tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post3780812372489766148..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Google News: "Trayvon" and "Omar Thornton"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63892737504937608532012-04-01T11:39:32.226-07:002012-04-01T11:39:32.226-07:00"Lucille said...
What a bald faced lie on th..."Lucille said...<br /><br />What a bald faced lie on the part of Jones. Only one of the victims of the Columbine shootings was black. One was hispanic. The other 11 were white.<br /><br />Why would you even post a lie like that where the truth can be checked in less than a minute?"<br /><br />He's a shameless liar. He also lied in saying that black leaders did not want affirmative action. They quite clearly did, as is attested to by any number of their public utterances.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41432878367843060762012-04-01T11:30:39.983-07:002012-04-01T11:30:39.983-07:00The Columbine shooting? Are you for real? Only one...The Columbine shooting? Are you for real? Only one single black was killed in that shooting. The great majority of the victims were whites. Your post may be the stupidest thing I have read on this blog for a LONG time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75436512566342095252012-04-01T08:20:34.689-07:002012-04-01T08:20:34.689-07:00"Bogus. No one has 'forgotten' COokie...<i>"Bogus. No one has 'forgotten' COokie Thornton, and he did not shoot his victimes because they were white. In the Wikipedia article someone actually recently changed the original article to highlight that Thornton was black, when that has nothing to do with the story."</i><br /><br />Cookie Thornton's long-running feud with the Kirkwood City Council that culminated in his shooting rampage of them was based on his belief that there was a "racist" conspiracy against him. If you think the fact that the Kirkwood City Council was white and he was black is just incidental then you really are as stupid as you seem to be here.<br /><br />I didn't know Thornton but I do know some of the others involved in this situation and the history of the area very well and have a far more accurate take on it than you can get from Wikipedia.<br /><br />Go peddle your lies and half-baked assertions somewhere else. <br /><br /><a href="http://www.stlmag.com/St-Louis-Magazine/May-2008/Why-Did-Cookie-Thornton-Kill/" rel="nofollow">Why Did Cookie Thornton Kill?</a>Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29644837794808782892012-04-01T03:14:31.600-07:002012-04-01T03:14:31.600-07:00What a bald faced lie on the part of Jones. Only o...What a bald faced lie on the part of Jones. Only one of the victims of the Columbine shootings was black. One was hispanic. The other 11 were white.<br /><br />Why would you even post a lie like that where the truth can be checked in less than a minute?Lucillenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85509935012854400972012-03-31T22:18:12.728-07:002012-03-31T22:18:12.728-07:00With all the repressed hatred whites supposedly ha...With all the repressed hatred whites supposedly harbor for blacks, I'm trying to think of any white guy ever who just blew his top and killed as many blacks as he could. Has this EVER happened? <br /><br />All I can come up with is the 1960s church bombings, or maybe OKC because it targeted civil servants (but are civil servants even disproportionately black in Oklahoma?). There was that probably crazy guy in Carlsbad in 2010, who was mad at insurance companies (?), so he shot up a playground, but only wounding two, and screaming about Obama.<br /><br />I know Wayne Williams was black, but he was only convicted of two of the 28 Atlanta child murders. Maybe a white guy did the other 26?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66445051132786614402012-03-31T17:32:35.537-07:002012-03-31T17:32:35.537-07:00"Too Tall Jones said...
History shows that n..."Too Tall Jones said...<br /><br />History shows that neither during the enactment of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 or Richard Nixon's quota plan- "The Philadelphia Plan" 1969/1970- in neither of these cases was were AA quotas supported by major black leaders."<br /><br />Simply asserting something does not make it true. You are wrong.<br /><br />"A society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do something special for the Negro"<br /> - Martin Luther King<br /><br />"Whenever the issue of compensatory treatment for the Negro is raised, some of our friends recoil in horror. The Negro should be granted equality, they agree; but he should ask nothing more. On the surface, this appears reasonable, but it is not realistic."<br />- Martin Luther King<br /><br />"If the proportion of blacks to the total population was 12 percent, then we would ask that 12 percent of the employees be black."<br />- Martin Luther King<br /><br />"We would then tell him we were not willing to wait for these vacancies, that we wanted to see blacks in jobs right now." <br />- Martin Luther King<br /><br />"Affirmative action works but we're going to need to muster all our political resources if we are to keep it in place."<br />- Harold Washington, Mayor of Chicago, 1983-1987<br /><br />"If you don't like affirmative action, what is your plan to guarantee a level playing field of opportunity?"<br />- Maynard Jackson, Mayor of Atlanta, 1979-1983Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81320410893037337942012-03-31T16:23:48.497-07:002012-03-31T16:23:48.497-07:00"Actually, whites engaged in mass shooting ma..."Actually, whites engaged in mass shooting massacres have often targeted blacks, as the infamous Columbine school shooting shows."<br /><br />So an incident in which 1 out of 13 victims is black - that's your best example of a white massacre of blacks? SERIOUSLY?!? Wow.. this is why dialogue between the races is so difficult if not impossible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9582405575640565572012-03-31T12:47:00.977-07:002012-03-31T12:47:00.977-07:00PS/correction- Thornton, O did commit suicide, but...PS/correction- Thornton, O did commit suicide, but on the below:<br /><br /><b>Just imagine if a white guy had shot and killed eight blacks. You'd never hear the end of it.</b><br /><br />Actually, whites engaged in mass shooting massacres have often targeted blacks, as the infamous Columbine school shooting shows. Per several confirmed accounts:<br /><br /><br />"Isaiah Shoels was supposedly shot in the head in the library during the attack. Witness and student Evan Todd said, "Once when they [the shooters] shot a black kid, one of them said, 'Oh my God, look at this black kid's brain! Awesome, man!'" CNN reported, "...he [Shoels] was shot in the head execution-style in the school library, specifically because of his race and athletic interests, witnesses said. His father says he believes that account." Student Aaron Cohn, who was in the library, said, "...one killer put a pistol to his head but did not shoot him. Instead, he said, the shooter turned his attention to a black student, saying, 'I hate niggers.' Cohn heard three shots but couldn't see what happened." The Rocky Mountain News also reported, "'He said, 'We are going to shoot black people,' one girl quoted a gunman as saying as she begged him not to kill her."<br />http://www.apfn.org/apfn/Columbine2.htmToo Tall Jonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48404978162594735772012-03-31T12:37:17.314-07:002012-03-31T12:37:17.314-07:00Everyone seems to forget the other rampaging Thorn...<b>Everyone seems to forget the other rampaging Thornton. He killed six and wounded one in 2008.</b><br /><br />Bogus. No one has "forgotten" COokie Thornton, and he did not shoot his victimes because they were white. In the Wikipedia article someone actually recently changed the original article to highlight that Thornton was black, when that has nothing to do with the story. ANd the fact that Kirkwood is a jurisdiction mostly white (a point conviently inserted in the Wikipedia article recenty) also has little to do with the story either. No one is being fooled, and "race spin" is something conservatives do quite well. Thornton's is just the case of another local nut feuding with city hall. ANd actually black Omar Thornton comes up quite prominently in REGULAR Google. Sailer only looked at Google's limited news archives for a local story thus skewing the results. And in the Omar Thornton case, an arrest was actually made, contrary to the Martin case, something conveniently "forgotten."<br /><br /><br /><b>Of course that's not what Eric "My People" Holder wants to talk about. Does it signify that a few white lives have ended when true affirmative action has not yet begun? [holder says:] "Affirmative action has been an issue since segregation practices,” Holder said. “The question is not when does it end, but when does it begin ... When do people of color truly get the benefits to which they are entitled?" </b><br /><br />Even more dubious. Here is another example of right wig "spin" - tying even the remotest talking point like "affirmative action" - into the Trayvon affair. OK then, let's have this "conversation" about AA quotas. History shows that neither during the enactment of the Civil RIghts Act of 1964 or Richard Nixon's quota plan- "The Philadelphia PLan" 1969/1970- in neither of these cases was were AA quotas supported by major black leaders. In fact they were OPPOSED.<br /><br />Nixon's quota plan for example met with disapproval by every major black civil rights organization at the time. There was no clamor of blacks lining up to call for or endorse it. Instead, the white architect of Watergate correctly foresaw that quotas would be an excellent "wedge issue" dividing the opposition, while allowing conservatives to perpetually "spin" a web of distortion on the issue - and indeed this is how it played out. QUOTE:<br /><br /><i>"What needs to be explained however, is why, if affirmative action was the result of civil rights activists moving into the halls of government, very few calls for affirmative action programs were heard at the time of their "capture".. Besides localized demands for quotas in large cities, and a brief national discussion of their possibility before the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, during which civil rights leaders made clear their opposition to quotas, very little was heard about the issue at all...<br /><br />"key civil rights movement figures ignored or opposed the Philadelphia Plan when it was introduced an affirmative action policy in the construction industry in 1969... David Skrennty devotes an entire section in his book, The Ironies of Affirmative Action, to this very question. Noting that, in fact, none of the civil rights groups asked for affirmative action before it was implemented, he asks why, if racial preferences was in their interest, they did not demand it in 1964? His answer is simple: 'Anything beyond color blindness has a strange taboo-like quality. Advocacy of racial preferences was one of those 'third rails' of American politics: touch it and you die." </i><br /> --Yuill, K, 2006. Richard Nixon and the Rise of Affirmative Action. p- 2-14Too Tall Jonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74888703349902584892012-03-31T12:17:32.670-07:002012-03-31T12:17:32.670-07:00"ChrisCo said...
""Type in "O..."ChrisCo said...<br /><br />""Type in "Omar Thornton" and you get ... 1:""<br /><br />Steve, wtf are you talking about? This is Google NEWS. Thornton isn't news."<br /><br />Neither is Emmett Till, who was murdered in 1955. Yet, HE still rated higher than Omar Thornton.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90999019697098640082012-03-31T08:07:43.379-07:002012-03-31T08:07:43.379-07:00One argument that was dumped on the floor early on...One argument that was dumped on the floor early on (here, IIRC) was that this story is "news" because Zimmerman is Scot-free, so far, but the Black murderers mentioned are not. I.e., it's the injustice of it all.<br /><br />If Blacks weren't essentially immune to hate crime charges (unless homosexuals, or maybe Jews are involved), and if the HBD version of "dog bites man" weren't RACIST PSEUDO-SCIENCE!!!, that might have legs.Svigorhttp://svigor.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34304817384578459002012-03-31T00:34:36.362-07:002012-03-31T00:34:36.362-07:00"The comparison is inapposite. Trayvon Martin..."The comparison is inapposite. Trayvon Martin IS current news. The other cases are not current news."<br /><br />...Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22733022891120062482012-03-30T18:53:16.732-07:002012-03-30T18:53:16.732-07:00Steve,
The comparison is inapposite. Trayvon Mart...Steve,<br /><br />The comparison is inapposite. Trayvon Martin IS current news. The other cases are not current news.<br /><br />Google News aggregates stories published in the last 30 days; e.g., "[Google News] covers news articles appearing within the past 30 days on various news websites."<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_News<br /><br />Trayvon has saturated media outlets over the last 30 days. The other cases didn't occur over the last 30 days.<br /><br />A more apposite comparison would be Google News hits within 30 days after an event was initially reported. (This couldn't be done for Till, obviously.)NRWOnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41619046404075246842012-03-30T14:57:51.819-07:002012-03-30T14:57:51.819-07:00Liberal reasoning, have a look:
http://www.democr...Liberal reasoning, have a look:<br /><br />http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002468364#post1<br /><br />Someone posted something on Democratic Underground about the unequal lack of attention paid to Trayvon Martin, and to the heinous, barbaric attack on Nancy Strait.<br /><br />The post was removed because it was inflammatory. But you can see the responses, all of which compare Zimmerman's guilt to that of the black thug who raped and murdered an 85 year old woman, and who assaulted and disabled her husband. <br /><br />Libtard reasoning. What happened between Zimmerman and Martin is, at the least, arguable. What the black thug who attacked the Straits did isn't. Yet to the libtard mind, they are equal.<br /><br />They rule the country.Worked in PRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41663964145823636382012-03-30T14:50:08.787-07:002012-03-30T14:50:08.787-07:00My bad, I misread your post. You said Google News,...My bad, I misread your post. You said Google News, not Google.<br /><br />Sorry bout that.<br /><br />But it's a fun game to play.<br /><br />"Bob Strait" - 10 results, mostly in regional outlets.<br /><br />http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q=%22bob+strait%22<br /><br />And what's the name of the white good Samaritan in Algiers, LA, who got killed by some black thug? I've already forgotten. Mike something.Worked....in yadda yaddanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78546148429095467982012-03-30T12:56:15.312-07:002012-03-30T12:56:15.312-07:00"When will you start asking this question? Be..."When will you start asking this question? Because it is the most important question for mankind right now. Why is diversity strength for the rich and weakness for the majority working class? Before you can find the answers to the questions implicit in this dialogue, we must first ASK the questions. Your writings here should prompt these questions, but you fail to ask them. why not ask them?"<br /><br />I don't even think diversity is strength for the rich if they stop and think about it. You must remember that those in power, as they have been throughout human history, are usually old. Even in revolutions, it is often old people providing the funds.<br /><br />In our case, it is the baby boomers who have chosen to own the leftist revolution that took place when they were growing up, and are now generally too old to change their ways of thinking. Yes, they were sold a bill of goods, or sold someone else a bill of goods while thinking they were going to win on the deal. No, they do not realize how stupid they were.<br /><br />At some point the situation has to change but it can't change until the baby boomers currently in power are wheeled off into the nursing homes. Sites like this are certainly influential in shaping the opinions of those who are going to be deciding which news stories get run in say, 2030.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50476037625237258542012-03-30T12:19:57.732-07:002012-03-30T12:19:57.732-07:00Two great movies by Reed.
http://youtu.be/1Qzti2...Two great movies by Reed. <br /><br />http://youtu.be/1Qzti2-rwaw<br /><br />http://youtu.be/U0gBFaRPNJoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71018754370288539342012-03-30T11:59:59.377-07:002012-03-30T11:59:59.377-07:00Rodrick Dantzler surprisingly gets 257,000 results...Rodrick Dantzler surprisingly gets 257,000 results on Google, which is odd considering the story fell off the national cable TV news radar coverage a few hours after they realized the who and whom didn't fit the preferred narrative. <br /><br />http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43677328/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/police-killer-was-hunting-ex-girlfriends-relatives/Marc Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15526121114466617234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91355274185629451562012-03-30T11:38:17.409-07:002012-03-30T11:38:17.409-07:00That's revealing. There's some stuff here...That's revealing. There's some stuff here on the media's handling of all this here:<br /><a href="http://ex-army.blogspot.com/2012/03/trayvon-all-about-race.html" rel="nofollow">EX-ARMY</a>Baloohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08245765878554696634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87077973732806224262012-03-30T11:37:16.558-07:002012-03-30T11:37:16.558-07:00Just imagine if a white guy had shot and killed ei...Just imagine if a white guy had shot and killed eight blacks. You'd never hear the end of it. Nancy Grace would have a field day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70663834810993538022012-03-30T10:58:18.601-07:002012-03-30T10:58:18.601-07:00When I key on "omar thornton" I get 62,5...When I key on "omar thornton" I get 62,500 results.Worked in PR and Puzzlednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74040216899691467582012-03-30T10:33:32.894-07:002012-03-30T10:33:32.894-07:00is now causing more murder than it prevents by fir...<i>is now causing more murder than it prevents by firing up hotheads like Omar</i><br /><br />You just have to work <i>The Wire</i> into everything, don't you?Le Sighhttp://bit.ly/AaQfpbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91694682333355581662012-03-30T09:23:40.990-07:002012-03-30T09:23:40.990-07:00Your Till and Thornton links appear to be screwed ...Your Till and Thornton links appear to be screwed up. And the alternet link on the Byrd search is... Specialsidewaysnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87920578639503470102012-03-30T09:12:56.709-07:002012-03-30T09:12:56.709-07:00Weissberg on affirmative action.<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0zmSmYdFkpE" rel="nofollow">Weissberg on affirmative action. </a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6753688583743642692012-03-30T09:02:02.257-07:002012-03-30T09:02:02.257-07:00Everyone seems to forget the other rampaging Thorn...Everyone seems to forget the other rampaging Thornton. He killed six and wounded one in 2008.<br /><br />Type "Cookie Thornton" into Google News and you get the Wikipedia entry on the Kirkwood City Council Shooting. That made national news at the time. I remember emailing an <i>NYT</i> article on it to my dad.<br /><br /><i>"When the Attorney General asks to hold a national conversation about race and racism, this is not what he wants to talk about: the possibility that the long-running war on white racism jumped the shark some time ago into negative marginal returns and is now causing more murder than it prevents by firing up hotheads like Omar."</i><br /><br />Of course that's not what Eric "My People" Holder wants to talk about. Does it signify that a few white lives have ended when true affirmative action has not yet begun?<br /><br />Let me refresh your memory:<br /><br /><i>"Affirmative action has been an issue since segregation practices,” Holder said. “The question is not when does it end, but when does it begin ... When do people of color truly get the benefits to which they are entitled?"</i><br /><br />When, indeed. Of course the cowards who are afraid to have a conversation about race would much rather talk about a few alleged killings of whites by black men never even convicted in a court of law.Kylienoreply@blogger.com