tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post332955284765966758..comments2024-03-15T20:52:26.967-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Anti-Idiocratic ImmigrationUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80630967463734587212009-09-07T17:42:59.646-07:002009-09-07T17:42:59.646-07:00Reminds me of the guy who was sitting next to me a...Reminds me of the guy who was sitting next to me at the bar at the Silver Diner this morning who said in response to a question from his wife, "Well first of all I don't believe anything I read in 'The Washington Post'". I'm thinking, really, and I guess you believe everything you hear on Beck or Limbaugh? He never made it past the sports section, so I'm not sure how he would know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19211798133218217362009-08-25T09:34:45.703-07:002009-08-25T09:34:45.703-07:00Uhm yeah, except I don't want to sign up for a...Uhm yeah, except I don't want to sign up for a Google account, T. Your blog settings are too restrictive.<br /><br />Just answer the question here, no reason Steve won't let it through if you behave yourself. No need to be long-winded, either, brevity is the soul of wit.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32361786925452834692009-08-20T11:30:59.019-07:002009-08-20T11:30:59.019-07:00Re: NE Asian geniuses and all that...
There is al...Re: NE Asian geniuses and all that...<br /><br />There is almost certainly a significant difference in NE Asian and white mean IQ. It has to be more than a few points -- (.3-.5) SD is probably right, and the difference in variance (if there is any) must be small.<br /><br />Just take a look at the Math/Physics/CS Olympiad teams of countries like the US, Canada, Australia. NE Asians are over-represented by 5-10x or so in this group, which is comprised of 1 in 10,000-level talents or better.<br /><br />(It's also amazing that a small city state like HK regularly outperforms countries like France or the UK in the math Olympiad!)<br /><br />Also note that the US SMPY (Study of Mathematically Precocious Youth) population is 20% Asian. There is also Asian over-representation in the *verbal* group -- the gifted population with high SAT verbal scores (e.g., 600-700 by age 13 or so).<br /><br />Why don't you utilize your obsession with the normal distribution to try and concoct a relative mean and variance that can explain this data? That is, if you can do the math...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57210625507825354302009-08-20T05:49:03.913-07:002009-08-20T05:49:03.913-07:00Even ashkenazi Jews are only a point or two ahead ...<i>Even ashkenazi Jews are only a point or two ahead of white Europeans on the average-IQ scale. And Asians are well within standard deviation.</i> <br /><br />East Asians are less than 5 ahead, much closer to your "point or two" characterization. Ashkenazi Jews are between 5 and ten points higher, depending on which figures you use.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71494965709639940152009-08-20T05:46:23.264-07:002009-08-20T05:46:23.264-07:00By the way, that was a thoughtful and measured res...<i>By the way, that was a thoughtful and measured response you made at the end of the Dylan thread.</i> <br /><br />Thanks. The further I get from thoughtful and measured, the redder the hackles on Komment Kontrol. :)Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74778847355820506262009-08-20T05:24:45.836-07:002009-08-20T05:24:45.836-07:00but I wrote to long and comprehensive responses to...<i>but I wrote to long and comprehensive responses to you and neither was deemed worthy.</i> <br /><br />Fair enough, I'll be along shortly. Wouldn't hurt for you to just go ahead and post your responses there, if experience has taught you, the way it has taught me, to save your thoughts before submitting them for review.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40083055157045798842009-08-20T00:39:45.863-07:002009-08-20T00:39:45.863-07:00Do whites want to be ruled by a dominant east-Asia...Do whites want to be ruled by a dominant east-Asian elite? <br /><br />Are they really that much smarter than us to make a difference?<br />Even ashkenazi Jews are only a point or two ahead of white Europeans on the average-IQ scale. And Asians are well within standard deviation.<br /><br />Simon, you make some great points. Here in South Africa there is a discernable difference between Muslim Asians and Hindu Indians.<br /><br />Islam turns everything it touches into a desert.Tim Johnstonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02470464053181422637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26816240620393067872009-08-19T15:38:52.774-07:002009-08-19T15:38:52.774-07:00By the way, that was a thoughtful and measured res...By the way, that was a thoughtful and measured response you made at the end of the Dylan thread.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53034775811405678762009-08-19T15:36:21.057-07:002009-08-19T15:36:21.057-07:00Svigor; you know that I love a good argument, and ...Svigor; you know that I love a good argument, and would be happy to respond to any questions you might have, but I wrote to long and comprehensive responses to you and neither was deemed worthy. <br /><br />If you'd like to continue the dialog, click my link and ask me whatever you want.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81443542314803641292009-08-19T11:20:27.817-07:002009-08-19T11:20:27.817-07:00"And yet it's the smarties who got fooled..."And yet it's the smarties who got fooled into believing that race is an illusion, that gender is a social construct, that their own nationalism is evil, that abstract art is art, etc., etc. In some ways, the smarter you are, the EASIER you are to fool."<br /><br />I've wondered this myself, and the only conclusion that makes sense is that their inclination (and their ability to delve into) toward abstract thought and ideological devotion to being "one of the good ones" trumps all. Even the their most basic survival instincts.Marc Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15526121114466617234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87831289878258593012009-08-19T11:15:24.217-07:002009-08-19T11:15:24.217-07:00"Looking at his list of the most trusting pla..."Looking at his list of the most trusting places, Putnam found whole states such as New Hampshire and Montana, rural areas in West Virginia and East Tennessee."<br /><br />Rural East TN, NOT urban West TN. I appreciate his very accurate specificity. <br /><br />Notice how the SWPL faction does just the opposite, moving into usually gentrified (typically first by gay males and artsy types) urban areas that are "diverse" while patting themselves on the back for going against the natural inclination to congregate amongst people like themselves in suburbs or exurbs.Marc Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15526121114466617234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42480400170319481852009-08-19T09:53:57.622-07:002009-08-19T09:53:57.622-07:00Truth is making the point that either Nader, Andy ...Truth is making the point that either Nader, Andy Rooney, William F. Buckley, Camile Paglia, Christopher Langhan, John McCain, Michael Bloomberg, and Dick Cheney are dumb and polite, or smart and rude. This is a good point or a bad point, depending on...? <br /><br />Actually, the only point is that Truth has opinions on certain famous people. Who would have thought?<br /><br />But anyway, he deserves to be complimented for having gone a whole post without calling a white person "Sport".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18871339637708281052009-08-19T07:01:41.288-07:002009-08-19T07:01:41.288-07:00Truth, you're back! I've been waiting for...Truth, you're back! I've been waiting for you.<br /><br />You probably missed where I asked you a direct question in another thread, so I'll re-post it here:<br /><br />Your ideology (forced integration of the races) creates your problem (whites complaining about blacks); why do you never address this point?<br /><br />That's just the finale, the whole conversation's here:<br /><br /><a href="http://isteve.blogspot.com/2009/08/bob-dylan-tangled-up-in-blue.html" rel="nofollow">Tangled Up in Blue</a><br /><br />And here:<br /><br /><a href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?postID=3190380660230345550&blogID=9430835&isPopup=false&page=2" rel="nofollow">I, for one, welcome our new blue-eyed overlords</a><br /><br />You're a hard guy to get 'hold of, Truth!Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12723728646318970202009-08-19T04:53:46.359-07:002009-08-19T04:53:46.359-07:00"The second link is a paper that apparently r...<i>"The second link is a paper that apparently refutes Putnam's hypothesis in a sample of 28 European countries.</i>"<br /><br />No, it doesn't. The study demonstrates that differences in ethnic diversity do not explain differences in social capital accumulation <i>between</i> EU countries. This is not surprising considering that 13 of the EU's 28 member states were under communist rule still two decades ago, and are accordingly poor and underdeveloped in comparison to the 15 old member states that were saved from the Soviet onslaught. <br /><br />However, if you studied neigborhoods <i>within</i> the EU countries, I'm pretty sure you'd find the same patterns Putnam found in the US: "diversity" destroys communities.THnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57162964944085196922009-08-18T23:47:25.752-07:002009-08-18T23:47:25.752-07:00I had a nice post about middle class Hindu Indians...I had a nice post about middle class Hindu Indians in the UK and how they display Raj-style high social capital to distinguish themselves from Pakistani Muslims, although lower class Tamil Hindus mostly don't; but it doesn't seem to have made it through.Simonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84801035786645291412009-08-18T23:42:28.057-07:002009-08-18T23:42:28.057-07:00"The supposition here is that high IQ people ..."The supposition here is that high IQ people would be and should be the rulers. Both seem very dubious propositions. Are Obama and Waxman really at the pinnicle of IQ? Do we really want to be ruled by those whose IQ's are over 140?"<br /><br />I was talking about the people who actually do rule us; as per The Bell Curve they're pretty well all top-quartile IQ. Politicians seem to mostly come in around 115-135. I wasn't talking about top 1%. We 1%ers tend to end up doing PhDs and other non-rulership activities.<br /><br />My point is that in a society that is heavily east-Asian, that top quartile from which the rulers are drawn will be mostly east-Asian, even without any discrimination effects.Simonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51290070618751962302009-08-18T21:15:51.130-07:002009-08-18T21:15:51.130-07:00Moving from engineers to lawyers ...
I nearly a...Moving from engineers to lawyers ... <br /><br />I nearly always find it pleasant talking to competent lawyers. Marginally competent ones tend to be arrogant. And the incompetent are downright unpleasant. <br /><br />Perhaps the less competent someone is, and the lower the IQ, the more they sense that they're not the top of the pecking order and they feel a corresponding impulse to assert your status?Felixnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27371968333701652732009-08-18T19:14:56.505-07:002009-08-18T19:14:56.505-07:00"Dumb means 80 IQ. Smart means 120 IQ.
Now, y..."Dumb means 80 IQ. Smart means 120 IQ.<br />Now, you can't possibly fuck that up, can you?"<br /><br />Truth, here's a one question IQ test.<br /><br />What does BFD mean when spelled out?<br /><br />Get a grip already.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71143857670822703192009-08-18T18:15:39.968-07:002009-08-18T18:15:39.968-07:00From Svigor:
"Stupid people have much, much ...From Svigor:<br /><br />"Stupid people have much, much lower standards of civility."<br /><br />Also from Svigor<br /><br />"Dumb means 80 IQ. Smart means 120 IQ.<br />Now, you can't possibly fuck that up, can you?"Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60964877906355680052009-08-18T17:56:26.773-07:002009-08-18T17:56:26.773-07:00As for the contrast with ultra-high IQ's and m...As for the contrast with ultra-high IQ's and merely HI-Q, Carolyn has a point. Terman noted increased social adaptability up to about IQ 140, at which point it started tapering off. I was president of Prometheus 20 years ago, and there were indeed an abundance of difficult people. I likened it to them being strong enough intellectually to screw something in by force even if it was cross-threaded.<br /><br />There were pleasant well-adjusted people as well and I enjoyed interacting with them. But I came away with the idea that perhaps it would be better if people with SAT 1200-1400 ran things rather than 1400-1600. The latter should be steered into research, advisory, and consulting roles.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85902258081763504962009-08-18T17:25:57.368-07:002009-08-18T17:25:57.368-07:00Are Obama and Waxman really at the pinnicle of IQ?...<i>Are Obama and Waxman really at the pinnicle of IQ</i>?<br /><br />And they really ruling?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44997268410097664822009-08-18T17:23:43.444-07:002009-08-18T17:23:43.444-07:00in terms of trust and surliness vis-a-vis IQ I thi...in terms of trust and surliness vis-a-vis IQ I think the environmental explanation has quite a bit of merit. Perhaps the environment of today's society is just fundamentally more hostile/difficult to the low IQ (especially when we are talking below 90), so these people are generally not that happy with life. Social contract has been wearing thin for everybody lately, but for the low IQ it was most serious and for the longest. In such a situation, why be cheerful?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43041562905164834382009-08-18T13:59:45.482-07:002009-08-18T13:59:45.482-07:00Islam (the fundamentalist variety being practiced)...<i>Islam (the fundamentalist variety being practiced) is such a backwards religion it really seems to drag down a society.</i> <br /><br />What's the cart, and what's the horse? Baptist fundies and Episcopalians are both Christianity, but...<br /><br />Do people choose their religion, or is it the other way around? Would smart people whose nature was contrary to fundie Islam just sit back and chafe? Or would they slowly change their religion to suit their nature?<br /><br />People make religions, so I say, in the long run, people are the horse, and religion is the cart. Religion can change a people along the way, but then, the cart changes the horse, too.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-92204267769306507402009-08-18T12:57:56.223-07:002009-08-18T12:57:56.223-07:00I'm seeing a fair number of Asian volunteers (...I'm seeing a fair number of Asian volunteers (Indian, Chinese, Korean) in my mostly white suburb.<br /><br />My organization has a roughly proportional number of Asian volunteers. One or two blacks, no Hispanics - but NAMs are so few here you can't really draw conclusions.<br /><br />It depends on the organization - PTA and rescue squad, yes, youth sports, fewer, fire dept, no.<br /><br />So arguing by anecdote - it can happen.acynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59585994594416279932009-08-18T10:54:52.872-07:002009-08-18T10:54:52.872-07:00i would think that at a certain point, jealousy of...<i>i would think that at a certain point, jealousy of the market dominant minorities would disrupt community building.</i><br /><br />Can we dispense with the 'jealousy' BS -- a lot of time the market dominant minority is that way because it consistently screws the majority over via its ethnic networks, and has no qualms about doing it.stari_momaknoreply@blogger.com