tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post5326823697999988854..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Congratulations to ChileUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger82125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34626435223499471372010-10-21T20:11:03.004-07:002010-10-21T20:11:03.004-07:00Special Forces and Knife Fighting:
Robert Rogers&...Special Forces and Knife Fighting:<br /><i><br />Robert Rogers' 28 "Rules of Ranging"<br /><br />From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia<br /><br /><br />An artist's interpretation of Rogers.<br /><br />The 28 "Rules of Ranging" are a series of rules and guidelines originally created by Major Robert Rogers in 1757, during the French and Indian War (1754–1763).<br />The rules were originally written at Rogers Island in the Hudson River near Fort Edward. They were intended to serve as a manual on guerrilla warfare for Rogers' Ranger company, a 600 strong contingent whose members were personally selected by Rogers.<br /><br /><br />The true Plan of Discipline, extracted from Major Rogers's journal and intended for his Rogers' Rangers in 1759, follow:<br /><br /><br />1. All Rangers are to be subject to the rules and articles of war; to appear at roll-call every evening, on their own parade, equipped, each with a Firelock, sixty rounds of powder and ball, and a hatchet, at which time an officer from each company is to inspect the same, to see they are in order, so as to be ready on any emergency to march at a minute's warning; and before they are dismissed, the necessary guards are to be draughted, and scouts for the next day appointed.<br /><br />...<br /><br />13. In general, when pushed upon by the enemy, reserve your fire till they approach very near, which will then put them into the greatest surprise and consternation, and give you an opportunity of rushing upon them with your hatchets and cutlasses to the better advantage.<br /><br />...</i>David Davenportnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23631751006702110302010-10-20T03:34:30.599-07:002010-10-20T03:34:30.599-07:00Weird thread. It's like the first page of com...Weird thread. It's like the first page of comments is missing or something.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58168605965815911062010-10-18T23:25:10.162-07:002010-10-18T23:25:10.162-07:00Ok, this is the last time I am ddressing this issu...Ok, this is the last time I am ddressing this issue.<br /><br /> YES, MOST CHILEANS HAVE AMERINDIAN BLOOD. I SAID THIS FROM THE BEGGINING.<br /><br /> My point is that the amount of Amerindian blood is much, much smaller thn in other countries of Latin America. The amount of Amerindian blood amongat Chileans is probably around 10% to 20% compared to over 50% for other Latin Americans. Just compare the populations of Chile with Blovia and you see what I meant. <br /><br /> As for the middle and upper classes, they are pure European. There is no debate here. Just go to Santiago and you'll see tons and tons and tons of kid with blue and green eyes.<br /><br /> As for Chile's GDP per capita being the same as Turkey's, well, Chile's PPP per capita is much closer to $18,000, double of Turkey's. What really matters is PPP because there is no point in being richer if you also need to pay more for services and goods. An American in Japan would be poorer because the cost of living is so very high. <br /><br /> Please take into consideration that Chile had a communits dictatorship back in the 1970s which made it into a very poor ntion. The Chileans had a lot of catching up to do nd they did. And the economy has been growing at a gargantuan rate since 1985. This is a fact.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45657773391784299742010-10-18T01:52:20.891-07:002010-10-18T01:52:20.891-07:00Nonsense. People view Ignatievian delusions cynica...<em>Nonsense. People view Ignatievian delusions cynically here. After working at the International Development Bank and Pan-American Health Organization, I would never called most Chileans "mestizos."...</em><br /><br />Probably because, since your a fed employee and work in international organizations, you primarily deal with Chileans who have significantly more European genes than does the <em>average</em> Chilean. Very, very few of them, however, are wholly European by genetic ancestry.<br /><br />Of course as well that in the cities, like in most of Latin America, most of the European-descended people will be concentrated there.<br /><br />Do not get me wrong at all, I love Chile and its people. I just think that their (biologically) Mestizo country is proof positive that a mixed country can be run well and efficiently if the people behave and act decently, and especially, if they adopt the cultural traits that were proven successful elsewhere. <br /><br />Chile for example adopted -- and greatly took to heart -- many of the cultural values of Germany and Great Britain, and she is certainly one of the better Latin American countries for it. <br /><br />Especially Germany and the <em>Preussen</em> (Prussian) tradition and virtues of hard work and incorruptibility -- and modelling her whole military system on it:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkAz_2rAOow" rel="nofollow">Tradicion Militar Prusiana en Chile \ Chile's Prussian Military Tradition</a>Langobardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59736685206482249312010-10-17T21:58:56.136-07:002010-10-17T21:58:56.136-07:00Here is the actual data.
http://en.wikipedia.org/...Here is the actual data.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29_per_capita<br /><br />This is the GDP per capital (nominal). Nominal figures are the actual figues not the exchange rate adjusted PPP figures which inflate the per capita of poor countries.<br /><br />Chile is $9516/per capita. That's not much more above Turkey, $8711/per capita. You call that almost first world? Again, your info is bogus or you don't have much sense for these kinds of things. <br /><br /><br />And if it was growing at 7.5% for the past 25 years the country definitely would be first world by now. I would like to see a link backing your claim.<br /><br /><br />Think before you post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44696258456194616262010-10-17T20:52:20.810-07:002010-10-17T20:52:20.810-07:00Well, maybe you're right and I'm wrong.
S...Well, maybe you're right and I'm wrong.<br /><br />Spme of the testimonials from your ekknife website are incontrovertibly authentic. For example:<br /><br /><i><br />"I was at the battle at LZ X-Ray, 1965, Vietnam with 2/7 of the 1st Cav, Air Mobile, as a reinforcement to 1/7, that badly needed help. I was 6'2", 200 lbs., and the NVA attacking us looked like little kids beside me. The second night of fighting, my M16 jammed. The NVA overran our position and were packed in so tightly they couldn't get out of each other's way.<b> When they'd surge forward to bayonet me, I'd grab the barrel of their rifle, pull them forward, and slit their throats with my Ek. Ten bodies were piled up in from of me after the fight.</b> That knife kept me alive that night - and it got more use after that. That knife was made for doing one thing, and that is what I used it for in Vietnam." - Fred B., Wash. State</i>David Davenportnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9662330277876344942010-10-17T14:44:54.483-07:002010-10-17T14:44:54.483-07:00David Davenport said...
"Knives, ... for the...David Davenport said... <br />"Knives, ... for the troops entering the building<br />Knives? You've outed yourself as a commando wannabe who gets his notions about super-soldiering from the movies"<br /> Obviously you have never served in the military. Knives are carried by commandos as a backup for the pistol and to kill silently and are not intended to be thrown:http://www.ekknife.com/Dutch Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02687679491743923216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4633180097775783342010-10-17T13:23:48.786-07:002010-10-17T13:23:48.786-07:00"Like in most Latin American countries, to id..."Like in most Latin American countries, to identify as White is far more a social construct -- rather than a predominantly biological one, as it was/is in Anglo-Celtic North America."<br /><br />Nonsense. People view Ignatievian delusions cynically here. After working at the International Development Bank and Pan-American Health Organization, I would never called most Chileans "mestizos." Some are, obviously, but most in the cities are not. This is neither "good" nor "bad," it just is. They identify culturally as Spanish-speaking but language identity can disappear quickly when not augmented by ethnicity--or even if it is. Chileans marry with other persons of European ancestry when not with other Chileans, and not often with mestizo Hispanics. I can't comment on whether this is prejudice or just what comes naturally, but that's how it is.<br />The Chileans I know are very concerned about an increasing Arab/Muslim presence in their country. One lady said, at first glance some look Chilean but of course you can tell they are not (usually.)fed employeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13019301872709117662010-10-16T21:33:26.620-07:002010-10-16T21:33:26.620-07:00@Anonymous
Unlike you, I have been to Chile man...@Anonymous<br /><br /> Unlike you, I have been to Chile many times so I know more about it than you do.<br /><br /> Lots of people from the lower class have Amerindian ancestry, but the middle and upper classes are pure European. Also, even in the lower classes, the percentage of Amerindian ancestry is much lower than in other countries of Latin America. The lower class Chileans probably have around 10% or maybe a little bit more of Amerindian ancestry compred to 50% in other Latin Americans countries. Trust me when I tell you that you see more blue-eyed people in Santiago than in most European cities, especially more than in any Southern European country. Chile is a European couuntry is Latin America, dude. Acknowledging Amerindian ncestry doesen't means shit, since if you have 1 Amerindian ancestor out of your 16 great-great-grandparents, then by the very definitiion you have Amerindian ancestry. Most lower class Chileans do have Amerindian ancestry, but it is pretty small compared to other countries of Latin America. Lots of white Americans have a Cherokee or Apache ancestor and they identify as white. Lots of Chileans have an Araucano ancestor and they still identiify as Amerindiann even though 90% of their blood is European.<br /><br /> As for Chile never making it into the First World, I actually agree with you to some extent. Making it into the First World is extremely hard. Pretty much the only two countries that ever went from Third World to First World are Cingapure and Hong Kong, and the only reason for it is because lots of rich Chinese immigrated there after the Communist revolution. Even South Korea with a population that is on average more literate and intelligent than Americans haven't been able to become full-fledged First World nations. To become a First World nation, it is not enough for a country to have an industrious and well educated population: you also need a highly creative and entrepeneural elite that is good at creating businesses. You also need a critical mass of PhDs who turn supply the business World with technologies that increase productivity and gives businesses the ability to create goods that command high prices. Most countries in the World lack all that is required to become full-fledged First World nations.<br /><br /> But Chile's per capita has not stagnated. In fact, Chile's GDP has been growing at 7.5% a year for the past 25 years. This is a fact, my friend. At this rate, it will take Chile at least another 20 years but less than 40 to reach the U.S' level, and that is a very short time. And even if it never makes it, it wiill still be superior to the U.S in orderliness, social development and quality of life. Chile's homicide rate is not even 10% of the U.S level and if you make a decent pay you can live better in Chile than in most of the U.S since land is cheaper there and food is inexpensive. Think before you type, ok.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51125442276447362482010-10-16T16:13:42.777-07:002010-10-16T16:13:42.777-07:00The CIA World Factbook puts Chile's GDP per ca...The CIA World Factbook puts Chile's GDP per capita at $15,000 and Wikipedia cites 2 or 3 studies indicating that about half the population identifies themselvese as Amerindian or Mestizo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40677776782883152012010-10-16T15:04:40.094-07:002010-10-16T15:04:40.094-07:00"However, the Amerindian proportion of the po..."However, the Amerindian proportion of the population is very small and concentrated on the South. Most Chileans are pure European."<br /><br />Completely untrue. Probably a majority of people in Chile IDENTIFY as having Amerindian in them. <br /><br />Also the Chilean economy seems to have plateaued at $10,000/per capita. The US is $45,000/per capita. (all nominal GDP figures) That gap won't close in 20 years. Probably never. <br /><br />Makes your other claims sound more bogus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23074852285060816062010-10-16T09:33:56.822-07:002010-10-16T09:33:56.822-07:00Knives, ... for the troops entering the building
...<i> Knives, ... for the troops entering the building</i><br /><br />Knives? You've outed yourself as a commando wannabe who gets his notions about super-soldiering from the movies.<br /><br />Was the hostage rescue team supposed to include expert knife throwers? Maybe some guys with blowguns also?David Davenportnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58543138862219969962010-10-16T08:35:09.912-07:002010-10-16T08:35:09.912-07:00The Russians could learn a thing or two.
Yeah, wh...<i>The Russians could learn a thing or two.</i><br /><br />Yeah, what's that saying about the Spetsnaz:<br /><br />"50 hostages, 20 terrorists, 70 bodybags. Mission accomplished."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52855346810263866912010-10-15T13:29:50.437-07:002010-10-15T13:29:50.437-07:00Ok, I want to clarify what I said. When I claimed ...Ok, I want to clarify what I said. When I claimed that Chile is the best country of the Americas, I wasn't talking about GNP per capita.<br /><br /> In terms of GNP per capita, the U.S and Canada are for the time being still superior to Chile, even though Chile might reach the U.S level in only another 20 years or so which is a very short time.<br /><br /> What I actually meant by Chile being the best country of the Americas is that it has the most orderly and also peaceful society, the highest quality of life and those things. If it weren't for the horrible smog, Santiago would be like Geneva. The streets are so clean, everything works so perfectly. Trains arrive on time as well as buses. You don't see even the slightest litter on the streets. The homicide rate in Chile is not even 10% of the U.S level. The entire Chilean society works like a clock. If you go to Chilean towns you see lots of little kids with names like "Claus" nd "Gottfried". Chileans are a strange mixture of Spaniards with Germans and yes, a little Amerindian. However, the Amerindian proportion of the population is very small and concentrated on the South. Most Chileans are pure European.<br /><br /> Chileans are the nicest, most polite civilized people you will meet. They are so polite to all people. Most white Americans would strike them as rude and unpolite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26238503287045571752010-10-15T11:47:46.484-07:002010-10-15T11:47:46.484-07:00Anonymous said...
"Dear Anonymous: the m...Anonymous said...<br /><br /> "Dear Anonymous: the morons are the guys who throw fragmentation grenades during a hostage rescue."<br /><br /> Nobody shoots rifles either..<br /><br />Knives, pistols and flash-bang grenades for the troops entering the building, rifles for everybody else (and tell the SEALS that a hostage rescue is not a search-and-destroy mission!)Dutch Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02687679491743923216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56459006237002463522010-10-15T01:58:14.873-07:002010-10-15T01:58:14.873-07:00Albertosaurus - With all those people milling abou...Albertosaurus - <i>With all those people milling about there was the possibility that someone might kick a rock down from the top when the torpedo was ascending.</i><br /><br />When I first saw the top of the escape tunnel, where the gantry was, I noticed how that whole area was smooth concrete. I thought they had gone a bit over the top in finishing the surface. Of course what you said about debris being knocked down the hole explains that high quality finish. There was no debris at the top to be knocked down.<br /><br />Furthermore we dont know what, if any, precautions were in place to keep that platform area clean throughout the day. For all I know there was a guy with a brush sweeping it clear the whole time. I didnt notice that on tv but, well, he could have been there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90998392738595025292010-10-15T00:10:18.916-07:002010-10-15T00:10:18.916-07:00Chief Seattle,
I am aware of the former usage of ...Chief Seattle,<br /><br />I am aware of the former usage of "Second World". Since the Soviet Block is no more, I am suggesting it be revived for countries such as Chile. <br /><br />Alternatively, we could stop calling every country on the spectrum between First World and Fourth World "developing" and differentiate between those that are actually developing in a positive manner, such as Chile, and those that are just perennially undeveloped. <br /><br />TGGP,<br /><br /><i>"Chile just became a member of OECD. I'd say it's first-world now."</i><br /><br />Would you say Mexico is First World then? Because Mexico is a member of the OECD too. To be sure, Mexico belongs in the OECD like Russia belongs in the G-8 (formerly G-7), but given the way these organizations have been diluted and expanded, membership is no longer an accurate signifier of First World status.Frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-89276106490544783412010-10-14T22:29:12.158-07:002010-10-14T22:29:12.158-07:00For those of you who are calling the Chileans Lati...<i>For those of you who are calling the Chileans Latinos and all that stuff, do you have any idea what you're talking about? Have you been to Chile?</i><br /><br />Agreed. The funny thing is, there was a Chilean student here recently who said he identified as Latino, as opposed to white, despite being blond, green-eyed, and of obvious European descent. So... in addition to actually calling <i>him</i> a "white guy" at one point (I can't remember the context), I would throw rhetorical questions at him, such as "Latino? You mean like Italians?" He said that Italians were European and not Latino, and I would insist that they were. He was a good guy, though... I just wanted to at least incept into him that he was a child of Europe.corvinusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46887411205446286532010-10-14T22:01:45.112-07:002010-10-14T22:01:45.112-07:00Chile just became a member of OECD. I'd say it...Chile just became a member of OECD. I'd say it's first-world now.TGGPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11017651009634767649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21869286927503449812010-10-14T20:06:56.669-07:002010-10-14T20:06:56.669-07:00"Second World" used to refer to the Sovi..."Second World" used to refer to the Soviet block. "First World" was the West and Japan. "Third World" was everything else - presumably left alone out of weakness or lack of importance. So "promoting" Chile to Second world wouldn't really be much of a promotion. <br /><br />The Chile thing is a really amazing story. The fact that the government recognized its limitations and brought in foreign expertise where needed reflects well on everyone involved.Chief Seattlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5929180076352270602010-10-14T20:01:51.307-07:002010-10-14T20:01:51.307-07:00"Dear Anonymous: the morons are the guys who ..."Dear Anonymous: the morons are the guys who throw fragmentation grenades during a hostage rescue."<br /><br />Nobody shoots rifles either...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4359474542888091372010-10-14T16:08:31.909-07:002010-10-14T16:08:31.909-07:00Albertosaurus,
the rescue torpedo vehicle apparent...Albertosaurus,<br />the rescue torpedo vehicle apparently had an abseil mechanism in pace so that if it got stuck the miner could lower himself down the hole.<br />Another thing was that the rock was very hard. Unlined tunnels are common in hard rock formations.headachenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24163966355763107512010-10-14T15:12:23.226-07:002010-10-14T15:12:23.226-07:00Is the relative success of Chile a result of its s...Is the relative success of Chile a result of its settlement by Basques? I wonder if Steve has written on this subject before.Austin Bramwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08678302979822446772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42122786087450053302010-10-14T14:30:40.264-07:002010-10-14T14:30:40.264-07:00I gather that some Americans took part in the resc...I gather that some Americans took part in the rescue. It just shows that under suitably grown-up unhysterical command, Americans can be valuable employees in such charged circumstances.deariemenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10855445963999603352010-10-14T11:24:37.806-07:002010-10-14T11:24:37.806-07:00Take your time and do it right.
And get a white ...<i><br />Take your time and do it right.<br /></i><br /><br />And get a white American male to help you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com