tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post4057470272190802916..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Mark Zuckerberg's cheap labor lobbyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger79125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13820251120577045122013-04-15T07:30:19.980-07:002013-04-15T07:30:19.980-07:00Henceforth to be known as the NAABP, or National A...Henceforth to be known as the NAABP, or National Association for the Advancement of Billionaire People.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56568503820299872822013-04-14T23:07:31.794-07:002013-04-14T23:07:31.794-07:00"I wonder how much of Zuckerberg's feelin...<i>"I wonder how much of Zuckerberg's feelings on this issue come from the fact that he has decided to mix his DNA with Chinese DNA for his procreation?"</i><br /><br />It's probably irrelevant. Norman Matloff, the UC-Davis computer science professor I mentioned above, who <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/323943/Norman_Matloff" rel="nofollow">opposes the importation of cheap labor</a>, happens to be married to a Chinese woman (and is fluent in Mandarin). Dave Pinsenhttps://twitter.com/dpinsennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87208478973171606212013-04-14T22:19:38.837-07:002013-04-14T22:19:38.837-07:00Sailer,
Why does Whiskey get to shit on any and e...Sailer,<br /><br />Why does Whiskey get to shit on any and every thread?robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42290339140148856672013-04-14T20:53:47.106-07:002013-04-14T20:53:47.106-07:00One of the bigger arguments against more immigrati...One of the bigger arguments against more immigration to me is the attitude of people like Zuckerberg, who seem to consider themselves immigrants first and Americans second (or even further down the list). I don't think we're better off overall because such opportunistic people are here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62763194721451918342013-04-14T20:42:33.720-07:002013-04-14T20:42:33.720-07:00Yes, the person who said that Indians integrate mo...<i>Yes, the person who said that Indians integrate more than East Asians was wrong. Indians are more likely than East Asians to only hire their own. I've seen this happen many times with my own eyes. I'm not just repeating things that I've read on this. Secondly, Indians are less likely than East Asians to intermarry with whites.</i><br /><br />This seems entirely consistent with what I've seen from east Asians and south Asians. South Asians seem much more arrogant, extroverted, aggressive, and ethnocentric than east Asians.<br /><br /><i>Anon -- Murdoch is indeed not Jewish.</i><br /><br />He's an honorary member of the tribe, like you (if you really weren't born Jewish, which I tend to doubt). Like that dude in <i>Snatch</i>. Hmmm, now what possible advantage could a media baron hope to gain...<br /><br /><i>Look at Zuckerberg. How Jewish is he? Answer: none at all or he wouldn't have married a Chinese woman. His kids will be Chinese not Jewish. And Jewish out-marriage is exceedingly common, save in Israel. Traditional Americans like and identify with working/middle class Israelis because they are nationalist Whites who fight back. And they like the fighting back.</i><br /><br />You keep saying Jews outmarry at high rates, but then you say Jews who outmarry aren't Jewish at all. Which is it? Can't be both.<br /><br />But essentially, it's a lie, anyway. First of all, nobody has stats for REAL Jewish "outmarriage," i.e., Jews marrying outside their race. Those numbers are apparently a state secret. Which they wouldn't be if they weren't an embarrassment to Jewry, I think.<br /><br />Second, if you compare the actual rate of "outmarriage" for Jews to those of whites descended from western or central Europe, it's lower than for other whites, not higher. I.e., Jews marry Jews more often than Italians marry Italians, Irish marry Irish, etc. So like I said, it's essentially a lie.<br /><br /><i>Maybe the future of the reform or non-denom or whatever they call themselves. However, the orthodox and their exponential breeding habits should make a new batch of Jews in no time, I would think. If there is one thing that history tells us, it's that there will still be Jews.</i><br /><br />Nope. Trust Whiskey the "Scots-Irish" guru of Jewish blamelessness. Not the lying eyes of 3,000 years of history.Svigornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21088873986998822232013-04-14T17:31:19.778-07:002013-04-14T17:31:19.778-07:00"I disagree. Since my kids, who are mixed rac..."I disagree. Since my kids, who are mixed race and have an Asian mother, I've grown to despise our immigration policy even more."<br /><br />I guess there is the case of the Derb and now yourself, but from where I sit the majority in your position take on roles as the new Commissars of PC, especially hate speech enforcers and such.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37327869691631959802013-04-14T12:57:17.908-07:002013-04-14T12:57:17.908-07:00Hey, countenance, look on the bright side: At lea...Hey, countenance, look on the bright side: At least our profession is smart enough to artificially create new need for its services. The libertarians in the tech industry were too naive and trusting to protect themselves in any way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46070890143865474132013-04-14T09:47:11.086-07:002013-04-14T09:47:11.086-07:00I am of the opinion that SV firms hid their divers...I am of the opinion that SV firms hid their diversity data not to cover up how few blacks and Hispanics there are, but to cover up how many Asians there are.<br /><br />Zuckerberg writes:<br /><br /><i>In fact, the more people who know something, the better educated and trained we all are, the more productive we become, and the better off everyone in our nation can be.</i><br /><br />I am not one penny richer nor one iota more productive for knowing about three-quarters of the things I know. That which I do know which I thought would make me productive and well off (financial accounting) has been taken from me with legal immigration and H-xB.countenancehttp://countenance.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45214248074413898862013-04-14T08:42:27.790-07:002013-04-14T08:42:27.790-07:00Yet again, any post with a whiff of militancy towa...Yet again, any post with a whiff of militancy towards those wrecking our country gets snuffed by komment kontrol, but whiskey is free to deflect deflect deflect all he wants.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45849542137821796262013-04-14T08:33:58.505-07:002013-04-14T08:33:58.505-07:00Once people have mixed race children, they suddenl...<i>Once people have mixed race children, they suddenly have a horse in the race.</i><br /><br />I disagree. Since my kids, who are mixed race and have an Asian mother, I've grown to despise our immigration policy even more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9260124830512230442013-04-14T07:00:20.866-07:002013-04-14T07:00:20.866-07:00"Increasingly, populists in Israel are trying..."Increasingly, populists in Israel are trying to rein in the Oligarchs there who are as much a problem as they are here."<br /><br />oi vey, the russian mafia running israel! and don't forget its link to harvard-wasp mafia!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19654012399020610252013-04-14T04:15:18.724-07:002013-04-14T04:15:18.724-07:00"he future of Jews outside Israel is total ab..."he future of Jews outside Israel is total absorption into the larger population ala Blacks in Mexico after Slavery was abolished."<br /><br />Maybe the future of the reform or non-denom or whatever they call themselves. However, the orthodox and their exponential breeding habits should make a new batch of Jews in no time, I would think. If there is one thing that history tells us, it's that there will still be Jews.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13223381473657669132013-04-13T22:36:01.122-07:002013-04-13T22:36:01.122-07:00"Probably not nearly as important as the fact..."Probably not nearly as important as the fact he is a Jew."<br /><br />Maybe not, but I have certainly noticed that some of the biggest immigration supporters, especially those in media, government and bureaucratic positions of power who are boosting this have foreign, usually Asian wives. Once people have mixed race children, they suddenly have a horse in the race. Consider that a white couple with children can probably live and do ok either way in a country with PC or mass deportations. Someone with mixed race kids will find the latter situation untenable.<br /><br />As far as Jewish attitudes on immigration, you are right, as far as back in 2012, 57% are in favor of immigration, 32% are against. It's pretty sad. What's worse is that this is more popular among younger Jews.<br /><br />http://publicreligion.org/research/2012/04/jewish-values-in-2012/<br /><br />You have to download the report to see that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90336191344665712972013-04-13T22:00:07.201-07:002013-04-13T22:00:07.201-07:00Steve, your next post should be on this: how does ...Steve, your next post should be on this: how does the right develop a language to advocate securing our borders that will win people over? What arguments can we use that sound compassionate, just, and convincing to someone who isn't already on our side?<br /><br />Matthewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52549000308188681052013-04-13T21:54:52.678-07:002013-04-13T21:54:52.678-07:00In an industry full of douchebags, Zuckerberg and ...In an industry full of douchebags, Zuckerberg and Saverin might very well be the biggest douchebags of all. People may use "his" product, but why the hell would anyone listen to what Zuckerberg has to say?<br /><br />Rather than listen to Zuckerberg on immigration, Americans should pay attention to what his former partner, Eduardo Saverin, actually did. He came here as a youth with his family from South America, allegedly because he was found on a target list of potential kidnapees for ransom (another vibrant Latin American tradition we should take note of). Saverin became a naturalized US citizen of his own free will, made billions off of Facebook, then hightailed it out of the country in order to avoid paying taxes on his wealth.<br /><br />First generation immigrants and their children very often have no loyalties to the United States. They come here because it's a business deal. Unlike early American settlers, they take no risk in coming here - their incomes are allmost guaranteed to increase, in the Information Age they don't really leave anyone behind, and if they fail they have oodles of welfare programs to take advantage of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57750802286602099542013-04-13T21:48:15.887-07:002013-04-13T21:48:15.887-07:00"Indians are more likely than East Asians to ...<i>"Indians are more likely than East Asians to only hire their own."</i><br /><br />This is what I've seen in silicon valley. <br /><br />The interesting thing is how many of the Indians hired come direct from India. No real need now for a stay at a US university. <br /><br />Sometimes Indian managers put it this way, "It's really hard to hire people here, this company has got a real bad reputation, I don't know what to do." "Well, I guess you'll just have to figure out where you can find someone to hire, sounds like there's not much choice."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42534091638355338662013-04-13T21:07:37.039-07:002013-04-13T21:07:37.039-07:00Steve, the FT had this weekend an article about Is...Steve, the FT had this weekend an article about Israel's richest man, a billionaire, moving to London. Like most of the super-rich he lives in a total bubble of people kissing his behind. Meanwhile he's hated in Israel and the sale of his potash concession to a foreign firm was vetoed by the government. Increasingly, populists in Israel are trying to rein in the Oligarchs there who are as much a problem as they are here.<br /><br />Anon -- Murdoch is indeed not Jewish. And like most Oligarchs world-wide hates their own people and feels more fellowship with their increasingly inter-related Oligarchs and elites in other nations.<br /><br />Look at Zuckerberg. How Jewish is he? Answer: none at all or he wouldn't have married a Chinese woman. His kids will be Chinese not Jewish. And Jewish out-marriage is exceedingly common, save in Israel. Traditional Americans like and identify with working/middle class Israelis because they are nationalist Whites who fight back. And they like the fighting back.<br /><br />The future of Jews outside Israel is total absorption into the larger population ala Blacks in Mexico after Slavery was abolished. Intermarriage and lack of ethnocentric feeling in the most personal decisions: who you have kids with -- is no different from the obliterating "no standards" of the elite AND THE UPPER CLASS (the media, the universities, K-12, government day to day employees, etc.)<br /><br />Went to the DMV the other day, Laguna Hills location. Not a single White guy working there. Not one.Whiskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75251835847966558032013-04-13T20:55:58.738-07:002013-04-13T20:55:58.738-07:00Steve -- this is all about Tech wanting a flood of...Steve -- this is all about Tech wanting a flood of H1-Bs without any modest limits as of now. Zuckerberg wants to import half of India and China's coders to work at those wages and prevent any other tech threats by well paid junior staffers who can figure out what he's doing wrong and fix it ... with their own company. That's why the other tech barons are onboard as well.<br /><br />Stifle competition, get servile labor for life. What's not to like?Whiskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49299540008170837322013-04-13T20:50:43.286-07:002013-04-13T20:50:43.286-07:00wasn't that an Indian that zuckerberg stole th...<i>wasn't that an Indian that zuckerberg stole the facebook idea from?</i><br /><br />How likely is it, given the history of IT that an Indian originated the concept?<br /><br />The apparent originators of the concept worked with an Indian gut but they and he have been largely airbrushed out of od=fficial Facebook history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25669172950855926172013-04-13T20:47:57.436-07:002013-04-13T20:47:57.436-07:00"Yes, the person who said that Indians integr..."Yes, the person who said that Indians integrate more than East Asians was wrong. Indians are more likely than East Asians to only hire their own. I've seen this happen many times with my own eyes. I'm not just repeating things that I've read on this. Secondly, Indians are less likely than East Asians to intermarry with whites."<br /><br />That's in large part because Indians are 85% foreign born, which are much less likely to intermarry and intermingle. But Im talking 2nd generation Indian or people who have been here since their early teens or before that.<br /><br />Those kinds of Indians do get promoted a lot more to the highest positions and do in turn hire whites. A good example from the tech world is Anandtech.com. Indian founder, almost entirely white in the staff. Can anyone say that the tech industry lacks Indians?<br /><br />But sure, if you're an Indian immigrant who comes here and you weren't born here, your entire social circle is another bunch of foreign-born Indians then of course you'll hire mostly people from your own social circle. Just like Mark Zuckerberg did and hire tons of white people. With Sandberg leaving, there are not many Jews in the highest echelons at Facebook. And the only reason why she was hired was because his previous COO, a WASP, got too ambitious and wanted the top job. Had he been more loyal, he'd still be in his job.<br /><br />As for intermarriage, almost 40% of U.S.-born Indian women intermarry and just about all of them to whites, this according to the 2010 census. But again, note that 85% of Indian-Americans are NOT U.S. born, so the demographic I'm talking about is much younger than the general Indian population. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27468942226626320512013-04-13T20:44:22.105-07:002013-04-13T20:44:22.105-07:00Indians don't do that, hence they climb much h...<i>Indians don't do that, hence they climb much higher.</i><br /><br />Maybe its a caste related thing? Other 'Indians' outside of one's family or caste arent people you are going to give a leg up to?<br /><br />And once they reach some authority they unleash the forces of nepotism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51134944330947758242013-04-13T18:41:56.027-07:002013-04-13T18:41:56.027-07:00"Yes, the person who said that Indians integr..."Yes, the person who said that Indians integrate more than East Asians was wrong."<br /><br />say, wasn't that an Indian that zuckerberg stole the facebook idea from?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50188860216621737122013-04-13T16:54:31.538-07:002013-04-13T16:54:31.538-07:00"Let me see. Coal contains lots of carbon. Yu..."Let me see. Coal contains lots of carbon. Yup, good first step."<br /><br />If you expect one person to simultaneously make the grid carbon independent at the same time as building an electric car to help make viable a transport solution that is oil independent, I think your expectations are too high.<br /><br />An electric car can just as easily run on electricity harvested from roof solar panels as from the grid. And even using coal, less CO2 is produced than with the equivalent gasoline powered car.<br /><br />"Power losses in electricity means more carbon burned. Yup, good second step."<br /><br />See above. And also consider that getting gasoline into a car, starting from crude oil over in Saudi Arabia has some costs associated with it too.<br /><br />"Heavier vehicles means more carbon used in their production. Yup, good third step."<br /><br />Possibly, though over the lifetime I would expect that the carbon from fuel consumed would dominate pollution produced.<br /><br />"More exotic materials used (lots of those batteries.) Yup, more polution."<br /><br />They are also recycled, because they are expensive and of a size that makes it economical to recycle them. I don't see this as a big issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48358983535087511852013-04-13T16:45:17.123-07:002013-04-13T16:45:17.123-07:00"I wonder how much his views are dependent on..."I wonder how much his views are dependent on the fact he has chosen Chinese DNA to procreate with".<br /><br />Probably not nearly as important as the fact he is a Jew. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84176786677606424872013-04-13T16:44:53.559-07:002013-04-13T16:44:53.559-07:00America can double-plus good itself by importing t...America can double-plus good itself by importing tens of millions of India's street & alley dwellers.<br />Not only by getting the warm fuzzies over helping the exceedingly disadvantaged, but who knows? Giving them all a free college education might develop some developers, too! We need to fill all those vacant homes somehow. C'mon America! The entire world is waiting!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com