tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post3844401254379476034..comments2024-03-15T20:52:26.967-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: 'Room for Debate" (but not for Jared Taylor)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47109855503733446072011-05-26T14:59:47.410-07:002011-05-26T14:59:47.410-07:00Judeocracy and Afrocracy.
Btw, wasn't there ...Judeocracy and Afrocracy. <br /><br />Btw, wasn't there an NYRB article about how lots of whites/Jews at NY Times felt they were being passed over in favor of less qualified blacks like Jayson Blair? <br /><br />Well, well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86921367950454720922011-05-26T14:56:23.938-07:002011-05-26T14:56:23.938-07:00Demeritocracy is just what we need.Demeritocracy is just what we need.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43883296480311953412011-05-26T13:54:34.822-07:002011-05-26T13:54:34.822-07:00"The debate was inspired by this study, not T..."The debate was inspired by this study, not Taylor's book, which has gone completely unnoticed outside of the WN/paleocon/HBD circles. As Taylor himself has pointed out, he has never been more marginal than today. It is not even possible for him to organize Amren conferences anymore, nor would anyone publish his book. It's a pity. In a different era, Taylor might have become a leading statesman."<br /><br />Taylor's strategy has always been to make alliances with conservatives, Republicans and Jews and to position white nationalism as mainstream. He seemed to be having some success back in the 90's, probably peaking about 15 years ago, but since then, his influence has gone steadily down. He doesn't seem to have any support outside of white nationalist circles anymore. <br /><br />Does anyone see any chance that the mainstream conservative movement will embrace racialism anytime soon?<br /><br />As for the panel:<br /><br />Is this impression of the debater's ethnicities correct?<br /><br />Willaims - black<br />Berstein - Jewish<br />Butler - black<br />Thernstrom - Jewish<br />Rosen - Jewish<br />Plaut - Jewish<br />Norton - white<br />Sommers - JewishATBOTLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68956245495792259312011-05-26T09:49:46.408-07:002011-05-26T09:49:46.408-07:00"The finding that white Americans see blacks’..."The finding that white Americans see blacks’ progress as an insult or a diminishment of their status is not entirely surprising." <br /><br />Glad she didn't start off this well-researched article with a patronizing tone...<br /><br />White's grievance with blacks has more to do with de facto scapegoating for what ails them as a race than their "rise" to affluence. I have never, ever heard white people discussing how their quality of life has been diminished by such a large and stable black middle or professional class. This is a phoney argument that negates rightful claims of unfairness that exist in the area of government and DWL enforced NAM favoritism.Marc Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15526121114466617234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16805091678526912042011-05-26T03:40:35.183-07:002011-05-26T03:40:35.183-07:00Is that panel 100% black or Jewish?
Not RKU:
&quo...Is that panel 100% black or Jewish?<br /><br />Not RKU:<br />"Next up: a debate on Protestant rights in Ulster between Cardinal O'Sullivan, Bishop O'Connor, Father O'Malley, and Sean Shaemas O'Rourke."<br /><br />Heh heh. :)Simon from Ulster, in Londonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78526616679185788762011-05-25T21:50:33.504-07:002011-05-25T21:50:33.504-07:00what was missing? obviously the new york times &qu...what was missing? obviously the new york times "right think" editor was missing the day these articles were published. if said editor had not been missing work that day, he would have noticed that a christian european man was allowed to give his opinion on the topic.<br /><br />that's not allowed. how did michael norton slip past the editors?<br /><br />rest of the authors:<br />woman<br />jewish guy<br />african guy<br />woman<br />jewish guy<br />woman<br />jewish guy<br /><br />ha! come on stupid euro american men, what do you have to be afraid of? clearly as these sagacious professors and authors can tell you, EVERYTHING IS GOING GREAT. there is nothing to worry about. do not notice that your country is deliberately being taken away from you.jodynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23751407019393789652011-05-25T20:30:35.022-07:002011-05-25T20:30:35.022-07:00Aside from Taylor, they could have invited HBD awa...Aside from Taylor, they could have invited HBD aware philosopher Michael Levin for his perspective.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/stalkers/levin.html" rel="nofollow">Why Race Matters</a>.Kiwiguynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1034126744375008942011-05-25T20:11:02.080-07:002011-05-25T20:11:02.080-07:00Please stop reading the NYTimes, everyone.
You ...Please stop reading the NYTimes, everyone. <br /><br />You make those people relevant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88491561593259212512011-05-25T20:04:07.226-07:002011-05-25T20:04:07.226-07:00+1 to TH on Jared Taylor's marginalized status...+1 to TH on Jared Taylor's marginalized status now. He has (for the time being) become an unperson to the NYT and the rest of the media.<br /><br />Kudos to Steve for bringing Taylor back up, and standing up for him. Steve's stubbornness (I think we've all seen it) and his media-elite readership (I believe this to be absolutely true) may get Taylor get some penetration into the so-called mainstream, even if it's crypto-style, similar to the way that Steve's own insights have disseminated.Chris Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11271663147652987977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33637873205201324692011-05-25T19:29:23.166-07:002011-05-25T19:29:23.166-07:00"WE WILL THINK AND FEEL ON OUR OWN, AND WE DO..."WE WILL THINK AND FEEL ON OUR OWN, AND WE DON'T NEED NO FREAKING LECTURE, APPROVAL, OR ACCEPTANCE FROM THE LIKES OF PATRICIA WILLIAMS OR LIBERAL JEWS!!! WE DECIDE WHAT WE WANT AND NEED!!"<br /><br />You're scaring the children. All the little children with big dreams.Haciendanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46508845132363305702011-05-25T19:19:54.627-07:002011-05-25T19:19:54.627-07:00"like such a jackass taking credit for inspir..."like such a jackass taking credit for inspiring stories without any proof."<br /><br />I'm sorry but sometimes comments responding to another comment are not clear in what they mean. You are not in tete-a-tete. Please quote that to which you are repsonding or you just confuse.who? what?noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19190739413661504852011-05-25T19:09:36.563-07:002011-05-25T19:09:36.563-07:00How did I miss this gem by the esteemed, learned e...How did I miss this gem by the esteemed, learned eruditor woman in chief from NYT:<br /><br /><br />"data show that white Americans remain the most privileged human beings on the planet.".<br /><br />Intelligence, respect for science and scientific method, deep perception and, dare I say it, BRILLIANCE, <br /><br />just OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZE out of this quote.<br /><br />Data show, indeed.AmericanGoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00865892490752172185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25125296944826377662011-05-25T19:03:04.604-07:002011-05-25T19:03:04.604-07:00I don't know, I thought that, despite his equi...I don't know, I thought that, despite his equivocating, David Bernstein made a very strong statement here:<br /><br /><i>By contrast, discrimination in favor of African-Americans (and other minorities) is protected by law in some contexts, and is often not just explicit, but proudly trumpeted.</i><br /><br />To me, that just nails it. We are lectured endlessly about what an awful thing racial discrimination is, but then the lecturers turn around and endorse racial discrimination against whites that is above board and proud. Never mind the tricky question of comparing the severity of the "hidden" discrimination against minorities against the open discrimination against whites. The openness in itself enough to provoke resentment, and rightly so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75000700498665249262011-05-25T18:54:26.895-07:002011-05-25T18:54:26.895-07:00Tim Naylor
Brooklyn, NY
May 22nd, 2011 9:59 pm
wro...Tim Naylor<br />Brooklyn, NY<br />May 22nd, 2011 9:59 pm<br />wrote in comment number 6 on the page:<br /><br /><br />"As an Asian, I find it outrageous that if I were applying to an Ivy College today, on average, I'd have to get higher marks and scores on my SAT than either black or white to get accepted. Does something seem wrong with this picture? It's not like our people were welcomed to these shores with open arms. An equivalent black admission can score approximately 20 % lower in standardized test and have the same chance of acceptance as an Asian fresh off the boat. In short, people are being penalized for excellence while other are given on hall pass on mediocrity. It does no one favors. It creates resentment on the part of the rejected who has a higher score than the accepted who is ill prepared for what lay ahead."<br /><br /><br />Rookout!!!!!<br /><br />Gozilla is waaaakin uuuuuupppp!AmericanGoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00865892490752172185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27292479677673208742011-05-25T18:46:20.410-07:002011-05-25T18:46:20.410-07:00Not that any fan of the NY Times would stoop to th...Not that any fan of the NY Times would stoop to this sort of crimethink, but how delicious is the irony of a bunch of black and Jewish professors lecturing at middle or lower class white people for feeling biased against? How meta.Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10063673363236998562011-05-25T18:41:40.801-07:002011-05-25T18:41:40.801-07:00"Notice that virtually no one on the panel wo..."<i>Notice that virtually no one on the panel would be likely to identify themselves first as "white"</i>"<br /><br />A panel supposedly debating anti-X bias but consisting of a majority non-Xs who take positions ranging anywhere from "what problem?" to "non-Xs have it worse!" pretty well demonstrates anti-X bias. Never mind that this kind of non-debate is only regarded non-debatable when X=White.Tanstaaflhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10809764986911255031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32923227067860941242011-05-25T18:22:15.960-07:002011-05-25T18:22:15.960-07:00"The substance and tone of Abigail Thernstrom..."<i>The substance and tone of Abigail Thernstrom's piece is (unsurprisingly) at odds with the comments I've read so far.</i>"<br /><br />What she says amounts to "so what, nothing new here". She goes through the motions of neutral, objective understanding, mouthing a few rhetorical questions, showing no sign of having any concern about the answers.Tanstaaflhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10809764986911255031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84098397558817477342011-05-25T18:09:16.524-07:002011-05-25T18:09:16.524-07:00>lololdright, being irrelevant<
Shouldn'...>lololdright, being irrelevant<<br /><br />Shouldn't you be on a beach right now, celebrating your graduation from community college?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13588463715226634302011-05-25T18:07:44.621-07:002011-05-25T18:07:44.621-07:00"OK? Conspiracy detected, I guess?
lololdrig..."OK? Conspiracy detected, I guess?<br /><br />lololdright, being irrelevant"<br /><br />Millennials talk like 5 year-old girls.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21761353630063169442011-05-25T18:07:08.039-07:002011-05-25T18:07:08.039-07:00>even this is about the Jews? Ugh.<
Yes, it...>even this is about the Jews? Ugh.<<br /><br />Yes, it is. Look at all those Jews talking about it...and taking sides against whites.<br /><br />Ugh, indeed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23763119863743361152011-05-25T17:56:39.591-07:002011-05-25T17:56:39.591-07:00Diversity is our strength!Diversity is our strength!Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81106200733101867132011-05-25T17:55:48.690-07:002011-05-25T17:55:48.690-07:00"even this is about the Jews? Ugh."
Cor..."even this is about the Jews? Ugh."<br /><br />Correction: <br /><br />Even this is BY and FROM Jews.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58562131535236017122011-05-25T17:50:35.997-07:002011-05-25T17:50:35.997-07:00Notice that virtually no one on the panel would be...Notice that virtually no one on the panel would be likely to identify themselves first as "white", instead of black, Jewish, etc. Yet they are all experts on whether anti-white bias is a problem for whites.Max Rnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23326250281069780112011-05-25T17:33:37.530-07:002011-05-25T17:33:37.530-07:00Jared Taylor is evil. Al Sharpton is good. No mo...Jared Taylor is evil. Al Sharpton is good. No more to explain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59629088303943666752011-05-25T16:47:49.938-07:002011-05-25T16:47:49.938-07:00Silly me, I thought that in a debate, TWO opposing...Silly me, I thought that in a debate, TWO opposing viewpoints are presented.Tom in VAnoreply@blogger.com