tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post6277739880690248584..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Great moments in privatizationUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68936094824952458722011-10-25T08:29:30.346-07:002011-10-25T08:29:30.346-07:00Mildly related. I know that you've pointed ou...Mildly related. I know that you've pointed out in the past about employers being unable to give written tests that have a disparate racial impact (i.e. all of them). I figured I'd bring up that someone on LinkedIn commented that a prospective employer requested his ACT/SAT scores as part of the interview process. A little bit more of 'written testing by proxy' methinks.<br /><br />It's all rather sloppy as neither test directly tests against the employer's desired skill set (software programming), but I guess it's better than nothing.Evil Sandmichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06094558583013380137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62994084403883145682011-08-25T21:30:28.082-07:002011-08-25T21:30:28.082-07:00“I will drop you off in a strange neighborhood, th...<i>“I will drop you off in a strange neighborhood, then I and four of my friends will run up to you and beat you with clubs...Oh wait, they call that "flash mobbing" today.”</i><br /><br />Are you insinuating that the motivation for “flash mobbing” is racial revenge for Jim Crow?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17205292788365674432011-08-25T01:42:44.988-07:002011-08-25T01:42:44.988-07:00I Am African American woman and I believe that the...I Am African American woman and I believe that the fire exam is just like any other civil service exam. Has anybody consider that some minorities do not want to take this test because they are not interested in being a a firefighter. Why does color always have to be an issue? I want to gain my employment through my experience and education, not by color. I attend John Jay College, I met several firefighters in my class from different parts of New York and New Jersey. They seem to be ok with minorities. So what is the big problem. The exam should remain the same, its common sense and there after you must work hard. Which I believe in. Leave race out of this.Applehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17223154397819695586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33760527128697737292011-08-24T13:36:57.843-07:002011-08-24T13:36:57.843-07:00"Can someone explain to me how Jim Crow was a..."Can someone explain to me how Jim Crow was a bad thing?"<br /><br />Jim Crow humiliated black alphas, and elevated black beta providers in the eyes of black women.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87109277841108926762011-08-24T10:41:48.904-07:002011-08-24T10:41:48.904-07:00"The issues are that blacks (as a race) can&#...<i>"The issues are that blacks (as a race) can't create or sustain a civilization that meets white minimum standards..."</i><br /><br />Even worse, they inevitably degrade any civilization to which they are admitted entrance.<br /><br />The fact that they can never create or sustain civilization just means they don't contribute much positively. That's not really a big deal. There are layabouts in every society.<br /><br />But the fact that they inevitably have a negative impact on any civilization in which they are to be found even in fairly small numbers is a much more serious matter. They tend to be both destructive and dependent which really skews the cost/benefit ratio against any arguments in favor of their presence.Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12832366795232001132011-08-24T07:12:30.339-07:002011-08-24T07:12:30.339-07:00"Can someone explain to me how Jim Crow was a...<i>"Can someone explain to me how Jim Crow was a bad thing?"<br /><br />Well, that would be simple, come to Albuquerque and I will drop you off in a strange neighborhood, then I and four of my friends will run up to you and beat you with clubs...Oh wait, they call that "flash mobbing" today. I guess you think it's a good thing?</i><br /><br />That makes no sense. I could just as well use your example to illustrate how integration is a bad thing. It would certainly make more sense than using it to illustrate how Jim Crow is a bad thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83785338801435797712011-08-24T07:05:40.399-07:002011-08-24T07:05:40.399-07:00P.S., Episcopalians score higher than Jews.P.S., Episcopalians score higher than Jews.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6797763346217135902011-08-24T07:03:25.967-07:002011-08-24T07:03:25.967-07:00Anonymous is also mistaken to conflate pointing ou...Anonymous is also mistaken to conflate pointing out lower black mean IQ and mocking same. The fact is that our society is being increasingly built around the idea that there are no significant cognitive differences between the races. The vast majority of the mocking in fact targets DWLs and this idea, not blacks per se. And regardless of the percentages, the fact remains that pointing out the realities of race and IQ do not constitute mockery, per se. It certainly doesn't substantially motivate me, I assure you. But if, for example, DWLs started doing for children the sorts of things they do for blacks, I would have many mocking words for them and their actions, and it would probably seem to them that I was "attacking kids" and deliberately belittling them, when in fact it would all be down to the DWL fantasies about the equality of adults and children (and the malfeasance that would inevitably flow from that).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54086858851729157362011-08-24T06:49:17.058-07:002011-08-24T06:49:17.058-07:00"The problem with attacking collective pride ...<i>"The problem with attacking collective pride is that you simultaneously attack the pride of the parent in his children, the child in his parents, siblings in one another, civic pride, patriotism, professional pride, etc., etc., etc. It's essentially a misanthropic pastime,"<br /><br />I don't see that at all, my friend. I didn't see anyone rushing to claim Brevik as a close relative. You are all cherry-pickers.</i><br /><br />How does the lack of pride in any particular member of the collective obviate the idea of collective pride?<br /><br />Your example equivalent to calling Americans "cherry-pickers" if they aren't proud of Benedict Arnold.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16557420728165745302011-08-23T21:41:39.925-07:002011-08-23T21:41:39.925-07:00"The problem with attacking collective pride ..."The problem with attacking collective pride is that you simultaneously attack the pride of the parent in his children, the child in his parents, siblings in one another, civic pride, patriotism, professional pride, etc., etc., etc. It's essentially a misanthropic pastime,"<br /><br />I don't see that at all, my friend. I didn't see anyone rushing to claim Brevik as a close relative. You are all cherry-pickers.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44819958138882157332011-08-23T09:18:26.957-07:002011-08-23T09:18:26.957-07:00Yes, and how many universities and charities have ...<i>Yes, and how many universities and charities have YOU established? It is easy to ride on the coattail of other people's achievements, when you have no achievements to call your own. Apparently your kind (white supremacists) have no concept of the loss of face. It would be nice if you are to acquire some.</i><br /><br />So you object to collective pride, but you engage in collective criticism. Cognitively elite, you ain't.<br /><br />The problem with attacking collective pride is that you simultaneously attack the pride of the parent in his children, the child in his parents, siblings in one another, civic pride, patriotism, professional pride, etc., etc., etc. It's essentially a misanthropic pastime, though in many cases it just comes down to being a hater of one group or another.<br /><br /><i>since Asians usually do not go around trumpeting their "higher IQs" the same way you mental midgets do (Asians have a higher quality known as humility).</i><br /><br />Sounds almost like you've got some collective pride going there. You're at least suborning that which you seem to despise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71347550784630512222011-08-23T09:11:52.974-07:002011-08-23T09:11:52.974-07:00On the issue of Asians: most folks who follow HBD ...<i>On the issue of Asians: most folks who follow HBD debates agree that Asians outscore whites on various tests, and they don't generally make efforts to discredit the tests. There is some debate about how much, and about what it all means, but I find the anti-preference against high-scoring Asians quite deplorable.<br /><br />And Jews score highest of all!<br /><br />Honestly, if Asian-Americans make 108% of the white average, I don't care. And yes, I'm a white dude.</i><br /><br />Right, but "underperforming" on tests isn't really the issue. The issues are that blacks (as a race) can't create or sustain a civilization that meets white minimum standards, and blacks are a minority. I.e., you might have more of a tendency to care if you were part of a white minority that is only 12% vs a yellow majority that was 65% or more, but you'd probably care if you suddenly found yourself a member of a race that can't really have the good life without the majority.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54061572130167988182011-08-23T08:50:28.071-07:002011-08-23T08:50:28.071-07:00"You can't fix stupid."
It's to..."You can't fix stupid."<br /><br />It's tough, but I bring my toolbox here every day, and not yet a word of thanks from Sailer.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17523169457073867862011-08-23T08:48:04.207-07:002011-08-23T08:48:04.207-07:00"Can someone explain to me how Jim Crow was a..."Can someone explain to me how Jim Crow was a bad thing?"<br /><br />Well, that would be simple, come to Albuquerque and I will drop you off in a strange neighborhood, then I and four of my friends will run up to you and beat you with clubs...Oh wait, they call that "flash mobbing" today. I guess you think it's a good thing?Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28632389390556994462011-08-23T08:07:56.367-07:002011-08-23T08:07:56.367-07:00Swing a dead cat and you'll find a Catholic ch...<i> Swing a dead cat and you'll find a Catholic charity ready to help it.<br /><br />Asians....?<br />Chinese...?<br />Koreans...?<br />Bueller?<br /><br />Hmm, I was given to understand that you folks had a sense of shame called "loss of face."<br /><br />Guess not, when there's just so much free stuff here for you to gorge on.<br /><br />(spits)" <br /><br />Yes, and how many universities and charities have YOU established? It is easy to ride on the coattail of other people's achievements, when you have no achievements to call your own. Apparently your kind (white supremacists) have no concept of the loss of face. It would be nice if you are to acquire some. </i><br /><br /><br />The Asian apologist concedes the point.<br /><br />He insists Asians are humble about their lack of charity despite their ample ability to provide it. I can understand not being prideful about such a condition.<br /><br />Maybe they need some cultural integration. Something like, " From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51485921417781530242011-08-23T03:38:33.003-07:002011-08-23T03:38:33.003-07:00"Anonymous said...
By my count, Euro-Cat..."Anonymous said...<br /><br /> By my count, Euro-Catholic immigrants have thus far contributed to America: Georgetown University, Fordham University, Boston College, Saint John's University, Notre Dame College, Marymount-Loyola University, countless Catholic hospitals, countless Catholic relief charities, the Little Sisters of the Poor, Xavier High School and Regis High School in New York, countless other centers of Jesuit, Franciscan and Dominican excellence, as well as services for the poor and needy all across this country. Swing a dead cat and you'll find a Catholic charity ready to help it.<br /><br /> Asians....?<br /> Chinese...?<br /> Koreans...?<br /> Bueller?<br /><br /> Hmm, I was given to understand that you folks had a sense of shame called "loss of face."<br /><br /> Guess not, when there's just so much free stuff here for you to gorge on.<br /><br /> (spits)" <br /><br />Yes, and how many universities and charities have YOU established? It is easy to ride on the coattail of other people's achievements, when you have no achievements to call your own. Apparently your kind (white supremacists) have no concept of the loss of face. It would be nice if you are to acquire some. <br /><br />(spits) <br /><br />And even though I do not think he is Asian, and might in fact be black, since Asians usually do not go around trumpeting their "higher IQs" the same way you mental midgets do (Asians have a higher quality known as humility). But his point still stands, that it is hilarious for you people to mock them (I am assuming he is black) for having "lower IQ" in pretty much every single thread, yet get all defensive and high and mighty when the idea of meritocracy swings against your kind (I am assuming you are white). You can't fix stupid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3240143060009512702011-08-22T20:05:01.401-07:002011-08-22T20:05:01.401-07:00I gots to know. How can such an exam discriminate ...I gots to know. How can such an exam discriminate against the race of the test taker? Aren't they very technical? I imagine questions about fire hose rate of flow, water pressure, ladder deployment, oxygen tank time limits, proper manpower deployment, etc. you either studied hard and absorbed it or you didn't. Which questions caused the accusation of racial discrimination? Some examples Mr.Sailer, for those of us in the dark. (oops. sorry. Please don't sue me).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-35551799627875417022011-08-22T18:29:18.434-07:002011-08-22T18:29:18.434-07:00Perhaps the test can be made up by a company with ...Perhaps the test can be made up by a company with an entirely black workforce so there can be no questions. Dare them to see if it can be done.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12793483190635110602011-08-22T13:45:00.922-07:002011-08-22T13:45:00.922-07:00"Compared to living in Africa, slavery and a ..."Compared to living in Africa, slavery and a century of Jim Crow were pretty trivial."<br /><br />Heh. But, for once, svigor doesn't go far enough. I mean, heck - compared to life in any black-governed inner city in America today, Jim Crow was pretty trivial.steve burtonhttp://www.whatswrongwiththeworld.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44727402276481015412011-08-22T10:09:45.650-07:002011-08-22T10:09:45.650-07:00Maya wrote "I just want to know, what is it e...Maya wrote "I just want to know, what is it exactly that costs 3.3 mil?... why didn't other people try to bid it down? I bet a lot of firms would be happy with 2 or even 1 free million bucks. Heck, I'd do it for 200, but I don't have a shiny office... I don't get it."<br /><br /> Maya I think you misunderstand the subtext here: In this instance exorbitant expense "is not a bug ,it's a feature". It can be subsequently pointed to as an indication of purity of heart-see we spared no expense in our pursuit of social justice! All part of the game I'm afraid.kaganovitchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4148864254790791092011-08-22T10:01:26.191-07:002011-08-22T10:01:26.191-07:00They're trying to turn the FDNY into the NOPD....They're trying to turn the FDNY into the NOPD.<br /><br />I think we know which one performs better, and why.Camlostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78528627895075808662011-08-22T08:44:32.048-07:002011-08-22T08:44:32.048-07:00On the issue of Asians: most folks who follow HBD ...On the issue of Asians: most folks who follow HBD debates agree that Asians outscore whites on various tests, and they don't generally make efforts to discredit the tests. There is some debate about how much, and about what it all means, but I find the anti-preference against high-scoring Asians quite deplorable.<br /><br />And Jews score highest of all! <br /><br />Honestly, if Asian-Americans make 108% of the white average, I don't care. And yes, I'm a white dude.Zippynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88703436451484605412011-08-22T08:27:49.966-07:002011-08-22T08:27:49.966-07:00Look, Steve says American-Americans are doomed to ...Look, Steve says American-Americans are doomed to pay the slavery tax, a/k/a welfare, a/k/a gov't preferences in hiring for gov't jobs, etc.<br /><br />Okay, if we *must,* can't we just set these illiterate blacks to doing make-work, like, I dunno, copying, by longhand, old physics texts, or something?<br />Tell them printing presses are racist, and we need the Black Perspective on quantum mechanics. <br /> <br />IOW, give them some kind of highly-paid monkey work to do that it doesn't matter if it's done badly, but will keep them from loitering street corners and flash-mobbing us, while keeping them happily out of crucial industries so the competent (i.e., White) people can get some real work done around here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60404170140985212392011-08-22T08:25:54.190-07:002011-08-22T08:25:54.190-07:00Why cannot an enterprising lawyer hire Arthur Jens...Why cannot an enterprising lawyer hire Arthur Jensen et alia as expert witnesses and argue that the tests are not biased rather HBD exists and needs to be allowed under the law? In terms of evidence it would be an easy case to win. Not so sure about politically -- but wouldn't some sensible judge eventually cop on and accept the overwhelming evidence?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79015205835558570272011-08-22T08:15:28.545-07:002011-08-22T08:15:28.545-07:00"1/ Look at it this way. At least the test-de...<i>"1/ Look at it this way. At least the test-designing firms must hire a lot of intelligent people. And its doubtful that those employees will be non-Americans, since I doubt very many non-Americans can get their minds around the concepts of creating tests that only sort of test what is needed."</i><br /><br />Yes, the kind of intelligent people who are book smart and lack all common sense. Having that kind in decision- and policy-making positions is a big part of why we're in the fix we're in.<br /><br /><i>"2/ I suspect most New Yorkers approve of this kind of thing, and it will be New Yorkers who will suffer the consequences, so in that sense this situation is fair."</i><br /><br />Right. So it was only native New Yorkers who were killed on 9/11. <br /><br />New York is highly visible and influential. Its innovations and policies are often emulated. For example, Guiliani's "broken windows" policing in New York influenced policy in police departments in other cities and towns.Kylienoreply@blogger.com