tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post335221944675800570..comments2024-03-29T05:13:20.482-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: "Disgusting, racially-tinged, Muslim-baiting, xenophobic hate-mongering"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73199693003960960012011-05-09T20:23:47.957-07:002011-05-09T20:23:47.957-07:00TGGP: Claims about crusader ancestry are probably ...TGGP: <i>Claims about crusader ancestry are probably wrong.</i><br /><br />Is that really correct? I'd always had the impression that e.g. the Maronite Catholics had some direct ancestral ties to portions of the Crusader-derived population, which was one reason France always took such a strong interest in some of the Levantine groups. Unlike the unrecorded events in ancient South Asia, I'd think there'd be a great deal of written evidence about the ancestries of these various Mid East groups, so presumably the regional specialists should know one way or the other.RKUnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64917382469384478822011-05-08T21:56:16.777-07:002011-05-08T21:56:16.777-07:00Claims about crusader ancestry are probably wrong....Claims about crusader ancestry are probably wrong. Within south asia we see genetic evidence of the Ancient North Indians, but since that's found even among south indian tribals who don't speak indo-aryan languages, it's probably not the aryans but dravidians. There's a smaller quantity of a more european derived variant particularly in the north and among brahmins, which may be from the aryans. But there's very little genetic input from muslim conquerors (despite claims among the muslims of the region of persian/turkish ancestry). Nor did the Normans have much genetic input in England. They were a tiny elite drowned out by the ocean of indigenous folks. Similarly, in Turkey there's little asian Turkish ancestry, they're mostly just Anatolian. The crusaders weren't even resident very long.TGGPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11017651009634767649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79325315917341238892011-05-08T09:26:27.567-07:002011-05-08T09:26:27.567-07:00And that was just Whiskey getting slow service at ...<i>And that was just Whiskey getting slow service at a falafel restaurant.</i><br /><br />You can't even hit an essentially stationary target. Fucking sad.Udolpho.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12976984423336975944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27115497090232591082011-05-08T09:15:29.909-07:002011-05-08T09:15:29.909-07:00Or maybe Levantine Arabs don't look the way yo...<i>Or maybe Levantine Arabs don't look the way you expect Arabs are supposed to look.<br />It's not all the same here from Mecca to Aleppo.</i><br /><br />True. Then again, some Palestinians I've seen on TV -- Hamas members, I think -- were basically mulattos. What's their story? If their origin is non-levantine wouldn't that be something worth raising in response to Palestinian nationalism?Silvernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91158261568636325642011-05-07T20:23:18.226-07:002011-05-07T20:23:18.226-07:00Like was said up in the postings, projection is a ...Like was said up in the postings, projection is a strange thing...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68155288549833442132011-05-07T17:01:21.524-07:002011-05-07T17:01:21.524-07:00btw who is the clueless guy who keeps on bringing ...btw who is the clueless guy who keeps on bringing up an orient/occident distinction? Have you never encountered italians, spanish, greeks, and portuguese? Plus the irish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85849539258981489902011-05-07T16:58:16.961-07:002011-05-07T16:58:16.961-07:00"Since only his father is Jewish, Hertzberg i...<i>"Since only his father is Jewish, Hertzberg is, sorry, not a Jew."</i><br /><br />Right... and since only Obama's father is Black, and not his mother, Obama is <i>not</i> Black, and does not identify as Black, or anti-white at all.<br /><br />Gimme a break.Thripshawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24281016996002370442011-05-07T15:21:57.140-07:002011-05-07T15:21:57.140-07:00Since only his father is Jewish, Hertzberg is, sor...Since only his father is Jewish, Hertzberg is, sorry, not a Jew.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20066069311718265462011-05-07T14:39:43.816-07:002011-05-07T14:39:43.816-07:00"'Oh yes - here it is - that would be Lew...<i>"'Oh yes - here it is - that would be Lewis Lapham'<br /><br />Unfair."</i><br /><br />Unfair to whom? Lewis Lapham? I wouldn't worry too much about that. He's the one who saw nothing unfair about publishing his criticism of the speeches at the GOP Convention in 2004 days before the event even took place.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/books/review/Senior.t.html" rel="nofollow">Lewis Doesn't Play Fair</a><br /><br />If you're protesting the unfairness of being compared to Lewis Lapham, then by all means, carry on.Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32274901040341661332011-05-07T12:41:33.006-07:002011-05-07T12:41:33.006-07:00Oh yes - here it is - that would be Lewis Lapham
...<i>Oh yes - here it is - that would be Lewis Lapham</i><br /><br />Unfair.Dennis Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03233729780363740881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71550713987798707202011-05-07T10:39:49.458-07:002011-05-07T10:39:49.458-07:00http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
We comp...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair<br /><br />We complain about Pakistan having known about and hid Osama all these yrs, but Israel government not only orchestrated the Lavon Affair but later rewarded those involved with medals. <br /><br />And the CIC recruited and provided safe transit for Klaus Barbie. <br />And Jewish Power in America protected and gave cover to Jewish communist spies(as poor saintly victim of 'McCarthyism')Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57168127777889131452011-05-07T08:51:26.222-07:002011-05-07T08:51:26.222-07:00The funny thing to me is that Larison lets Hertzbe...The funny thing to me is that Larison lets Hertzberg's remark pass, uh, unremarked. Indeed his comments seem to indicate a sort of tacit agreement -- Larison is saying 'you see, Daniels is a good guy because he is Arab-American and not a demagogue (but shame on you Hertzberg for not distinguishing Arab Christians from Arab Muslims).'<br /><br />Every commentator has his own pet causes, but its pretty sad that the Magazine founded by Take and Buchanan, one devoted to 'coming home, America', should become sort of a mirror image of the neocons -- obsessed with foreign policy, small ethnic groups in regions far away, and not particularly caring about actual Americans.stari_momaknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21262047645332973142011-05-06T23:34:17.093-07:002011-05-06T23:34:17.093-07:00I was under the impression that Hertzberg was the ...I was under the impression that Hertzberg was the editor of Harpers. I must have him confused with some other insufferable jerk.<br /><br />Oh yes - here it is - that would be Lewis LaphamMr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76468875021248310272011-05-06T23:30:12.671-07:002011-05-06T23:30:12.671-07:00I should add that Kunstler has been a vocal and ho...I should add that Kunstler has been a vocal and hostile critic of the financial sector too.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44486153741665671892011-05-06T23:27:32.495-07:002011-05-06T23:27:32.495-07:00"Anonymous said...
""all the bile ..."Anonymous said...<br /><br />""all the bile and spite of James Howard Kunstler but without the charm.""<br /><br />I did like his book Geography of Nowhere. His description of Disney World is hilarious."<br /><br />I like a lot of what Kunstler writes, especially about modern architecture and the creeping, awful, ugly, boxy sameness of it, and about the hollow woo-hoo, big-foam-finger-waving triumphalism of our bankrupt culture.<br /><br />But he clearly hates just about everyone who isn't in his little clique, especially white southerners. Ironic, given that they are more likely to weather the "World Made by Hand" scenario he posits as our inevitable future than are his liberal urban-survivalist pals.<br /><br />Also his whole The-End-is-Nigh schtick wears a little thin after a dozen years or so.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87924429684224182542011-05-06T22:52:45.684-07:002011-05-06T22:52:45.684-07:00You can practically feel the spittle on your face ...You can practically <i>feel</i> the spittle on your face when reading Mr. Hertzberg.Dennis Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03233729780363740881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87346467136442479962011-05-06T21:52:42.410-07:002011-05-06T21:52:42.410-07:00I've noticed that about half of all part-Jews ...I've noticed that about half of all part-Jews tend to be well-balanced and reasonable people. The other half tend to be dogmatic PC fanatics to an exceptional degree. There is no in-between. Wise and Hertzberg are perhaps examples of what happens when white gentile SWPLism meets chosenness and where the two tendencies pathologically synergize rather than cancel each other out.tommynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51390731234462735302011-05-06T21:40:18.095-07:002011-05-06T21:40:18.095-07:00For the record, "Hertzberg" is not a &qu...<i>For the record, "Hertzberg" is not a "Jewish name", it is rather a German name. The only authentically Ashkenazi Jewish surnames are (Cohen/Cohn) and (Levy/Levi). Most of the other names that pass as Jewish are usually just combinations of German words. For a German, it is amusing how often in the United States names that are so utterly German are described as "Jewish". How often are surnames like "Washington" and "Jefferson" described as African-American names?</i><br /><br />That may be true but, for the record, Hertzberg disagrees with you. <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/ask/2010/04/questions-for-hertzberg.html" rel="nofollow">He insists his name is Jewish</a>:<br /><br /><i>QUESTION FROM ROLAND: What religious orientation are you Hendrik? Your name sounds Jewish, but don’t want to assume and offend.<br /><br />HENDRIK HERTZBERG: Why should there be any question of offending? My name is indeed Jewish (the Hertzberg part, not the Hendrik). My father’s parents were Jewish, so I guess he was too, though he was a pretty militant atheist. My mother was a Quaker from a long line of Congregationalists.</i>tommynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1788226216664941132011-05-06T19:40:47.498-07:002011-05-06T19:40:47.498-07:00Yes. I think that's it. We're odd, and thi...<i>Yes. I think that's it. We're odd, and thinking everyone else is the same as us makes us blind.</i> <br /><br />Right - Freudian <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_projection" rel="nofollow">projection</a> is, or ought to be, a double-edged sword: Just as it is a mistake to assume in others your own baser instincts, so too is it a mistake to assume that they share the nobler aspects of your character.<br /><br />BTW, all of this stuff was just tautologically obvious to our ancestors - e.g. Lewis & Clark made it clear that some of the injun tribes they encountered were amongst the nicest people on the face of the earth, whilst other injun tribes would slit a man's throat just for the fun of it - and so it's a real testament to the work of Gramsci & the Frankfurt School that the general public has swallowed this poison of political correctness & multiculturalism which makes it impossible for them to speak sensibly [or even to speak at all] about these things.<br /><br />[Which I guess is why we're all here at iSteve...]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28717382110267571732011-05-06T18:44:56.939-07:002011-05-06T18:44:56.939-07:00>Levant Christians do tend to be different from...>Levant Christians do tend to be different from your regular camel trader.<br /><br />Hilaire Belloc thought the Crusades failed because the Franks failed to support the 'Colts' or sons of Franks and Greek refugees from the Turks. No doubt some Christian arabs are descendents of the 'colts': half medeival French, half Asia Minor Greek.<br /><br />Why scare quotes for 'colts'? Because Hilaire Belloc thought it was an ethnic slur, and old Hilaire wasn't fussy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4804808551302354202011-05-06T18:08:22.921-07:002011-05-06T18:08:22.921-07:00"Exactly - we make a huge mistake when we ass..."Exactly - we make a huge mistake when we assume that everyone [or even anyone] else suffers from the same "Marquis of Queensbury"/"All men yearn for freedom" naivete & gullibility that we do."<br /><br />Yes. I think that's it. We're odd, and thinking everyone else is the same as us makes us blind.Wandrinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23013011971153041362011-05-06T18:06:35.589-07:002011-05-06T18:06:35.589-07:00For the record, "Hertzberg" is not a &qu...For the record, "Hertzberg" is not a "Jewish name", it is rather a German name. The only authentically Ashkenazi Jewish surnames are (Cohen/Cohn) and (Levy/Levi). Most of the other names that pass as Jewish are usually just combinations of German words. For a German, it is amusing how often in the United States names that are so utterly German are described as "Jewish". How often are surnames like "Washington" and "Jefferson" described as African-American names?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19573485857791131382011-05-06T17:41:17.715-07:002011-05-06T17:41:17.715-07:00white societies become rich because they are less ...<i>white societies become rich because they are less clannish but that only works if clannish outsiders are kept out.</i> <br /><br />Exactly - we make a huge mistake when we assume that everyone [or even <i>anyone</i>] else suffers from the same "Marquis of Queensbury"/"All men yearn for freedom" naivete & gullibility that we do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2164757650196448222011-05-06T15:46:27.854-07:002011-05-06T15:46:27.854-07:00"all the bile and spite of James Howard Kunst..."all the bile and spite of James Howard Kunstler but without the charm.'<br /><br />I did like his book Geography of Nowhere. His description of Disney World is hilarious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63562399378169773162011-05-06T14:50:08.731-07:002011-05-06T14:50:08.731-07:00I am acquainted with a number of Lebanese and Pale...<i>I am acquainted with a number of Lebanese and Palestinian Christians whose names and physical appearances (fair-skinned, black-haired, hazel-eyed) suggest at least some Frankish descent.</i><br /><br />Or maybe Levantine Arabs don't look the way you expect Arabs are supposed to look.<br />It's not all the same here from Mecca to Aleppo.IHTGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13543091238926738309noreply@blogger.com