tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post3047031057340357117..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Obama the YankeeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86759603857066335932010-09-20T02:04:48.512-07:002010-09-20T02:04:48.512-07:00Title speaks for itself:
http://www.veteranstoday...Title speaks for itself:<br /><br />http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/08/18/wayne-madsen-obamas-cia-connections-part-i-and-ii/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6329265503875891192010-09-19T05:25:09.415-07:002010-09-19T05:25:09.415-07:00“Of course, there's another possibility here, ...“Of course, there's another possibility here, which is that the Ayers-Obama relationship was so intimate [many have wondered whether the two bisexual men did indeed consummate their affair physically, and surely they must have often used illegal drugs together] …”<br /><br />Whoa! So that means Sasha and Malia might actually be the daughters of Ayers x Obama- And the Michelle is just there as a CIA plant to monitor Obama? But then Ayers would have to be at least half of another race too, to get kids so dark- He is a muslim sympathizer, so maybe he actually is Saudi since they are the ones who put up all the oil money that runs the CIA (see Bush Sr.) - So really it was all just a way for the Saudi royal family to get their family into the White House so that it would become part of Dar al-Islam “House of Islam” so that they could then de facto rule the US… So now they will have to paint the space shuttle a different color… Dick Gregory said it was white so that white people would know to get on it when the earth explodes but if the Saudis run things now they will paint it sand colored for their reference- or maybe they already are doing that, which is why suddenly NASA decided to “quit using space shuttles”- had to recall them for the new paint job, takes a while… And that would explain all the controversy in Arizona- they need to hide the sand-colored space shuttles somewhere so they cook up this illegal alien stuff so that they can have alot of government guys out there in the desert to pretend to be patrolling around for illegals but actually guarding the sand-colored space shuttles.OpenEyesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4111063689989687032010-09-17T19:40:30.061-07:002010-09-17T19:40:30.061-07:00Truth: You do realize I'm defending Obama'...Truth: You do realize I'm defending Obama's veracity against implausible attacks, right?James Kabalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02335302113772004687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32467287544310846632010-09-17T19:03:01.282-07:002010-09-17T19:03:01.282-07:00James Kabala said..."Kylie: A while back a co...James Kabala said..."Kylie: A while back a commenter reported that the identity of Obama's white former girlfriend was well-known in the Connecticut town where her family still lives and that the details given in Obama's account matched the details of her family and their summer home. He (the commenter) used no names in order to protect her privacy, but he seemed convincing."<br /><br />Yes, I remember reading that but forgot where I read it. Thanks for the reminder.<br /><br />Frankly, the particulars of Ayers's and/or Obama's romances don't interest me. My larger point is that given a choice, Obama would rather have identified with being white. But that would have meant running the constant risk of racial slights, something his "healthy" ego wouldn't permit. So he chose to identify with being black. After all, it's a lot easier being an outsider than an interloper. <br /><br />I suspect for that reason and others that his first serious relationship was with a white woman. I could be wrong but the psychology of it seems right.<br /><br />And all of that means (to me, at least) that Obama has a real sense of racial grievance and entitlement. We would do well to bear that in mind.Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34519557079643980812010-09-17T15:09:43.002-07:002010-09-17T15:09:43.002-07:00"He (the commenter) used no names in order to..."He (the commenter) used no names in order to protect her privacy, but he seemed convincing."<br /><br />an anonymous poster on a chatboard fabricate something, you're right, James, the odds of that are slim.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58210947465579982862010-09-17T13:28:29.059-07:002010-09-17T13:28:29.059-07:00"the Obama family in Kenya hates the memory o..."the Obama family in Kenya hates the memory of Kenyatta"<br /><br />I guess this explains why Obama hates us Brits so much - he was from the pro-American tribe, and their enemies were the pro-British tribe. I often forget how the US and UK were frequently opposed at leasr up until the '70s, when British power had declined sufficiently.Simon in Londonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77934763091241165032010-09-17T11:08:26.989-07:002010-09-17T11:08:26.989-07:00Kylie: A while back a commenter reported that the ...Kylie: A while back a commenter reported that the identity of Obama's white former girlfriend was well-known in the Connecticut town where her family still lives and that the details given in Obama's account matched the details of her family and their summer home. He (the commenter) used no names in order to protect her privacy, but he seemed convincing. <br /><br />And I agree with you - even if we were to accept the Ayers ghostwriter theory as true, I can't imagine why he would import his own ex-girlfriend into someone else's life story.James Kabalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02335302113772004687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79991503186694400332010-09-17T07:44:50.671-07:002010-09-17T07:44:50.671-07:00"That affluent white girlfriend" was bas...<i>"That affluent white girlfriend" <a href="http://www.alltheweb.com/search?q=diana+oughton+site%3Acashill.com" rel="nofollow">was based on</a> Ayers's memories of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Oughton" rel="nofollow">Diana Oughton</a>.</i> <br /><br /><i>I've read that elsewhere but has your assertion been substantiated?</i> <br /><br />Click on "<a href="http://www.alltheweb.com/search?q=diana+oughton+site%3Acashill.com" rel="nofollow">was based on</a>".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18026918428001107122010-09-16T21:19:04.419-07:002010-09-16T21:19:04.419-07:00Anonymous said..."'That affluent white gi...Anonymous said..."'That affluent white girlfriend' was based on Ayers's memories of Diana Oughton."<br /><br />I've read that elsewhere but has your assertion been substantiated? I know Ayers knew Oughton but did he graft memories of his own romance onto the story of Barry's life?<br /><br />In any case, I think my theory stands. Others have noticed Obama's nerdish qualities. I think he decided to identify with blacks rather than whites to avoid racial slights (which might seem outlandish till you recall how he goes on and on about the perceived slight by a Kenyan waiter who preferred serving white diners). Given a choice, I suspect Obama would have preferred to go the route of the exotic but acceptable biracial guy in white society. He never really seems comfortable getting down with his people.Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19343999679429501532010-09-16T19:19:52.291-07:002010-09-16T19:19:52.291-07:00A more secure Barack or Barry would not have looke...<i>A more secure Barack or Barry would not have looked at <b>that affluent white girlfriend</b>'s environment and thought, "This can never be for me" and subsequently "pushed" her away.</i> <br /><br />"That affluent white girlfriend" <a href="http://www.alltheweb.com/search?q=diana+oughton+site%3Acashill.com" rel="nofollow">was based on</a> Ayers's memories of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Oughton" rel="nofollow">Diana Oughton</a>.<br /><br />PS: I often wonder whether <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardine_Dohrn" rel="nofollow">Bernardine "Dohrn" Ohrnstein</a> intentionally rigged <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwich_Village_townhouse_explosion" rel="nofollow">the townhouse explosion</a> so as to remove Diana Oughton from the competition for Ayers's hand in marriage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29014268382995635612010-09-16T13:47:10.598-07:002010-09-16T13:47:10.598-07:00re Obama's CIA connections:
The animated Past...re Obama's CIA connections:<br /><br />The animated <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/ATLAHWorldwide#p/u/51/d5qxPKQJh-g" rel="nofollow">Pastor Manning</a> has been hitting on this for over a year. <br /><br />[See especially 2:50 to 4:15 in this <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5qxPKQJh-g" rel="nofollow">video</a> for a summary of the allegations of Obama being a longtime CIA asset].Wandererhttp://img517.imageshack.us/img517/280/growthideologywp7.jpgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49980901138297502882010-09-16T09:40:53.599-07:002010-09-16T09:40:53.599-07:00Reg Caesar: If the ancestor was originally named ...Reg Caesar: If the ancestor was originally named Singletary, does anyone know why he later adopted the pseudonym "Dunham?" Or is that lost in the mists of time?James Kabalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02335302113772004687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79310931798505333182010-09-16T09:39:33.828-07:002010-09-16T09:39:33.828-07:00Travis: Valid point. The FDR issue was only a sma...Travis: Valid point. The FDR issue was only a smart of the clip, even if overemphasized by the man who wrote the YouTube summary of the clip.<br /><br />A more valid objection: Maybe I haven't spent enough time among true Yankees, but stereotypically they are very cold and reserved; the talking-so-no-one-can-get-a-word-in-edgewise style seems much more "ethnic." Is this based on a real disastrous dinner later described by Hughes or Hepburn, or is it an invention of Scorsese?James Kabalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02335302113772004687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87139474907584870992010-09-16T01:30:35.858-07:002010-09-16T01:30:35.858-07:00"...Obama is distantly related to Cheney...&q..."...Obama is distantly related to Cheney..." --Dahinda<br /><br />And to Richard Nixon (and me), as well, through one George Allen, a Massachusetts Quaker whose sons-in-law were jailed for practicing that particular faith.Reg Caesarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47464780457915286772010-09-16T01:19:42.412-07:002010-09-16T01:19:42.412-07:00Obama's New England ancestry totals a whopping...Obama's New England ancestry totals a whopping 0.6 percent, all on his father's side.<br /><br />The first Dunham in America was actually named Singletary. His son left Massachusetts in disgrace, changing his surname and settling in Woodbridge, N. J., where a lot of other disgruntled Puritans ended up. Later Dunhams kept moving farther south, then west. They're a long line of nuts, for sure, but Yankee they're not, not for many generations.<br /><br />Another interesting Woodbridge clan was the Ayers family. Bill's line has been traced to the adjacent county to the south, so he may also have a Woodbridge connection. But there's no evidence of that, yet.Reg Caesarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24813719578578761592010-09-15T22:24:54.658-07:002010-09-15T22:24:54.658-07:00Steve, doesn't your argument have to change if...Steve, doesn't your argument have to change if Obama's biographies were ghost-written? There seems to be a fairly strong argument for that being the case for at least, IIRC, Dreams of My Father (including a potentially tantalizing Bill Ayers connection). As I'm sure you know, ghost-writing isn't uncommon in the sphere of political memoirs, and for such a prepackaged product as Obama, should we expect any less? If this is indeed the case, what can we really glean about Obama's psychological profile from his books? Presumably he at least had to sign off on the material in the books, but beyond that, I'm not sure we can be confident the author is speaking in Obama's voice.Hansnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48176529536698492162010-09-15T22:22:23.050-07:002010-09-15T22:22:23.050-07:00Far from being the mere ‘son of a goat herder’ (as...Far from being the mere ‘son of a goat herder’ (as he deceptively paraded during and even before his candidacy), strong evidence has emerged that President Barack Obama is the product of the intelligence community. Investigative reporter and former NSA employee Wayne Madsen has put together an extensive three-part (and growing) series with conclusive proof and documentation that Barack Obama Sr., Stanley Ann Dunham, Lolo Soetoro and President Barack Obama himself all hold deep ties to the CIA and larger intelligence community. And that’s just the beginning.<br />After his election, President Obama quickly moved to seal off his records via an executive order. Now, after two years of hints and clues, there is substantial information to demonstrate that what Obama has omitted is that his rare rise to power can only be explained by his intelligence roots. However, this is more than the story of one man or his family. There is a long-term strategic plan to recruit promising candidates into intelligence and steer these individuals and their families into positions of influence and power. Consider that it is now declassified former British Prime Minister Tony Blair was recruited into MI5 before becoming a labour leader, or that George H. W. Bush not only became CIA director in 1976 but had a deeper past in the organization. While we may never know many pertinent details about these matters, one thing that is certain is that the American people have never been told the truth about who holds the real power, nor who this president– and likely many others– really is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3314693057571250512010-09-15T20:16:36.072-07:002010-09-15T20:16:36.072-07:00A big problem with that clip is that most Yankees ...<i>A big problem with that clip is that most Yankees actually opposed FDR. If the real Hepburns were socialists, they were not typical.</i><br /><br />It's my belief that Scorsese's intention is to drive home the point that, regardless of his money, accomplishments, and political affliations, Hughes simply wasn't a member of the tribe. As Scorsese presents it, the real villians were not socialists but, instead, members of the Republican establishment: Senator Owen Brester (Harvard Law), played by Alan Alda, and the president of Pan Am, Juan Trippe (Skull & Bones), played by Alec Baldwin.<br /><br />All I'm suggesting is that we not lose sight of the fact that Obama's bona fides for admission into the the Yankee tribe are better than most white folk.travisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57788667431926585962010-09-15T18:23:45.326-07:002010-09-15T18:23:45.326-07:00If you're unclear who is and isn't a "...If you're unclear who is and isn't a "Yankee," watch this clip from The Aviator.<br /><br />Classic example of unskilled libs sneering at the skilled.alexishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14958611059030729965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68170843177632426172010-09-15T18:08:52.544-07:002010-09-15T18:08:52.544-07:00, the occasional economist or journalist who would...<i>, the occasional economist or journalist who would mysteriously disappear for months at a time, their affiliation or function in the embassy never quite clear [i.e., Obama is implying that they were CIA]. ... </i><br /><br />I'm no expert but my impression is that CIA people normally travel under diplomatic cover (i.e., they carry diplomatic passports) for protection. Journalists etc. are not CIA people. They are useful people who are paid for their info, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21626104706724902642010-09-15T17:48:55.865-07:002010-09-15T17:48:55.865-07:00Travis: A big problem with that clip is that most...Travis: A big problem with that clip is that most Yankees actually opposed FDR. If the real Hepburns were socialists, they were not typical. The economically leftist Yankee is a relatively recent product. (But Hepburn is actually a Scottish name, isn't it?)<br /><br />The "we read books" part rings true, however.<br /><br />Based on that clip, Blanchett's Oscar seems undeserved. (Granted, she had hardly any lines, but they were both stiffly delivered and not very much like the real Hepburn.)James Kabalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02335302113772004687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30365428559210527642010-09-15T17:22:12.015-07:002010-09-15T17:22:12.015-07:00Travis, are you being intentionally dense out of s...Travis, are you being intentionally dense out of some sense of regional or ethnic animus, or do you genuinely believe your keen ability to spot (label those you dislike) "Yankees" gives you special insights? We've established that Obama's mother's ancestry is far from Yankee. re: the dramatization you recommend, Katherine Hepburn's father was a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Hepburn" rel="nofollow">Southerner</a>: <br /><br /><i>Hepburn was born in Hartford, Connecticut, the daughter of suffragette Katharine Martha Houghton (1878 – 1951) (an heiress to the Corning Glass fortune and co-founder of Planned Parenthood) and Dr. Thomas Norval Hepburn (1879 – 1962), who was a successful urologist from Virginia with Maryland roots. </i><br /><br />Yankees (unlike most of the rest of the country) did not vote for FDR.n/ahttp://racehist.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59363817184176769042010-09-15T16:23:49.327-07:002010-09-15T16:23:49.327-07:00Brillant post, Steve. You're thirty years ahea...Brillant post, Steve. You're thirty years ahead of all other Obama commentators.<br /><br /><i>Yankee shmankee. Those people are so long ago: his influences were his grandparents and his mother and stepfather.</i><br /><br />To quote Obama quoting Faulkner, "The past is never dead. It's not even past."<br /><br />If you're unclear who is and isn't a "Yankee," watch <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ky-lQ0jSP8" rel="nofollow">this clip</a> from The Aviator.travisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80885417175386871652010-09-15T15:04:10.653-07:002010-09-15T15:04:10.653-07:00Anonymous said..."The Men who make civilizati...Anonymous said..."The Men who make civilization don't tend to be content with their inner lives.<br /><br />A man who is 'content' with himself and thus lacks any drive moves to or remains in a small town or quiet suburb, gets a wife and kids who will quickly annoy him, gets a monotonous dead end job that will slowly kill him inside and will ultimately go unrecorded by History."<br /><br />I wasn't talking about contentment at all. I was talking about a lack of inner confidence, a lack of belief in oneself so that one looks outward to compensate. I think Bill Clinton has the kind of confidence I'm talking about. However uncertain and trashy his background, he doesn't seem to have agonized over it much. The man has a genuine belief in himself that comes from within. Ditto Ronald Reagan. That didn't mean they weren't interested in power, only that they didn't need the power for self-affirmation the way Obama does. <br /><br />By contrast, I think Obama only feels confident when basking in the warmth of approval and even adulation. That's why he's so often seemed so passive and almost lethargic since taking office. I don't think he ever really realized that once he was President, he'd be subject to the same attacks every other POTUS has had to face.<br /><br />History is full of men who were confident but not content. In my opinion, left to his own scant inner resources, Obama is neither.Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43657115416318137202010-09-15T14:43:38.506-07:002010-09-15T14:43:38.506-07:00(from http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html)
...(from http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html) <i><br />Several of Mr. Obama's maternal ancestors owned slaves. Mr. Obama's slave-owning ancestors include George Washington Overall (number 110, above, husband of Mrs. Louisiana Duvall Overall and father-in-law of the Christopher Columbus Clark mentioned above) and Mrs. Mary Grable Duvall (number 223, above, mother of Mrs. Louisiana Duvall Overall and grandmother-in-law of Christopher Columbus Clark), both of whom are enumerated in the 1850 Federal Census as slave owners. George Washington Overall is also enumerated in the 1860 Federal Census as a slave owner. Other slave-owning ancestors of Mr. Obama include John P. Childress (or Childers, number 212, above), who was enumerated in the 1860 Federal Census as a slave owner. </i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com