tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post3076861648353409379..comments2024-03-19T02:31:02.140-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Dept. of It Ain't Broken, So Let's Fix ItUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-11084801949025400532009-12-10T11:41:44.542-08:002009-12-10T11:41:44.542-08:00Women often beg for "honesty" for, yes, ...<i>Women often beg for "honesty" for, yes, self-affirmation, but also because they are of the opinion that "sharing" = "intimacy. It doesn't.</i><br /><br />This is one of the wisest statements I've ever read, and yet the psycho-babble about "honesty" goes on and on. <br /><br />On another front, because of the way that we're made, women insist on believing that men, too, internalize and worry over trivial junk. It was a wonderful revelation to discover that the male of the species really does allow most stuff to roll off his back. While we women are agitating over some dumb bit of nonsense, the guy has long forgotten it. He has really forgotten it. I like that.Victoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06823851448364528821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66869109335327499492009-12-10T07:59:48.344-08:002009-12-10T07:59:48.344-08:00Sounds like we might have a little chemistry here ...Sounds like we might have a little chemistry here between Clare Krishan and OhioStater.<br /><br />Any way we can arrange for them to exchange email addresses?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62246703196742458712009-12-10T07:44:16.701-08:002009-12-10T07:44:16.701-08:001)Make love more.
2)Criticize less.
Do you have ...<i>1)Make love more.<br />2)Criticize less.</i> <br /><br />Do you have any sisters who are still single?<br /><br />Maybe a cousin?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81604480608812170652009-12-09T18:39:12.813-08:002009-12-09T18:39:12.813-08:00How can that "Dan" in the NY Times artic...How can that "Dan" in the NY Times article allow his wife to publish all those intimate details of his life, including he and his wife's sex life? Rather than writing that long winded and embarrassing expose on their pitiful "relationship", it would've been far more dignified to put a youtube video of Dan crying in his panties. What a disgrace....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52131249737615652502009-12-09T15:45:41.609-08:002009-12-09T15:45:41.609-08:00"what kind of moron would contrast spending o..."what kind of moron would contrast spending on Iraq with spending on self-help books to prove something about either sex?"<br /><br />Connection's pretty obvious. Both sexes have destructive tendencies for their pet We Have to Do Something About It cause.<br /><br />For women, it's channeled into worrying about health and well-being, so they sink a bunch of money into unnecessary self-help, subsidized health care, etc.<br /><br />For men, it's channeled into worrying about balances of power, so they sink a bunch into foreign policy, subsidized sports teams, etc. (Steve notes that a lot of the foreign policy fervor in the Bos-Wash area is because they don't have as many good college sports teams to root for.)<br /><br />Tally up the destructiveness of each side, and see whose silliness is a bigger drain. Back-of-the-envelope looks like the male-typical causes costs more.<br /><br />Could change down the line if we pull out of the interventionist business and give away more health care. But right now, while female silliness is more annoying than male silliness, one costs us a lot more than the other.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8604960763952249202009-12-09T15:01:32.830-08:002009-12-09T15:01:32.830-08:00On the other hand, what about Sailer and our obses...On the other hand, what about Sailer and our obsession or yammering about Mad Men? Isn't that show about narcissistic, self-aggrandizing, vain, and vapid boys and girls? <br /><br />And, isn't the NPR crowd mad about that show because it both flatters their own sense of nouveau-privilege AND pretends to dispense satirical critique of American capitalism? <br />Heck, why not have it all? Bill Gates and the Google boys may be the richest greediest capitalists in the world, but they're also apparently the most progressive do-gooders working to help the 'little guy'.Middletown Girlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41874636066245017842009-12-09T14:53:54.154-08:002009-12-09T14:53:54.154-08:00This is rather the norm if you think about it. Mos...This is rather the norm if you think about it. Most journalism caters to middle class folks, and most middle class folks prefer middle class themed stories. This leads to a contradiction of sorts. Middle class stories are generally not the crisis-ridden/man-bites-dog stories. But, news must be dIfFeReNt and man-bites-doggish to attract attention. So, the trick is to take middle class stories and inject them with a sense of crisis, panic, or some such. <br />So, Time Magazine ran covers about 'are we not spending enough time with kids', 'are we spending too much time with kids', 'are kids not studying hard enough', 'are kids burdened with too much homework', 'are women at work happy', are women unhappy at work', 'are women happy at home', 'are men unhappy at home', 'are men watching too much sports on tv', 'are men too sissy, are men too macho', etc, etc. AND IF WE DON'T DO WHATEVE'S NECESSARY, WILL IT BE THE END OF THE WORLD????!!! <br /><br />This way, you get the same middle class themed crap over and over, but it's filled with drama, intensity, meaning, discourse, etc. It also passes for 'intellectual' since everything is, of course, political. <br /><br />When the privileged middle class had been much smaller relative to the poorer classes, educated journalistic types found adventure and meaning among the less fortunate. But, the vast majority of Americans now belong to the middle class, so most journalists see nothing but middle classness all around. But, their role as journalists require that they find CRISIS. So, they nitpick everything about their lives, their friends' lives... or they just imagine new ones out of the air. <br /><br />And the fact that we have more and more venues for news means that there's more competition for viewership and readership. Most people are shallow and narcissistic and prefer goo goo news. For news organizations to compete, they must run stories catering to and flattering middle class conceits and youthful tastes. <br /><br />News used to be more dignified when it had been controlled by few networks and print journalism. The news masters could maintain a loftier tone since everyone had to rely on them for news. There was Walter Cronkite, Time magazine, and local paper. But with the rise of cable news, internet, tabloid, and etc, once respectable news organizations have had to compete with new media by going for the lowest common denonimator--narcissistic self-worth and self-pity. In an age when Oprah passes for the Oracle and Obama passes for Neo, whaddya expect?Middletown Girlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45478563342448196252009-12-09T14:15:18.266-08:002009-12-09T14:15:18.266-08:00what kind of moron would contrast spending on Iraq...<i>what kind of moron would contrast spending on Iraq with spending on self-help books to prove something about either sex? can Truth step up and improve on this stupidity?</i><br /><br />I love how you all you guys are quantitative-minded... until you're not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54983081658220521172009-12-09T14:14:37.479-08:002009-12-09T14:14:37.479-08:00I just browsed that article and these people are h...I just browsed that article and these people are horrifying caricatures of SWPL, with all their dilettantish power-hobbies and narcissistic self-improvement projects<br /><br />I want to kick them both in the faceUdolpho.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12976984423336975944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91122734955173698152009-12-09T12:10:40.226-08:002009-12-09T12:10:40.226-08:00To corroborate my previous post, here is a relatio...To corroborate my previous post, here is a <a rel="nofollow">relationship article from CNN</a> (courtesy of Whiskey):<br /><br /><i><br />I contemplate divorce every day. It tugs on my sleeve each morning when my husband, Will, greets me in his chipper, smug morning-person voice, because after 16 years of waking up together, he still hasn't quite pieced out that I'm not viable before 10 a.m.<br /><br />It puts two hands on my forehead and mercilessly presses when he blurts out the exact wrong thing ("Are you excited for your surprise party next Tuesday?"); when he lies to avoid the fight ("What do you mean I left our apartment door open? I never even knew our apartment had a door!"); when he buttons his shirt and jacket into the wrong buttonholes, collars and seams unaligned like a vertical game of dominoes, with possibly a scrap of shirttail zippered into his fly.<br /><br />It flicks me, hard, just under the eye when, during a parent-teacher conference, he raises his arm high in the air, scratches his armpit, and then --then! -- absently smells his fingers.<br /><br />It slammed into me like a 4,000-pound Volvo station wagon one spring evening four years ago, although I remember it as if it were last year.<br /><br />He had dropped me off in front of a restaurant, prior to finding a parking spot. As I crossed in front of the car, he pulled forward, happily smiling back over his left shoulder at some random fascinating bit (a sign with an interesting font, a new scaffolding, a diner that he may or may not have eaten at the week after he graduated from college), and plowed into me. The impact, while not wondrous enough to break bodies 12 ways, was sufficient to bounce me sidewise onto the hood, legs waving in the air like antennae, skirt flung somewhere up around my ears.<br /><br />For one whole second, New York City stood stock-still and looked at my underwear.<br /></i><br /><br />What this harpy doesn't realize, of course, is that after a decade and a half of brow-beating, her mild-mannered, well-meaning lesser beta husband has become incapable of putting on his own shirt without her bitchy "input", let alone piloting a 2 ton passenger vehicle. Jon Gosling (the dad from <i>Jon and Kate Plus 8</i>) turned into an equally emptied out shell of a man before our eyes from his control freak wife's constant nitpicking and abuse, with results by which we are all familiar now.greenrivervalleymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10800061625385072407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-102535536572023312009-12-09T11:55:52.494-08:002009-12-09T11:55:52.494-08:00Despite many years of successful husbandry, it was...Despite many years of successful husbandry, it was only after I began reading Roissy as well as listening to Dr. Laura that I finally was able articulate all the unconscious techniques I had been using in my own marriage into a general theory of conjugal bliss.<br /><br />All of this assumes, of course, that you are a run-of-the-mill beta good- guy (and I use that term in a completely positive sense) without any gambling or substance abuse issues, psychosises, or open vendettas from the mob, who is perfectly happy to assume the stable provider role in exchange for affection and domestic comfort from your woman. If that is the case, then the task ahead of you is relatively easy if you follow these simple rules:<br /><br />1) Keep it exciting!<br /><br />Do new things together, go to new places. If you fall into a rut (as most men, who would be happy with just a warm cave and a 52" flatscreen TV, tend to do) she will feel you are taking her for granted, as well as depriving her of the excitement she craves. Paradoxically, this also means doing things like mild flirting with other women in front of her to remind her you are still desirable and how lucky she is to have you.<br /><br />2) Be the man!<br /><br />The main stress in most marriages is that the wife is a neatness freak while the husband is your average, well-meaning slob. In my experience it makes sense to give way on many of the house rules she comes up with as they are usually sensible and improve your own enjoyment of the home. However, do not give way from a position of weakness or submission, as even if you somehow master all the little sh!t tests she throws at you (voluminous in their intricacy as the E.U. constitution), you will merely sink to (as pointed out in one of Whiskey's articles) contemptible "kitchen bitch" status in her eyes. So next time she gives you grief about where you put your socks, or how you didn't group your utensils together on the plate when you finished dinner, do not apologize, or rules lawyer back at her ("Well just this Tuesday I remember you forgot..."), but instead play the part of the alpha cad. Playfully, cuttingly (but never viciously) call her out for being the bitch she is, point out how she's ruining everyone's good time (in Roissy-talk, "reframe and shame"), and then either grab her and kiss her hard, or suggest you two drop everything and head for an impromptu weekend at the coast, or both. But in short, be the dominant male and do not apologize for the small stuff (the real mistakes you make are a different matter entirely, and again I assume you are a together-enough beta good guy not to do such relationship-killers as lose the downpayment on your next home on pharma penny stocks).<br /><br />Dr. Laura (who is now on her 2nd generation of women!) talks about how wives sabotage their marriages with this petty, neurotic stuff all the time. But short of your wife reading and living <i>Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands</i>, you will have to take matters into your own greater beta hands, which is entirely more satisfying.greenrivervalleymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10800061625385072407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60064624916728902232009-12-09T11:08:36.441-08:002009-12-09T11:08:36.441-08:00To descend for a moment into dubious logic, Lou Do...To descend for a moment into dubious logic, Lou Dobbs is married to a woman with an Hispanic name, too.<br /><br />American Jewry has a substantially lower outmarriage rate than Euro populations, yet by a wide margin they're the world heavyweight champions of open borders (inter alia). I think we might need to look beyond who they're marrying for explanations.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56438945918034983132009-12-09T10:47:48.154-08:002009-12-09T10:47:48.154-08:00Okay so you called that one. I did not RTFA either...Okay so you called that one. I did not RTFA either but I skipped to the end. Just as depressing as you might guess. <br /><br />Unless you are with one of those really dedicated to marriage groups like 'Marriage Encounter' do not try to do anything like what she did. It just messes things up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33646305536761369512009-12-09T10:34:15.622-08:002009-12-09T10:34:15.622-08:00Actually, I worry more about the guy married to th...Actually, I worry more about the guy married to this broad. He must either be a metrosexual dork who enjoys this goo goo crap or an unlucky sap going out of his mind.Middletown Girlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-35519242263866870342009-12-09T08:08:36.853-08:002009-12-09T08:08:36.853-08:00linked here from Joshua's Western Confucian lo...linked here from Joshua's Western Confucian log, where I left my 5¢ worth. <br /><br />I read the whole thing and found it edifying in that a civilized lady had the courage to share the pain she encountered in real life. The perversity being the pain helped her see what more comfortable things had not, that what she has is worth keeping (her kids may not thank her for it later, but that's their cross to bear, they should be thankful mummy and daddy are still Mr and Mrs!) <br /><br />That the religious tradition of her family of origin or her spouse's failed to give her the necessary resources should be something we are ashamed about, not something we crow about! <br /><br />She may yet find Christ's redemptive love if she comes to recognize the Bridegroom in the Song of Solomon recited on the eve of the Sabbath in devout Jewish homes at Passover. Let's hope she doesn't find this thread first and be frightened off by Christian manhood at its finest..NOT!<br /><br />Note bene ladies: NEVER marry a computer gamer until he has grown up. If you can't wait long enough for him to let the joystick loose, let him loose instead (he has forgotten he has his own two legs, he can walk to get his beer himself) and go find a real adult instead! Imaginations habituated on curiosity for the next thrill in infinite cyberspace make for poor material in discovering and overcoming the very real limitations of the finite world of the patter of tiny feet.Clare Krishannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55303222905741124902009-12-09T07:44:12.274-08:002009-12-09T07:44:12.274-08:00> My plan:
1)Make love more.
2)Criticize less....> My plan: <br />1)Make love more.<br />2)Criticize less. <<br /><br />More proof that all the good women are taken.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66934770540832319482009-12-09T07:40:03.501-08:002009-12-09T07:40:03.501-08:00> But in this critical area, marriage, we had a...> But in this critical area, marriage, we had all turned away. I wanted to understand why. I wanted not to accept this. ... So I decided to apply myself to my marriage, to work at improving ours now <<br /><br />Reading that gave me cold chills of terror.<br /><br />Fellas, pray you never, ever have a wife like this.<br /><br />H.L. Mencken said: "Whenever a husband and wife begin to discuss their marriage they are giving evidence at a coroner's inquest."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87010921817765338992009-12-09T06:24:33.121-08:002009-12-09T06:24:33.121-08:00The husband looks like he's been seriously p-w...The husband looks like he's been seriously p-whipped. If he'd been a man, he'd of told her "Desist this infernal nonsense, woman!"<br /><br />He'll end up paying a lot in alimony. And he'll deserve it for having chosen his wife poorly.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76285823458038982882009-12-09T06:22:46.179-08:002009-12-09T06:22:46.179-08:00My most successful technique for staying happily m...My most successful technique for staying happily married is to remember my marriage vows, in particular 'Honor'. My wife does annoying things, but destructive criticism is not honoring her. Maybe as a person she deserves the criticism, but as my wife and the mother of my child she has a position that itself is worthy of respect, and which I am oath-bound to honour. If I wouldn't speak like that to a co-worker or friend, I shouldn't speak like that to her.<br /><br />It's not easy, but remembering this, more than anything else, has helped me recently to avoid nagging her the way my mother nags my father. I recommend it to all spouses.Simonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52324899926261288052009-12-09T05:41:39.635-08:002009-12-09T05:41:39.635-08:00What do you mean women would never read about Yeme...What do you mean women would never read about Yemen? Sure they would, as long as it was about the people in Yemen and not the GNP or why we really need to start a war there. In fact, women would probably be more interested in an article about the People-of-Yemn than would most guys.dormousenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55721851487951046022009-12-09T05:08:12.848-08:002009-12-09T05:08:12.848-08:00agnostic,
You're supposed to be one of the br...agnostic,<br /><br />You're supposed to be one of the brighter lights in the HBD/whatever blogosphere, but you're not proving it today. The problem with the self-help industry is not that it's a financial drain on the scale of Iraq/Afghanistan, but that it gives people a distorted view of themselves and others and thus, among other things, screws up their relationships.<br /><br />No one has ever argued anything else, have they?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20525448857680163352009-12-09T04:34:10.656-08:002009-12-09T04:34:10.656-08:00If my wife says be candid, I don't have a wife...If my wife says be candid, I don't have a wife, but when I do, I will say "honey, I'm playing videos games. Please make me a sandwich and get me a beer". Our dads weren't soft, they didn't have these problems, and they were married for 50 years or death, whichever is shorter.OhioStaternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2960984342033147472009-12-09T03:03:18.199-08:002009-12-09T03:03:18.199-08:00The Sunday NYTimes is good for one thing: the cros...The Sunday NYTimes is good for one thing: the crossword puzzle. I haven't been able to read an entire article in it for over a decade.John Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88312276686404637862009-12-09T02:04:58.898-08:002009-12-09T02:04:58.898-08:00Those military costs in Iraq, are they purely fact...Those military costs in Iraq, are they purely factors related to that operation? A big percentage of the costs are otherwise things that would be paid for anyway - basic pay, fuel costs, maintainance, spare parts, food, medical services. A lot of those costs will still be incurred Iraq or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43764992949489576432009-12-09T00:44:01.462-08:002009-12-09T00:44:01.462-08:00agnostic said: "That self-help figure accoun...agnostic said: "That self-help figure accounts for 'books, CDs, seminars, coaching and stress-management programs.'<br /><br />Does that include marriage counselling and sex therapy sessions (wasn't clear to me from that Forbes article)? 'Cause that's also what this woman put her family through.<br /><br />And, what about all the other, "incidental" costs? (Like the therapy I'm now going to have to go through after reading that d*mn article? ;-) )Cordelianoreply@blogger.com