tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post398109759619258340..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Rev. Wright as an intellectualUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84158054348737134512008-04-29T15:34:00.000-07:002008-04-29T15:34:00.000-07:00Obama wants you to believe that Wright is actually...<I>Obama wants you to believe that Wright is actually much more moderate than a few out-of-context clips might show. Wright, on the other hand, means that he's got lots more where that's coming from</I><BR/><BR/>That was laugh out loud funny Steve. But beneath that, you're describing a very familiar experience. I know the feeling (Wright's) you describe all too well, though his schtick is far more tolerated than mine, and far less supportable.<BR/><BR/><I>I think Obama chose Wright for a simpler reason: to learn how to be seen as socially and politically black despite having fairly light skin. Wright is the master of maintaining "black" identity without dark complexion.</I><BR/><BR/>Damn Sam! Why didn't I think of that! It makes PERFECT sense. In fact it's so perfect it seems to be too good to be true; it dovetails flawlessly with my theory of Obama's racial identity (talented, <B>thoroughly</B> culturally-white guy seeking fame & fortune by becoming "black)).<BR/><BR/>I owe you a beer if we ever meet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88244530228239440172008-04-29T06:55:00.000-07:002008-04-29T06:55:00.000-07:00It's pretty clear to me that Wright is a smart guy...It's pretty clear to me that Wright is a smart guy. And that must have been a big draw for Obama, who must have been frustrated by the lack of intellectual equals among the black leadership he encountered in Chicago. The IQ angle to their relationship is another thing that probably only Sailer would engage with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2193872360334139912008-04-29T04:02:00.000-07:002008-04-29T04:02:00.000-07:00Rev. Wright actually has some pretty interesting t...Rev. Wright actually has some pretty interesting things to say about race. Sure, there is some edge to it. Race is about divisions, folks. Any honest discussion of race must acknowledge those divisions that custom has erected. <BR/><BR/>His whole "God damn America" thing is a useful sound bite, but what was his point? That America probably doesn't have much legitimate business in the Mideast? Maybe even that the American involvement there is somehow unnatural or unbalanced in a way that invites "divine retribution"? Hmm. Well, why are we fighting wars half way around the world? For "democracy"? <BR/><BR/>Many blacks notice that white Americans are gung-ho to be benevolent MidEast Peacemakers, Environmental Warriors, and so on. But then ignore problems in our own country, as happened with Katrina. Do they have a point? I think so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85185136627011610452008-04-29T02:53:00.000-07:002008-04-29T02:53:00.000-07:00Obama is deep down a Marxists. His family. His men...Obama is deep down a Marxists. His family. His mentor Frank Marshall Davis and now Wright.<BR/><BR/>He has learned to "pass". That mask is coming off.<BR/><BR/>However, it is not intellectual Marxism in any sense. It is Marxism as a means to power. (Candy Canes and Fluffy Bunnies and Rainbows for every one when we destroy the evil ones)M. Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09508934110558197375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19797568967894033352008-04-29T02:32:00.000-07:002008-04-29T02:32:00.000-07:00Mr. Smead hits it on the head; the yuppie Ivy Leag...Mr. Smead hits it on the head; the yuppie Ivy League guy looks for street cred with a cultural group that could get him places in politics. Great, got him as far as the US Senate.<BR/><BR/>The reverse side is that Obama hasn't the background to figure exactly how far up the creek he has paddled. His professors hated America, his pastor (and I assume, his Christianity) blames whitey, his wife has a bone to pick with the country, and he belongs to the Party of aggrieved minorities. He hasn't even lived overseas to figure out this might actually be the best of all possible worlds, imagine that.<BR/><BR/>Clinton will get the nomination in Denver.pashleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05715136443619581501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84784528831394197922008-04-28T23:39:00.000-07:002008-04-28T23:39:00.000-07:00Perhaps you can start a think tank together with R...Perhaps you can start a think tank together with Rev Wright.<BR/><BR/>Oprah could probably get you press.<BR/><BR/>He could do the talking and you could do the...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41559158858870957992008-04-28T23:31:00.000-07:002008-04-28T23:31:00.000-07:00william said...Remember, the Trinity website also ...<I>william said...<BR/>Remember, the Trinity website also sells a CD celebrating Wright's status as an eminent "Ethnomusicologist," whatever the hell that is.</I><BR/><BR/>When I was a kid I knew a nice Japanese couple, both of whom were ethnomusicologists. They were mild-mannered, altruistic types who adopted a Vietnamese orphan -- one of my childhood friends. Liberal I'm sure, but they lived according to their ideals. <BR/><BR/>I actually find the idea of ethnomusicology very interesting, and I'm glad someone's doing it. However, I understand that their work may seem trivial to most people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31863090140251288212008-04-28T22:57:00.000-07:002008-04-28T22:57:00.000-07:00Steve wrote: "It's especially annoying to Wright t...Steve wrote: <I>"It's especially annoying to Wright that nobody in the white press has paid much attention to the idea that a very bright young man named Barack Obama chose, out of all the black ministers he'd come into contact with during his four years as a community organizer, Rev. Wright because Obama was impressed with Wright's intellect and agreed with his ideology."</I><BR/><BR/>I agree, but I also think Wright is flattering/ deluding himself. I think Obama chose Wright for a simpler reason: to learn how to be seen as socially and politically black despite having fairly light skin. Wright is the master of maintaining "black" identity without dark complexion.<BR/><BR/>I agree that Obama likes Wright's leftist ideology, but I strongly suspect that much of its allure is that the American academic/literary establishment agrees that hard leftism is the "proper" ideology <I>for blacks</I>. Indeed, all non-leftist blacks in this country are routinely denounced as race traitors by the media (cf. treatment of Clarence Thomas).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38580875906416124752008-04-28T21:22:00.000-07:002008-04-28T21:22:00.000-07:00That's where all this "to attack Wright is to atta...That's where all this "to attack Wright is to attack black America" stuff is coming from. There's no seriously-considered intellectual ideology here. It's just a cry of pain. It applies to all blacks and it shouldn't be held up to white standards of offense because of the special pain suffered by blacks. This is what the media (including most black commentators) have assumed and of course Obama helped them assume that by saying he could not longer denounce Wright than black America.<BR/><BR/>Of course, Wright might be contributing to this by saying he represents "the black church" but presumably he means it differently (like that his church is the one blacks should get behind!).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58073659888005842462008-04-28T21:19:00.000-07:002008-04-28T21:19:00.000-07:00Remember, the Trinity website also sells a CD cele...Remember, the Trinity website also sells a CD celebrating Wright's status as an eminent <A HREF="http://www.tucc.org/store/index.cfm?action=moreinfo&pid=6658" REL="nofollow">"Ethnomusicologist,"</A> whatever the hell that is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com