tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post4851150564385413302..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: A certain lack of self-awarenessUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger110125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63089971544469422412011-01-12T20:16:27.282-08:002011-01-12T20:16:27.282-08:00My own view of what should be permitted unregulate...<i>My own view of what should be permitted unregulated ownership is anything approximating ordinary fighting arms of modern infantry.</i><br /><br />Same here. I think any arms that can be "borne" definitely qualify.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52278351177118485972011-01-12T18:27:58.664-08:002011-01-12T18:27:58.664-08:00IronRailsIronWeights:
The Second Amendment is a t...IronRailsIronWeights:<br /><br />The Second Amendment is a thinly-veiled enabler/warning against potential usurpation of power by a government grown tyrannical. It's as close as the framers could come in the "Bill" to expressing a "right to revolution" (which is always illegal--at least if it's unsuccessful).<br /><br />It's overall intent is that Americans never be deprived of the human right of self-defense, whether the threatening force came from abroad or at home.<br /><br />My own view of what should be permitted unregulated ownership is anything approximating ordinary fighting arms of modern infantry.Gene Bermannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-11808556744172095982011-01-12T12:47:10.404-08:002011-01-12T12:47:10.404-08:00"As for the Thornton case, whether or not he ...<i>"As for the Thornton case, whether or not he was specifically motivated by racial hate, this is certainly a plausible theory."<br /><br />T: Why, his girlfriend and BEST FRIEND were both white.<br /><br />"Maybe you don't keep up with Fox News? They tried to put spin out there that Loughlin was motivated by anti-Semitism... Since the evil nutjob's mom was Jewish, it kinda puts a dent in the evil White NAAAAHHHHTTSSSEEEEE anti-semitism motive."<br /><br />T: Well, I did read somewhere that Morris Dees and Tim Wise's moms were white. Don't quote me on that one until I do my research, though.</i>Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78728161631469595552011-01-11T17:40:34.989-08:002011-01-11T17:40:34.989-08:00"So, posts on isteve offering condolences to ..."So, posts on isteve offering condolences to the family of a left-ish congresswoman, being's how they're exceedingly unlikely to be read by the family, are kinda moot.<br /><br />Crowley just MIGHT be a closeted isteve reader, though"<br /><br />Oh, hey, good one.<br /><br />"I've never seen any evidence that the Knoxville killers are delusional."<br /><br />I have; they thought torturing and murdering two innocent people was proper behavior.<br /><br />"yes, emphasizing the purported racism of his victims is indeed intended to mitigate the extremity of his crimes and represent a quasi-reasonable excuse"<br /><br />The press did not EMPATHIZE anything, the REPEATED it. He actually said that to the 911 operator 30 seconds before he put a bullet in his temple. If there was any time a man would dispense with political correctness and let a few "honkies" and "crackas" fly, that would probably be it. Of course that's only my humble opinion.<br /><br />Although I have to said, a lot of black people would probably take the way you hold murder victims of blacks in so much more esteem than murder victims of whites as empowerment.<br /><br />black/white murder = GRRRRRRRRR!<br /><br />white/white murder = yawn.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91669086532129825172011-01-11T17:17:18.975-08:002011-01-11T17:17:18.975-08:00Whiskey, we need another viewpoint here, tell your...Whiskey, we need another viewpoint here, tell your boys that Loughner was just a frustrated beta who couldn't get chicks.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52484334726137315172011-01-11T17:13:54.710-08:002011-01-11T17:13:54.710-08:00"Maybe you don't keep up with Fox News? T..."Maybe you don't keep up with Fox News? They tried to put spin out there that Loughlin was motivated by anti-Semitism... Since the evil nutjob's mom was Jewish, it kinda puts a dent in the evil White NAAAAHHHHTTSSSEEEEE anti-semitism motive."<br /><br />Well, I did read somewhere that Morris Dees and Tim Wise's moms were white. Don't quote me on that one until I do my research, though.<br /><br />"We don't spend a lot of time worrying about Chinese-Americans committing murder either, cause they don't do it much."<br /><br />40 million blacks commit roughly 4,000 murders a year.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76545253072415316412011-01-11T16:50:16.831-08:002011-01-11T16:50:16.831-08:00"you're the one's downplaying mass mu..."you're the one's downplaying mass murder. There were a hell of a lot more responses (and posts, Steve-O) to some goofy black college professor getting arrested for disorderly conduct then on a post about the murder of a US congresswoman. I see the sole reason for that being the skin color of the accused in each case;<br /><br />anyone care to disagree?"<br /><br />Got some news for you Truth--everyone here already agrees that murder is bad. There's no need for a lot of debate or discussion on this matter. The issue is the media, not crime in and of itself. Thus, the Crowley affair matters because it is another facet of the media's dishonesty regarding race. (The fact that the president himself got drawn into such a piddling affair attests to social importance of the event, even if the confrontation itself was trivial.)<br /><br />"Am I starting to sink in here."<br /><br />Yes, it's becoming evident that you are a witless blowhard incapable of even the most rudimentary reasoning. (I've none that for years, but it becomes more and more clear.) I'm reminded of an argument I had in high school another kid who couldn't grasp how to score spares and strikes in bowling. He was white, but he was also a fucking retard, so he predicted the Truth Experience quite well.HLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-89397286092296725762011-01-11T16:30:22.369-08:002011-01-11T16:30:22.369-08:00"And after the fact there was a certain amoun..."And after the fact there was a certain amount of investigation into whether or not these allegations had merit"<br /><br />Repeating the same vague speculations and accusations again and again does not qualify as investigation into whether these allegations are true. <br /><br />"They are a reasonable EXPALANATION. An alien invasion from the planet Mingo is a resonable explanation for murder, provided the perp believes it. They are not a resonable EXCUSE."<br /><br />In a world where black failures are inevitably laid at the feet of white racism, yes, emphasizing the purported racism of his victims is indeed intended to mitigate the extremity of his crimes and represent a quasi-reasonable excuse. Perhaps you don't feel this way, but many liberals more or less do, even if they may not say it flat out.<br /><br />Once again, the media try to downplay the crimes of protected groups while uses the crimes of whites as a way to smear conservatism, even if the crime has nothing to do with conservatism itself.HLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56385458718386759652011-01-11T14:48:10.904-08:002011-01-11T14:48:10.904-08:00"I did not read one post on this thread oferi..."I did not read one post on this thread ofering condolences to the victim's families."<br /><br />What for? MSNBC covered that angle thoroughly. We come to isteve to get perspective you don't get on MSNBC.<br /><br />So, posts on isteve offering condolences to the family of a left-ish congresswoman, being's how they're exceedingly unlikely to be read by the family, are kinda moot. <br /> <br />Crowley just MIGHT be a closeted isteve reader, though.<br /><br />But, since it bothers you, okay, here. <br />Condolences to Congresswoman Giffords' family and to the family members of all the wounded and dead in Saturday's horrific murder spree.<br />Feel better now? Good.<br /><br />Now, as far as the 'matzo ball' crack, Loughner's mother's Jewishness is quite plausible, as the friend of Loughner claims it to be true.<br />Maybe you don't keep up with Fox News? They tried to put spin out there that Loughlin was motivated by anti-Semitism, which he developed from reading American Renaissance (which is ludicrous in itself). Since the evil nutjob's mom was Jewish, it kinda puts a dent in the evil White NAAAAHHHHTTSSSEEEEE anti-semitism motive.CC-bLFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-89577924741111356222011-01-11T14:40:17.055-08:002011-01-11T14:40:17.055-08:00"Truth said...
Come to think of it, I did no..."Truth said...<br /><br />Come to think of it, I did not read one post on this thread ofering condolences to the victim's families. There were, if my memory serves me correctly, many offered to officer James Crowley."<br /><br />Your memory doesn't serve you correctly - it serves you selectively. I don't recall any such condolences. What would they prove anyway? None of the victims families are likely reading this blog anyway. It would only be empty, meaningless posing.<br /><br />Much like every single thing you write.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91028297706732362332011-01-11T14:36:44.968-08:002011-01-11T14:36:44.968-08:00"Am I starting to sink in here?"
"..."Am I starting to sink in here?"<br /><br />"Am I starting to stink in here?"<br /><br />FTFYCC-bLFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12470587380097193072011-01-11T14:08:43.174-08:002011-01-11T14:08:43.174-08:00Yeah Omar Thornton was a prince of a fellow, I can...Yeah Omar Thornton was a prince of a fellow, I can see why you are still bent out of shape like the humorless, insecure dumbfuck you present yourself as in these comments. Go cry about it somewhere else.Udolpho.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12976984423336975944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90105408777036508962011-01-11T13:27:56.591-08:002011-01-11T13:27:56.591-08:00Come to think of it, I did not read one post on th...Come to think of it, I did not read one post on this thread ofering condolences to the victim's families. There were, if my memory serves me correctly, many offered to officer James Crowley.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6494405202117715642011-01-11T13:16:20.026-08:002011-01-11T13:16:20.026-08:00"This is how you downplay mass murder."
..."This is how you downplay mass murder."<br /><br />you're the one's downplaying mass murder. There were a hell of a lot more responses (and posts, Steve-O) to some goofy black college professor getting arrested for disorderly conduct then on a post about the murder of a US congresswoman. I see the sole reason for that being the skin color of the accused in each case;<br /> <br />anyone care to disagree?Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68940300689938366012011-01-11T13:12:57.010-08:002011-01-11T13:12:57.010-08:00"His being legitimately insane"
Who mak..."His being legitimately insane"<br /><br />Who makes this distinction? He was not in an insane asylum. I happen to feel that the Knoxville killers were "legitimately insane", you would define them as "black."<br /><br />"As for the Thornton case, whether or not he was specifically motivated by racial hate, this is certainly a plausible theory."<br /><br />Why, his girlfriend and BEST FRIEND were both white.<br /><br />"Yet the former was not entertained by the MSM at all,"<br /><br />Why would they entertain a theory that had absolutely NO PROOF? White people, male and female claimed that he was a good man in retrospect. Why should the media make things up out of thin air just to make YOU happy?<br /><br />"And after the fact there was a certain amount of investigation into whether or not these allegations had merit"<br /><br />Again, why wouldn't they investigate? Leaving a story half told is hack journalsim.<br /><br />"as if racial slurs of false reprimands are a reasonable explanation for mass murder."<br /><br />They are a reasonable EXPALANATION. An alien invasion from the planet Mingo is a resonable explanation for murder, provided the perp believes it. They are not a resonable EXCUSE.<br /> <br />Am I starting to sink in hereTruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65174075478338170872011-01-11T13:01:30.212-08:002011-01-11T13:01:30.212-08:00"No excuses here,"
No, of couse not...b..."No excuses here,"<br /><br />No, of couse not...but just look at a few of the above posts.<br /><br />"I READ SOMEWHERE HIS MOTHER HAD A BOWL OF MATZO BALL SOUP ONCE!"<br /><br />" If I give a valid alibi for why I could not have committed a crime it's not an "excuse" - it's an explanation."<br /><br />Yes, but "normal white guys don't commit crimes so he has to be a nutcase or a Jew" doesn't qualify as valid.<br /><br />"We aren't defending Loughner because he's white, indeed, we aren't defending him at all."<br /><br />"Defending" is not the key concept here; "distancing", and "binding are. The point is this a black man kills a white person and the generaltone is; "I told you, you have to watch out for blacks!"<br /><br />Not criminal blacks, not insane blacks, blacks, period.<br /><br />There is not one "you have to watch out for whites" post here, even though most of you unfortunate to be killed will be by whites.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7964127574130144452011-01-11T12:59:44.021-08:002011-01-11T12:59:44.021-08:00"Anonymous said...
2. He shot dead a conserv..."Anonymous said...<br /><br />2. He shot dead a conservative judge who will now more than likely be replaced by a lib (due to redistricting)."<br /><br />It should be noted that this judge, John Rolls, ruled in favor of a case brought by MALDEF on behalf of illegal aliens (who should have no standing in a US court) against an Arizona rancher. He could have thrown it out. He didn't.<br /><br />http://www.maldef.org/immigration/litigation/vicente_v_barnett/Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67806591578094323972011-01-11T12:41:45.591-08:002011-01-11T12:41:45.591-08:00"ironrailsironweights said...
Although I..."ironrailsironweights said...<br /><br /> Although I support responsible gun ownership, I cannot see any reason whatsoever why a 30-round magazine should be legal for civilian use.<br /><br /> Peter"<br /><br />Although I support responsible exercise of the 1st amendment, I cannot see any reason whatsoever why it should be legal for you, Peter, to speak your mind freely.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82132705552942384592011-01-11T12:40:01.855-08:002011-01-11T12:40:01.855-08:00Krugman is really losing it...wouldn't be surp...<i>Krugman is really losing it...wouldn't be surprised if the NYT will remove him from their pages in the near future if he keeps this up. It must be embarassing for them to defend him to their often thoughtful serious base.</i><br /><br />IMHO, Krugman's all-too-apparent crack-up is due to being afflicted by a terminal Cassandra Complex.<br /><br />He, alone, understands how to prevent the oncoming Global Financial Collapse -- A second stimulus package at least an order of magnitude greater than the first. However, despite his Nobel Prize, nobody will listen to him. Not Obama. Not Congress. Not the Fed. Not Wall Street. Not Main Street."<br /><br />He is haunted by spectres of a globe in chaos, starvation & pandemic on the giga-death scale, the utter ruin of 10,000 years of civilization, the extinction of humanity itself. Only HE (and the ghost of Keynes) knows the solutions, but <br /><br />NOBODY!<br /><br />WILL! <br /><br />LISTEN!Paul Mendezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13254898636271278035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62633460818591905602011-01-11T12:38:22.164-08:002011-01-11T12:38:22.164-08:00"sabril said...
""I cannot see any..."sabril said...<br /><br />""I cannot see any reason whatsoever why a 30-round magazine should be legal for civilian use.""<br /><br />Here's a reason:<br /><br />..........<br /><br />Hope you see some reasons now."<br /><br />Excellent response. Well said, sir.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74821531131170966962011-01-11T12:36:16.674-08:002011-01-11T12:36:16.674-08:00"Truth said...
I simply:
B) Look to find lo..."Truth said...<br /><br />I simply:<br /><br />B) Look to find logic and truth in every scenario"<br /><br />Yes, this is from the man who believes that cars can run on water.<br /><br />"C) Would like to see the same standard fairly applied."<br /><br />Yeah, the same standard. When blacks do bad things it's the white man's fault. and when white's do bad things, it's the white man's fault.<br /><br />"Steve wrote in his story something to the effect of "wait and see just how different the media coverage is..."<br /><br />And, he was right. Omar Thornton himself blamed "Racist whites", Whitey, "The Man", whatever, for his troubles, and went off and killed a bunch of whites. In this case, there is no such racial angle. And nobody here has offered excuses for Loughner's crimes. Explanations, perhaps - like for example the most likely explanations - that he is just evil or that he is full-on bat-shit crazy - but not excuses. I would guess that most people here would be quite happy to see Loughner hanged. I know I would.<br /><br />"By the way, you should all research MK-Ultra when you get a chance."<br /><br />Yeah, we've never heard of that. Thanks a lot "Truth". Thanks for helping us stay up-to-date on 1970s revelations from the world of espionage.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64723577368892281212011-01-11T10:51:27.863-08:002011-01-11T10:51:27.863-08:00Note how Krugman sees moderate Republicans:
"...Note how Krugman sees <i>moderate Republicans</i>:<br /><br />"I remembered the upsurge in political hatred after Bill Clinton’s election in 1992 — an upsurge that culminated in the Oklahoma City bombing. And you could see, just by watching <b>the crowds at McCain-Palin rallies</b>, that it was ready to happen again."C. Van Carterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09918883799053031223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10714491674808194172011-01-11T07:56:01.577-08:002011-01-11T07:56:01.577-08:00"In short, anything to obscure the basic poin..."In short, anything to obscure the basic point of the story: A (white) MAN (like the lot of you) MURDERED A BUNCH OF INNOCENT PEOPLE."<br /><br />Why should the fact that a psychotic White guy (as proven by his bizarre, deluded youtube rantings and obsessions with dreaming) mowed down some White people make us mitigate our rage when a Black guy steals beer and kills when caught and fired but WE WHITES GET BLAMED FOR IT ("racism")?CC-bLFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55051111834352169582011-01-11T02:19:02.446-08:002011-01-11T02:19:02.446-08:00"A) Love to ridicule
B) Look to find logic a..."A) Love to ridicule<br /><br />B) Look to find logic and truth in every scenario<br /><br />C) Would like to see the same standard fairly applied."<br /><br />Well, 1 out of 3 ain't ba. . . no, wait, it kinda sucks actually.<br /><br />We aren't defending Loughner because he's white, indeed, we aren't defending him at all. His being legitimately insane is not presented as a moral excuse, it's merely an alternate explanation to the claims that this attack is rooted in conservative "extremism." The MSM made the accusations with no compelling evidence and continued reinforcing the story even after its falsity had become obvious. (See B from your list.) Conversely, when a couple of killers from protected groups decided to gun down some innocents, the MSM used a totally different approach, one with much more caution where the potential political overtones were ignored, though this approach is too intended to reinforce liberal narratives. (See C from your list.) This is pretty much the short and long of the issue. We don't need to prove that blacks kill more than whites cause, well, this has been verified endlessly. <br /><br />As for the Thornton case, whether or not he was specifically motivated by racial hate, this is certainly a plausible theory. It's also plausible that he's a garden variety spree killer and his justifications and victims were incidental. Yet the former was not entertained by the MSM at all, much less preemptively declared to be obviously true. And after the fact there was a certain amount of investigation into whether or not these allegations had merit, as if racial slurs of false reprimands are a reasonable explanation for mass murder. This is how you downplay mass murder. <br /><br />That's some nice projection you got going there, Truth. The idea that whites feel a need to downplay white crime . . . oh my.HLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-89311360646988499642011-01-11T00:05:01.566-08:002011-01-11T00:05:01.566-08:00"After all of these posts on the Omar Thornto...<i>"After all of these posts on the Omar Thornton story saying "All the media does is make excuses for him!" (they weren't they were simply providing the 5 "w"s and one "h" of journalism.) What do we have here? 80 posts of excues..."</i><br /><br />No excuses here, because the ties between Loughner and conservatives are tenuous at best, and probably non-existent.<br /><br />How are we making excuses? If I give a valid alibi for why I could not have committed a crime it's not an "excuse" - it's an explanation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com