tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post5334606107532576099..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: What's the matter with the Democrats?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32128810879772824262013-06-08T18:29:44.901-07:002013-06-08T18:29:44.901-07:00"john marzan said...
The Democrats. Mexi..."john marzan said...<br /><br /> The Democrats. Mexico and the Cartels has already bought parts of the dem party around the border states.<br /> 10/30/12, 7:57 PM " <br /><br />Yes, I am sure you have links to back up your cartel accusations ... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41700092553916100112012-11-03T19:35:31.683-07:002012-11-03T19:35:31.683-07:00Anon 10:02:
Wait, I'm confused. Usually, the...Anon 10:02:<br /><br />Wait, I'm confused. Usually, the propaganda line is that Iran is the next Nazi Germany. Are you saying it's also the next USSR? Hell, why not declare it to be both? <br /><br />At any rate, my question (which I guess triggered your canned astroturf spiel) was not whether these were good or bad, but rather whether Romney would be different than Obama on these and similar questions. I do not see any reason to suspect Romney of being less willing to do such things than Obama has been. Iran is pretty much helpless against our military force, as long as we don't try to occupy the place and get our soldiers tangled up in another guerilla war, so I expect both Obama and Romney to be perfectly willing to kill as many Iranians as necessary to achieve their domestic political goals. <br /><br />Of course, it is just barely possible that there's some kind of unpleasant precedent being set. But not to worry--donors want to see concrete action now about their pet issue, but mostly don't think long term. And 99% of voters think Stuxnet is the guy who made that Gangham Style video. NOTAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26977774121485239382012-11-02T22:02:16.069-07:002012-11-02T22:02:16.069-07:00If you oppose Stuxnet and the killing of Iranain n...If you oppose Stuxnet and the killing of Iranain nuclear scientists you are for all intents and purposes in the same postion as pinks in the Cold War. For Christ sakes Iran is our enemy of course we don't want them getting nuclear weapons anymore than you sad sack paleocons like that the Jews took control of the media. If Steve weren't so obsessed with using the who/whom distinction to flaunt his edginess he'd take a look at schmitts friend enemy distinction. In the interest of who whom you are cutting of your nose to spite your face on Iran. Sure Israel wants to keep the bomb out of Iran's hands and represent a "who" doeant mean that America represents the "whom"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-35284105019038339892012-11-01T07:34:26.126-07:002012-11-01T07:34:26.126-07:00I wonder what investments you could make that woul...I wonder what investments you could make that would amount to a bet one way or another. It's not obvious to me. As of a week ago, Romney sounded like better news for defense contractors than Obama, but that could just be Obama and Romney playing to their respective bases. Would Romney be expected to help or hurt insurance company stock prices? I suppose hurt them (anything that repeals Obamacare means fewer people required to be their customers, some with a subsidy), but will Romney really repeal Obamacare? He's already committed to keeping some of the popular parts. Romney and Obama talk about deficit reduction, and God knows Obama has massively increased the deficit, but would you really bet your own money that the deficit will go down substantially under Romney? (The guy who promises more defense spending and attacks Obama for cuts to Medicare, and who promises to cut taxes?)<br /><br />NOTAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13804441167188605742012-10-31T20:48:13.499-07:002012-10-31T20:48:13.499-07:00Hmm.
Buy the Dems, run up the odds against Romney...Hmm.<br /><br />Buy the Dems, run up the odds against Romney in the election, make a nice, fat, bet on him and then have the Dems throw the election?<br /><br />Choice being based on the fact that the media will be more than happy to run up the odds for you, and Americans more than happy to look the other way out of white fear?Svigorhttp://svigor.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58900492314545699092012-10-31T19:24:40.546-07:002012-10-31T19:24:40.546-07:00Severn:
So, what differences in foreign policy do...Severn:<br /><br />So, what differences in foreign policy do you expect in a Romney administration, and what evidence is there for that expectation? Even their rhetoric sounds almost identical to me. Of course, both guys would lie when the truth would save them money, but I don't even have any intuition about the direction of the difference between them. Would Romney kill more foreigners or less? Would he approve more stuff like Stuxnet and the terrorist bombings of Iranian nuclear physicists, or less? Would he intervene in more foreign countries, or fewer? And how can we know? NOTAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51818402293917457192012-10-31T18:09:45.362-07:002012-10-31T18:09:45.362-07:00Why would I only have to buy one? why not buy both...Why would I only have to buy one? why not buy both?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46653607962985390432012-10-31T17:51:52.859-07:002012-10-31T17:51:52.859-07:00An interesting question, the answer to which is de...An interesting question, the answer to which is demonstrated by the interesting life of Schwartz György aka George Soros. If he had spent the last 10 years giving money to right wingers rather than left wingers you would hear a lot more about his insider trading conviction, his massive bet 'breaking the Pound' or his lack of regret for his activities as a youth in Hungary at the end of WWII. He might, actually, be portrayed as a cynical amoral manipulator rather than some kind of humanitarian.fondatorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17615410238756343434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65564643294814419372012-10-31T17:17:37.401-07:002012-10-31T17:17:37.401-07:00The only difference between Obama and Romney in te...<i>The only difference between Obama and Romney in terms of foreign policy is that Romney explicitly looks forward to a war</i> <br /><br />You people are insane.<br /><br />I don't mean that in the ad hom sense, I mean it in the literal, clinical sense.Severnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13849503704301886852012-10-31T14:19:12.520-07:002012-10-31T14:19:12.520-07:00If I could fire the management, I'd buy the GO...If I could fire the management, I'd buy the GOP. It is a homogenous party made up of the productive half of the nation. The Democrats are a muddled mix of mutually antagonistic victim classes, united only by a common envy and hatred of straight white Christian men and all they've accomplished. <br /><br />However, if I had to keep the current management, I'd buy the Democrats. GOP leadership is a gang of short-sighted, traitorous, post-American, elitist pussies who labor under the delusion that if you just <i>explain</i> the benefits of the free market system clearly enough, the tax-eating class will suddenly turn into an army of John Galts.<br /><br />The Democratic leadership is also a gang of short-sighted, traitorous, post-American elitists, but at least they're smart and have balls. Paul Mendeznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42596614629857127502012-10-31T10:18:01.989-07:002012-10-31T10:18:01.989-07:00"You can't "buy" dems to help c..."You can't "buy" dems to help cover up that Israel sent 8 F-18s on a bombing run to attack Darfur/Sudan (!). Oops!"<br /><br />Who do you think covered this up? It was in fact widely reported.Nobody covered it up, it's just that noone cares very much about such squabbles any more than anyone much cared about turkey taking care of its business in syria.kaganovitchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87446116826025569662012-10-31T09:31:05.151-07:002012-10-31T09:31:05.151-07:00Interesting question. There is a historical preced...Interesting question. There is a historical precedent which tends to argue for buying the Democrats.<br /><br />When I was little I was amazed that Washington DC had so many Roman temples. Later when I went to Rome for the first time I noticed that there were far fewer such temples there.<br /><br />The United States was founded on priciples modeled on the Roman Republic. But as we all know Caesar ended all that. In a very real sense he purchased an end to republican government.<br /><br />The the opposition were the 'boni' (the good men) also called the 'optimates' (the optimum men). Caesar on the other hand was famous for his bad but popular behavior. He seduced the wives of his opponents.<br /><br />Today we have Mitt Romney and George Bush who are both scrupulously virtuous contrasted with Bill Clinton and Barney Franke. Then as now being a scoundrel and a liar is popular while being rightous has a much, more limited appeal.<br /><br />The 'good' men are at a disadvantage against men like Obama or Clinton. Bet on attractive evil.<br /><br />Albertosaurus Pat Boylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13477950851915567863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9987691553221216352012-10-31T08:27:29.773-07:002012-10-31T08:27:29.773-07:00Whiskey is half-right: you can't buy a party t...Whiskey is half-right: you can't buy a party to do things it really doesn't like doing. You can't buy Democrats to limit abortion, you can't buy Republicans to legalize drugs.<br /><br />But Whiskey is *really* wrong on his examples, especially the Democrats on war. Democrats only dislike wars that make Republicans popular. Right now, Obama is gearing up to invade that latest existential threat to America, Mali, and only the more political Republicans are opposed.<br /><br />You *can* buy the Republican Party to support more immigration, by appealing to the businessmen who prefer cheaper labor (that approach has only recently encountered pushback from within the party), and you can probably buy individual Republicans (though not the party) to support tax increases, as we've seen in California.Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389602137217799305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16001104315490155272012-10-31T08:25:54.641-07:002012-10-31T08:25:54.641-07:00Not sure where I'd put my money --electoral dy...Not sure where I'd put my money --electoral dynamics tend to push both parties toward an approximately 50% coalition -- but here's a prediction about what Republicans and Democrats will look like within a generation or so (and into the indefinite future beyond).<br /><br />The socially conservative, anti-big-government, Reaganesque stain of current Republicanism will be extinct. Republicans will occupy more or less the same position in policy space as current Democrats. Republican politicians will be guys like Al Gore or Barack Obama. <br /><br />Democrats will present some combination of African-American-style racial-tribal bigmanship, like Al Sharpton or Marion Barry, and Latin-American-style authoritarian charismatic populism, like Juan Peron or Hugo Chavez: justice for my friends, humiliation for my enemies, never mind the law or rules of fair play. (The closest analogy in American history to this style is Huey Long.) <br /><br />Most well-educated whites and Asians will vote Republican. (How many white leftists would vote for Al Sharpton over Al Gore?) Most Hispanics and African Americans, especially the less educated, will vote Democratic, along with some white proles and wiggers. America is a big place: some states will be firmly Republican, others firmly Democratic, some will be tossups.<br /><br />Unsettled questions under this scenario: As Republicans morph from the conservative party to the white'n'yellow party, will they drop moral universalism and allow open race realist talk? And how will Democrats handle the trade off between racial-tribal appeals and populist class resentment?a very knowing Americannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13183748095598781852012-10-31T06:25:03.079-07:002012-10-31T06:25:03.079-07:00@Whiskey
Except Obama has increased military expe...@Whiskey<br /><br />Except Obama has increased military expenditures on every single front thus far. He's increased drone bombing on the Pakistanis, a group that you've come to really hate fairly recently..<br /><br />The only difference between Obama and Romney in terms of foreign policy is that Romney explicitly looks forward to a war; for some reason his white base really looks forward to getting their children killed in the upcoming years. While Obama lies but really will end up doing the same thing since his advisors will lead him into it. <br /><br />Rest assured we will get involved with another bullshit war in the middle east within the next decade. Kaznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-89260550109275487302012-10-31T06:19:31.635-07:002012-10-31T06:19:31.635-07:00Easy. I'd buy the Republicans. They will pro...Easy. I'd buy the Republicans. They will probably not hold the majority of elected offices, but at least I could more-or-less trust them to stay bought! You can't trust Democrats at all, not even after buying them.JInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21939864466614761862012-10-31T06:00:20.509-07:002012-10-31T06:00:20.509-07:00I think Steve's point was that the Republicans...I think Steve's point was that the Republicans are generally smaller but vastly better organized (case in point Ron Paul followed the Carter/Obama strategy (win delegates via obscure rules that other candidates don't understand) to nick the nomination and the party leadership simply shut him down. The analogy might be bad, but the underlying observation wasn't. There has long been a wide difference in the cultures of the two parties.blutonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42523790235581040832012-10-31T05:26:50.628-07:002012-10-31T05:26:50.628-07:00This may be cheating on the question...but as a co...This may be cheating on the question...but as a conservative I'd buy myself a good chunk of MSM.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Hughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25526349717734290732012-10-31T01:34:15.906-07:002012-10-31T01:34:15.906-07:00The Republicans, because when you buy them they st...The Republicans, because when you buy them they stay bought. Simon in Londonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73905040065507709142012-10-31T00:59:29.578-07:002012-10-31T00:59:29.578-07:00There's absolutely no doubt about that one wha...There's absolutely no doubt about that one whatsoever.......The Republicans.<br />Look. The Republicans are basically owned by neocon dogmatists, their coe beliefs, what they are all about is basically the agenda of the WSJ and The Economist ie give the plutocrats everything they want and damn the rest. Hence uncontrolled mass immigration and uncontrolled Devil take the hindmost 'free trade' and an out of control Wall Street, credit default swaps, subprime, derivatives and all. If you were a foreign plutocrat, all you'd want from the USA was the ability to loot and park huge amounts of dosh with no consequence to yourself - and that's the entirety of the Republican package.<br /> Of course to the dumb baseball cap wearing proles, some even dumber Republican song-and-dance man histrionics merchants rhythmically tap their feet, invoke abortion, religion, guns and dark hints towards darkies and get the sucker vote in the bag.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8607960975465544832012-10-31T00:12:52.195-07:002012-10-31T00:12:52.195-07:00Simple answer is just buy the media, or enough of ...Simple answer is just buy the media, or enough of it anyway. They will manufacture the desired narrative, framing it in either Dem or GOP terms as required.<br /><br />Hard to think that hasnt already happened.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80240025955635004732012-10-31T00:11:03.360-07:002012-10-31T00:11:03.360-07:00What Luke Lea said, why take a risk, buy both.
Le...What Luke Lea said, why take a risk, buy both.<br /><br />Left/liberals like to complain that the 2000 election was fixed. I say that if thats true why would the same fixers take a break in 2008. IOW if 2000 was fixed, so was 2008. The people pulling Bush's strings must ultimately be the same ones pulling Obama's stringsa.<br /><br />They dont like that but they dont have an answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-356230317132284702012-10-30T23:55:36.424-07:002012-10-30T23:55:36.424-07:00All these commenters are missing the point. Foreig...All these commenters are missing the point. Foreign potentates would want to buy the Republicans. Democrats are clearly going to self-destruct the country regardless. Scroll back a few posts and take a look at the chart of the Obama supporters vs. Romney supporters. It's starkly producers versus consumers.<br /><br />Republicans strike me as Churchill's Americans, they can always be counted on to do what's right, after exhausting all other possibilities. If you want to prevent them from eventually doing what's right, you need to buy them off.AllanFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45955406274700705862012-10-30T23:42:29.084-07:002012-10-30T23:42:29.084-07:00Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?Orthodoxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88890624924062509972012-10-30T23:10:01.179-07:002012-10-30T23:10:01.179-07:00Whiskey, you're wrong.
You can't "bu...Whiskey, you're wrong.<br /><br />You can't "buy" dems to force every American to buy insurance from the evil insurance companies. Oops!<br /><br />You can't "buy" dems to kill thousands of civilians with flying robots. Oops!<br /><br />You can't "buy" dems to help cover up that Israel sent 8 F-18s on a bombing run to attack Darfur/Sudan (!). Oops!<br /><br />You can't "buy" dems to essentially turn over control of the entire financial system to the biggest and most corrupt wall street banks. Oops!<br /><br /><br />etc. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com