tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post4070957255279036469..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Subprime and Illegal AliensUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10681803138626983892009-04-13T19:12:00.000-07:002009-04-13T19:12:00.000-07:00"PRCalDude said...
Soundtracks are used to manipu..."PRCalDude said...<br /><br />Soundtracks are used to manipulate, not to inform<br /><br />Yeah, and...? I didn't make the video, but which parts do you believe to be "manipulative" and therefore false?"<br /><br />I'm not blaming you for it, PRCalDude. And I'm already against Sharia-anything, anywhere in the western world.<br /><br />I was just saying that if they want me to pay attention, they should forgo the soundtrack. Otherwise, I'll just turn it off - which I did. It is manipulative, and BTW, manipulative does not necessarily mean false - it just means manipulative.<br /><br />Again, my beef isn't with you. This is just one of my pet peeves.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49443898702966269502009-04-13T14:32:00.000-07:002009-04-13T14:32:00.000-07:00Soundtracks are used to manipulate, not to informY...<I>Soundtracks are used to manipulate, not to inform</I><BR/><BR/>Yeah, and...? I didn't make the video, but which parts do you believe to be "manipulative" and therefore false?PRCalDudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04536108855155262530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67283136015924819672009-04-13T08:15:00.000-07:002009-04-13T08:15:00.000-07:00Anonymous saidDavid do you really believe that the...Anonymous said<BR/><BR/><I>David do you really believe that there are no native born whites, blacks, or Asians who particpated in such schemes?</I><BR/><BR/>Is that the best you can do?<BR/><BR/><I>underwriters intentionally ignored evidence that loan applicants were not American citizens</I><BR/><BR/>Greed appeared out of nowhere and standards of creditworthiness, built up and maintained over centuries, vanished! Darn that Greed!<BR/><BR/><I>You cite a number of laws in your post but...</I><BR/><BR/>But you didn't pay attention. What effect could laws have on anything?<BR/><BR/><I>These banks were not operating out of any altruistic desire to increase home ownership rates amongst minorities</I><BR/><BR/>Say it ain't so. (And I cleaned that up.)<BR/><BR/>You haven't been following Steve's articles on The Minority Mortgage Meltdown here and on vdare.com. Please read those and then come back.Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17998702323707062202009-04-13T08:13:00.000-07:002009-04-13T08:13:00.000-07:00"PRCalDude said...Steve,The banks lending to illeg..."PRCalDude said...<BR/><BR/>Steve,<BR/><BR/>The banks lending to illegals are the same ones involved in shariah finance."<BR/><BR/>That video is longer than it needs to be. And the bombastic action-movie music that's always in the background is distracting and stupid. Why is that needed - a soundtrack to accompany a single person talking to the screen? Soundtracks are used to manipulate, not to informMr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50635280558602725752009-04-12T23:37:00.000-07:002009-04-12T23:37:00.000-07:00Steve,The banks lending to illegals are the same o...Steve,<BR/><BR/>The banks lending to illegals are the same ones <A HREF="http://www.actforamerica.org/index.php/home/18-headline-item/518-shariah-compliant-finance-jihad-with-money" REL="nofollow">involved in shariah finance</A>.<BR/><BR/>I used to mock people who talked about "banker wars."PRCalDudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04536108855155262530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45122042996483920422009-04-12T19:56:00.000-07:002009-04-12T19:56:00.000-07:00Over 50% of the sub primes were for cash-out refi’...<I>Over 50% of the sub primes were for cash-out refi’s.</I><BR/><BR/>Basically we gave these illegals Billions of dollars to stay here. <BR/><BR/>Its amazing that Deutsche Bank would be one of the leading lenders in this fraud.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42102723265330818552009-04-12T17:40:00.000-07:002009-04-12T17:40:00.000-07:00David saidSo after all the evidence of the Communi...David said<BR/>So after all the evidence of the Community Reinvestment Act, Bush Administration policy, Treasury guidelines, testimony from lenders, etc., etc., you say it was a chance event that the participants were illegals.<BR/><BR/>David do you really believe that there are no native born whites, blacks, or Asians who particpated in such schemes? This article is describing criminal behavior whereby underwriters intentionally ignored evidence that loan applicants were not American citizens, and even more importantly, they did not have the means to repay the loans that they were applying for. <BR/>You cite a number of laws in your post but it is obvious from the article that responsible parties in the banks were intentionally ignoring or breaking the very rules that they were supposed to be operating under.<BR/>These banks were not operating out of any altruistic desire to increase home ownership rates amongst minorities - they were simply trying to find a easy way to profit off of all of the cheap money that Greenspan had flooded the banking system with in the late 90s and early 2000s.<BR/>Why is that so hard to understand?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88477147659651073372009-04-12T16:04:00.000-07:002009-04-12T16:04:00.000-07:00"Captain Jack Aubrey said...IS this Gordon Brown's..."Captain Jack Aubrey said...<BR/><BR/>IS this Gordon Brown's payback for those damn DVDs and all the other slights? Would be funny if that's how the story made it into the news."<BR/><BR/>Interesting point. It didn't surface at the time it happened - around the innauguration. Only now, after Mr. Brown was publicly humiliated, has it come to light.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29076524864970237082009-04-12T15:01:00.000-07:002009-04-12T15:01:00.000-07:00They have a ready-made escape hatch. The incentive...<I>They have a ready-made escape hatch. The incentives and disincentives governing their behavior are vastly different from those governing a US citizen's. It's all upside potential.</I><BR/><BR/>Being an American citizen is a disadvantage in this age. It's the Declaration of Independence turned on its head - and the voters only are to blame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91669967249495559992009-04-12T11:18:00.000-07:002009-04-12T11:18:00.000-07:00I think people like Truth have a point. The activi...<I>I think people like Truth have a point. The activities described in that article are good old fashioned fraud. One could be agnostic, or even hostile, to the whole idea of HBD and still vigorously object to the activities that were described. The participants in these schemes could just as well have been American citizens as illegal aliens.</I><BR/><BR/>Ridiculous. Illegals don't have a credit history to hold them back or a credit FUTURE to worry about. They don't have an identity to which their behavior is tied. They have a ready-made escape hatch. The incentives and disincentives governing their behavior are vastly different from those governing a US citizen's. It's all upside potential.ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49782352802877620912009-04-12T10:19:00.000-07:002009-04-12T10:19:00.000-07:00I think people like Truth have a point. The activi...<I>I think people like Truth have a point. The activities described in that article are good old fashioned fraud. One could be agnostic, or even hostile, to the whole idea of HBD and still vigorously object to the activities that were described. The participants in these schemes could just as well have been American citizens as illegal aliens. Not all criminals have names like Carlos and Jose - believe it or not, some even have names like Bernie and nifty little titles like "Sir".</I><BR/><BR/>The point is that PC is used to bludgeon whites into submission; don't be surprised when it's used to bludgeon whites into submitting to wickedness.<BR/><BR/>Without PC, this fraud might not have been possible. It certainly would not have been possible to the extent it was.<BR/><BR/>Not seeing how there's any way around this particular painted corner.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42850512401556161732009-04-12T10:17:00.000-07:002009-04-12T10:17:00.000-07:00Why do we have to pay for our dispossession?The el...Why do we have to pay for our dispossession?<BR/><BR/>The elites cannot forcibly expel Americans to areas east of the Urals.<BR/><BR/>So, tens of millions have been brought into this country to do the same thing.<BR/><BR/>Same difference: dispossession.<BR/><BR/>Oh yeah, George Bush's pal Rob Allyn said in the Dallas newspaper a few years ago that illegal aliens were "entrenched" in this country.<BR/><BR/>Now do you know why the Patriot Act had this provision?Roger Chailletnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4726808567614008482009-04-12T08:59:00.000-07:002009-04-12T08:59:00.000-07:00Anonymous saidThe participants in these schemes co...Anonymous said<BR/><BR/><I>The participants in these schemes could just as well have been American citizens as illegal aliens.</I><BR/><BR/>So after all the evidence of the Community Reinvestment Act, Bush Administration policy, Treasury guidelines, testimony from lenders, etc., etc., you say it was a chance event that the participants were illegals.<BR/><BR/>None so blind as those who will not see.<BR/><BR/>If a school had a policy of giving "A"s preferentially to Albanian students, refused to punish any Albanian students for cheating, and stated publicly "our top priority is to advance Albanian students," would you assert that the school's Honor Roll could "just as well" be filled by non-Albanians students as by Albanian students? Particularly in the teeth of the fact that Albanian students were disproportionately represented on the Roll?<BR/><BR/>File Anonymous under -Political Correctness Makes You Stupid-.Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36603630769100755082009-04-12T08:52:00.000-07:002009-04-12T08:52:00.000-07:00This blog is one that should seen. Goldman are unh...This blog is one that <I>should</I> seen. Goldman are unhappy to say the least!<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.goldmansachs666.com" REL="nofollow">www.goldmansachs666.com</A><BR/><BR/>Come on people spread that url around. There has only been one MSM reference to it - in the UK Telegraph. The US media are too scared I assume.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81556241213223505342009-04-12T08:36:00.000-07:002009-04-12T08:36:00.000-07:00As much as I dislike the idea of illegals being he...As much as I dislike the idea of illegals being here, I have a feeling there's more to this than just a bunch of underemployed lawn cutters pulling the same scam in huge numbers. Even if the idea for it could spread by word of mouth--like a bad movie on opening weekend--I get the feeling that it took an awful lot of moxy and incentive to pull this off. I dunno if it's the mob or the cartels or what, but my gut feeling tells me there's more to this than thousands of illiterate drywallers suddenly manipulating the mortgage industry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82281679619760696352009-04-12T08:26:00.000-07:002009-04-12T08:26:00.000-07:00Love the link to the Obama brother story. Thanks f...Love the link to the Obama brother story. Thanks for the laugh, CJ.<BR/><BR/>IS this Gordon Brown's payback for those damn DVDs and all the other slights? Would be funny if that's how the story made it into the news.<BR/><BR/>Note this line: <I>Mum Kezia, 67, has lived in Bracknell for six years. She married the US president's father Barack Obama Snr in Kenya when she was a teenager.</I><BR/><BR/>2009 minus 67 means a birth in 1941 or 1942. Barack Obama's own mother was born in late '42 (she was still 17 when she got knocked up with the future Messiah). He married them both when they were teenagers - meaning about the same time. Of course we all already knew that, but it's nice to be reminded from time to time.<BR/><BR/>And what is it about these Obama family members not wanting to live in the black paradise of Kenya? His Aunt lives illegally in the US. His half-brother lives in China. One of his dad's other wives lives in Britain. His half-brother is trying to get into Britain.<BR/><BR/><I>"I asked what Barack was like as a teenager and he said he was always charismatic and calm."</I><BR/><BR/>"Always" - for the 5 minutes he knew him.<BR/><BR/>My guess is that Samson will soon be granted asylum in the good ole US of A.Captain Jack Aubreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27077829125693519142009-04-12T08:04:00.000-07:002009-04-12T08:04:00.000-07:00The participants in these schemes could just as we...<I>The participants in these schemes could just as well have been American citizens as illegal aliens.</I> <BR/><BR/>What moves people to write things which are patently untrue? Our government does not bend over backwards to allow US citizens to break the law.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76719146375740191382009-04-12T08:03:00.000-07:002009-04-12T08:03:00.000-07:00My previous comment was in response to this post.My previous comment was in response to <A HREF="http://isteve.blogspot.com/2009/04/point-of-obamas-amnesty-push.html" REL="nofollow">this post</A>.Tanstaaflhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10809764986911255031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48151474463752939802009-04-12T07:59:00.000-07:002009-04-12T07:59:00.000-07:00The LA Times has two surprisingly conservative art...The LA Times has two surprisingly conservative articles about the mortgage scams and the epidemic of bad paper in today's LA Times:<BR/><BR/>On HUD scams:<BR/>http://tinyurl.com/ddd46k<BR/><BR/>On the epidemic of bad paper:<BR/>http://tinyurl.com/ct2zrdBig Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27993208943555386242009-04-12T06:06:00.000-07:002009-04-12T06:06:00.000-07:00"I think people like Truth have a point."Sure, not..."I think people like Truth have a point."<BR/><BR/>Sure, not all Mestizos were criminals, but the gangsters in WS made it easy for greedy Mexicans to game the system. That "Truth" would ever state anything sensible is not possible. He is a constant nuisance around here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67737787862417301132009-04-12T06:05:00.000-07:002009-04-12T06:05:00.000-07:00"It's hard to imagine a situation where we would e..."It's hard to imagine a situation where we would ever do business with Citibank again."<BR/><BR/><BR/>I'm still hoping that Citibank folds so that your statement becomes a corollary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36240387482482393102009-04-12T04:08:00.000-07:002009-04-12T04:08:00.000-07:00http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Barack_Obam...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Barack_Obama<BR/><BR/>Obama has 7 siblings. (In Dreams Obama wrote 2 of his so-called brothers are suspected of not being Sr.'s. Includes that particular gentleman.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37336162242755772662009-04-12T03:39:00.000-07:002009-04-12T03:39:00.000-07:00"I think people like Truth have a point. The activ..."I think people like Truth have a point. The activities described in that article are good old fashioned fraud. One could be agnostic, or even hostile, to the whole idea of HBD and still vigorously object to the activities that were described."<BR/><BR/>But why make it easier by an order or magnitude through not enforcing reasonable immigration laws? Or would that be racist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47673566055375662432009-04-12T02:38:00.000-07:002009-04-12T02:38:00.000-07:00...turned around and did cash-out refi’s, then fle...<I>...turned around and did cash-out refi’s, then fled the country.</I><BR/><BR/>One more example of our country being looted.rightsaidfrednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24526633462287832452009-04-12T01:35:00.000-07:002009-04-12T01:35:00.000-07:00OT but a must, must read for Steve and his fans, f...OT but a must, must read for Steve and his fans, from <I>News of the World</I> via Drudge:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/260464/Barrack-Obama-brother-Samson-Obama-refused-entry-to-UK-over-allegations-of-attempted-sex-attack-on-young-girl.html" REL="nofollow">Obama brother accused of UK sex assault: <BR/>Samson denied British visa after incident with teen girl in Berkshire</A><BR/><BR/>Includes amusing picture of young B. Obama and one of his 11 half-brothers.CJnoreply@blogger.com