tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post4438964910919543291..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: White Triumphalism in Gentrifying D.C.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43244880451045587692011-09-26T23:32:24.988-07:002011-09-26T23:32:24.988-07:00Every man in that photo looks like a slob.
Roiss...Every man in that photo looks like a slob. <br /><br />Roissy had fun with the People of Walmart site, but this DC crowd looks nearly as lame. Looks like the yuppies are stuffing their faces with big macs and donuts too.<br /><br />Whatever happened to posture and collars on shirts. Auster site recently presented photographic proof that the bums in 1940 were better dressed than many professionals are today.<br /><br />And nice pallor! Not really even white anymore with a lot of these people. It's the green blue gray yellowish skin tone of the truly sunlight deficient lefty hipster.<br /><br />But that's not how you can tell it's not California.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8803822330621092802011-09-22T13:18:45.322-07:002011-09-22T13:18:45.322-07:00Mark:
"As a gay man who lived in DC around th...Mark:<br />"As a gay man who lived in DC around the turn of the century and was somewhat active in this gentrifying along with my homo friends, I would just like to say to any white hipsters living in D.C. and currently reading this blog... YOU'RE WELCOME."<br /><br />LOL. :) You win the thread!Simon in Londonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15476172358320714752011-09-22T04:54:53.465-07:002011-09-22T04:54:53.465-07:00"apparently thinking that poor blacks are too..."apparently thinking that poor blacks are too stupid to realize you are mocking their demographic defeat"<br /><br />Hmm, how many 16 year old black youths are going to make the association between this T-shirt and a figure from an era before they were born, and make the conceptual leap to "He's mocking us! Get him!"? <br /><br />I think the hipsters may have the right of it here, Steve. If they are attacked it'll be for walking-while-white (did I just invent that?), not for the T-shirts.Simon in Londonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37844971866453713832011-09-21T23:57:57.355-07:002011-09-21T23:57:57.355-07:00Of corollary of the t-shirts in DC is the retro Bu...<i>Of corollary of the t-shirts in DC is the retro Buddy Holly/Betty Page look of the hip, ironic whites in the Bay Area and Silver Lake. <br /><br />The unstated message is a celebration of and longing for when the country was 90% white and gender roles were easier to understand. But of course they vote for Obama, and drink Manhattans in bars where the cliental is virtually all white.</i><br /><br />1990 called, it wants its observation back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53346697402254486742011-09-21T22:46:22.664-07:002011-09-21T22:46:22.664-07:00Marc B said...
Ironic distance has been their spe...Marc B said... <br />Ironic distance has been their speciality ... <br />...bunch of phonies unfit for the real world. <br /><br />Despite playing in several bands at clubs they frequent and having similar tastes in general, I've generally disliked them ...<br />---<br />Interesting comment. I'm quite the right winger but my taste in music and arts in general implies that I sort of hang out with those folks.<br />Sometimes I wonder just what has the typical "snarky,cynical,ironic" genderqueer hipster been thru in life to justify that outlook.<br />Have they been hugely disappointed after committing fully to some cause ? Most likely not. Posers...ogunsironhttp://www.gmail.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63389074738643824112011-09-21T20:52:10.407-07:002011-09-21T20:52:10.407-07:00As a gay man who lived in DC around the turn of th...As a gay man who lived in DC around the turn of the century and was somewhat active in this gentrifying along with my homo friends, I would just like to say to any white hipsters living in D.C. and currently reading this blog... YOU'RE WELCOME. <br /><br />(We tried to do the same in Baltimore but it was too far gone.)Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07327785256936928799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36920748744080320562011-09-21T20:31:24.360-07:002011-09-21T20:31:24.360-07:00"No matter how dominant or triumphant whites ..."No matter how dominant or triumphant whites may become in DC (and frankly at present that's pure fiction which barely stands a chance of becoming the case in future) no black will ever walk the streets there in fear for his life simply by virtue of being black. The reverse will never be the case even should whites "triumph." That's the urban world we live in now. All else is fantasy."<br /><br />Maybe not in DC. Where I lived, I was scared of walking around certain places for fear of being attacked for being Black, because I had actually faced racial intimidation and harassment. It happened in rural Georgia. In many cities, it was often the case that if you were Black in a certain part of town, you could get attacked or murdered.mr_evergreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08343440218481916947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49974337945854657062011-09-21T18:27:39.289-07:002011-09-21T18:27:39.289-07:00No matter how dominant or triumphant whites may be...No matter how dominant or triumphant whites may become in DC (and frankly at present that's pure fiction which barely stands a chance of becoming the case in future) no black will ever walk the streets there in fear for his life simply by virtue of being black. The reverse will never be the case even should whites "triumph." <i>That's</i> the urban world we live in now. All else is fantasy.ricpichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01321511130788764861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19261192765160147662011-09-21T18:22:58.310-07:002011-09-21T18:22:58.310-07:00Just when I congratulated myself on an original an...Just when I congratulated myself on an original analysis I came across somebody who arrived at (more or less) the same conclusion in 2007<br /><br />http://passionweiss.com/2007/10/24/we-arent-family-the-hipster-willie-stargell/ELVISNIXON.comhttp://www.elvisnixon.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76060834524987881262011-09-21T18:20:24.503-07:002011-09-21T18:20:24.503-07:00Jody the answer is that the Pittsburgh Pirates are...Jody the answer is that the Pittsburgh Pirates are linked to the high water mark of American Culture that is simultaneously revered and loathed by the hipster.<br /><br />Kent Tekulve with that wonderful,funky leg kick wind up, Willie Stargell with the "We Are Family" theme (after the death of disco) represents a country bereft of irony<br /><br />Hence the irony<br /><br />Look at the hat in all it's context and behold the glory of hipster OCD:<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/3m3a3nrELVISNIXON.comhttp://www.elvisnixon.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5407456858719490292011-09-21T17:19:25.460-07:002011-09-21T17:19:25.460-07:00is this not akin to wearing a detroit lions shirt?...<i>is this not akin to wearing a detroit lions shirt?</i><br /><br />The Lions have the best young talent in the NFL. Besides football players wear jerseys, not shirts.Defensive in Motownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18398486081309212412011-09-21T16:14:19.918-07:002011-09-21T16:14:19.918-07:00the greatest mystery of our time: why the pittsbur...the greatest mystery of our time: why the pittsburgh pirates baseball hat remains popular.<br /><br />is this not akin to wearing a detroit lions shirt?jodynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87101987695402543532011-09-21T16:02:26.858-07:002011-09-21T16:02:26.858-07:00Did you know: there is actually such a thing as hi...Did you know: there is actually such a thing as <i>hipster racism</i>. A comment on my Facebook feed informed me of it but yesterday. It is doubtless the invention of Diversity, Inc., who engineered it in order to scare and control gutless, anti-racist SWPL's. Since the only reason anyone would want to mock the wild and wacky antics of Marion Barry is because of a deep seated, subconscious hatred of blacks.Cyprian Korzeniowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10461526220229060949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76883496294117105012011-09-21T15:51:45.196-07:002011-09-21T15:51:45.196-07:00We rub our noses in retaking D.C. by wearing Mario...We rub our noses in retaking D.C. by wearing Marion Barry shirts, they rub our noses in overrunning the country by electing Barack Obama.<br /><br />Someone's got the better end of the deal, but I'm not sure who (/sarcasm).<br /><br />Strikes me that if we ever do retake the country, the (minimal) courage it takes to wear these shirts will not be optional. Nevertheless, I plan to be packing underneath.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55391690107845289932011-09-21T15:45:31.533-07:002011-09-21T15:45:31.533-07:00My experience with black people of average intelli...My experience with black people of average intelligence (that is, average intelligence for blacks) is that they are mostly irony-immune.<br /><br />As for blacks attacking whites, the provocation is the white skin more than the clothing on it.Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19733056841448243722011-09-21T15:30:36.675-07:002011-09-21T15:30:36.675-07:00Too bad no one noticed the other joke about Baltim...Too bad no one noticed the other joke about Baltimore.<br /><br />It's called Charm City by the locals. http://www.examiner.com/religion-culture-in-baltimore/atonementRoger Chailletnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58495443285972553462011-09-21T11:23:06.461-07:002011-09-21T11:23:06.461-07:00Ironic distance has been their speciality since th...Ironic distance has been their speciality since the early 1990's (before that they at least were focused at being on the cutting edge of art, music, film, fashion, etc), and it's one of the many reasons I've never been partial to them. They come across as a bunch of phonies unfit for the real world. <br /><br />Despite playing in several bands at clubs they frequent and having similar tastes in general, I've generally disliked them enough not bother deciphering if they are being sincere. Most things are usually just a self-referential wink wink for them. They'll find out how well those shirts play in the hood when they go for some fried fish at Horace and Dickey's.Marc Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15526121114466617234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21169518974968496422011-09-21T10:28:48.645-07:002011-09-21T10:28:48.645-07:00When I lived in DC, young whites got pretty realis...When I lived in DC, young whites got pretty realistic pretty fast. Even at the height of the "anti-racist" riots at Columbia in 1968, you didn't see many sophomores strolling down the cliff, in Harlem.<br /><br />It just takes a friend of a friend getting mugged or worse to create realism.<br /><br />Unfortunately, the realism doesn't extend to politics. So there are plenty of white liberals in DC who wouldn't think of strolling in Anacostia, who still think "diversity" is hunky-dory. Without the black vote for Obama, they'd be working in Wal-Mart in Dubuque.Grumpy Old Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06885003732996511989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63779669850248979662011-09-21T10:28:21.177-07:002011-09-21T10:28:21.177-07:00Irony requires a sense of humor.
Humor requires i...Irony requires a sense of humor.<br /><br />Humor requires intelligence<br />Folks with low intelligence tend to see everything literally- hence "politically correct" apologies are constantly demanded for offending some moron who imply doesn't get the joke <br /><br />* See the Tracy Morgan and Katt Williams controversies for the latest examples of this phenomenonELVISNIXON.comhttp://www.elvisnixon.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16543195815087871762011-09-21T10:22:35.078-07:002011-09-21T10:22:35.078-07:00Yeah I lived a couple blocks from H street in the ...Yeah I lived a couple blocks from H street in the 70s and 80s and it is real different now. Back then I would go to the plumbing supply store on H and all the natives would shield their eyes from the glare of my face. <br />The Post would have resurgence and renewal articles every five years or so but nothing really took, it stayed the same old burned out hulk of a forgotten black shopping district. Things are different now, the riots were in '68 and only now has H Street come around. About two months ago I was driving out H about midnight one Friday night and I was amazed to see the East end of the street crowded and hopping with whites. You would think redevelopment would come in from the west, where the SEC building is but no, all the white bars are on the East end.<br /><br />As far as the t-shirt is concerned, I think street blacks are all about body language and tone of voice. The angle of your swagger, a level tone of voice mean far more than some shit on a shirt. Semiotic facetiousness is for white pussies.Conatushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12543138570489872681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4886047621125415902011-09-21T10:16:18.898-07:002011-09-21T10:16:18.898-07:00That's pretty risky advice. A few years ago I ...<i>That's pretty risky advice. A few years ago I saw a guy get stabbed by a 'youth' for telling him not to litter. He lived, thankfully.</i> <br /><br />My brother [who is also a reader here at iSteve] knows a guy whose own brother was accosted by a "vibrant" ute, in a very posh California coastal town, and who stood down the "vibrant" ute with some high school wrestling maneuvers [and maybe a little jujitsu].<br /><br />The "vibrant" ute then went back to his, ah, "vibrant-mobile", grabbed a knife, returned to the scene, and thrust the knife in the poor dude's neck.<br /><br />So now my brother knows someone whose own brother was murdered - right there on the streets of a very posh California coastal town.<br /><br />Moral of the story: <a href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_brings_a_gun_to_a_knife_fight.html" rel="nofollow">RKBA, RKBA, RKBA</a>...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62241752139254886902011-09-21T09:58:45.517-07:002011-09-21T09:58:45.517-07:00"Yglesias is well aware of my surmises. He ha..."Yglesias is well aware of my surmises. He has had plenty of time to deny them if they aren't true."<br /><br />Aww, are someone's mash notes being returned to sender?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-89859410068748995442011-09-21T09:48:08.401-07:002011-09-21T09:48:08.401-07:00It's a White thing - you wouldn't understa...It's a White thing - you wouldn't understand.Dutch Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02687679491743923216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82385620701089393482011-09-21T08:07:32.761-07:002011-09-21T08:07:32.761-07:00Steve: First white flight (to Ballamer Cowny), the...Steve: First white flight (to Ballamer Cowny), then all the black people who can (black flight?), now all the poor black people are going to DC? Ballamer Ciddy's losin' everybody. :( Soon we'll just have the nice houses in Rolan' Park, every other house will have plywood on the front of it.<br /><br /><i>Alicia said...<br />Barry ... is still on the Council.</i><br />You HAVE to be kidding me... *clickityclickityinternetclickity* ...what is wrong with DC?<br /><br />(<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Barry" rel="nofollow">Reading further</a>, he's a really brainy guy. I couldn't see his smarts through all the crack smoke swirling around him. Still, black people it's time to accept it: Just because he's black and smart doesn't mean he isn't stupid. Doesn't mean he's "your guy." He's a moronic crackhead FFS.)Jacob Robersonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55788749995000418842011-09-21T07:54:36.769-07:002011-09-21T07:54:36.769-07:00A)Maybe those who attacked Yglesias had some quibb...A)Maybe those who attacked Yglesias had some quibbles with his blog?B)The T-shirt,and supposed ignorance about Marion Barry among the young("Bitch set me UP!" will always be a great line) reminds me of a story about the LA/Rodney King rioots,when a white reporter asked a black "young person" why he was rioting,the kid replied,"For Martin Luther King!" Was HE being ironic?? Me,I wouldnt wear the shirt!!joshnoreply@blogger.com