tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post5660360121322061439..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: NYT: Luo see Obama as "meal ticket"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45147457442805333852008-03-04T23:24:00.000-08:002008-03-04T23:24:00.000-08:00While agreeing that the Luo are proud of Obama, an...While agreeing that the Luo are proud of Obama, and possibly hoping to benefit from his high position (which is only too human), at least his half brother did not show up for a meal, a thing that cannot be said of Jimmy Carter and other prominent American politicians.Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05676167615981895061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25723513162862399872008-03-03T04:09:00.000-08:002008-03-03T04:09:00.000-08:00For someone who uses the extended family as a meta...For someone who uses the extended family as a metaphor, you often don't seem to understand the dynamic.<BR/><BR/>The default model of human organization is a large extended family. An individual born into such a group receives protection from the dangers of life from the group in exchange for unquestioning and total loyalty. Ethics, are in effect to reduced to "does it help my group?" in which case it's okay. And being disloyal (harming the groups interests whether intentional or not) is the worst form of betrayal.<BR/><BR/>It's not that big men have to be coaxed into supporting people, their self-image as a good person requires them to help their group as much as possible.<BR/><BR/>Obama's big problem with Kenya will be that all Kenyan sides will assume that he wants to do everything possible to help his group (in the case the Luo). The Kikuyu might not like such a situation but they'd understand, even respect it to a certain extent while envying the Luo their good fortune.<BR/><BR/>If he does not openly favor the Luo, then _all_ sides (and a big chunk of Subsaharan Africa (and a lot of the middle east) will regard him as a person with no honor or integrity.<BR/><BR/>Similarly, I don't believe that he's a 'secret' Muslim for a second. But his ties to Muslims won't help the US with the middle east. They'll most likely see his Christianity as opportunistic and unethical (and again an example of turning his back on his group and bringing dishonor to them).<BR/><BR/>None of this is necessarily a reason to vote against him but some more reasonable expectations about what he can and cannot do (and why) would be nice.michael farrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10232229721381140090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55868671561844385252008-03-03T00:29:00.000-08:002008-03-03T00:29:00.000-08:00I couldn’t believe this was in the NYT. I mean the...I couldn’t believe this was in the NYT. I mean they usually deliberately omit anything which could put blacks in a bad light. Looks like their journalist was simply freaked out about the African reality, and by extension what’s coming to the US through Barry O. <BR/><BR/>But this is exactly what Africa is like. In fact daily life in Africa is really depressing and boring. Everybody is scrounging around for the last remnants of colonial or Apartheid-era abundance, having just chased those evil whites out of the place at all costs. And when foreigners come along, the only thought is how to shake them down (bowl shaped hands).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59471952846042758212008-03-02T23:23:00.000-08:002008-03-02T23:23:00.000-08:00There have been various exposes of the role NGOs a...There have been various exposes of the role NGOs and the UN plays in Africa. It is essentially the Foreign Legion for the Davos set of rich, wealthy, and terminally bored Westerners. One woman wrote about her time in refugee camps having public sex with various African men. NGOs and folks like Bono, Jolie, Geldof use Africa as a prop for moral preening among themselves.<BR/><BR/>Obama's one bill is I kid you not, "Global Tax on America" designed to pay over 800 Billion to Africa. <BR/><BR/>Of course with the Chinese becoming heavily involved in Africa for resources things will become interesting there. <BR/><BR/>Assuming Obama does not win I expect Africa to fade as a prop to be replaced with something equally as trendy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80801833854165957212008-03-02T22:16:00.000-08:002008-03-02T22:16:00.000-08:00Obama sees Uncle Sam as an ATM for sub-Saharan Afr...Obama sees Uncle Sam as an ATM for sub-Saharan Africa.<BR/><BR/>And the Republicans will go along.<BR/><BR/>Nothing like a photo op in a Third World cesspool - but I repeat myself - to get in good with the hangers on, the do-gooders, and the NGOs in D.C.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com