tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post4083881209641845768..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: NYT: Mexican-American "disinterest" in votingUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6069228296985155462014-04-01T11:05:17.320-07:002014-04-01T11:05:17.320-07:00At some point in the future, these kids will be re...At some point in the future, these kids will be registered voters, and some one will do their voting.<br /> Blacks who moved from the south to Chicago found that they did not have to sit all day to become a voter. The precinct captain would register them and do their voting. They didn't have to even go to the polling booth to vote straight democratic. It would be done for them. Chicago was truly the promised land!<br /> Steve, now you know why your father-in-law was driven from Austin. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65593434928686308502014-04-01T06:22:00.972-07:002014-04-01T06:22:00.972-07:00In one sense, the less latinos vote, the more powe...In one sense, the less latinos vote, the more powerful latino politicians will become. Just by being here, they create rotten districts and therefore safe seats for latino pols. And the fewer actual voters that a politican has to appeal to, the easier and cheaper it is for him to win reelection.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90372370883369629122014-04-01T03:18:12.282-07:002014-04-01T03:18:12.282-07:00Also, your example is pathetic. It makes no sense....Also, your example is pathetic. It makes no sense. Has anyone ever used the word 'affected' to mean the opposite of 'disaffected'? <br /><br />Gilbert P<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44741063126759405392014-04-01T03:12:22.953-07:002014-04-01T03:12:22.953-07:00"I'm as much a stickler for correct usage..."I'm as much a stickler for correct usage as anyone, but I'd bet that good and pragmatic writers like Twain would agree with me that the disinterested/uninterested distinction is useless overkill. 'Dis' should impart the same meaning before 'interested' that it does before 'affected'. 'Impartial' is a much better word for fair or evenhanded. By the way, in a Who/Whom society you English teachers are obsolete anyway."<br /><br />No. The absurdity of thinking the two words are interchangeable is easily shown. Consider the headline: 'Single mothers disinterested in welfare debate.'<br /><br />Gilbert P<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48364034638032909112014-04-01T00:54:27.546-07:002014-04-01T00:54:27.546-07:00+1 on its being purposeful. NYT wouldn't want ...+1 on its being purposeful. NYT wouldn't want to say that a "good" group such as Mexicans is *uninterested* in a "good" thing such as voting.<br /><br />The only place I read the Times is here.Miguel S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13618851011049039332014-03-31T18:21:18.243-07:002014-03-31T18:21:18.243-07:00"Even in his prime that supposed master of En..."Even in his prime that supposed master of English William F. Buckley had a tenuous grasp of this distinction. <br /><br />(eg in the Chomsky debate he says "uninterested" before correcting himself to say "disinterested"...of course he may have been especially flustered on that day as Chomsky just brutalized Buckley on the latter's own television show)."<br /><br />Buckley has a history of butchering words. Perhaps his greatest influence is his use of "oxymoron" for "contradiction."<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OxymoronAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17109613224163992552014-03-31T17:41:02.166-07:002014-03-31T17:41:02.166-07:00I’m with anon from 5:07 and Rohan Swee.
Lamentin...I’m with anon from 5:07 and Rohan Swee. <br /><br />Lamenting the loss of ‘disinterested’ is more than just lexicographical nostalgia. The concept of the disinterested observer has been mocked by the postmodernists for so long now that aiming at such an ideal has ‘progressed’ from merely risible to almost inconceivable. <br /><br />Kicking aside the sad remains of western rationality and rule of law just clears the way for <i>Who? Whom?</i>.<br />TheLRCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74613058895323418012014-03-31T17:26:50.623-07:002014-03-31T17:26:50.623-07:00Even in his prime that supposed master of English ...Even in his prime that supposed master of English William F. Buckley had a tenuous grasp of this distinction. <br /><br />(eg in the Chomsky debate he says "uninterested" before correcting himself to say "disinterested"...of course he may have been especially flustered on that day as Chomsky just brutalized Buckley on the latter's own television show).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15204396757411025742014-03-31T17:22:38.709-07:002014-03-31T17:22:38.709-07:00By the way, in a Who/Whom society you English teac...<i>By the way, in a Who/Whom society you English teachers are obsolete anyway.</i> <br /><br />I know you're driving at something else, but I'll at least mention that I'm a chemistry teacher, but I still expect proper English in my room, and I find odd ways of making other subjects part of my class.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72255789140185628502014-03-31T16:49:22.620-07:002014-03-31T16:49:22.620-07:00Yeah, it's been like forever since I've re...Yeah, it's been like forever since I've read his highly intelligent and entirely fictional comments. I enjoy reading about all 73 careers he's had in his 47 or 58 or 75 or 93 years on this earth. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41446452868617403412014-03-31T16:19:00.479-07:002014-03-31T16:19:00.479-07:00I'm as much a stickler for correct usage as an...I'm as much a stickler for correct usage as anyone, but I'd bet that good and pragmatic writers like Twain would agree with me that the disinterested/uninterested distinction is useless overkill. 'Dis' should impart the same meaning before 'interested' that it does before 'affected'. 'Impartial' is a much better word for fair or evenhanded. By the way, in a Who/Whom society you English teachers are obsolete anyway.nice cakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43221541578412737612014-03-31T16:01:39.463-07:002014-03-31T16:01:39.463-07:00Not Mexican-Americans. Just Mexicans. Here of all ...Not Mexican-Americans. Just Mexicans. Here of all places there's no need for pretense. St. Beenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84509786810210117132014-03-31T15:51:19.101-07:002014-03-31T15:51:19.101-07:00Here's an idea that doesn't seem to get en...Here's an idea that doesn't seem to get enough attention: many hispanics in America live in what amounts to a parallel society within a society, culturally speaking. This basic fact may seem so obvious as to hardly merit a mention, but the implications are deep, and fascinating. How do ideas and mores get pushed in modern America? Primarily, through the media, and also the schools. What are these institutions all about? Cultural Marxism 24/7, of course. Thanks to the language barrier, and the related cultural barrier, many hispanics are less hooked into these institutions than are longer-standing Americans, and hence less assimilated into the latest tenets and minutia of the church of cultural Marxism. They may intuitively know that their host nation is weak, but they cannot be fully whipped up into activism and intellectual radicalism, as their handlers would like. Sure, Unavision gives them a good dose of grievance mongering, and democrats will bus as many of them as they can into the voting booths, but the assimilation only goes so far. On top of all this, for many hispanics, literacy, even in Spanish, is an issue, and as Steve has repeatedly pointed out, hispanic culture is not reading culture, anyways. That's another set of circumstances that partially shields hispanics from the full-on monte of PC propaganda and university-sponsored brainwashing. What's remarkable is that some Hispanic immigrants don't even speak Spanish, but indigenous languages instead, leaving them further culturally isolated, further down the totem pole, so to speak (this set, for now, may not be likely to attain citizenship and vote, but mere residence is enough to affect culture, and they ain't affecting much). Another thing to consider: hispanics tend to live amongst other hispanics, in hispanic communities. Their day-to-day world is, again, largely experienced in a parallel society within a society, with little interaction with "respectable" society.<br /><br />Considering the environment of institutionally ensconced cultural Marxism in America today, perhaps it's a good thing indeed that we haven't fully assimilated these newest denizens from south of the border. Lower rates of political participation amongst them is probably the best thing for which we can hope.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25761772217503055332014-03-31T15:11:23.670-07:002014-03-31T15:11:23.670-07:00OT, has anyone seen Albertosaurus (Pat)? It seems...OT, has anyone seen Albertosaurus (Pat)? It seems like forever since I've seen one of his cogent comments.<br /><br />I hope he hasn't been the victim of some terrible BSDM accident!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50786938108965839972014-03-31T14:26:58.826-07:002014-03-31T14:26:58.826-07:00What a strange, strange exotic place New York is.
...What a strange, strange exotic place New York is.<br /><br />Imagine being born in Manhattan and raised there. You're only meaningful contact with nature is Central Park!<br /><br />And there are generations that have passed that way. Born in Manhattan, died and Manhattan, having children and grandchildren in Manhattan!<br /><br />The emasculation, the twisted sense of human desires and instincts! The elevation of symbols, technique, numbers, words, and money to absolute reality. My God, my God!Haciendanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52574636494161134862014-03-31T13:42:31.466-07:002014-03-31T13:42:31.466-07:00Who's rioting in Albequerque? (and why did the...Who's rioting in Albequerque? (and why did the guy need to leave his shack?) <br /><br />http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10735297/Riot-police-clash-with-Albuquerque-protesters-after-officers-kill-homeless-man.html<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-11299374722666202762014-03-31T13:32:41.284-07:002014-03-31T13:32:41.284-07:00If the Mexican youths aren't interested in vot...If the Mexican youths aren't interested in voting that means the Mexican youths, contrary to the leftist line, don't feel oppressed. Things are pretty damned good for them in gringoland, all BS to the contrary notwithstanding.ricpichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01321511130788764861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28576935995450318822014-03-31T13:17:25.323-07:002014-03-31T13:17:25.323-07:00So the GOP strategy ought to be to entice Latinos ...So the GOP strategy ought to be to entice Latinos already in the US to move to red states?Dave Pinsenhttp://twitter.com/dpinsennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69320077138540494682014-03-31T13:09:33.356-07:002014-03-31T13:09:33.356-07:00These Mexicans are clearly Caplanite libertarians ...These Mexicans are clearly Caplanite libertarians who have grasped the infinitesimally low marginal utility of voting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87151366661631764412014-03-31T12:37:00.063-07:002014-03-31T12:37:00.063-07:00Grey Enlightenment: There are a lot of mexican ame...Grey Enlightenment: There are a lot of mexican american so there are lots of mexican american voters even if their overall voting rate is low. <br /><br />Also increasing the number of of mexican american voters increases both parties pandering to them which decreases white voting rate. So it may be that with those two effects together it's essentially the same as if mexican americans voted at the same rate as whites.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37762684271447154722014-03-31T12:36:59.568-07:002014-03-31T12:36:59.568-07:00Grey Enlightenment: There are a lot of mexican ame...Grey Enlightenment: There are a lot of mexican american so there are lots of mexican american voters even if their overall voting rate is low. <br /><br />Also increasing the number of of mexican american voters increases both parties pandering to them which decreases white voting rate. So it may be that with those two effects together it's essentially the same as if mexican americans voted at the same rate as whites.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47986902327537160852014-03-31T11:56:31.129-07:002014-03-31T11:56:31.129-07:00I would have thought that capturing the difference...I would have thought that capturing the difference between dis and un-interested is the kind of signature moment an editor dreams about, like my dog dreaming about lame squirrels. Eric Falkensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07243687157322033496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6455734192207399762014-03-31T11:55:58.553-07:002014-03-31T11:55:58.553-07:00I was just thinking today how uninterested low-IQ ...I was just thinking today how uninterested low-IQ people are in voting or politics generally. The whole subject practically offends them. They're insecure and can't keep up with the issues or names. <br /><br />Why on earth would you want such people deciding the future of the country.<br /><br />Don't get me started on the "brighter" ones who think they're up on politics but can't be bothered with state or local. "I'm a big-picture guy" one told me.carolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23781159442934674852014-03-31T11:44:46.710-07:002014-03-31T11:44:46.710-07:00"So immigration reform is motivated by cheap ..."So immigration reform is motivated by cheap labor instead of votes. Cheap labor versus cheap votes"<br /><br />You seriously didn't know this? The Republicans' masters want the cheap labor and the Democrats want the cheap votes.<br /><br />I don't see why a WN/citizenist/nationalist has any regard for big business at this point.SFGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72436911944452200502014-03-31T11:44:18.733-07:002014-03-31T11:44:18.733-07:00They cam to America to live off the white man.
...They cam to America to live off the white man. <br /><br />Maybe they realize that messing with the white man's culture will only give them Mexico Norte.Big Billnoreply@blogger.com