tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post3537436181509941938..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Diversity before Diversity: Ballerina Maria TallchiefUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47869509817504819462012-07-06T19:44:20.898-07:002012-07-06T19:44:20.898-07:00I'm strictly a rock player myself, but my gran...I'm strictly a rock player myself, but my grandfather and father both studied under (inventor of classical guitar, and a father again at 80) Segovia, and my father under Narciso Yepes as well, so both knew a great deal about classical and flamenco guitar. Neither considered Charo more than a moderately talented amateur who happened to have married Xavier Cugat and to have big breasts.<br /><br /> My father actually sold Charo a guitar and did work on it to fit it for her style of play, and spent several hours with her. Said she was nice, and intelligent, but simply not a great player. <br /><br /> Both he and Grandpa were firmly of the belief that it was easier to teach women than men to play guitar, or any other instrument, to talented amateur status but that no woman ever truly attained the highest ranks of virtuosi, and few could be really good working classical musicians. My father was also a symphony grade violist and cellist, good enough to have turned down a viola spot with the Cleveland Orchestra under Szell, so I took this opinion seriously. <br /><br /> I was a Civil Air Patrol leader and taught Morse code as part of Amateur radio classes we offered. We saw this same phenomenon. Female students always outperformed the males at up to 20 words per minute but those who got really fast were the males. Few of the girls could copy better than 25 wpm and even with the Vibroplex bug could not send that fast. I had several boys who could copy 35-40 wpm and send 30+.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86075095394904281782012-07-05T20:40:55.170-07:002012-07-05T20:40:55.170-07:00Ely Parker, civil engineer, first Native American ...Ely Parker, civil engineer, first Native American to reach the rank of Brigadier General, and Grant's personal aide-de-camp during the Civil War. Wrote the terms of surrender document signed by Robert E. Lee at Appomatox Courthouse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20876317102899778542012-07-04T07:15:50.073-07:002012-07-04T07:15:50.073-07:00Hapalong Cassidy said... One thing I've notice...<i>Hapalong Cassidy said... One thing I've noticed among the White Nationalist types is that when it comes to race-mixing, having part-Native American blood seems to be the least of all evils.</i><br /><br />An interesting example of this was WN <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asa_Carter" rel="nofollow">Asa Earl Carter</a> (1925-1979). He founded a chapter of the KKK, published a pro-segregation monthly, "The Southerner," and wrote speeches for George Wallace. He is responsible for Wallace's line, "Segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever!"<br /><br />Disillusioned with Wallace as he became increasingly moderate, Carter dropped out of sight. He lost some weight, got a tan, grew a mustache and emerged a few years later as Forrest Carter, author of an autobiographical book, "The Education of Little Tree," about his upbringing by his Cherokee grandfather. Carter actually was part Cherokee, though the book was a literary hoax. It was a bestseller and remains part of the multicultural curriculum, despite Carter's background. (Guess there's a shortage of acceptable autobiographies by actual Indians.)<br /><br />A friend of Carter explained the seeming contradiction of his being pro-White and pro-Indian by pointing out that Southerners felt they got screwed by the federal government just like the Indians.<br /><br />Carter also wrote the bestseller "The Outlaw Josey Wales," which was made into one to the better Clint Eastwood movies. It is distinctly anti-Federal.<br /><br />NPR recently covered his <a href="http://www.npr.org/2012/04/20/151037079/the-artful-reinvention-of-klansman-asa-earl-carter" rel="nofollow">story.</a>Harry Baldwinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60426181708665373122012-07-04T05:38:17.469-07:002012-07-04T05:38:17.469-07:00RKU, not sure I agree that the Southern Amerinds w...RKU, not sure I agree that the Southern Amerinds were necessarily mire intelligent than their northern cousins. It may be that they were able to develop civilization first because they lived in a climate more conducive to agriculture. The same reason applies as to why Middle-Easterners were able to develop civilization much sooner than the higher-IQ Europeans.Hapalong Cassidynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-35406666692237197662012-07-03T19:43:10.534-07:002012-07-03T19:43:10.534-07:00"you have actually never taken a good look at..."you have actually never taken a good look at the legs of ballernias, have you sweetheart?"<br /><br />- Too busy with the other bits...Sarannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54529137401069853512012-07-03T19:41:31.103-07:002012-07-03T19:41:31.103-07:00"Native-Americans are pretty much forgotten t..."Native-Americans are pretty much forgotten today..."<br /><br />- Except by our benevolent government who never forgets (or better yet, never remembers the actual facts) and bestows bountiful benefits upon those with a mere fraction (even a fictional fraction) of native American blood.Reginaldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44353387042426950832012-07-03T19:36:58.260-07:002012-07-03T19:36:58.260-07:00:Estimates vary, but the population of the Amerind...:Estimates vary, but the population of the Amerindians may have plunged somewhere between 60% to 90% soon after European settlement in North America due to diseases they weren't adapted to. The survivors may have been the better ones - healthier, stronger and possibly smarter. This may have even equalized the average Amerindian IQ with the average European settler IQ."<br /><br />- Where is the evidence for the last sentence? The average native American descendant today has a significantly lower IQ than the average European descendant. One could quibble about some points about whether descent reflects the forefathers (though it does provide us some evidence), but even more damning is that there has never been any evidence of native Americans keeping up with Europeans in advancements per capita, etc, nor have they been able to maintain civilizations equal or superior to European civilizations.Quarrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33489188712283249762012-07-03T18:22:59.147-07:002012-07-03T18:22:59.147-07:00Jared Taylor's publication is always denouncin...<i>Jared Taylor's publication is always denouncing Mestizo immigrants, but back a few years ago had a long and seemingly sincere cover-story about American Indians, which was extremely favorable.....when we consider that the Southern Amerinds had huge, complex civilizations while the Northern Amerinds were mostly ignorant wild tribes, without a written language and living as hunter-gatherers, it's pretty clear in which direction any ability-difference might point.</i><br /><br /><br />Proves that they are not coming from an intellectually honest place.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13718335268741185542012-07-03T18:20:19.900-07:002012-07-03T18:20:19.900-07:00Hapalong Cassidy: One thing I've noticed among...<i>Hapalong Cassidy: One thing I've noticed among the White Nationalist types is that when it comes to race-mixing, having part-Native American blood seems to be the least of all evils. And it has to be North American Indian, not those Mesoamericans that contribute to such a large part of Hispanic DNA.</i><br /><br />My guess is simple numbers. North American Indians don't pose a threat to European dominance of the United States in the same way Latin American mestizos, or even blacks, do. Mexico alone pumps out more babies every year than all of white American (2.6 million vs. 2.1 million). And the black population, even if it won't catch up with us in numbers anytime soon (barring massive immigration from Sub-Saharan Africa), is large enough to turn us into a bunch of mediocre mulattos if large-scale mixing occurred, like the Brazilians and North Africans of today.<br /><br /><i>This seems rather akin to de Tocquville's observation that American society was both better than Europe (the average American being better than the average European)and more mediocre (the American elite being less accomplished than the European).</i><br /><br />So... 19th-century Americans were the East Asians of their time. Makes sense.corvinusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24089916530562228002012-07-03T16:01:52.202-07:002012-07-03T16:01:52.202-07:00dearieme:"On second thoughts, they were proba...dearieme:"On second thoughts, they were probably more mediocre than the folks left at home. The clever would stay at home because they'd flourish even in the very competitive society. The dim wouldn't budge. So it would be the intellectually mediocre who'd move, hoping to find opportunities that they weren't able enough to compete successfully for at home."<br /><br />An interesting point. following this logic, colonial society in English North America would have been both smarter (on a per capita basis) than England itself, but also less brilliant (as the top minds would, for the most part, have stayed home).This seems rather akin to de Tocquville's observation that American society was both better than Europe (the average American being better than the average European)and more mediocre (the American elite being less accomplished than the European).<br /><br />SyonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63004416527251619962012-07-03T15:03:06.858-07:002012-07-03T15:03:06.858-07:00North Americans Indians are a lot better looking t...North Americans Indians are a lot better looking than Central American Indians.ATBOTLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36160936334652374942012-07-03T14:16:03.650-07:002012-07-03T14:16:03.650-07:00The point is few normal men actually would attend ...<i> The point is few normal men actually would attend a ballet if he weren't trying to please a woman.</i><br />watch the red shoes - (worth it alone for the ass shot of Moiri Shearer) - dancers were HOT back then, not anorexic bois - ballenchine helped create as a standard.<br /><br />in fact in the 19th century the main patrons of the paris opera ballet were men who would often take the young girls as lovers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67755160907028212202012-07-03T13:27:16.512-07:002012-07-03T13:27:16.512-07:00The point is few normal men actually would attend ...<i> The point is few normal men actually would attend a ballet if he weren't trying to please a woman.</i><br />you have actually never taken a good look at the legs of ballernias, have you sweetheart?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67680366913158116772012-07-03T12:35:13.901-07:002012-07-03T12:35:13.901-07:00Hapalong Cassidy: One thing I've noticed among...Hapalong Cassidy: <i>One thing I've noticed among the White Nationalist types is that when it comes to race-mixing, having part-Native American blood seems to be the least of all evils. And it has to be North American Indian, not those Mesoamericans that contribute to such a large part of Hispanic DNA.</i><br /><br />Yes, I've noticed the same thing, which is a little strange. For example, Jared Taylor's publication is always denouncing Mestizo immigrants, but back a few years ago had a long and seemingly sincere cover-story about American Indians, which was extremely favorable, though it did mention their problems with alcoholism. From a racialist perspective, the whole thing is as odd as claiming that Chinese people are horribly disgusting while praising the Han Race as one of the best in the world.<br /><br />Also, when we consider that the Southern Amerinds had huge, complex civilizations while the Northern Amerinds were mostly ignorant wild tribes, without a written language and living as hunter-gatherers, it's pretty clear in which direction any ability-difference might point.RKUnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20326324714972197052012-07-03T12:31:55.699-07:002012-07-03T12:31:55.699-07:00"She married her choreographer George Ballanc...<i>"She married her choreographer George Ballanchine in 1946."<br /><br />Wasn't Ballachine a fruit?<br /><br />He had six wives, so possibly he was faking it all the way, or was bisexual, but really, <br />six wives is above & beyond the call of duty for staying in the closet!</i><br /><br />Russians as a whole seem to be more feminine in certain ways. Not in fighting or brute strength, obviously, but you do have straight Russian men in things like ballet and figure skating. Also, they seem more conformist to authority, unlike, say, the gov't can go to hell Scotch-Irish. They're sort of like white versions of East Asians.corvinusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74821436070576279682012-07-03T11:58:20.129-07:002012-07-03T11:58:20.129-07:00@ Albertosaurus 9:30 a.m.:
You were 19 in 1961? I...@ Albertosaurus 9:30 a.m.:<br /><br />You were 19 in 1961? I would not have guessed that.<br /><br />I don't entirely disagree with your point about the relative merits of ballet & opera, but let us not forget *The Firebird*, *Petrushka*, *The Rite of Spring*, *Romeo & Juliet* and *Cinderella*.<br /><br />One could argue that ballet was only beginning to come into its own at the very time when opera was dying.Vinteuilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27702247175372886122012-07-03T11:35:22.345-07:002012-07-03T11:35:22.345-07:00Johnny Damon looks like he is part Indian, plus he...Johnny Damon looks like he is part Indian, plus he's from western Missouri...he's a pretty good athlete, or was before he got old.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23337270190895065262012-07-03T11:06:36.583-07:002012-07-03T11:06:36.583-07:00' "The IQ of European settlers in colonia...' "The IQ of European settlers in colonial America was probably much higher than the IQ of Europeans back home": no, probably lower. People who couldn't hack it in a highly competitive society where every niche had to be competed for would naturally move away to where there was less competition.'<br /><br />- Dearime, there's a reason why we get the PhDs of Kazakhstan here in the US and not the goat herders. Then, like now, those with the talent, means and tenacity to eke out a better life elsewhere are the ones who do so. Perhaps even more then than now, as the barriers to doing so, such as expense of travel, maintaining ties to family, etc. are much smaller now.<br /><br />That being said, if the distance is small and foot travel is possible, there can be some truth to what you say, but that wouldn't apply for colonial travelers arriving by boat.Soupienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41944967842697025002012-07-03T10:40:52.649-07:002012-07-03T10:40:52.649-07:00dearieme:"no, probably lower. People who coul...dearieme:"no, probably lower. People who couldn't hack it in a highly competitive society where every niche had to be competed for would naturally move away to where there was less competition."<br /><br />MMM...Possibly true in, say, the Chesapeake, where a high proportion of colonists were from the lower levels of English society, but most definitely not true in New England, whose settlers were largely of the middling ranks and was the most literate society on Earth in the 17th century. I would bet good money that that the people who settled the Massachusetts Bay Colony had average IQs that were above the the English mean (cf David Hackett Fischer's ALBION'S SEED, which has a highly detailed account of the social origins and educational levels of the people who settled the colonial USA).<br /><br />SyonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86382640202727573472012-07-03T10:10:02.809-07:002012-07-03T10:10:02.809-07:00"The IQ of European settlers in colonial Amer..."The IQ of European settlers in colonial America was probably much higher than the IQ of Europeans back home": probably wrong. On second thoughts, they were probably more mediocre than the folks left at home. The clever would stay at home because they'd flourish even in the very competitive society. The dim wouldn't budge. So it would be the intellectually mediocre who'd move, hoping to find opportunities that they weren't able enough to compete successfully for at home.<br /><br />That was for free immigrants: the prisoners who were transported to the North American colonies would probably include a disproportionately high fraction of the dim.deariemenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24649804851247749192012-07-03T10:05:10.194-07:002012-07-03T10:05:10.194-07:00"The IQ of European settlers in colonial Amer..."The IQ of European settlers in colonial America was probably much higher than the IQ of Europeans back home": no, probably lower. People who couldn't hack it in a highly competitive society where every niche had to be competed for would naturally move away to where there was less competition.deariemenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56840424426938536072012-07-03T09:30:57.336-07:002012-07-03T09:30:57.336-07:00Ballet is a lousy art form. Opera is a great art f...Ballet is a lousy art form. Opera is a great art form. There never has been a great American Indian opera singer.<br /><br />Associating Indians with ballet doesn't make me impressed with Indians.<br /><br />Opera is great obviously because of the music. The best composers were drawn to opera. Mozart was the best composer of Italian opera until the nineteenth century. Mozart was a natural. He had written operas since he was nine. Beethoven wasn't. He couldn't get Fidelio quite right but he kept trying over and over... Add in Wagner , Puccini, and Verdi and you have a list of the indisputably best musicians of all time on this planet. Japan is nuts over opera. China will be soon.<br /><br />But ballet is filled with schlock music. Adam and Delibes, the best of the ballet composers, were at best only second rate opera composers. The only really good ballet music is from Tchaikovsky.<br /><br />Consider the ballet sequences in the the Triumphal Scene in <i>Aida</i> or the "Dance of the Hours" in <i>Gioconda</i>. The lesson is that opera composers can write ballet but ballet composers can't write opera.<br /><br />I used to go to ballets because girls liked it. At nineteen I got Terry A*** - the best looking girl at George Mason - to go out with me to see the Leningrad Kirov. That night Rudolph Nureyev fell right on his ass. That was a great moment in ballet. He defected the next day.<br /><br />I also saw Fernando Bujones dance. I can't remember which girl I was trying to impress that time. The point is few normal men actually would attend a ballet if he weren't trying to please a woman.<br /><br />In contrast over the years I have many times sneaked into operas without a ticket. I have climbed over chain link fences and hidden from the ushers in the bath room. Such behavior is quite common among opera fans.<br /><br />Opera versus ballet? Hyperion to a satyr.<br /><br />AlbertosaurusPat Boylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13477950851915567863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80868430836863154502012-07-03T09:30:38.463-07:002012-07-03T09:30:38.463-07:00RE: Charo,
She doesn't count as "diverse...RE: Charo,<br /><br />She doesn't count as "diverse" (i.e., non-White).She was Spanish, born in Murcia. So, she was White, no Amerind blood.<br /><br />SyonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37568052360741930822012-07-03T09:10:49.896-07:002012-07-03T09:10:49.896-07:00"I think you're being fooled by the b/w p..."I think you're being fooled by the b/w photo. "<br /><br />Everybody kind of looks alike in old glamor photos -- there was a style of the time and women were made up and lit to reflect it.<br /><br />As the commenter says, recent pictures of Tallchief as an octogenarian show her looking part white, part Indian.Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64433121906754374682012-07-03T09:08:11.532-07:002012-07-03T09:08:11.532-07:00"jacob ellsbury"
Right, when the Red So..."jacob ellsbury"<br /><br />Right, when the Red Sox centerfielder, who is Navajo on his mother's side, is healthy, he's an exciting ballplayer. He was runner-up last year in AL mvp voting.Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.com