tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post6137868510710985880..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: MSM starts to notice Obama's biography gapUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29648500452656704922008-08-05T05:32:00.000-07:002008-08-05T05:32:00.000-07:00"170 IQ is not so ridiculous... America is a ..."170 IQ is not so ridiculous... America is a big country...You're forgetting that he's half white."<BR/><BR/> How could I do that, what with his typical white grandparents who raised him, and all that jazz.<BR/>170 IQ is ridiculous because we all now know a little about him, and his 57 US states. <BR/><BR/> He's no genius and he's being run by Brzezinski & Co. He has speechwriters that worked for Clinton. <BR/> <BR/> By presidential candidate measures, the only thing that makes him out-of-the-ordinary-mediocre is his color, and that's wearing on people. In any case, it's irrational to consider his African ancestry a plus for any reason other than the black vote. This ancestry has no common precedent for creating creating just, efficient government, or for creating anything much at all really. Well--music I guess,but the past couple decades, even that's become a dirty joke,not a creative endeavor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24169074750046466722008-07-31T04:19:00.000-07:002008-07-31T04:19:00.000-07:00"Richard H",Your ma got it right. In the old South..."Richard H",<BR/>Your ma got it right. In the old South Africa Afrikaners were known to be unafraid of blacks. They would take them on even when outnumbered. In Angola South African troops often punched thorough battles at odds as high as 1:35 coming out with only a few bleeding noses and trashing the opposing black armies. We used to call it “houding”, which is similar to “attitude”, something black Americans instinctively understand and respect. It’s actually not what sissies call racism nowadays, but rather group animus. Call it being street-wise. You can compare it to the rivalry between Israelis and Arabs. Afrikaners were fighting against blacks on an equal level for resources, power and survival. It’s not that colonial or Southern Plantation elite condescension but the will to get down and dirty for survival. The toughest group wins. That kind of attitude is way of the meter in our crazy modern PC world but it is the attitude which blacks understand on a gut level. That's the level at which the Obama campaign really works. <BR/><BR/>Whilst portraying him as an intellectual, they are really intimidating the soft pussy whites. Blacks know a lot about intimidation. During the Apartheid unrests, intimidation was the major way in which the ANC coerced the other blacks to toe the line and join the protests. They killed a lot of people that way. In Zimbabwe, Mugabe's violence is really just voter intimidation. That's why it’s so ludicrous that the NAACP sues any state governments for voter intimidation. What voter intimidation really means you could study recently in Kenya (Obama's hinterland), and Zimbabwe. That's the real deal and your mom is right that most whites don't have the stomach for it. It is gruesome, bloody and very primitive and you have to fight for a long time to come out on top. The old Rhodesians and the Afrikaners had the stomach for it because it concerned their direct survival, however the western elites turned off the oxygen. Obama understands that he can intimidate whites along this line. It is very subtle now but will become more overt later on. In a way it’s Schadenfreude for Rhodesians and Afrikaners because we know the American whites don’t have the stomach for what’s coming. They are going to try and buy off or co-opt the black elite but it will not work. Some poster somewhere before called it “karma”, though I’m not sure that word gets used in the original Buddhist context.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17967764914588195092008-07-30T10:48:00.000-07:002008-07-30T10:48:00.000-07:00Isn't all this "how clever is he?" stuff a bit bes...Isn't all this "how clever is he?" stuff a bit beside the point? Here in Britain our newish PM, Mr Brown, is evidently distinctly more intelligent than his predecessor, Mr Blair, and much good it's done him, or us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78921898664492727262008-07-30T04:19:00.000-07:002008-07-30T04:19:00.000-07:00For Minister Farrakhan I would prefer to vote:Mini...For Minister Farrakhan I would prefer to vote:<BR/><BR/>Minister Farrakhan <BR/>Who Are The Neo-Conservatives? <BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHefZ9s9iYERoberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00740668904926516649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45326766457407875872008-07-29T22:29:00.000-07:002008-07-29T22:29:00.000-07:00170 IQ? No, that's Einstein or Gauss.120 IQ? No, t...<I>170 IQ? No, that's Einstein or Gauss.<BR/>120 IQ? No, that's slightly above your average college grad.<BR/><BR/>Obama has an IQ comparable to top Harvard Law School grads. Which is to say: on the level of Bill Clinton and verbally focused.<BR/><BR/>Romney is probably smarter than Obama. So is Wes Clark. But Obama is highly intelligent. Of course, since his premises are bad, he will reason the country into a black hole. (Ooops, was that racist?)</I><BR/><BR/>The best post on Obama's IQ in steve's comments ever, from what I've seen. Yeah, he's probably in the 145 range. Smart, much smarter than the average person, smarter than most of our recent presidents, present politicians. And with his bad premises and values combined with his apparently excellent speaking ability, that makes him extremely dangerous if elected. I'm rooting like crazy for split government next year, as impossible as it seems.<BR/><BR/>It's really annoying following posts here: you get great, informative ones which you wouldn't get anywhere else, but there are so many racist, pathetically unfair posts that the whole mass is just a chore to wade throughAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33180256728057149372008-07-29T21:51:00.000-07:002008-07-29T21:51:00.000-07:00170 is about one thousandth of one percent even am...<I>170 is about one thousandth of one percent even among whites.</I><BR/><BR/>One in a hundred thousand isn't so ridiculous; the USA is huge and Sen. Obama's a pretty special guy. Sure, it's probably just propaganda, but 170 is not outside the realm of possibility.<BR/><BR/><I>Among blacks is, well, even less, and even less than you'd think because their curve is narrower.</I><BR/><BR/>You're forgetting that he's half white.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45401345389582962202008-07-29T18:38:00.000-07:002008-07-29T18:38:00.000-07:00He's verbally adept, and he had good editors.This ...He's verbally adept, and he had good editors.<BR/><BR/>This gives him a high IQ?<BR/><BR/>Does wearing a suit mean a defendant is respectable?<BR/><BR/>A bit more skepticism, please. Aren't blacks, as far as they go, strong on average at the spoken word? And coming to the written word: when you have powerful editors and nests of well-placed well-wishers grooming you...connect the dots.<BR/><BR/>There is no evidence Obummer had a ghostwriter (and some interested testimony to the contrary), but neither is there any *evidence* he penned his tomes all by himself. After all, who does? JFK the young warrior, savior and genius didn't (revealed later).<BR/><BR/>The truth is we have no idea what Obama's intelligence is. Being graduated from Harvard and serving as the law review's unpublished mascot or masthead requires no IQ over 115, the testimony of self-identified professional academics to the contrary notwithstanding. (One wonders what some of these Harvard-worshippers might say about Yale graduates, by contrast.) I was graduated from NYU at the top of my class without ever studying, cheating, or schmoozing; and could with only a little effort pen an application essay to make words fall away and my thoughts wiggle in all their freakish and fascinating variety. Means nothing. I may be as dumb as a rock (many graduates, including from Harvard, are, at least in some significant area of life). What counts in measuring IQ is an actual IQ test. Proxies are only that; and a college education is a poor one, in my opinion, regardless of which grove of academe we're puzzling over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87719197267363560252008-07-29T09:38:00.000-07:002008-07-29T09:38:00.000-07:00Mr. O, a 170 IQ? Do you realize how rare that is, ...Mr. O, a 170 IQ? Do you realize how rare that is, Mr. O bloggers? Even Einstein is usually estimated at 160 or so, although Einstein is now considered somewhat overrated and not really the best reference point for higest IQ.<BR/> 170 is about one thousandth of one percent even among whites. Among blacks is, well, even less, and even less than you'd think because their curve is narrower. An occasional one comes along, but with extraordinary rarity.<BR/> With 170 IQ he'd be the Douglas McArthur of black Ivy League graduates.<BR/> No. I don't think so, especially considering the rather mediocre-intelligence person he married. He's smart enough--certainly he appears smarter than the current occupant of the White House. But 170? No way. The Obama bloggers are all over the place with their propaganda and they're very clever, inventing former guidance counselors and invading places that care about stuff like IQ. <BR/>And you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool them all, all the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53612592246138971732008-07-29T09:15:00.000-07:002008-07-29T09:15:00.000-07:00"I read somewhere that Levantine Christians are of..."I read somewhere that Levantine Christians are of European stock. Maybe settlers from Italy or white ex-slaves? That would be an interesting study. No wonder the Israelis like cooperating with the Christians in Lebanon."<BR/><BR/>My dad is from Israel and his family for the most part perfers the Jews to the Palestianians. My dad is also an engineer though so that means he's been to college and took in the leftist indoctrination and sees the Americans and Israelis as colonialist oppressors. He's caught Obamamania. <BR/><BR/>My mom on the other hand grew up on a farm and has a much healthier attitude towards Muslims and our minorities here. I remember a conversation I had with her while she was watching an Obama rally.<BR/><BR/>Mom: Why are all the whites going crazy for the black? After all the stuff that his church and wife say? Don't they notice that he hates them? <BR/><BR/>Me: Mom, you don't understand. That's the point. That's how they prove how un-racist they are.<BR/><BR/>Mom: WTF? No, they're just afraid of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83375531026983978802008-07-29T07:44:00.000-07:002008-07-29T07:44:00.000-07:00"dearieme, Twenty years ago, I lived in the same b..."dearieme, Twenty years ago, I lived in the same block of flats as Gordon Brown, who often had to be chased down to pay his share of the block fees. Are we seeing a pattern here?" Hats off to you, sir. It was a rent cheque that the bugger bounced on me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25319051351843159592008-07-29T02:00:00.000-07:002008-07-29T02:00:00.000-07:00Richard H,I read somewhere that Levantine Christia...Richard H,<BR/>I read somewhere that Levantine Christians are of European stock. Maybe settlers from Italy or white ex-slaves? That would be an interesting study. No wonder the Israelis like cooperating with the Christians in Lebanon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57059260795706900912008-07-28T22:13:00.000-07:002008-07-28T22:13:00.000-07:00Actually, I think one interesting thing about Obam...Actually, I think one interesting thing about Obama is that he's kind of unashamedly intellectual. I suspect this is required, to defeat the stereotype of blacks not being smart. But it's kind of nice anyway, seeing someone who's not pretending to be dumber than he is, so he can avoid offending voters who don't like smart people. <BR/><BR/>I don't worry about his intelligence at all. About his policies, some, about his worldview, quite a bit, and about his utter, breathtaking lack of experience suitable for the job, a great deal, but not his intelligence. He's surely as bright as any of the last half dozen folks we've had in the white house.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58226038540835432008-07-28T22:04:00.000-07:002008-07-28T22:04:00.000-07:00170 IQ? No, that's Einstein or Gauss. 120 IQ? No, ...170 IQ? No, that's Einstein or Gauss. <BR/>120 IQ? No, that's slightly above your average college grad. <BR/><BR/>Obama has an IQ comparable to top Harvard Law School grads. Which is to say: on the level of Bill Clinton and verbally focused. <BR/><BR/>Romney is probably smarter than Obama. So is Wes Clark. But Obama is highly intelligent. Of course, since his premises are bad, he will reason the country into a black hole. (Ooops, was that racist?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60826607836059691772008-07-28T19:31:00.000-07:002008-07-28T19:31:00.000-07:00David Davenport said... "Re Hillary knowing someth...David Davenport said... <BR/>"Re Hillary knowing something damaging about NoBama: <BR/><BR/>rumors of a viedotape of the Missus making inflammatory remarks aboiut whites."<BR/><BR/>Hmmmm. <BR/><BR/>If I was some ruthless Political Strategist working for McCain, I would try to get Michele riled - by any means necessary - so as to get her to go off on "Whitey." <BR/><BR/>and I mean, get her to go off in a way that would even make the blood of a die hard Obamautamaton curdle.<BR/><BR/>I don't think it will take much, and I'm sure she will not disappoint. She might end up doing it like so many Blacks do, by completely letting herself go, and always without the slightest concern of ever being stopped, even by Whites who are there with their children. Like in Subways, Subway Stations, Bus stops, Bus stations, Public Schools, Hospitals, Concert Halls, Street Corners...wait, I'm not finished, Public Libraries, Museums, Open-Air Atriums, Waterfront Vistas, Tourist Attractions, National Parks, National Preserves, Restaurants, Restaurant Parking Lots, Sporting Events, Sport Centers, Sport Center Parking Lots, Casinos, yep, Casino Parking Lots, Major Cities, Small Towns, Foriegn Countries, Airports, Airplanes, Shopping Malls (how could I forget that one?) and Nightclubs.<BR/><BR/>But never in an Aligator Swamp.<BR/><BR/>Now THAT would be a good place for them to go off on Whitey. In fact, an Aligator Swamp should be the designated place for all non-stop, anti-White, ranting by people like her. <BR/><BR/>But first, we've got to get her to go off. I think it can be done.<BR/><BR/>Either way, you've got to admit, the thought does have its charms.<BR/><BR/>PitbullexpressAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70900459126195824682008-07-28T13:42:00.000-07:002008-07-28T13:42:00.000-07:00You guys who think Obambi has an IQ of 170 have dr...You guys who think Obambi has an IQ of 170 have drunk the koolaid.<BR/><BR/>And you're also misunderestimating McCain - granted, I'm not crazy about the guy, but he was the clear winner of the GOP debates, and Mitt Romney [who has a far, far higher IQ than Obambi] looked, by comparison, like a deer in the headlights.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51666886297515233832008-07-28T13:31:00.000-07:002008-07-28T13:31:00.000-07:00"I seem to recall reading an article about the pla..."I seem to recall reading an article about the playwright August Wilson a decade ago which discussed a whole subculture in regional theatre run by and for blacks but within which Mr. Wilson's name was not well known at all. The article may have been in New York magazine. It is possible that Mr. Obama took his girl to a production like that."<BR/><BR/>I believe actor/writer Tyler Perry (now an auteur of black-oriented films and TV series) got his start in such plays.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10121770870960278532008-07-28T09:23:00.000-07:002008-07-28T09:23:00.000-07:00Shouting Thomas - Harleys are shit. Go ride a real...Shouting Thomas - Harleys are shit. Go ride a real bike.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18860534182421114592008-07-28T05:13:00.000-07:002008-07-28T05:13:00.000-07:00LN, I stopped following football a couple years ag...LN, I stopped following football a couple years ago, but didn't everyone think the Superbowl last year was "as good as theirs," and didn't they go home without rings?<BR/><BR/>Just saying, that's why they play the games. And the media isn't the best scale for this, what with using their own thumb and all.<BR/><BR/>Personally I think the Republicans control this election. If they play hardball they win, if not they don't.Svigorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397917915404344439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30537499005110621172008-07-28T01:03:00.000-07:002008-07-28T01:03:00.000-07:001) Magna cum laude from Harvard Law can't be easil...1) Magna cum laude from Harvard Law can't be easily faked. There's no way Obama has just a 120 IQ. One of the reasons Steve is credible is that he readily admits factual points like this. Lucius Vorenus, I've quietly read and agree with a lot of your other posts (especially re: "the situation is hopeless") but I do think you're incorrect on this one. <BR/><BR/><BR/>2) Shouting Thomas equates the "middle class" with the low IQ. Well, hate to break it to you ST, but the middle class is not the underclass. <BR/><BR/>The problems associated with low IQ are real and they are terrible. Low IQ whites may not have the same levels of aggression and libido that low IQ NAMs have, but they're still high enough to cause you to keep your children out of those neighborhoods. Who wants to live near meth heads or Boston's Southies, or send tax dollars to them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45274744528733116412008-07-28T00:25:00.000-07:002008-07-28T00:25:00.000-07:00We tend to get the leaders we deserve. Obama is JF...We tend to get the leaders we deserve. Obama is JFK and Mandela and Bono and some rapper (sorry, I don't know their names) all rolled up in one. There's even a touch of F Scott Fitzgerald about the boy's literary style. He's the ultimate celebrity! What could be more appropriate than a celebrity president for a celebrity obsessed culture?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31021630038522946492008-07-27T23:28:00.000-07:002008-07-27T23:28:00.000-07:00170 IQ? It's possible. We'll never know, though....170 IQ? It's possible. We'll never know, though. President Obama is smart enough not to release his test scores no matter what they are.<BR/><BR/>He's obviously a hell of a lot brighter than McCain, but the people who are impressed by that (like Mr. Sailer, for example) can already see it. Releasing a stratospheric score like 170 would make him come off like a braggart and egghead. Who doesn't have an annoying friend who constantly harps on his high IQ score? On the other hand, if it's lower than expected (say, anything under 130), it'd be a let-down for those who think he's the perfect man.<BR/><BR/>Whatever the case, he's obviously more than smart enough for the job, which is a damn good thing because it's as good as his.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71407783360147498132008-07-27T21:55:00.000-07:002008-07-27T21:55:00.000-07:00I don't see anything in the excerpt that Steve jus...<I> I don't see anything in the excerpt that Steve just posted ["icy lake full of small gold leaves that collected along the shore" - are the leaves IN the lake, or are they ON THE SHORE of the lake???] which would lead me to believe that Obama has an IQ of "172 [or] 166", nor do I see any evidence of "an extremely high verbal IQ, several standard deviations above the norm". </I><BR/><BR/>LOL. Well, it's definitely far better writing than you see in the comment section of this website, so he must have a higher IQ than some of the folks around here who hate him. That excerpt is sort of precious (the funniest conceit is that he's spinning all this Masterpiece Theatre voice-over prose to his old aunt who asked him casually about an ex-gf). But anyway, you can't really judge IQ very precisely from writing, but I used to do quite a lot of grading of college essays, and his books would put him in the top 5 percent of American white college students for sure. It's not just the prose style but the depth of thought -- agree or disagree, he's got a lot going on, those are pretty self-aware books.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, as I always say here, IQ is a very small part of the measure of a person. But I'd be willing to bet Obama's verbal IQ is at least 2 SD above the American population mean, perhaps more like three. I'll bet Steve would agree with me -- although he appears to detest Obama personally, Steve's too clever to confuse IQ and morality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68211745351691259502008-07-27T20:19:00.000-07:002008-07-27T20:19:00.000-07:00Re Hillary knowing something damaging about NoBama...Re Hillary knowing something damaging about NoBama: <BR/><BR/>rumors of a viedotape of the Missus making inflammatory remarks aboiut whites.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37603237428197532008-07-27T19:02:00.000-07:002008-07-27T19:02:00.000-07:00I'm female, but long before I, and others of my ac...<I><BR/>I'm female, but long before I, and others of my acquaintance, heard the "allegations" my radar detected something icky and sicky about him, but I wasn't sure it had anything to do with sex.<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Oh wow, a gay, half-black president of the US. What could be more perfect. I imagine that everyone at the NY Times would orgasm on November 11 at midnight.<BR/><BR/>In other quarters, like Pandagon, it would make up for the Silky Pony being caught dipping his wick outside the marital vagina.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49843478264659784172008-07-27T17:12:00.000-07:002008-07-27T17:12:00.000-07:00Obama looks stick thin because of his East African...Obama looks stick thin because of his East African genes.<BR/><BR/>I used to live in Columbus, OH, where - for some bizarre reason - the U.S. government has a policy to resettle tens of thousands of Somalian refugees. These Somalians are all immediately discernible from American (West African) blacks. Also, every single one of them is stick thin, with the same "Starving Somalian" appearance despite obviously not starving here in the U.S.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com