tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post3651907960303542448..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Supreme Court to take up affirmative action againUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31381523277164508902012-02-24T10:41:05.585-08:002012-02-24T10:41:05.585-08:00One further note about the local mini-chain hot do...One further note about the local mini-chain hot dog restaurant called Top Dog (aside from the fact that their food is really good) - the owner is indeed a sort of crackpot libertarian, and will let you buy your meal at 1965 (or maybe 1963?) prices, if you pay with pre-1965 (or -1963) coins.Fellow Traveler in Berkeleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68406897068279250112012-02-23T15:22:35.089-08:002012-02-23T15:22:35.089-08:00"The left is mighty worried. Heh."
I..."The left is mighty worried. Heh."<br /><br />I'm not so sure about that. I think that part of "the Left" which provides the campaign funding intend to throw black people under the bus when they have enough asians and hispanics which isn't that far off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7616129719934479922012-02-23T13:52:41.584-08:002012-02-23T13:52:41.584-08:00Otis McWrong,
Didn't you see Steve's post...Otis McWrong,<br /><br />Didn't you see Steve's post on Brazilians? You can claim you're hispanic, and no one, legally, can call you on it.<br /><br />http://isteve.blogspot.com/2012/02/are-brazilians-latinos.htmlGeoff Matthewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07335872605196107867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86286629184517759702012-02-23T13:37:01.902-08:002012-02-23T13:37:01.902-08:00"white men have benefiited form affirnative a..."white men have benefiited form affirnative action for 500 years"<br /><br />But white folks built all the good stuff that everyone wants. If white folks hadn't existed, there wouldn't be modern colleges, cars, airplanes, medicine, chemistry, etc. <br />So, if whites favored whites in the past, it was in areas that they invented and built up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55505668416871372232012-02-23T13:35:07.327-08:002012-02-23T13:35:07.327-08:00"Completely serious question here - what is s..."Completely serious question here - what is stop a white kid from just declaring himself black on application? I may have just found a way to get my kid into Stanford!"<br /><br />But just in case.. give him an afro.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60030963237704210922012-02-23T11:07:33.366-08:002012-02-23T11:07:33.366-08:00Completely serious question here - what is stop a ...Completely serious question here - what is stop a white kid from just declaring himself black on application? He may run into a thicket for schools that require an interview, but it seems like it would be easy to do and to defend. He could always just claim he had a grandmother that was 1/8 black or whatever. <br /><br />I may have just found a way to get my kid into Stanford!Otis McWrongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18531734844087007182012-02-23T10:44:15.008-08:002012-02-23T10:44:15.008-08:00"Query: is it possible that non-Jewish whites...<i>"Query: is it possible that non-Jewish whites are now more poorly represented at Harvard (relative to their share of the population) than blacks or Hispanics?"</i><br /><br />http://inductivist.blogspot.com/2011/12/characteristics-of-smart-people-who.html<br /><br />"In the comments section of the last post, reader SFG wonders about the characteristics of people who are smart but who do not go to college. <br /><br />....<br /><br />I'll attempt to list factors from most powerful to least: older, white, being surveyed in earlier years, female, having an educated father, going to church less often, and having fewer children. <br /><br />Older people from earlier cohorts were less likely to go to college, even if they were intelligent. The same for women. Blacks are much less likely to be bright people who fail to attend college. Having a successful father can sometimes open a good career path that requires no higher education. Perhaps irreligiosity indicates unconventionality."<br /><br />Be interesting to see if Judaism were another variable to add.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71304516366889131562012-02-23T08:30:15.482-08:002012-02-23T08:30:15.482-08:00Given the collapse of the birth rate in the black ...<i>Given the collapse of the birth rate in the black middle class they're going to become even rarer and more luxurious soon. 1994 was the seminal year, so the crunch should be starting right about now.</i> <br /><br /><br />Do you have any links with hard stats?<br /><br />I have noticed this sort of thing anecdotally in my life [the smart* black chicks NEVER seem to have babies], and <a href="http://www.bible-researcher.com/murray1.html#note44" rel="nofollow">Murray's infamous Footnote #44</a> provides some more fodder, but I've never seen any lengthier analysis.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />*One time when Walter Williams was guest-hosting the Rush Limbaugh show, his only child called in to talk to him, and she sounded like a really fun, with-it chick, but, as best I can tell, she is now <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_E._Williams#Personal_life" rel="nofollow">about 37 years old</a>, single, and has no children.<br /><br />Which means that Walter Williams's line is about to go extinct...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46978708745077141852012-02-23T08:17:49.422-08:002012-02-23T08:17:49.422-08:00white men have benefiited form affirnative action ...white men have benefiited form affirnative action for 500 years<br /><br />you guys need to read leonard pittsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84423556593441888962012-02-23T06:18:47.382-08:002012-02-23T06:18:47.382-08:00"Personally I don't give a crap what the ..."Personally I don't give a crap what the admissions policies of Amherst, Harvard, or Stanford are. As private schools they should be perfectly free to discriminate in any way that they like."<br /><br />Private? Ha! Ha! <br />I'll give A/H/S their privacy to admit whoever they darn well please, pricisely 2 seconds AFTER they stop holding their hands out for federal grant money.JSMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19999265097172217482012-02-23T05:53:03.942-08:002012-02-23T05:53:03.942-08:00>I believe that's the nicest thing anyone h...>I believe that's the nicest thing anyone has ever said about me here.<<br /><br />He probably thought you were dead. Stop saving it all for your own blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17060989156414864982012-02-23T05:33:16.775-08:002012-02-23T05:33:16.775-08:00>Bright kids have no interest in homogeneity. T...>Bright kids have no interest in homogeneity. They find it creepy.<<br /><br />I hate to go there, but doesn't "bright" often seem to be used as a synonym for "Jewish" these days? The above would be an example of this. I'm a white gentile who (years ago) did my undergrad work at a 90%+ white university - and it never occurred to me that I was in a "creepy" place.<br /><br />Parts of KMac seem increasingly less like a just-so screed: for example, his contention that Jews are far more comfortable among a mix of races in which gentile whites are absolutely minimized (aka "diversity"), everyone else's ideas of comfort be damned.<br /><br />Creepy? That version of what's creepy is what's creepy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23683210296721546082012-02-23T05:29:57.392-08:002012-02-23T05:29:57.392-08:00I remarked to another customer, an Asian student, ...<i>I remarked to another customer, an Asian student, how incongruous it was, and the suasage-slicer on duty threw me out. This is a place where the owner scatters libertarian magazines around.</i> <br /><br /><br />Based on the libertarian web sites I've seen on the net (Volokh being one of them) libertarians are not very well disposed towards people expressing views they don't care to hear.<br /><br />"Hit and Run" at Reason is the only libertarian web site which (a) even allows any comments in the first place and (b) allows a wide range of comments, including ones critical of libertarianism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85737401953059684102012-02-23T03:42:05.493-08:002012-02-23T03:42:05.493-08:00If you have an IQ of 150 and have great knowledge ...<em>If you have an IQ of 150 and have great knowledge of intellectual stuff, would you rather hang with a really smart Asian-Indian or Jewish-American or Turkish guy or with dumb white trash with ass tattoo who don't know shit about nuttin?"</em><br /><br />When it's that extreme, sure. But would a 150-IQ white rather hang with a 150-IQ "Turkish guy" or a 125-IQ white guy who shares the same general culture and background? The white guy might not be his intellectual equal, but he's smart enough to carry on a conversation about most things, and the shared culture means they'll have more things to have a conversation <em>about</em>. If you're that smart, you've spent your entire life living and socializing with people well below your congnitive level. You may get a charge out of working or studying with equally smart people, but odds are you'll be perfectly comfortable with a roommate who's only "kinda smart."<br /><br />That doesn't really apply to the question here anyway, because ending race-based preferences wouldn't keep them from admitting 150-IQ NAMs, after all. They'd qualify under any system. He didn't say the bright kids wanted other bright kids around, and bright kids are so rare that they have to find them in all cultures and nations. He just said, flat out, that bright kids want people around who are different, so the colleges need the freedom to bring in <em>less</em> bright NAMs to satisfy that desire for diversity. <br /><br />That smart people crave diversity is probably the most untrue thing I've heard this week. They may be able to <em>handle</em> it better -- as you say, diversity at the upper levels of income or IQ doesn't mean violence and competition for jobs the way it does at lower levels. But do smart people <em>crave</em> diversity? Absolutely not.Aaron B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15629153841120627618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78087029834850439262012-02-23T03:20:21.324-08:002012-02-23T03:20:21.324-08:00The best thing about affirmative action lawsuits i...The best thing about affirmative action lawsuits is that is puts liberals in the position of having to defend discrimination, racism, and bigotry. <br /><br />AA lawsuits make it very hard to liberals to show concern about equality when they are forced to argue the position that the federal government has a compelling interest in discriminating.guest007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66294375920031513912012-02-23T02:54:18.319-08:002012-02-23T02:54:18.319-08:00The best thing about affirmative action lawsuits i...The best thing about affirmative action lawsuits is that is puts liberals in the position of having to defend discrimination, racism, and bigotry. <br /><br />AA lawsuits make it very hard to liberals to show concern about equality when they are forced to argue the position that the federal government has a compelling interest in discriminating.guest007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24987439447098469722012-02-22T23:55:31.381-08:002012-02-22T23:55:31.381-08:00"That's illegal, in case you were wonderi...<b>"That's illegal, in case you were wondering."</b><br /><br />Throwing a customer out? I don't think so. Owners and managers have pretty broad leeway in who they choose to serve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77395629272039972942012-02-22T23:46:54.020-08:002012-02-22T23:46:54.020-08:00Query: is it possible that non-Jewish whites are n...Query: is it possible that non-Jewish whites are now more poorly represented at Harvard (relative to their share of the population) than blacks or Hispanics? <br /><br />It would be interesting to know.<br /><br />Personally I don't give a crap what the admissions policies of Amherst, Harvard, or Stanford are. As private schools they should be perfectly free to discriminate in any way that they like.<br /><br />And Kennedy seems to have been moving right over the years, especially since the like-minded O'Connor resigned. I would guess there's probably 5 votes against AA already.Matthewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13026344161780937282012-02-22T22:27:07.619-08:002012-02-22T22:27:07.619-08:00There will always be affirmative action in the aca...There will always be affirmative action in the academy. Without it, there would be so few blacks and Hispanics in selective colleges and the well-paid prestigious professions that they will riot in the streets. <br /><br />We will just disguise the process better. Some years ago, post-Bakke, I was on the faculty of the professional school of a highly liberal university. With quotas banned, there was a separate sub-panel of the Admissions Committee which basically evaluated NAM's. The end result was that the entering classes have a racial mix about the same as pre-Bakke.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20675604712055976082012-02-22T21:48:29.079-08:002012-02-22T21:48:29.079-08:00I remarked to another customer, an Asian student, ...<i>I remarked to another customer, an Asian student, how incongruous it was, and the suasage-slicer on duty threw me out. This is a place where the owner scatters libertarian magazines around.</i><br /><br />That's illegal, in case you were wondering.ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20960792018342333692012-02-22T21:03:15.285-08:002012-02-22T21:03:15.285-08:00“Nine years, when you’re talking about a decision ...<i>“Nine years, when you’re talking about a decision of this magnitude, it really took me aback,” said Tom Parker, the dean of admissions at Amherst College. “What happens with the next president, the next Supreme Court appointee? Do we revisit it again, so that higher education is zigging and zagging? If the court says that any consideration of race whatsoever is prohibited, then we’re in a real pickle. Bright kids have no interest in homogeneity. They find it creepy.”</i><br /><br />Bright = "able to juggle the contradictions the Masters of the Universe force on you," I suppose. Take "diversity." The vast majority of the planet fails Fails FAILS the "diversity" test. China, India, Japan, sub-Saharan Africa... they're quite homogenous, and their "diversity" is far too subtle to satisfy the Cult of Diversity. Very few places can satisfy the non-"creepy" criterion this fellow is describing. But calling vast swathes of the planet (all characterized primarily by their not-Whiteness) "creepy" is raciss, right? How can the Anglosphere be the height of not-creepiness? That would be raciss!<br /><br />Obviously "diversity" doesn't mean "diversity" here, it means "not-Whiteness," but we're talking <i>law</i>. Under the law, "diversity" is supposed to mean "diversity."Svigorhttp://svigor.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90059659248986851442012-02-22T20:42:59.477-08:002012-02-22T20:42:59.477-08:00@affirmative gumption
"Just like war looks d...@affirmative gumption<br /><br />"Just like war looks different to the generals perched on high above, diversity looks different from the vantage point of elites."<br /><br />This was my favorite line, but your entire post sums it up.Marc Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15526121114466617234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50474730975816442342012-02-22T19:58:10.880-08:002012-02-22T19:58:10.880-08:00Let me add I don't think I've ever seen a ...Let me add I don't think I've ever seen a more wise comment than Dennis Dale's on the culture affect of Noble Lie Black Lady judges.<br /><br />He's just spot on. Which was why the change will not come legally, just like Segregation was not killed by Homer Plessy (a decent and courageous man who bet on the legal system and lost) but by the uber-political campaigner King, who studied Wayne B. Wheeler's campaign for Prohibition. Change comes from culture first, and that means TV mostly and movies secondarily.<br /><br />Though e-books cheap and fast have a shot at moving the culture.Whiskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80456999633738385592012-02-22T19:53:43.828-08:002012-02-22T19:53:43.828-08:00Actually, Steve, that's more evidence like you...Actually, Steve, that's more evidence like your famous analysis of "Susan researched this" commercial for Countrywide or whoever, complete with granite counters, of a bubble in higher ed. Glenn Reynolds has been predicting this for years. MIT has the <a href="http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/mitx-faq-1219.html" rel="nofollow">MIT X</a> online education forum ... WITH CERTIFICATIONS. This was inevitable.<br /><br />A Stanford, an MIT, an Ohio State, a Notre Dame, can pick up "free money" by offering many classes online for free or vastly reduced rates, with certifications. So you can say, stay at home, finish in two/three years, for a fraction of the cost of a traditional degree, have a certification -- debt free! Or nearly so. And you can take lower wages, so employers will prefer a guy with an MITX certification in say, accounting, over a four-year degree from say Amherst, because the MITX guy has skills guaranteed (that MITX certification) to a minimum level, and will work for a third the cost of the Amherst guy.<br /><br />Meaning you'll have Harvard, Stanford, Yale, and maybe a few others where really rich guys go (and those who want social connections with them) and pretty much everyone else falls to the online level.<br /><br />THAT is the socially transformative power of technology. We DO live in a Sci-Fi world. We just often don't recognize it.Whiskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43485303416736846102012-02-22T19:43:59.243-08:002012-02-22T19:43:59.243-08:00". So, if a poor dumb white guy fears a poor ...". So, if a poor dumb white guy fears a poor dumb black guy--built like Mike Tyson and just as dumb--, there isn't much reason for a smart white guy to fear from someone like Obama or Truth(over here)."<br /><br />Why thank you, I believe that's the nicest thing anyone has ever said about me here.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.com