tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post6001475612688666190..comments2024-03-15T20:52:26.967-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: What you get in trouble for is saying out loud what everybody else already figures is trueUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger93125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13160057362739229702010-06-14T14:04:19.868-07:002010-06-14T14:04:19.868-07:00Anonymous (talking of availability of technical, c...Anonymous (talking of availability of technical, college, and PG studies via the Net):<br /><br />I'm not unaware nor discount those developments. However, it makes not the slightest dent in the mass--from kindergarten on--receiving (essentially) political and attitudinal indoctrination foisted on the (paying) public by those who have formed the "progressive" elite now for nearly a century (and, to a degree, even earlier).<br /><br />As things are going now, it would not surprise me at all, if in a few years, there are fewer and fewer attractive job openings for many of those taking advantage of improved higher-end education. It's not only necessary that a "smart fraction" receive that education enabling adequate performance. Some indeterminable but relatively small fraction of those must also be endowed (and naturally are) by both innovative and entrepreneurial spirit but not hampered at every turn by statist interventionism and politically-correct, egalitarian, socialist gobbledygook. Though we've never had quite the degree of personal and economic freedom which might be "optimum," from some particular viewpoint, we've had a hell of a lot more during most of our history--during the time of America's meteoric rise.<br /><br />When I was younger, it was common to hear socialist opinion and propaganda--from people who were socialists or left-leaning, and avowedly so. But, as time has passed, it's come to a point where you can hear the same claptrap from people who have no idea that what they're promoting is nonsense--or socialist (and might even be offended were you to tell them so).Gene Bermannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50504446450563686682010-06-14T07:53:03.892-07:002010-06-14T07:53:03.892-07:00Now I have to buy an Ottoman.Now I have to buy an Ottoman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-11523704540571996712010-06-14T01:45:49.728-07:002010-06-14T01:45:49.728-07:00...this article is only the second time I have eve...<i>...this article is only the second time I have ever heard of this curious surname.</i><br /><br />You've obviously never been to Quebec. There are thousands of them there. Schools, hospitals, and tire stores all carry the name, and Michael Sarrazin had a fairly successful Hollywood career as a leading man in the 1960s and 70s.CJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22922662016279060262010-06-13T16:38:39.783-07:002010-06-13T16:38:39.783-07:00The next revolution will be replacing college dipl...<i>The next revolution will be replacing college diploma's with simple online tests that demonstrate your ability to perform economically valuable tasks. Want a job in a company? Take a battery of tests that show you can either do it or learn it quickly.</i><br /><br />Here you are, got what you want right here: the [US} Armed forces Qualification Test set:<br /><br /><br /><br /><i><br />The Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery (ASVAB) is a multiple choice test, administered by the United States Military Entrance Processing Command, used to determine qualification for enlistment in the United States armed forces. </i><br /><br /><i> ... Examinees also receive a score on what is called the Armed Forces Qualification Test (AFQT). AFQT scores are computed using the Standard Scores from four ASVAB subtests: Arithmetic Reasoning (AR), Mathematics Knowledge (MK), Paragraph Comprehension (PC), and Word Knowledge (WK). AFQT scores are reported as percentiles between 1-99. An AFQT percentile score indicates the percentage of examinees in a reference group that scored at or below that particular score. For current AFQT scores, the reference group is a sample of 18 to 23 year old youth who took the ASVAB as part of a national norming study conducted in 1997. Thus, an AFQT score of 90 indicates that the examinee scored as well as or better than 90% of the nationally-representative sample of 18 to 23 year old youth. An AFQT score of 50 indicates that the examinee scored as well as or better than 50% of the nationally-representative sample.... </i><br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armed_Services_Vocational_Aptitude_BatteryDavid Davenportnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90675444243700514112010-06-13T11:45:35.682-07:002010-06-13T11:45:35.682-07:00"There won't be "turnaround" or..."There won't be "turnaround" or improvement in either economic or social conditions possible without COMPLETE abandonment of the entire system of public instruction (kindergarten thru postgraduate, regardless of field). Though not the cause of our general problems, it's an observable accompaniment to those problems and effectively bars substantive improvement."<br /><br />The internet is successfully competing with "public"(government) schools and universities as we speak. There is better curriculum online now than in most Ivy League universities. You can audit entire postgraduate courses in mathematics or physics e.g. http://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm.<br /><br />The next revolution will be replacing college diploma's with simple online tests that demonstrate your ability to perform economically valuable tasks. Want a job in a company? Take a battery of tests that show you can either do it or learn it quickly.<br /><br />Constant feedback from companies about their workforce during performance evaluations and exit interviews could be used to continually improve the tests. The company running the tests could be a non-profit entity selling subscriptions to companies in need of specialized workers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31427354569316951532010-06-13T08:06:26.658-07:002010-06-13T08:06:26.658-07:00Off topic, but in the 1.5 years since the election...Off topic, but in the 1.5 years since the election, do you know if there's been any research following up on the Obama effect, the hypothesis that having a Black president would raise Black test scores by making academics seem cool, and boosting self esteem? That is, has anyone bothered to check whether the racial gap has narrowed after November 2008?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48317210431312029742010-06-13T01:42:24.038-07:002010-06-13T01:42:24.038-07:00Zachary Latif,
You're talking n...Zachary Latif,<br /> You're talking nonsense.Pakistanis in Britain 'stick out like a sore thumb',simply because they are a very alien ethnic group, with alien phenotypes, customs, religion, language, habits, clothing and vrything else that matters, but of course in all of thee things they are vry similar to Afghans.<br /> There has been massive Polish immigration to England recetly.They do not jar as much as Pakistanis do, although their language and customs are different to the English, phenotypically the difference is slight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47001914241662377352010-06-13T01:19:27.604-07:002010-06-13T01:19:27.604-07:00Sarrazini -- Could be an Italian name. Golfer Gene...Sarrazini -- Could be an Italian name. Golfer Gene Sarazen (1902-1999) was born Eugenio Saraceni.Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67351309877626609702010-06-13T01:17:01.804-07:002010-06-13T01:17:01.804-07:00Yes, the context was that Franklin's political...Yes, the context was that Franklin's political opponents in Pennsylvania, the Quakers, were recruiting Germans of similar religious inclinations to come to Pennsylvania. Hence, the dubious claim that Germans and even Swedes were swarthy. Also, he was promoting an English-Indian alliance at the time, so there's some stuff in it about preserving America for the Red and the White.<br /><br />The rest of the essay is the most insightful social analysis published in America in its generation -- Malthus had to admit a half century later in his second edition that it contains much of his theory -- but it's not as polished as most of Franklin's published works. He wrote it in 1751 and didn't publish it until 1754, and then without really perfecting it.Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88250113673352423272010-06-13T01:09:25.771-07:002010-06-13T01:09:25.771-07:00"Those persons then converted to Protestantis..."Those persons then converted to Protestantism after Martel defeated them"<br /><br />What did they do for the 800 years in between the Battle of Tours and the Protestant Reformation?ATBOTLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25140053449287706062010-06-13T00:46:00.829-07:002010-06-13T00:46:00.829-07:00"Look at what Ben Franklin had to say about t..."Look at what Ben Franklin had to say about this matter in 1751.<br /><br />Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth"<br /><br />Steve has addressed a similar quote from Ben Franklin before which he had made in regards to immigration and the U.S.<br /><br />My guess is that Franklin was ruling in or out white people based on competition while trying to make it sound scientific. The examples of Swedes and Germans as members of the swarthy group are so extreme that I would bet dollars to doughnuts that the above quote was said in the context of an immigration discussion.<br /><br />It is true that very much of the discussion about who belongs to what category is based on competition for wives and resources. And they can be extreme about this. I once had a guy who liked me tell me that it wasn't enough for a couple to be of the same race, but they needed to be of the same complexion and looks, too.<br />Well this would have been quite a problem for me according to his definition as there aren't too many pale, freckled redheaded men running around. But how convenient! He was one! LOL!Dahlianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73464935049845239512010-06-12T22:07:17.804-07:002010-06-12T22:07:17.804-07:00Right now any mention of race and/or group differe...<i>Right now any mention of race and/or group differences in IQ immediately triggers the assumption that if groups were indeed different under the skin then the smarter group would end up trying to kill all of the less smart group. The person may or may not know anything about HBD but they know they don't want genocide. </i><br /><br />Wrong... as history has shown consistently, in case of war, it's smarter groups trying to kill other smarter groups in conventional warfare (World Wars I and II), dumber groups killing other dumber groups in disorganized slaughtering matches with a trapping of conventional warfare (Darfur, Rwanda, and other such African take-outs), and smarter groups using the dumber groups for cheap labor.<br /><br />If you'll notice, generally speaking, a smarter group never gets into a conventional war with a dumber group, or if it does, it doesn't last very long (the Iraq War). Eventually, the dumber groups drive out or slaughter the smarter groups' people or troops living amongst them (Iraq War, Vietnam War, revolutionary Haiti, anti-Chinese riots in Southeast Asia...)corvinusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56898266349845610982010-06-12T19:07:10.011-07:002010-06-12T19:07:10.011-07:00OT, but this is to address the comments about Ital...OT, but this is to address the comments about Italians being considered white. Look at what Ben Franklin had to say about this matter in 1751.<br /><br /><i>Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/documents/documents_p2.cfm?doc=233" rel="nofollow">Source</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17603881349983722242010-06-12T19:01:52.692-07:002010-06-12T19:01:52.692-07:00I've never priorly heard of the individual in ...I've never priorly heard of the individual in question, but one thing I can deduce about this "tired old white christian male" is that he isn't short and fat, both relevant points that would have made it in to his description otherwise.<br /><br />He may or may not be bald, if he were young and that were left out we'd know for sure, similarly if the spokesman was someone other than a muslim we would have expected the epithet of "straight" to make a showing as well.<br /><br />Straight short fat bald white Christian males deserve every calumny. It's in the bible somewhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67518207818239385652010-06-12T18:47:36.441-07:002010-06-12T18:47:36.441-07:00"Sarrazin" doesn't sound very German..."Sarrazin" doesn't sound very German.adsfadfafnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12509010919956356172010-06-12T18:32:27.819-07:002010-06-12T18:32:27.819-07:00"I've often heard Germany got dumber when..."I've often heard Germany got dumber when it kicked the Jews out, white US got smarter. "<br /><br />Often heard it from whom? After the war, several thousand top German scientists -- reluctant Nazis naturally (including our own Werner von Braun) -- were divided between Russia and the United States. Their technology was so advanced that some theorized (I won't go there) that they were closer to the atomic bomb than anyone imagined not to mention any number of other top secret activities. Still, over here Oppenheimer was working on the atom bomb and actually made one, there might be something to that. Fortunately the reformed Nazi scientists (surely they were reformed) turned their talents to the space race and in 1957 Sputnik knocked the socks off Americans. Who'd a thunk it? Most famous quote from The Right Stuff, "how could that happen? Our Germans are smarter their Germans!"<br />Eliminating a smart section of the population was not good for business ultimately, but German technology was hardly dependent on the Jews and their technological advances began long before Jewish students and scientists were interacting with the larger community to any extent.globalistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-35856762897281713862010-06-12T17:49:09.068-07:002010-06-12T17:49:09.068-07:00My parents decorated their den Ottoman-style. I th...My parents decorated their den Ottoman-style. I think it was fashionable in the 1950s. They had an upholstered footstool they referred to as "the ottoman." Tipped on its side, my dog slept in it. <br /><br />It gets cold in Central Asia, so it's a nice look for a den -- very cozy.Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81118887232383123422010-06-12T17:45:39.681-07:002010-06-12T17:45:39.681-07:00It's funny how liberals contradict themselves....It's funny how liberals contradict themselves. They say immigration is good because the newcomers bring something BETTER than what the natives have. <br />So, it's okay to say immigrants make the nation 'smarter' but it's wrong to say some immigrants make the nation dumber. <br /><br />I've often heard Germany got dumber when it kicked the Jews out, white US got smarter. <br />Well, if some immigrants can make a nation smarter, then other immigrants must make it dumber. That's no brainer. <br /><br />But PC says white nations must praise non-white immigrants, no matter how dumb(or illegal) they may be. <br /><br />In truth, some immigrants make a place smarter, some make it dumber. If US took in a million Germans or Japanese, it'd do better in IQ than if it took in a million Jamaicans or Nigerians. OTOH, when it comes to sports and funky music, the blacks might add more.asdfadsfasfasdfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41595591048950899082010-06-12T17:40:38.189-07:002010-06-12T17:40:38.189-07:00Thought Crime: thinking the 'wrong' thing....Thought Crime: thinking the 'wrong' thing. <br /><br />Know Crime: knowing the 'wrong' thing. <br /><br />Look Crime: seeing the 'wrong' thing.afasfasdfasfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37512240758063582102010-06-12T17:24:32.949-07:002010-06-12T17:24:32.949-07:00"Did the Ottoman upper class ever contribute ..."Did the Ottoman upper class ever contribute anything at all to science or technology? I don't think so."<br /><br />I beg to differ, good Sir. Just as one small example, I present to you an invention that this fine civilization produced from a time long before the beginning of the Reformation in your Western "so-called" Civilization.<br /><br />Behold, from an empire build around support for your legs:<br /><br />Exhibit A, the Ottoman:<br /><br />http://www.target.com/Ottomans-Living-Room-Furniture/b?ie=UTF8&node=13587111<br /><br /><br />Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week. Lucky for you it's Saturday already. Try the Shish Kabob.Mel Tormenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59153491530490779642010-06-12T16:42:06.744-07:002010-06-12T16:42:06.744-07:00... here is a long article about a "political...<i> ... here is a long article about a "politically incorrect" proposal by a respected economist to end poverty by letting successful countries establish "charter cities" in unsuccessful ones.</i><br /><br />That's a good idea. Nice, new charter cities in Central America -- to be populated by Hispanics deported from the USA.<br /><br />And maybe some penal colonies in Afghanistan for those convicted of felonies in the USA.David Davenportnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-92106240553801347252010-06-12T15:08:29.908-07:002010-06-12T15:08:29.908-07:00"Did the Ottoman upper class ever contribute ..."Did the Ottoman upper class ever contribute anything at all to science or technology? I don't think so."<br /><br />The Ottoman ruling class had trouble just ruling its possessions. A warrior slave class (from the Ukraine region, Mamluks/Kipchaks) effectively ruled Egypt until they were overthrown by Muhammed Ali who was an Albanian from Macedonia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78915304438199748142010-06-12T14:55:46.524-07:002010-06-12T14:55:46.524-07:00Regarding the whiteness of Italians, I've done...Regarding the whiteness of Italians, I've done research into my family tree. All my Sicilian forebearers who came to this country in the 19th century had "white" written on their census records and travel logs. Italians were never officially classified as anything else. <br /><br />Regarding Hispanics in California, the majority are Mexican mestizos, not indigenous Guatemalans. Their IQ is likely between 90 - 95, since a range of 90 - 98 has been recorded in Mexico among the mestizo population, with the whiter mestizos having the higher average. Why anonymous is substituting Guatemalan IQs for those of Mexican mestizos, I don't know, but it certainly throws off the numbers he so laboriously labored to calculate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44594909954787046482010-06-12T14:54:46.381-07:002010-06-12T14:54:46.381-07:00"Liberals don't look for this much among ..."Liberals don't look for this much among white people but they are convinced that black and brown people, more recently liberated, will spawn many doctors, scientists, lawyers and businessmen."<br /><br /><br />Liberals do have some quaint ideas, but their constant push for 'access to abortion for poor women' who can't take care of their kids properly is their version of eugenics. Poor is a euphemism for black and hispanic because those women have the most abortions per capita. I think the libs get annoyed because they can't come out and say that abortion for poor blacks is the balance to affirmative action and they wish that conservatives would "get" the nuance of abortion on demand. It is a disgusting position, but there it is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32720524223373576392010-06-12T14:30:54.863-07:002010-06-12T14:30:54.863-07:00When I visited Ukraine, one of the folk sayings I ...When I visited Ukraine, one of the folk sayings I encountered was "dumb as a Turk." call it sour grapes, or call it centuries of experience. This much is true: for sitting on one of best pieces of real estate in the world for going on a millenium, TR's economic development is woeful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com