tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post4600197745348732664..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Gregory Clark on "Surnames and the Laws of Social Mobility"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger93125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80267249489537144972014-03-25T10:53:11.945-07:002014-03-25T10:53:11.945-07:00A review of some specific high-status surnames are...A review of some specific high-status surnames are on this blog, and Clark's methods are highlighted in his book "The Son also Rises". <br /><br />http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/21/your-fate-thank-your-ancestors/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00915921529971035933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9171465652052613962014-03-25T10:50:24.693-07:002014-03-25T10:50:24.693-07:00It is important to note, that when using one of Cl...It is important to note, that when using one of Clark's methods of comparing surnames in the census database to surnames in the listing of American physicians, the name Darcy only appears about 4-5 per thousand among American physicians, while above-average, is not impressive. It is miniscule when you compare it to 12.6 per thousand for Owusu (a high-status African surname), 21 for Katz (Ashkenazi Rabbis), and 112 for some Indian Surnames. (And I'd like to add, 10 per thousand for my own, lol)<br /><br />It is important to note that India had some of the most stringent caste systems in history, and most high-IQ Indians have Brahmin surnames. The result seems to benefit only the elites, while India as a whole is economically and educationally lagging. This should be a lesson if people are thinking of making social policies revolving off of Clark's data. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00915921529971035933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41713611327569567652012-10-24T06:15:48.119-07:002012-10-24T06:15:48.119-07:00This reminds me a little of a study which purporte...This reminds me a little of a study which purported to show that there was a significant surname gap between Irish supporters of Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil. Fine Gael supporters apparently have a higher proportion of Norman/Old English surnames, while Fianna Fáil supporters tend to have more Gaelic surnames.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25858028112462051022012-10-24T03:40:36.961-07:002012-10-24T03:40:36.961-07:00There may also be a significant % of Jews who have...There may also be a significant % of Jews who have angliciased their surnames, or kids of anglo-jewish couples.neil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58620262977287712522012-10-23T20:36:52.026-07:002012-10-23T20:36:52.026-07:00Hopefully Steve none of your younger readers have ...Hopefully Steve none of your younger readers have been discouraged from the useful work of OBGYN by some of the foregoing comments, even my negative jackpot of bodily fluids should not deter in light of the miracle of human life - as a veteran of dozens of traumatic hospital nights I think the nadir might be the following list- - amniotic fluid (a healthy smell) plus mom's blood plus her spilling urine and liquified strained pregnantlady feces plus sweat plus caul moisture and cord moisture and mom has been crying with a runny nose for an hour and wiping her hand everywhere and the smell of pregnancy-induced linen-staining hehorrhoidal blood and gastric burps is in the mix and possibly a fungal and bacterial infection or two and when its over one (i.e.o.b.g.y.n.)gets to shake the hand of "dad" who while, as the impregnator of a female, is at least likely not in the bottom 5 percent of men, still is likely to be in the least likely fifty percent of males to successfully wash their hands after wiping emotional eyes and nose, rubbing ear, scratching scrotum, and even (much earlier in the day) massaging in sad self-pleasure the pregnancy-deprived male genital organ, complete with smegma and pelvic-congestion prostate fluid, etcetera, but, nevertheless, human life is precious as has been said a million times... middleaged vetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-379011248975645152012-10-23T01:24:47.653-07:002012-10-23T01:24:47.653-07:00Well, Anonymous, so do nurses.Well, Anonymous, so do nurses.Julian O'Deahttp://julianodea.blogspot.com.au/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57694555629774283042012-10-22T22:14:40.850-07:002012-10-22T22:14:40.850-07:00"Yes, I agree with the above comment that the..."Yes, I agree with the above comment that the day-to-day practice of medicine is "icky".<br /><br />I have often wondered why medicine has such high status. Given the ickiness."<br /><br />There was a man who was willing to face the ickiness of washing his follower's feet, and it only enhanced his prestige.<br /><br />Doctors are the scientists who are willing to cater to the needs of their inferiors and for that we appreciate them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51847096070361584482012-10-22T21:10:20.366-07:002012-10-22T21:10:20.366-07:00Jonathan Harris, who played Dr Smith on Lost in Sp...Jonathan Harris, who played Dr Smith on Lost in Space, was of Russian Jewish origin. Family name was Charasuchin.<br /><br /> Julian O'Deahttp://julianodea.blogspot.com.au/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42794501521085608502012-10-22T20:38:06.405-07:002012-10-22T20:38:06.405-07:00Yes, I agree with the above comment that the day-t...Yes, I agree with the above comment that the day-to-day practice of medicine is "icky".<br /><br />I have often wondered why medicine has such high status. Given the ickiness.Julian O'Deahttp://julianodea.blogspot.com.au/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5369489090811591942012-10-22T16:31:03.623-07:002012-10-22T16:31:03.623-07:00He said he was, and I paraphrase, "making is ...He said he was, and I paraphrase, "making is simple for you" Sviggy; I think that's a thinly-veiled insult at your IQ!Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47614169996543836112012-10-22T16:16:45.811-07:002012-10-22T16:16:45.811-07:00"Based on income, the entertainer is worth fa..."Based on income, the entertainer is worth far more. The doctor is providing a far more valuable service, but the entertainer is servicing far more people."<br /><br />The real issue is that the Hollywood producer has way more utility to the tribe than a doctor because of the former's ability to influence people.ATBOTLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43624169974854396582012-10-22T09:58:58.097-07:002012-10-22T09:58:58.097-07:00Svigor,
Read Goldberg, he's good. That's ...<i>Svigor,<br /><br />Read Goldberg, he's good. That's as simple as I'm gonna make it for ya.</i><br /><br />Yeah, I got that part, thanks for the recommendation. Was just trying to figure out what the sentence preceding the parentheses was supposed to mean. Svigorhttp://svigor.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21578781493155701782012-10-22T09:22:48.512-07:002012-10-22T09:22:48.512-07:00What is the correlation between a surname and the ...What is the correlation between a surname and the ethnicity of its bearer? Anyone have a number?<br /><br />I'll help you out. It has be greater than 0 and less than 1. Seriously, someone has done a study of this, right?Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6299503310687401532012-10-22T08:11:14.805-07:002012-10-22T08:11:14.805-07:00Interestingly, Roger Sterling made a crack about H...<i>Interestingly, Roger Sterling made a crack about Harris not being his real name (i.e., that he was a Jewish guy who had changed his name).</i><br /><br />As if there were something surprising about a Jew being named Harris? <br /><br />David Harris is the Executive Director of the American Jewish Committee. <i>Another </i>David Harris is President and CEO of the National Jewish Democratic Council.ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16306251801581024702012-10-22T07:17:02.498-07:002012-10-22T07:17:02.498-07:00"Anonymous said...
What I mainly see going t..."Anonymous said...<br /><br />What I mainly see going to federal court are patent and copyright disputes and banks evicting people they've foreclosed on."<br /><br />Why would malpractice cases show up in a federal court? Why would anyone expect to see them there?<br /><br />"In state court, car accidents and credit card companies garnishing people's wages are the main type of civil case."<br /><br />Nobody ever said malpractice cases dominated the dockets in local courts - only that their effects are baleful.<br /><br />I know of many doctors who say that people trying to win the malpractice lottery are a big problem - for doctors individually, and for the medical profession as a whole. You - a lawyer - say it isn't.<br /><br />Who do you think most people are going to believe?Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30151205011935308472012-10-21T20:46:29.325-07:002012-10-21T20:46:29.325-07:00"I am only stating facts. When a profession b...<i>"I am only stating facts. When a profession becomes significantly female, it loses prestige. This may not be right, it just is."</i><br /><br />Quite likely this is so because female-dominated professions tend to get paid less. But ascribing lower female wages to social prejudice, or some other moral failing of society's, is untenable.<br /><br />They can be explained by an economic theory, the "contingent workforce theory".<br /><br />In the case of women, the key factor is that most women get married and have kids. Typically, the man of the house will work full time, while the woman may want some flexibility to drop out of paid work for a few years or work part time. No such options for the man: as husband and father, he has to work full time. (The apparent exceptions are mostly men whose careers have failed.)<br /><br />How does this lead to lower wages for women? Aren't women owed the same wages as men for work equal value? Shouldn't they demand them? <br /><br />One explanation is that these part-time-working or work-life-balance-seeking women lack the single-minded focus needed to get ahead, the way their husbands do, so in fact their work is not of equal value. There may be something in this, but it's NOT what the contingent-workforce theory says.<br /><br />The CWT says they get paid less simply because they can afford to get paid less. A woman who's sharing her husband's full-time income may WANT to be paid at the same rate as the average worker, but she can AFFORD to be paid at a lower rate. Contingent (e.g., part-time, flexible) workers like these women thus bid down the price of labour in the markets they participate in. A profession with lots of such women in it will tend to have depressed wages relative to other professions requiring the same skills etc.<br /><br />It's hard luck for people in those professions who don't have a partner's income to share, particularly for those who really need a full family wage, like single parents. But remember that people do not get paid what they deserve, either in an absolute sense (if there is such a thing) or relative to other workers. In general, they get paid the minimum the employer can get away with paying them. And that depends on the characteristics of a given labour market.<br /><br />CennbeorcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13394283656374186902012-10-21T20:00:48.536-07:002012-10-21T20:00:48.536-07:00Anonymous 10/21/12 2:08 PM wrote:
but when I see ...Anonymous 10/21/12 2:08 PM wrote:<br /><br /><i>but when I see 75 year old MDs still working, I always assume that they've squandered all their retirement money NBA-style or through drug abuse or have do-nothing kids that they're supporting.</i><br /><br />A lot of doctors devote so much time and effort to their careers that they have no lives outside of work. Why should someone retire if he has no hobbies or has a distant relationship with his wife and kids (if he even has a wife and kids)? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39765802103239901952012-10-21T19:05:22.725-07:002012-10-21T19:05:22.725-07:00@GLS
99% of Iyers have dropped the Iyer surname ...@GLS<br /><br />99% of Iyers have dropped the Iyer surname about 50 years ago, due to assaults from dravidianists<br /><br />If you go to google and type in the surname AND caste, you can decode about half the names<br /><br />In some areas, the middle name shows the caste, in some areas the first name shows the caste.<br /><br />Each caste has a series of names that they use about 80% of the time<br /><br />There is some over-lap<br /><br />Indians can decode caste often from name alone, it takes several years of immersion in the culture to decode<br /><br />Here are some famous Indian <br /><br />Lalu YADAV = Backward caste North Indian shepherd YADAV caste<br /><br />Ram Vilas PASWAN = Untouchable North Indian PASWAN caste<br /><br />Jaswant SINGH = North Indian Rajput upper caste<br /><br />Kalyan SINGH = Backward caste North Indian from Lodh caste<br /><br />Ajit SINGH = Jat Landlord<br /><br />All 3 are Singhs and from a distance both look like upper caste Rajput names<br /><br />Devi Lal = Jat Landlord<br /><br />Mamata BANNERJI = Bengali brahmin<br /><br />Buddhadev BHATTACHARYA = Bengali Brahmin<br /><br />Deve GOWDA = Karnataka Landlord<br /><br />YS.REDDY = Andhra Landlord of REDDY caste<br /><br />CB.NAIDU = Andhra Landlord of NAIDU caste<br /><br />Jagjit Singh ARORA = Sikh of Arora Merchant Caste<br /><br />KPS.GILL = Jat Sikh Landlord<br /><br />Manohar PARRIKAR = Goa Brahmin<br /><br />D'Souza = Goa Brahmin converted to Catholicism during Portuguese rule<br /><br />Keshubhai PATEL = Gujurat Landlord<br /><br />Surendra JAIN = Jain Merchant<br /><br />Arjun MUNDA = Forest tribal of Munda tribe<br /><br />Babulal MARANDI = Forest Tribal of Marandi tribe<br /><br />Lambodhar KHAND = Forest tribal of KHAND tribe<br /><br />Purno SANGMA = Mongoloid Tribal from Meghalaya<br /><br />Manisha KOIRALA = Nepali Brahmin<br /><br />Subash GHISING = Nepali Gurkha<br /><br />NARZARY = Mongoloid BODO tribal<br /><br />Suresh RAINA = Kashmiri Brahmin<br /><br />Pico IYER = Iyer tamil brahmin<br /><br />Ajit BISHNOI = Farmer of Bishnoi sect<br /><br />Rani MUKHERJI = Bengali brahmin<br /><br />Atal VAJPAYEE = North Indian brahmin<br /><br />V.SCINDIA = Royalty of the Maratha Scindia dynasty<br /><br />A.PAWAR = Maratha Landlord<br /><br />Mamata KULKARNI = Maharashtrian Brahmin<br /><br />Sachin TENDULKAR = Maharashtrian Brahminrec1manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08283145675242793064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80679967213350624472012-10-21T18:23:07.023-07:002012-10-21T18:23:07.023-07:00On a somewhat related note: the U.S. Census Bureau...On a somewhat related note: the U.S. Census Bureau provides data from Census 2000 showing every surname in the USA that was reported at least 100 times, along with the racial distribution of those claiming each name: <br /><br />http://www.census.gov/genealogy/www/data/2000surnames/index.htmlJackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05873725834964842463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43384704213390264332012-10-21T17:49:47.207-07:002012-10-21T17:49:47.207-07:00Svigor,
Read Goldberg, he's good. That's ...Svigor,<br /><br />Read Goldberg, he's good. That's as simple as I'm gonna make it for ya. <br /><br />Nurse,<br /><br />No one can predict the future. Some things never change. Some things do. <br /><br />Just looking at things as they are, and have been since the beginning of written history. This is not the first time women have poured into professions, only to see them lose prestige. They win a Pyrrhic victory - while improving services in many ways. I think pediatrics is much improved with women dominating the profession. Think of all the traumatized tykes of yesteryear!!Aging Hagnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-89762631460644593632012-10-21T17:28:22.738-07:002012-10-21T17:28:22.738-07:00Yeah, look at what Michael Jackson's Afrocentr...<i>Yeah, look at what Michael Jackson's Afrocentric health care preferences did for him.</i><br /><br />actually Michael Jackson was a Eurocentric extremist as evidenced by all his skin bleaching, cosmetic changes to his nose, lips, eyes, cheeks, choice of wigs, choice of high level employees, and the fact that he left his half-billion dollar fortune to 3 white kids. However Jackson was skilled at pretending to be afrocentric when he needed the black community to rally around him during child molestation accusations.<br /><br /><br />I believe the family alleged in a wrongful death lawsuit that it was AEG who chose the black doctor; if Jackson chose him, it was probably only because he was desperate for a doctor willing to hook him up with propofol.The Legendary Lindanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84827353237624383772012-10-21T16:23:42.620-07:002012-10-21T16:23:42.620-07:00"I am only stating facts. When a profession b..."I am only stating facts. When a profession becomes significantly female, it loses prestige. This may not be right, it just is."<br /><br />I get it. I got it. I just think it's foolish, and one of those human quirks that can adjust to changing circumstances. Men (and women) being physical (or spiritual beings having a physical experience as one of my friends claims) will always need something peculiar to their gender that gives them meaning and identity, but it doesn't have to be profession. That may be a cultural meme.<br />Personally I am more futuristic than some around here, more inclined to see a larger picture. You see, evolution (which most here espouse) does not mean 6000 bc-2100 ad frozen in time. It means constant change.<br /><br />That said, there are so many professions that have been formerly all-male, that are now mixed, that status seekers may have fewer and fewer places to run. I mean plumbing and astro-physics require very special aptitudes as well as desire for status.night nursenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2902110776784209622012-10-21T16:15:35.680-07:002012-10-21T16:15:35.680-07:00I don't see medicine as a trade for striving n...<i>I don't see medicine as a trade for striving new immigrants, unless Jews have been striving new immigrants for thousands of years. I will concede that it does fit the traditional "bag trade" classification, along with tailor, tinker, painter, paperhanger, jeweler - trades that allowed you to carry all of your tools on your back and to make a run for it if things got hot.</i><br /><br />You might as well add criminal to the list of Jewish Bag Trades. Organized crime was popular for Jewish immigrants in the 1920s, more so than for other ethnic groups. (Southern Italians were a special case, having a strong crime network in the old country.)<br /><br />I suspect that part of the striver / stingy mentality of the Old Jews was to keep their kids out of crime (and into more constructive respectable Bag Trades) and thus reduce goyish wrath.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65074361804312136332012-10-21T16:14:12.447-07:002012-10-21T16:14:12.447-07:00More African American doctors over the last few de...More African American doctors over the last few decades- has anyone looked at how this correlates with the rate of malpractice?Joseph Sperrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68468874614019888912012-10-21T16:07:34.808-07:002012-10-21T16:07:34.808-07:00Richard Waldman, M.D.
[maybe 50/50 here - there ar...<i>Richard Waldman, M.D.<br />[maybe 50/50 here - there are certainly plenty of non-Jewish "wild-men".]</i><br /><br />You mean woodsman (as in forest-man or forester) or more literally "wood-man".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com