tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post2877570726910958468..comments2024-03-29T05:14:33.223-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Jordy NelsonUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger99125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88243330227018845902014-10-01T17:25:17.422-07:002014-10-01T17:25:17.422-07:00I like how instead of calling us african Americ...I like how instead of calling us african Americans you keep calling us blacks smh Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10160096793901028325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4241462601202355752011-12-03T09:55:51.089-08:002011-12-03T09:55:51.089-08:00Right. What puzzles me is how the fans are so clue...<i>Right. What puzzles me is how the fans are so clueless that they don't know the first two guys you pick for your team are punter and place kicker. That place kickers dominate scoring. That punters dominate field position. Etc.<br /><br /></i><br /><br />I forget how many Field Goals Sebastian Janikowski made against the Bears but I will go with 6.<br /><br />The commentators were saying thta in a punt situation Shane Lechler would not be able to avoid giving the ball to the Bears returner who was established as a big threat.<br /><br />One 80 yard punt later that discussion was academic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54806262063478983592011-11-27T12:20:22.074-08:002011-11-27T12:20:22.074-08:00"I've already explained the socalled fast..."I've already explained the socalled faster maturation rates."<br /><br />While you are correct that blacks are more likely to be retained in school, it is well established in the medical literature that they DO mature faster than whites. This is a double whammy on white athletes and IMO partially explains why they are underrepresented in many sports that start recruiting early like football and basketball.<br /><br />"And if we Whites slow up sooner why do we dominate masters athletics? The bulky fast Blacks are usually obvious drug cheats, live with it."<br /><br />I'm sure you're correct about blacks being more likely to dope than whites (lack of future orientation). The long term effects of PED use would not be conducive to still being competitive by the time one reaches the masters division. Also, lack of future orientation means one is less likely to stay fit and observe a proper diet as one ages. Additionally, middle aged blacks are more likely to be suffering from diabetes and heart disease related problems.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41721148718702831122011-11-25T19:32:24.963-08:002011-11-25T19:32:24.963-08:00“I suppose you'd get something closer to rugby...“I suppose you'd get something closer to rugby, where there's less variation in physical build.”<br /><br />You obviously have no idea of what rugby players are like. What you don’t have are fatties because rugby players have to run for 80 minutes. That said, there is a huge variation in the physical types of the various positions in professional rugby. Backs tend to be built similarly to American football defensive backs, receivers and halfbacks, but usually weigh a little less because they have to be fitter. Front row forwards are relatively short and massive. Most are under 6’ because leverage in the scrums is important (ideally with the tight head prop being tallest, the loose head prop shortest and the hooker in between) and the props usually weigh in the 240-260lb. range and the hooker a bit lighter (210-235lbs.). Second row forwards are very tall (around 6’7”) because they have to jump for the line outs and weigh around 240-260lbs. Flank forwards are the most athletic forwards and are built like football outside LBs and 8-men are usually built like tight ends (though both tend to run a bit lighter than their NFL equivalents because they have to run for 80 minutes).<br /><br />“The fasted white guy I ever met was built like a Rhino. His first 5 meters weren't necessarily the fastest but after that you had better get out of his way. He would have been an amazing football running back and a good blocking back…”<br /><br />Not if his first 5 meters weren’t great. RB is more about acceleration than pure speed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-641213895953061522011-11-25T19:28:53.000-08:002011-11-25T19:28:53.000-08:00“If I had to guess, I would bet that on average wh...“If I had to guess, I would bet that on average whites peak in speed later and then slow up earlier.”<br /><br />The later peak probably has to do with differences in maturation rate. I’ve also noticed that blacks seem to hold-up (i.e. age) better orthopedically than whites. It’s well established that they have higher bone density than whites and suffer less at later ages from osteoporosis. Does anyone know of any studies about the relative quality of their connective tissues (ligaments, tendons, etc.)? Interestingly, blacks have greater elasticity in their muscle-tendon complexes, i.e., they have relatively longer tendons (which are more elastic than muscles – their tendon elasticity is about the same as whites) and their muscles are more elastic. This means that they recycle more energy with each stride and are more efficient. This would seem to imply that whites would have to generate more muscular force when sprinting to get the same results, which may be a factor in causing more injuries and leading whites to burn out quicker. I wonder if greater elasticity and less dissipation of energy also act like a shock-absorber, causing less wear and tear?<br /><br />I’ve also noticed that, unlike their physical frames, blacks’ organ systems seem to give out on them sooner on average than whites’. Not only do they generally have higher rates of cardiovascular, respiratory, liver, kidney, sugar metabolism (diabetes), and senility/dementia, but these ailments also seem to afflict them earlier on average.<br /><br />“I would also guess that with whites, sprinting speed correlates more with a slender build than it does with blacks.”<br /><br />I’ve noticed this too, but I’d say you find three types of fast whites: short and slender (e.g., soccer player Michael Owen - you don’t find many of them playing American football), tall and slender (Lemaitre, Wariner, Nelson, etc.), and short and stocky (Dwight, Woodhead, Welker, etc.). What you don’t find much among whites, but do among blacks, is tall and big people who are fast.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40903177966976727632011-11-25T11:32:17.175-08:002011-11-25T11:32:17.175-08:00To whom it may concern. I am perfectly aware that ...To whom it may concern. I am perfectly aware that a higher percentage of Blacks are fast. I've SEEN it. I'm also aware that there are five times as many Whites as BLacks in the country. And from my observation there are about three times as many fast Whites. That is what I have seen, not a theory.Vivaldi4https://www.blogger.com/profile/00924389520150207091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55210211577834159822011-11-25T11:25:02.823-08:002011-11-25T11:25:02.823-08:00Apparently using blatant slander like 'whitebo...Apparently using blatant slander like 'whiteboys' and 'lily white' is OK. But, caliing out these hatefull commentors by name isn't. Interesting.<br />So, To whom it may concern. White kids are bullied into showing deference to other races, this aplys in sports the same as everywhere else. To deny this is justifying the oppression of children.<br />To whom it may concern. Most majority White college football teams stil have Blacks at the socalled 'speed' positions. It is these Blacks, generally slow, who are responsible for losses to majority Black teams. It is yet another example of good Black players defeating bad Black players. And the White athletes get stuck with the blame.Vivaldi4https://www.blogger.com/profile/00924389520150207091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15452054342209240092011-11-25T11:08:59.117-08:002011-11-25T11:08:59.117-08:00Randy Moss's 10.94 100 meters was a personal b...Randy Moss's 10.94 100 meters was a personal best. That equates to a 40 yard dash of about 4.58. That was in highschool, coming out of college he could run in the 4.4s. That 4.25 claim is imaginary. In the NFL Randy could easily outrun most cornerbacks because their 40 times are also imaginary. Nelson is faster than Moss was.<br />I'd like to see what Nelson could do as a fulltime starter, but it doesn't look as though that's going to happen. But all you Anti-Whites can go on pretending it's all real and fair if thats what makes you happy.Vivaldi4https://www.blogger.com/profile/00924389520150207091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85297989878434073762011-11-24T21:14:41.673-08:002011-11-24T21:14:41.673-08:00Even lily white states realize they need black ath...<i>Even lily white states realize they need black athletic power to win.</i><br /><br />You may be right, but since testing your theory is illegal...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84670216296578377992011-11-24T17:35:45.869-08:002011-11-24T17:35:45.869-08:00re mike vick: it's impossible for a qb with ru...re mike vick: it's impossible for a qb with run-first psychology to be consistent in the NFL. <br /><br />run-first qb's are always getting lower body injuries also.<br /><br />the program of removing Whitey from the qb position by reengineering the game will be pushed even harder. they will probably enact rule changes to kill the pocket passerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39715669116515181662011-11-24T17:30:46.846-08:002011-11-24T17:30:46.846-08:00Hey Anonomous, exactly how do ya define rife? Exce...Hey Anonomous, exactly how do ya define rife? Exceptions prove rules. The cyclist and skiers who've been caught were just sneaking around and using a tiney bit here and there. And do you know why they were caught? It was because the drug testers were actually TRYING to catch them. Unlike your beloved Black roided freaks who look like bodybuilders. But you just keep believing it's us evil White folks who do most of the cheating. Yep, just keep hating, you're good at it.Vivaldi4https://www.blogger.com/profile/00924389520150207091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17230151797133682632011-11-24T08:08:49.851-08:002011-11-24T08:08:49.851-08:00Let's take a look at the 6-10 on the BCS ranki...<i>Let's take a look at the 6-10 on the BCS rankings:<br /><br />6. Stanford 8 black, 14 white<br />7. Boise State 7 black, 15 white<br />8. Houston 17 black, 5 white<br />9. Oklahoma 16 black, 6 white<br />10. Oregon 13 black, 9 white<br /><br />There are also a number of other teams in the top 25 starting 10+ whites: Wisconsin, Nebraska, TCU, Michigan State</i><br /><br />Stanford and Boise State are good teams, granted. However, even with the mighty Andrew Luck, they can't break into the top 5. Btw, how many blacks are there in Idaho? Even lily white states realize they need black athletic power to win.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71690963820148191212011-11-24T02:16:42.808-08:002011-11-24T02:16:42.808-08:00"Have you ever seen a group of White kids wit..."Have you ever seen a group of White kids with one Black playing football in the front yard? Usually the White kids wom't even attempt to tackle the Black. It has been engrained in them since birth to show "respect" to "minorities". And certainly do not use physical force, thats EVIL."<br /><br />Yeah, and it's been "engrained" for black people to play sports and not study, I guess that's why blacks are underrepresented in STEM fields, right?Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48932784657583764862011-11-23T23:16:34.064-08:002011-11-23T23:16:34.064-08:00"College football seems to say the same thing..."College football seems to say the same thing. The blackest teams completely dominate:<br /><br />BCS rankings with number of black starters:<br /><br />1. (18/22) LSU<br />2. (17/22) Alabama<br />3. (17/22) Arkansas<br />4. (16/22) Oklahoma State<br />5. (15/22) Virginia Tech"<br /><br />- <br /><br />Let's take a look at the 6-10 on the BCS rankings:<br /><br />6. Stanford 8 black, 14 white<br />7. Boise State 7 black, 15 white<br />8. Houston 17 black, 5 white<br />9. Oklahoma 16 black, 6 white<br />10. Oregon 13 black, 9 white<br /><br />There are also a number of other teams in the top 25 starting 10+ whites: Wisconsin, Nebraska, TCU, Michigan StateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34148234136992490042011-11-23T23:07:27.200-08:002011-11-23T23:07:27.200-08:00Welker was a walk on too.Welker was a walk on too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10047966049110835932011-11-23T21:56:58.735-08:002011-11-23T21:56:58.735-08:00PED use is rife in "white" sports as wel...PED use is rife in "white" sports as well. Bike racing rivals body building in a better living through chemistry attitude. XC skiing and other endurance/aerobic sports too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43162802875459588082011-11-23T15:21:08.670-08:002011-11-23T15:21:08.670-08:00Where I live, american football is a game for peop...Where I live, american football is a game for people who want to say to themselves that they are athletes, but can´t cut it in the village soccer team. Also, our universities do not have any sports scholarships, or paid sports coaches. Almost all university sports over here are intramural, and athletic ability counts for exactly zilch in college admission. Actually, only grade averages and a SAT-like test count for college admission, there is no ethnic component to it whatsoever. Our college admission is entirely rules-driven, there are no fudge factors in it. All athletes must submit to unannounced PED tests, and if caught cheating will get banned for 2 years (first time) or life (subsequent times). Civil rights laws can NOT protect anyone from unannounced, mandatory PED testing.<br /><br />Other countries have their pros compared to USA.Swordnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52379868049107461222011-11-23T15:05:54.592-08:002011-11-23T15:05:54.592-08:00Justin, Felix...bravo, great comments. But I would...Justin, Felix...bravo, great comments. But I would like to point out that it starts well before college recruiting. Here in the South it starts the first time you go out with the other kids to play kick ball. There is usually some older kid or "humanitarian" mom who takes it upon themselves to decide who gets to be the star. They feel really proud of themselves for cheating kids.<br />Have you ever seen a group of White kids with one Black playing football in the front yard? Usually the White kids wom't even attempt to tackle the Black. It has been engrained in them since birth to show "respect" to "minorities". And certainly do not use physical force, thats EVIL.<br />Unfortunately, around here it's cradle to grave.Vivaldi4https://www.blogger.com/profile/00924389520150207091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28131569029671510562011-11-23T15:04:55.604-08:002011-11-23T15:04:55.604-08:00"Dude, Jordy Nelson had to WALK ON the Kansas..."Dude, Jordy Nelson had to WALK ON the Kansas State team as a DB. He was a 6'3 guy who ran a 10.63 100m (Randy Moss coming out of HS ran a 10.94 100m and was praised to the skies for his speed and athleticism at the time) yet had to WALK ON. Case closed, dude."<br /><br />They use the 40 yard dash, not the 100m in football scouting for a reason: The damn football field is not even 100m long!<br /><br />Yes, as I said earlier, Jordie Nelson was UNDERVALUED. 10.63 is fast, but not head turning, and even after his junior year he was running 4.5 40s....<br /><br />http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=12364&draftyear=2008&genpos=<br /><br />...Randy Moss ran 4.25 40s and both Lou Holz and Bobby Bowden said the was the best HS player they ever saw. So what? he dicked around jogging against some white boys in the W.V. 100 meter final.<br /><br />Jordy Nelson was an average player as a freshman and sophomore...<br /><br />http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jordy-nelson-1.html<br /><br />He had an outstanding jr. year catching balls from an NFL first round QB (who, by they way, only came to Kansas State because they were the only team that did not recruit him to play defensive end.)<br /><br />Randy moss was a Heisman contender who didn't play as a junior. Where's the comparison?<br /><br />http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/randy-moss-1.htmlTruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51332052236600580072011-11-23T14:47:07.122-08:002011-11-23T14:47:07.122-08:00For those of you who point out that the top ranked...For those of you who point out that the top ranked teams in college football are mostly Black, look who they're beating. Yep, other teams who are mostly Black. If you believe the fact that good Black players defeat bad Black players proves that few whites can play, you're simply not thinking.Vivaldi4https://www.blogger.com/profile/00924389520150207091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5573422582336076672011-11-23T11:17:04.834-08:002011-11-23T11:17:04.834-08:00"Truth, the "they will do anything to wi..."Truth, the "they will do anything to win, and are therefore colorbling" argument is falsified by basic observation."<br /><br />You don't read very well do you? Why don't you read my post again, and if you then require more clarity on what I wrote, ask me. I'll be happy to write about Jordy, Peyton Hillis or anyone else.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80593983709716520642011-11-23T09:23:36.614-08:002011-11-23T09:23:36.614-08:00"Football teams are businesses, their intenti..."Football teams are businesses, their intention is to hire people who win games because winning games puts MONEY in the owner's pockets. Therefore, as someone in the later section of posts so eloquently stated, they hire the people that that thing will best help them win games."<br /><br />Even the horrible teams make money with revenue sharing. Just look at the rise in cost for a franchise over the years if you think that winning is the only objective for NFL owners. NFL teams don't have to win to make money or gain in value.<br /><br />http://www.forbes.com/2010/08/25/most-valuable-nfl-teams-business-sports-football-valuations-10_slide_2.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17413454815374713432011-11-23T08:16:43.635-08:002011-11-23T08:16:43.635-08:00Still looking through the scouting sites. If you&#...<b>Still looking through the scouting sites. If you're a good White receiver, you get to play college ball, no question about it. Unfortunately, many can't keep the stats up once they get to NCAA games.</b><br /><br />Dude, Jordy Nelson had to WALK ON the Kansas State team as a DB. He was a 6'3 guy who ran a 10.63 100m (Randy Moss coming out of HS ran a 10.94 100m and was praised to the skies for his speed and athleticism at the time) yet had to WALK ON. Case closed, dude.Felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11136908200424850553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64518189789535787522011-11-23T07:42:38.909-08:002011-11-23T07:42:38.909-08:00Truth, the "they will do anything to win, and...Truth, the "they will do anything to win, and are therefore colorbling" argument is falsified by basic observation. Please explain the career of Peyton Hillis if "winning is colorblind". <br /><br />The idea that football at any level is a "pure meritocracy" is just silly and naive. Guys get benched all the time for no other reason than the coach doesn't like them. Then count all the guys who don't get to showcase their talents because they are "in the wrong system". <br /><br />White athletes have to face the added burden of blatant discrimination which simply keeps them off the field. Welker, Hillis, Woodhead, they all exhibit the same pattern at the pro level. <br /><br />It starts in college recruiting, see for example a detailed analysis here: <a href="http://religionnewsblog.blogspot.com/2011/01/racial-discrimination-in-football.html" rel="nofollow">http://religionnewsblog.blogspot.com/2011/01/racial-discrimination-in-football.html</a><br /><br />Your claim the "winning is colorblind" is simply counter-factual. Whites with equivalent accomplishments and stats simply do not receive the same opportunities. This is factually established.Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01023125641719686613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52925009085183202392011-11-23T05:44:08.091-08:002011-11-23T05:44:08.091-08:00Anon 11:48, Tom Brady doesn't even make as muc...Anon 11:48, Tom Brady doesn't even make as much money as his wife!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com