:35:21.181-08:002009-12-09T09:35:21.181-08:00On the other hand Russia, whose Academy of science...On the other hand Russia, whose Academy of science says warming is hogwash, owns millions of pieces of paper worth 10s of billions saying they have "carbon credits". This was the deal to get them to sign for Kyoto & if Copenhagen doesn't ratify them they will just be pieces of paper.<br /><br />Rather a shame because whoever did it deserves a Nobel - perhaps Al's.neil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38085662785681671432009-12-07T11:03:03.857-08:002009-12-07T11:03:03.857-08:00Whiskey, a bit of advice.
Someone said you had a ...Whiskey, a bit of advice.<br /><br />Someone said you had a point somewhere in the crazy. Most people will never know. Why? Because you lie all the time. Or as you would say. bcz you Lie all The time. One might think that you are merely wrong frequently. That isn't true, someone who is merely wrong will admit it.<br /><br />Tell the truth. Save your lies for when they really matter. Think of it as credibility.<br /><br />Oh yes, actual Scotch Irish people spell Buchanan correctly, and do not worship Putin.robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29050036986304806172009-12-07T10:55:08.901-08:002009-12-07T10:55:08.901-08:00Chernobyl, accident or strategy? It turned the wes...Chernobyl, accident or strategy? It turned the west against nuclear power, so we mostly burn coal for baseload. Russia gets nuclear power, natural gas markets, and a warmer climate. All for the price of a few Ukranians.robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54639224895802349382009-12-07T09:21:57.944-08:002009-12-07T09:21:57.944-08:00Since they were conspiring to scam us, and breakin...Since they were conspiring to scam us, and breaking the law on their own.<br /><br />It would be more akin to whistle blowing rather then theft.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48208239930157559612009-12-06T20:55:05.749-08:002009-12-06T20:55:05.749-08:00--So shiites are good Muslims we can trust, is tha...--So shiites are good Muslims we can trust, is that it?--<br /><br /><br />The comment wasn't about the US. But you had the 2 confused as well as lacking a clue about history. Hit the books....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62548759767987109132009-12-06T19:12:21.624-08:002009-12-06T19:12:21.624-08:00The Eyeranians are shiites, the muslims who fight ...<i> The Eyeranians are shiites, the muslims who fight Russia are Sunnis.</i><br /><br />So shiites are good Muslims we can trust, is that it?<br /><br />Here's more on liquefied natural gas:<br /><br />Chevron takes giant stride with $90b LNG deal<br /><br />CLANCY YEATES<br /><br />December 7, 2009<br /> <br />Boom... the region's demand for gas is likely to turn LNG into one of Australia's largest exports.<br /><br /> Photo: Wire ( photo of liquefied nat. gas tanker )<br /><br /><br />CHEVRON has taken another stride forward in the race to develop Western Australia's vast gas resources, signing a record-breaking $90 billion supply deal with a Japanese customer.<br /><br />At the weekend the US oil group signed the heads of agreement with Tokyo Electric Power Company, which will buy 4.1 million tonnes of gas a year over two decades from the planned Wheatstone project.<br /><br />The state's Premier, Colin Barnett, said the deal was worth $90 billion, trumping the $50 billion gas sale to China from the Gorgon project as Australia's biggest sales contract.<br /><br />The Japanese power company, seen as a premium customer, will also take a 15 per cent equity stake in the gas field and an 11.25 per cent stake in the processing facilities.<br /><br />Chevron will not make a final investment decision on Wheatstone until 2011, but the deal demonstrates the strength of Asian gas demand and gives Chevron a leg-up over its rivals in the region.<br /><br />It also adds to the fierce rivalry between Woodside and Chevron, which have repeatedly clashed in recent months in the scramble to develop massive liquefied natural gas projects.<br /><br />...<br /><br />http://www.theage.com.au/business/chevron-takes-giant-stride-with-90b-lng-deal-20091206-kcur.htmlDavid Davenportnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59599001534529209732009-12-06T02:00:42.844-08:002009-12-06T02:00:42.844-08:00Emails that rocked climate change campaign leaked ...<a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1233562/Emails-rocked-climate-change-campaign-leaked-Siberian-closed-city-university-built-KGB.html" rel="nofollow">Emails that rocked climate change campaign leaked from Siberian 'closed city' university built by KGB</a><br /><br />"Suspicions were growing last night that Russian security services were behind the leaking of the notorious British ‘Climategate’ emails which threaten to undermine tomorrow’s Copenhagen global warming summit....<br /><br />"'There has been speculation the hackers were Russian. It appears to have been a sophisticated and well-run operation, that had a political motive given the timing in relation to Copenhagen.’<br /><br />"And gazeta.ru news website, having received information about the Tomsk server connection, said: ‘Presumably it was Russian hackers who broke into the servers of the university.’<br /><br />"The university said that there was strict security on its server, heightening the theory that an extremely sophisticated hacking operation was carried out to obtain it. <br /><br />"East Anglia University has gone out of its way to promote itself to students from the former Soviet Union. Its website says that 33 Russian students currently study there."Cordelianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39205745719520799102009-12-05T17:27:33.175-08:002009-12-05T17:27:33.175-08:00... but that incidentally left us dependent on the...<i> ... but that incidentally left us dependent on the Russians as North Sea gas output winds down.</i><br /><br />No, you're not dependent on Roosky nat. gas. Canada and the USA have lots of the stuff. Check out the price trends. Nat. gas prices are trending down.<br /><br />It's not practical to build a natural gas pipeline under the Atlantic. However, natural gas is exportable in liquified form in insulated tanker ships. <br /><br />///////////////////////<br /><br /><i>Putin now looks weak, and will have to pile up bodies to regain control.</i><br /><br />Is that a bug, or a feature? <br /><br /><i> I suppose his alliance with the Iranians will pay off, the Iranians are well informed about matters in Central Asia.</i><br /><br />Who are you, the poor man's Stratfor.com? <br /><br />If the Eyeranians ( probably cognate with "Aryans" ) are friends with Russia and the Persians know a lot about Muslim schemes, why didn't they warn Moskva?David Davenportnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18719593340995196202009-12-05T16:10:58.925-08:002009-12-05T16:10:58.925-08:00Whiskey sez:
I think they underestimate what happe...Whiskey sez:<br /><i>I think they underestimate what happens when you make people very suddenly poor, and it is done to nearly everyone. Get ready for Gas at $10 a gallon and $15 for a loaf of bread.</i><br><br />In Europe the Global Warming scare has been much farther integrated into the legal and financial woodwork than in the US. Yet gas goes for EUR 2.1 per liter and a loaf of (good German) bread for EUR 2.5. Sorry, u guys still use those shitty Dollars.headachenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76400426891611971052009-12-05T12:07:43.575-08:002009-12-05T12:07:43.575-08:00"The irony is that there's a hundred more..."The irony is that there's a hundred more real scientific evidence for global warming "<br /><br />It depends what you mean by "global warming." There is essentially no evidence that increases in CO2 are likely to cause the sort of significant problems which the likes of Al Gore are claiming.sabrilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65759872281573838122009-12-05T05:33:46.267-08:002009-12-05T05:33:46.267-08:00If I were Putin, I would want to discredit Global ...<i>If I were Putin, I would want to discredit Global Warming theorists in order to make Global Warming more likely. It's too damn cold in Russia right now.<br /><br />What a hero Putin would become to Russians of the future! Grateful Russians would annually celebrate the anniversary of his ascent to power on December 31, 1999 by, say, holding a huge beach volleyball tournament in Murmansk.</i><br /><br />Comrade Sailer, you will come with us, da?<br />Only for a few simple questions of course, comrade.Inspector Ivan from KGBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1415954715342998702009-12-04T22:27:58.606-08:002009-12-04T22:27:58.606-08:00Get ready for Gas at $10 a gallon and $15 for a lo...<b>Get ready for Gas at $10 a gallon and $15 for a loaf of bread.</b><br /><br />What like I have a problem with that? According to Thomas Jefferson, a little revolution every now and then is a good thing. The vision of our fat, corrupt congressmen running through the streets wearing tar and feathers brings a smile to my face.Jimmy Crackedcornnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-35471740688566862432009-12-04T21:04:25.377-08:002009-12-04T21:04:25.377-08:00-So I'm mainly reading this to actually figure...-So I'm mainly reading this to actually figure out what "Climategate" shows about anything-<br /><br />Try the snow in Texas, stupid. PS, give up your car and prevent Gore from using a jet. That'll help keep the temperature down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18173023330337190272009-12-04T20:49:29.045-08:002009-12-04T20:49:29.045-08:00I don't know if Amanda Knox is guilty but I...I don't know if Amanda Knox is guilty but I'm glad to see her entitled white ass in prison.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37890804550708113232009-12-04T20:46:07.067-08:002009-12-04T20:46:07.067-08:00The emails were prepared as part of a package for ...The emails were prepared as part of a package for the UK equivalent of a freedom of information request. Am under the impression that package was obtained by the hackers before it could be released officially.Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08151775953873289807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52810588168530041292009-12-04T20:25:51.028-08:002009-12-04T20:25:51.028-08:00Re Genericgate.
If Watergate happened now they wo...Re Genericgate.<br /><br />If Watergate happened now they would call it WatergategateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45064964481777537972009-12-04T20:21:45.740-08:002009-12-04T20:21:45.740-08:00So I'm mainly reading this to actually figure ...<i>So I'm mainly reading this to actually figure out what "Climategate" shows about anything -- the extensive coverage seems to show no smoking gun of data being faked or anything similar. Considering that there are over a decade of emails here --tens of thousands -- it seems that if anyone is faking data then there would be evidence of it here. Can someone show even a single email that shows such evidence?</i><br /><br />Almost funny pal!<br /><br />Many of the emails deal with 'tricks' to show temp rises or get rid of earlier warm periods. They also discuss hiding data or even destroying it to prevent it falling into enemy hands.<br /><br />So, sure, these are guys who believe the science is settled.<br /><br />If there really were a hundred other proofs of AGW I suspect most deniers would be more sympathetic. Kick away the now discredited warming data/charts and there isnt a lot left, just an assertion.<br /><br />In one email Jones admits that temperature has been falling since 1998, but his unit's charts hide that. Why would that be then?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87305296982681247442009-12-04T18:00:41.885-08:002009-12-04T18:00:41.885-08:00Somewhat OT, but an "inconvenient truth"...Somewhat OT, but an "inconvenient truth" is the train bombing by Chechens (again) of a luxury high speed train in Russia. Putin now looks weak, and will have to pile up bodies to regain control. [He faces threats from fellow thugs who have to fear him, not challenge him.] It is thought that AQ assisted, the attack was unusual in that none were apprehended and the method was quite sophisticated. Elements of Pakistan's ISI are also accused, if so a very dangerous escalation. Putin is not a man to be trifled with. Showing that even a guy like Putin must regularly make demonstrations of people to survive, politically. I suppose his alliance with the Iranians will pay off, the Iranians are well informed about matters in Central Asia.<br />----------------<br />Obama is going to Copenhage on the 18th, to meet with other world leaders (he was originally scheduled to be there on the 9th before they arrived). He says he will commit the US to spend more than $10 billion per year to "poor" nations for "green technology" and also massive greenhouse gas reductions. [Its rumored he will bypass the Senate and simply issue EPA rulings on this.] <br /><br />This will make Al Gore richer than Carlos Slim, but collapse the US economy. Presumably Obama and cronies will get their cut. I think they underestimate what happens when you make people very suddenly poor, and it is done to nearly everyone. Get ready for Gas at $10 a gallon and $15 for a loaf of bread.Whiskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-913108614635397152009-12-04T17:28:39.024-08:002009-12-04T17:28:39.024-08:00The irony is that there's a hundred more real ...The irony is that there's a hundred more real scientific evidence for global warming than there is for IQ as some kind of overpowering genetic determinant of human success. Of course, that's not saying much. Anyway, <a href="http://www.grist.org/article/series/skeptics/" rel="nofollow"> here is a site </a> that patiently goes through all the reasons that denialist arguments are unfounded, so I don't have to do it.<br /><br />So I'm mainly reading this to actually figure out what "Climategate" shows about anything -- the extensive coverage seems to show no smoking gun of data being faked or anything similar. Considering that there are over a decade of emails here --tens of thousands -- it seems that if anyone is faking data then there would be evidence of it here. Can someone show even a single email that shows such evidence?MQnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66865770211627537182009-12-04T17:15:03.465-08:002009-12-04T17:15:03.465-08:00"albertosaurus said...
He "invented&quo..."albertosaurus said...<br /><br />He "invented" a new variant of PCA that rather than dividing a series of measurements by the grand total, divided the first half by one value and the second half by another."<br /><br />Thanks for the explanation. However I don't see why one would want to use PCA in this case. First I don't understand how it would be applied to a time-series, and in any event it must surely be overkill.<br /><br />The temperature data is a simple time series - he should have just plotted it, with some kind of smoothed version - perhaps a running boxcar average - for comparison / elucidation.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90352686387826035212009-12-04T16:20:26.852-08:002009-12-04T16:20:26.852-08:00or the whole damn theory about C02 in the atmosphe...<i>or the whole damn theory about C02 in the atmosphere (about 1/300th of it) being wrong</i><br /><br />Even less. 1/2000th, actually. Current CO2 levels are between 350 and 400 ppm.Glaivesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16867323638154972101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69491867043602285202009-12-04T15:58:43.275-08:002009-12-04T15:58:43.275-08:00GW is a crock. Most of the people babbling about i...GW is a crock. Most of the people babbling about it do not even understand the 1. and 2. laws of thermodynamics, let alone relative energy yields of the various energy sources. Morons puffing themselves up.headachenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21448114574969938312009-12-04T14:03:10.863-08:002009-12-04T14:03:10.863-08:00Forget about Russia. It was probably a leak.
1. I...Forget about Russia. It was probably a leak.<br /><br />1. It was leaked to a BBC journalist weeks before it was leaked to the blogs. The BBC sat on it.<br /><br />2. After the leak was made public on the blogs CRU blocked all passwords to its database. Why do that unless one or more persons on the list is thought to be a security risk?<br /><br />3. The date of the last email is the 12th. Steve McIntyre learned of the rejection of his FOI request on the 13th. Implication being, someone in CRU heard the FOI request was rejected, was outraged, and publicised the data before SM was himself told.<br /><br />4. The leaker might have reasonable suspicions that Jones might be prepared to delete the relevant data rather than ever hand it over in a FOI request."If they ever hear there is a Freedom of Information Act now in the UK, I think I'll delete the file rather than send to anyone", he said in Feb. 2005.<br />http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=490&filename=1107454306.txtEdwardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06642260769998827550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60403769529920140082009-12-04T13:53:55.104-08:002009-12-04T13:53:55.104-08:00While it may seem counterintuitive given that Russ...<i>While it may seem counterintuitive given that Russia is a cold place without much sunlight, it's really land area that matters most, and they have plenty of that.</i><br /><br />That is completely ridiculous. Yes, it's possible to get large amounts of energy by putting vast numbers of panels across Siberia, but no one would do it because it would cost so much. Each solar panel would effectively be worth a fraction of what an identical panel put in the Northern Sahara would be worth.Sidewaysnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90851204200699446412009-12-04T12:23:20.120-08:002009-12-04T12:23:20.120-08:00I'm looking at these e-mails, that, even thoug...I'm looking at these e-mails, that, even though they were stolen, are now out in the public."<br /><br />Isn't receiving stolen goods a crime?<br /><br />---------------<br /><br />Or it might be called espionage. If CIA can do it against enemies of America, why can't we do it against enemies within? <br /><br />Besides, in this age of the Patriot Act, anything goes.Middletown Girlnoreply@blogger.com