tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post2950880678907442769..comments2024-03-15T20:52:26.967-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Notice anything missing?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30557958899099118132011-11-29T15:35:41.262-08:002011-11-29T15:35:41.262-08:00When did I ever write that this gentleman should p...When did I ever write that this gentleman should put the job on his resume, Barack?<br /><br />The point is that real Republicans DON'T ACCEPT SOCIAL SERVICES. They pull themselves up by the bootstraps, and if that means washing dishes at night, gosh darnit, that's what you do!Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71976361713392404122011-11-29T06:59:56.917-08:002011-11-29T06:59:56.917-08:00"Truth said...
LOL. I think you miss the..."Truth said...<br /><br /> LOL. I think you miss the entire point there, Ron Paul: You were supposed to eschew government aid (that's for blacks dummy, white people don't need it), and take a job as a dishwasher WHILE looking for a job in your field."<br /><br />Nothing says "desperation" to a potential employer like the resume entry "current position: dishwasher". To say nothing of the fact that looking for a job can be a nearly full time job in itself.<br /><br />That is, if you have a real job, not something that only requires a J-school degree like yours.<br /><br />Nitwit.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58042760317929770882011-11-28T17:03:55.651-08:002011-11-28T17:03:55.651-08:00The more absurd the MSM becomes, the more people l...The more absurd the MSM becomes, the more people look for real answers. Thus, I welcome and encourage articles such as this one. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88666574874542902692011-11-28T15:56:14.672-08:002011-11-28T15:56:14.672-08:00"... I took unemployment... and watched our s..."... I took unemployment... and watched our savings drain at an alarming rate till I got a new job in my field, not washing dishes or picking fruit or something. This was a win all around--amng other things, I am surely paying more taxes now than I'd be if I'd wound up entirely out of my field selling luggage or something."<br /><br />LOL. I think you miss the entire point there, Ron Paul: You were supposed to eschew government aid (that's for blacks dummy, white people don't need it), and take a job as a dishwasher WHILE looking for a job in your field.<br /><br />Great to know the GOP will be getting your vote against that Evil Commie next year!Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24579941232687788972011-11-27T23:50:21.049-08:002011-11-27T23:50:21.049-08:00Captain Aubrey,
Spain and Portugal were long tim...Captain Aubrey,<br /> <br />Spain and Portugal were long time economic basket cases - since the times of Franco and Salazar at least.Their unemployment rates have always been stellar and yet unemployment compensation is meager in both nations.<br /> Ireland is an outlier - no other western economy in history has risen so high - and fallen so low in such a short time.<br /> The lowest levels of worklessness in Europe are found in the north European continental states with high levels of social welfare, strangely enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48176731698163291862011-11-27T17:53:14.648-08:002011-11-27T17:53:14.648-08:00Also, some guy with an underwater mortgage and two...Also, some guy with an underwater mortgage and two kids to get through school who lost his $60K/year job as a sales rep may not be too interested in taking a $20K/year job washing dishes, because that won't solve his current problems (like wanting to pay his mortgsge and send his kids to school, which he can't do on a dishwasher's salary..<br /><br />Some years ago, I spent about six months out of work. I took unemployment (but got no other government assistance) and watched our savings drain at an alarming rate till I got a new job in my field, not washing dishes or picking fruit or something. This was a win all around--amng other things, I am surely paying more taxes now than I'd be if I'd wound up entirely out of my field selling luggage or something.NOTAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1640895674177443582011-11-27T17:26:27.122-08:002011-11-27T17:26:27.122-08:00There are jobs out there for the taking that the u...<i>There are jobs out there for the taking that the unemployed are refusing to take.</i> <br /><br /><br />Oh, shut up. This nonsense is why the right lacks credibility.<br /><br /><br /><i>For a white person $1000 or so a month in unemployment compensation (plus $500 or so in food stamps, etc.) may not be much.</i> <br /><br /><br />As a white person looking for work, I'd be delighted to know where I can either get one of those jobs which you insist are everywhere, or else get that "$1000 or so a month in unemployment compensation". You're living in a fantasy world of your own creation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19891367073430157482011-11-27T15:18:25.172-08:002011-11-27T15:18:25.172-08:00"You're missing the point, until the ille...<i>"You're missing the point, until the illegals are deported (or encouraged to self-deport) there's not much the unemployed can do. If there are far more unemployed workers than there are job vacancies. The jobs simply aren't there regardless whether or not the unemployed are being "subsidized"."</i><br /><br />Do we really have a point? I'm not even sure what the debate is about anymore. That there shouldn't be unemployment benefits? I'm fine with unemployment benefits. It's the generosity of the entire welfare state itself, and not just unemployment insurance, which leads to lower workforce participation and higher unemployment rates.<br /><br />Too many unskilled workers have preferred non-employment to working the only jobs they could qualify for, and too many businesses have preferred hiring cheaper illegals to their American counterparts.<br /><br />As for the effect of illegal immigration on employment opportunities: there are about 8 million illegals working in the country. There are about 16 million people out of work. They are disproportionately young and/or minority, and unskilled. In theory if you kicked out all of the illegals that would be 2 jobs for every opening. The stat you cite (4.6 seekers per opening) does not take into account jobs filled by illegals or guestworkers.Captain Jack Aubreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31463636845994951662011-11-27T14:37:33.597-08:002011-11-27T14:37:33.597-08:00"Subsidized unemployment is having a huge eff..."Subsidized unemployment is having a huge effect on America's present, not to mention its demographic future."<br /><br />You're missing the point, until the illegals are deported (or encouraged to self-deport) there's not much the unemployed can do. If there are far more unemployed workers than there are job vacancies. The jobs simply aren't there regardless whether or not the unemployed are being "subsidized".<br />And since there should be at least one post on this thread to cite actual statistics (instead of quoting "what everybody knows"):<br /><i>There were 4.6 unemployed workers for every job opening in the United States in August, according to new data from the Labor Department.</i><br />http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/12/for-each-u-s-job-opening-4-6-unemployed/beowulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14987548132065830204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73547913016758928022011-11-27T09:41:41.649-08:002011-11-27T09:41:41.649-08:00In Spain the unemployment rate is 22.6%. In Irelan...In Spain the unemployment rate is 22.6%. In Ireland it's 12.5%. In Portugal it's 14.2%. <br /><br />So what people here are saying is that different countries may be at different points in their economic cycles at various times. Go figure. But over the long-term, adjusted for race, workforce particpation is lower in First World countries with generous welfare benefits.<br /><br />For a white person $1000 or so a month in unemployment compensation (plus $500 or so in food stamps, etc.) may not be much. It's not generally a disincentive for work. But for blacks and Hispanics the disincentive is much stronger. <i>Everyone</i> knows people who mooch off the system, who get by on government benefits they don't need or deserve. <i>Everyone</i> knows people who only work for the health care benefits. Who would not work at all were the paid for by the government (= lower workfore participation, which is not technically unemployment). The lure that higher welfare benefits provide to economic parasites - <a href="http://www.wpri.org/Reports/Volume%201/Vol1no5.pdf" rel="nofollow">the Wisconsin Effect</a> - is well known.<br /><br />There are jobs out there for the taking that the unemployed are refusing to take. They are being filled by ~8 million illegal aliens. Employers have no incentive to raise wages or improve working conditions to attract unemployed Americans, and Americans collecting unemployment checks have no incentive to take them. Subsidized unemployment is having a huge effect on America's present, not to mention its demographic future.Captain Jack Aubreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8618929954401467132011-11-27T09:19:56.613-08:002011-11-27T09:19:56.613-08:00My guess is that you're not dealing with consc...<i>My guess is that you're not dealing with conscious lying by omission here, you're dealing with ideological blind spots. The writer and his sources' models of the world don't include the idea that immigration costs natives their jobs. </i><br /><br /><br />Capital looks at all people as consumers of their products. Since they get the profits from what is consumed, the more people the better. It doesn't matter if the profits come because people are spending earned wages or unemployment or welfare benefits. Money is money and the poor spend every dime, saving nothing. They are the optimal consumers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22891131094156256662011-11-27T09:09:21.805-08:002011-11-27T09:09:21.805-08:00Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that the labor ...Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that the labor participation rate is 58%.<br /><br />Gee, if the chicks stayed home, maybe the guys could do the work. Oops, that is hate speech. Women need to be working to keep the native population from increasing and leaving no room for immigrants who have among their human rights, the right to come to the US.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1481830346880036392011-11-27T07:19:28.965-08:002011-11-27T07:19:28.965-08:00Note to Mr. Sailor, posted as comment to: Notice a...Note to Mr. Sailor, posted as comment to: <a href="http://isteve.blogspot.com/2011/11/notice-anything-missing.html" rel="nofollow">Notice anything missing</a>: <br /><br />Please take note of the following article: <a href="http://why-we-are-white-refugees.blogspot.com/2011/11/steve-sailors-conservative-hypocrisy.html" rel="nofollow">Steve Sailor's conservative hypocrisy: A critic of liberals who persecute conservatives, while he covertly endorses NYT persecution of white Africans</a>.<br /><br />As a blogger who practices honourable constructive criticism; you are provided the opportunity of response, and your response shall be published in full; should you wish to discuss the allegations against yourself.<br /><br />27 November 2011 17:20 (GMT+2)Andrea Muhrrteynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13455575591213217060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55318036469528362011-11-27T06:30:00.449-08:002011-11-27T06:30:00.449-08:00"Citation needed. If lots of unemployed peopl...<i>"Citation needed. If lots of unemployed people are also using all those other programs, surely you can cire some numbers."<br /><br />What, you think they're NOT using them? Spare me. If you're collecting an unemployment check then you're almost certainly collecting food stamps and a host of other benefits.</i><br /><br />You're wrong. Many (or most) unemployed people have a spouse who's working. And if your spouse is working, you're not getting food stamps or any of the other freebies you mentioned.ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82687147661340124232011-11-27T06:21:50.095-08:002011-11-27T06:21:50.095-08:00Of course unemployment and welfare benefits aren&#...<i>Of course unemployment and welfare benefits aren't the only factor driving unemployment rates. What they are is an enabler.</i><br /><br />Enables them to eat. The last numbers I've seen (for August) were 4.6 unemployed workers for every job vacancy. Its BS to call unemployment benefits "an enabler" when the jobs simply aren't there.beowulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14987548132065830204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17796588244247183612011-11-27T04:18:49.897-08:002011-11-27T04:18:49.897-08:00“You've got it all wrong.”
I understand, as I...“You've got it all wrong.”<br /><br />I understand, as I think everyone does, that the change in conditions was a drop in demand. The question is what to do about it. So far, increasing demand with more expansionary fiscal and monetary policy has resulted in about half inflation and half real growth and increased jobs. That should not be happening at 9%+ unemployment, according to standard models.<br /><br />So perhaps we ought to look at other remedies. The macro-economy is never just a demand problem or a supply problem. Both supply and demand factors are always operating simultaneously.Henry Canadaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18396835905308258512011-11-27T01:49:26.344-08:002011-11-27T01:49:26.344-08:00Henry Canaday,
You've got it all wrong.
Befor...Henry Canaday,<br /><br />You've got it all wrong.<br />Before the minority mortgage meltdown sh*t hit the fan in 2008 (Steve Sailer's name in history will forever be honored for making the right call on this, one Steve is worth a billion 'economists'), US unemployment during the housing boom was very low and falling.Hell, trucking companies and the like were scouring the street for drivers - THE symptom of THE classic economic boom.<br /> If we trace all phenomena back to their causes, we see that monetary expansion (ie the whole subprime sh*t ultimately based on imported money) drove the boom.A worker can only be paid if the employer has the actual cash to employ him, at that time America was awash with cash and awash with jobs.<br /> After the sh*t hit the fan, bank credit dried up and the money supply tanked - look at graphs of M3 for that period.The employment rate mirrored M3 in lock-step but with a time lag.It is THIS and only THIS that dtermined today's unemployment, blaming unemployment insurance and lack of 'flexibility' or another other crap just displays economic illiteracy of the highest order.<br /> Granted there are some workers who abuse unemplyment pay - but they are not many.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68299657389130283012011-11-27T00:57:41.013-08:002011-11-27T00:57:41.013-08:00Mr.Sailer, your abhorrent racist views reach a new...Mr.Sailer, your abhorrent racist views reach a new low.<br /><br /> I wish you'll instead feel empathy towards my fellow co-religionists who, despite being affected by unique sufferings like aging, dying or having neighbours replaced by foreigners, manage to <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/27/nyregion/community-of-holocaust-survivors-dwindles-in-queens.html?pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow">really appreciate </a> being surrounded by this rich diversity.Abe Fauxmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37174378373410185832011-11-27T00:54:21.921-08:002011-11-27T00:54:21.921-08:00NOTA,
Median wages in Ireland (despite the e...NOTA,<br /> Median wages in Ireland (despite the economic crisis), are substantially higher than American median wages.<br /> This is 2011 and not 1971.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25697995570162687652011-11-27T00:50:22.218-08:002011-11-27T00:50:22.218-08:00Captain Aubrey
Not true.American unemployment is ...Captain Aubrey<br /><br />Not true.American unemployment is higher than the eU average and higher than the welfare generous Scandinavian states.<br /> Throughout the 1950s, 60s and 70s, the USA was cgaracterized by a much greater level of unemployment than western Europe.Europe economically stagnated in the 70s and 80s - and unemployment became persistent from then onwards.Deflationary measures imposed by the EU to bring in the Euro didn't help.<br /> Anyway, as many people have said the *real* rate of unemployment in the USA is likely around 20%,Only some basket-case Europen nations like Spain or Greece match that.<br /> The northern European states with generous unemployment pay have modest levels of joblessness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12659069814293113922011-11-26T19:11:22.609-08:002011-11-26T19:11:22.609-08:00"When the jobless recovery ends and the econo..."When the jobless recovery ends and the economy is restored to good health"<br /><br />i would not be too sure of that. the current situation could be the new normal.jodynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39483710772217591902011-11-26T17:55:46.878-08:002011-11-26T17:55:46.878-08:00European unemployment rates have long been higher ...<i>European unemployment rates have long been higher than unemployment rates for American whites.</i> <br /><br /><br />I doubt that very much. It's more accurate to say that the US counts the unemployment rate in a fashion which makes it almost certain to be lower than the unemployment rate in Europe. There are masses of people in America at present who do not have a job and also do not show up in the government statistics as being unemployed.<br /><br />And you're almost certainly wrong about the "whites" bit. The current unemployment rate in Germany is 5.8%. The official unemployment rate for US whites is 8%, but adjusting it to measure the same thing as is measured in Europe would push that north of 10%.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10588968461553302502011-11-26T17:54:25.176-08:002011-11-26T17:54:25.176-08:00"Citation needed. If lots of unemployed peopl...<b>"Citation needed. If lots of unemployed people are also using all those other programs, surely you can cire some numbers."</b><br /><br />What, you think they're NOT using them? Spare me. If you're collecting an unemployment check then you're almost certainly collecting food stamps and a host of other benefits. No one collecting $15,000 a year in unemployment is going to leave $6300 of food stamps on the table. Federal government spending on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_federal_budget#Total_spending" rel="nofollow">various welfare programs</a>, including unemployment, was up 58.6% in 2010, to $571 billion.<br /><br />No one here's been citing any fucking numbers. <a href="http://chartingtheeconomy.com/?p=1399" rel="nofollow">So I will.</a> According to this chart from 2 years ago, the LOWEST weekly unemployment benefit was in Mississippi, at just under $200. The AVERAGE was higher, and according to the chart is probably around $270-300, or $1170-1300 a month (4 1/3 weeks per month).<br /><br />Of course unemployment and welfare benefits aren't the only factor driving unemployment rates. What they are is an enabler.Captain Jack Aubreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27692350602586029442011-11-26T17:46:44.088-08:002011-11-26T17:46:44.088-08:00One of Bob Newhart's earliest bits concerned h...<i>One of Bob Newhart's earliest bits concerned his short-lived job at the Unemployment Office. He complained -- ever so gently -- that the recipients collected just $5 less than he got for a week's work, and they only had to show up once a week. It has been ever thus</i> <br /><br /><br /><br />You're citing a comedy routine by Bob Newhart to support your argument?<br /><br />That's funny all right, but I suspect not what you were aiming for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88887950591590453382011-11-26T17:14:57.324-08:002011-11-26T17:14:57.324-08:00Beyond the multi-cult and the cheap labor issue, t...Beyond the multi-cult and the cheap labor issue, there is a real big reason business and "government" tend to support immigration.<br /><br />Simply, a consumer driven society demands new consumers. Its really as another blogger put it, a kind of Ponzi scheme.<br /><br />if we made durable, lasting quality goods and controlled our population growth it would be impossible to support large companies, big government or a lot of the things our surplus buys.<br /><br />Capitalism basically would cease to function very quickly. And yes this would include the military industrial complex as well. Thus the system has to have new people, even if they are inferior too the existing ones and even if in numbers they don't add up. <br /><br />Its a stop gap measure.Matt Strictlandnoreply@blogger.com