tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post6463772191100105584..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Women and Silicon ValleyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-35414638908821617012011-09-05T00:21:55.495-07:002011-09-05T00:21:55.495-07:00" You guys bitch if we look dowdy, and you bi...<i>" You guys bitch if we look dowdy, and you bitch if we are catty to each other, but then you bitch if we have some nice public approval of the work that goes into looking nice, which we mostly do for you. There's no pleasing you, you suck."</i><br /><br />You're cute when you get mad.Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65162693575378186992011-09-03T17:48:27.022-07:002011-09-03T17:48:27.022-07:00Gore Vidal moved out of Ravello after his long-tim...Gore Vidal moved out of Ravello after his long-time lover Howard died a few years ago, and now he lives only in Los Angeles. He is wheelchair-bound and, frankly, not looking or sounding great lately.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44971353781019631042011-09-03T10:52:52.971-07:002011-09-03T10:52:52.971-07:00Another was a Chinese Indonesian who awed them at ...<i>Another was a Chinese Indonesian who awed them at Verizon. I never understood what she did, but it included wearing 4 in high heels</i><br /><br />And being really self-conscious about being short.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36974412370364158522011-09-03T10:45:08.878-07:002011-09-03T10:45:08.878-07:00Changing diapers... a simple learned skill.
It is...<i>Changing diapers... a simple learned skill.</i><br /><br />It is indeed. But I think the original commenter used the phrase "changing diapers" as a synecdoche for the ten thousand small tasks involved in caring for a small child. Leave it to the Steve-O-sphere to take things literally.<br /><br />While some men can do these 10,000 things as well as most women, most find them much more difficult to master than the rather simple task of changing a diaper, so I'd say the gender gap here is fairly wide.<br /><br />CennbeorcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52024673926370420622011-09-02T12:44:31.554-07:002011-09-02T12:44:31.554-07:00>Another was a Chinese Indonesian who awed them...>Another was a Chinese Indonesian who awed them at Verizon. I never understood what she did, but it included wearing 4 in high heels, working 18 hr days, and saving whole departments from demise.<<br /><br />There are a lot of women like this in the corporate world. They stride up and down the corridors, tap tap tapping those heels, and attend endless meetings, on and off site. They make high 5 figures or low-to-mid 6 figures. But I could never figure out what they do/make/build/create, except a lot of hot air and hard-ons. (Sorry.)<br /><br />Maybe one of these hard-charging career gals will tell us exactly what it is they do, sans a lot of jargon? Nah.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52012622497840645912011-09-01T15:37:47.495-07:002011-09-01T15:37:47.495-07:00Um, Gore does not live in Tuscany. He lives in Ra...Um, Gore does not live in Tuscany. He lives in Ravello, on the Amalfi coast in southern Italy, i.e. about 500km from Tuscany.Truman Capotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50065654839873464732011-09-01T09:59:54.707-07:002011-09-01T09:59:54.707-07:00Heelwearing is metonymic for the effort and planni...Heelwearing is metonymic for the effort and planning involved in maintaining an attractive feminine appearance. You guys bitch if we look dowdy, and you bitch if we are catty to each other, but then you bitch if we have some nice public approval of the work that goes into looking nice, which we mostly do for you. There's no pleasing you, you suck. (Cue a bunch of near-virgins claiming they like "the natural look." "The natural look" is expensive and time-consuming, especially because you have to hide your work.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52633695750319730622011-09-01T05:30:54.376-07:002011-09-01T05:30:54.376-07:00"Neither is my Ph.D. in physics friend who is..."Neither is my Ph.D. in physics friend who is a top NASA administrator and mother of three."<br /><br />So what's she doing about diversity and Islamophobia?<br /><br />"I have always found it funny when the wearing of heels by women is brandished as some praise-worthy , courageous achievement."<br /><br />It'll be talked of as foot-binding is done today. "The patriarchy forced women to wear heels or else no hubby for you! And all these expensive burdens on women with the wage gap!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10539411349919892522011-09-01T02:41:06.045-07:002011-09-01T02:41:06.045-07:00Charlotte,
without doubting what you said, I have ...Charlotte,<br />without doubting what you said, I have a few remarks. I personally have a PhD and 4 masters degrees, so pls. don't try to belittle or shame me like you did the commenter you pissed on.<br /><br />Most women are not interested in tech or much appreciate it. Any moron can observe this. When travelling by train, plane or car, the comfort and aesthetics govern for them.<br /><br />Your female wizards you mention seem to gravitate towards management. Nothing new there. The guys we are talking about are the plasma-physicists who spend 40 years labouring away at say the transport problem or the Sausage instability of a plasma. They are not career or income consciouss and you will be hard-pressed to find women there. Most intelligent women I met, and I have a genuine few, not just the many over-indulged flakes, think of themselves as being more worthy than men with similar intelligence or education. They have a higher sense of entitlement. Call it vanity, and usually eye managementt positions from a young age onwards. Grinding through a research department is the last thing on their minds.<br /><br />My father has a 160+ IQ. He was an asshole, a non-existent father who caused us children an enormous amount of emotional distress. We are navigating life without having received the crucial guidance of a father. Nowadays I could give a shit whether someone has a PhD or is 140+ IQ (was I supposed to be impressed?). I hope your friend does the diapers properly and leaves the soul of that kid intact, at least the kid will then be able to escape that highly-charged household without too much emotional damage.kopseernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72222703699725332532011-08-31T22:53:30.439-07:002011-08-31T22:53:30.439-07:00GOP is the silly-con alley.GOP is the silly-con alley.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90306013302322783402011-08-31T21:44:10.278-07:002011-08-31T21:44:10.278-07:00I caught you Sailer. This post was written by your...I caught you Sailer. This post was written by your wife or daughter. It's a fugazi. <br /><br />The last sentence is a dead giveaway. Sounds like chit chatty Gore Vidal in an apron, while stirring the white sauce in the kitchen of his Tuscany villa.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9907470315593055962011-08-31T20:50:49.631-07:002011-08-31T20:50:49.631-07:00"Charlotte said...
Neither is my Ph.D. in ph..."Charlotte said...<br /><br />Neither is my Ph.D. in physics friend who is a top NASA administrator and mother of three."<br /><br />A Ph.D. in physics, and yet she is not working as a physicist, but as an administrator. This is a common career track for women in technical organizations: get a technical degree, do as little technical work as possible, get promoted into management by a management that is desperate to hire women into management positions.<br /><br />This example doesn't exactly make your point.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78043749342450078652011-08-31T20:22:06.518-07:002011-08-31T20:22:06.518-07:00> as men are at changing diapers.
"Women ...> as men are at changing diapers.<br /><br />"Women are generally about as good at logic, mathematics, and abstract reasoning as men are at changing diapers."<br /><br />You mean, on average, they are about the same? Strong statement for this blog. I would not go so far!<br /><br />I get it that men need to disclaim diaper-changing ability in order to maintain a masculine persona, in the same way as some women can't let themselves be seen as knowing how to change a flat tire; and in either case many men or wormen actually talk themselves into believing they are incapable of such.<br /><br />But give us some evidence, even an personal anecdote, of a man who had even the tiniest emotional connection to a child, and who does not let "appearance" get in his way, yet who has the slightest problem skill-wise changing diapers. <br /><br />I think you cannot. And I think your aspersions on women's "general" capabilities at logic, etc, are similarly doubtful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1828685310017110182011-08-31T19:51:30.212-07:002011-08-31T19:51:30.212-07:00Now imagine what could have happened if the Bay Ar...Now imagine what could have happened if the Bay Area had been prevented from becoming so aggressively difficult to raise a family in.<br /><br />Alma Mahler would never have stayed there. There are always a lot of proto-Almas around. They always leave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64609598040215204662011-08-31T18:20:21.073-07:002011-08-31T18:20:21.073-07:00Women are generally about as good at logic, mathem...<i>Women are generally about as good at logic, mathematics, and abstract reasoning as men are at changing diapers.</i><br /><br />Men may not have the inclination to change them but when they do, they can do it as good as a woman, its a simple learned skill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46844173212954173222011-08-31T17:54:51.010-07:002011-08-31T17:54:51.010-07:00@Charlotte
"I never understood what she did,...@Charlotte<br /><br />"I never understood what she did, but it included wearing 4 in high heels, working 18 hr days, and saving whole departments from demise."<br /><br />I have always found it funny when the wearing of heels by women is brandished as some praise-worthy , courageous achievement.Miley Cyraxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54211615749004089172011-08-31T17:41:40.430-07:002011-08-31T17:41:40.430-07:00First, a great quote of wisdom:
"Women have ...First, a great quote of wisdom:<br /><br />"Women have always been the guardians of wisdom and humanity which makes them natural, but usually secret, rulers."- Charlotte Wolff (1904-1986)<br /><br />------<br /><br />"It's only in the past few decades the "movement" emphasized the positive."<br /><br />Exaggerated you mean? I mean, the Ada Lovelace Day!<br /><br />And the disparagement of men?<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Y1vxtMqfA" rel="nofollow"> Mozart's sister</a> was held back by her daddy, while Emmy Noether became a mathematician on her own?<br /><br />"IMO, one good thing about the "women's movement" is that (in its better modes) it forces people to take responsibility for their own actions. "<br /><br />O_O<br /><br />"but that has always been equally unprovable in most cases."<br /><br />lol, it is akin to saying, "sexism hurts women equally, so let's just call it even stevens, but seriously, we need more female role models."<br /><br />-------------------<br /><br />"But life is composed of interactions with individuals"<br /><br />and diaper changing.<br /><br />"It shows insurity on your part"<br /><br />Thank you, that brought color back to my face after reading about the women you wrote of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34852150762453236602011-08-31T13:16:16.656-07:002011-08-31T13:16:16.656-07:00Neither is my Ph.D. in physics friend who is a top...<i>Neither is my Ph.D. in physics friend who is a top NASA administrator and mother of three.</i><br /><br />NASA administrators are rent-seeking bureaucrats who have held back space access for decades.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23584535742829182262011-08-31T11:26:12.775-07:002011-08-31T11:26:12.775-07:00I want to add that I'm not holding myself out ...I want to add that I'm not holding myself out as a scientist or of the caliber of a GNXP writer, but one should at least believe this one fundamental: people have been superiorly designed by evolution and are extremely hard to subvert.Dahlianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72980570863225828512011-08-31T11:07:38.400-07:002011-08-31T11:07:38.400-07:00I was thinking of women and the Steveophere last n...I was thinking of women and the Steveophere last night when reading Half Sigma's blog posts about Paul Campos and his book, The Obesity Myth.<br /><br />For those interested in evolution, presumably what the Steveosphere is about, Campos espouses an elegant theory that respects the axiom that we are products of millions of years of evolution and we have been extremely well designed. He seems to bring the facts to bear and what he says should get a fair hearing by us.<br /><br />And yet, HS's readers shrieked (significant overlap with the "manosphere"). The thousandth rant against fat women commenced and that was the end of the discussion. The Undiscovered Jew, the biggest proponent of the view that "game" is an attractive Trojan horse for introducing men to human biodiversity, complained loudest.<br /><br />This is the second instance I'm aware of where these particular types of men have shown a lack of understanding of evolution and disrespect for the process: they hold the belief that it is very fallible and easily undermined. <br /><br />So, in addition to making the Steveophere coarser and more inhospitable, they bring the level of intellectual discourse down. <br /><br />I believe more strongly than before that Half Sigma is correct when he says the majority of people who believe in racial differences do so because they personally benefit. If they are found to be losers in any other regard, they then believe that "evolution isn't working or has been subverted".Dahlianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55758018519766507892011-08-31T11:03:55.349-07:002011-08-31T11:03:55.349-07:00To the person talking about women supposedly not b...To the person talking about women supposedly not being blamed for anything bad, it's been well documented that women's support was a crucial part of Hitler's rise to power (and he actively recruited them with promises of family bonuses). Nobody has ever glossed over that so stop whining about nothing.S.Anonyianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71189334144808373112011-08-31T10:55:13.985-07:002011-08-31T10:55:13.985-07:00""Women are generally about as good at l...<i>""Women are generally about as good at logic, mathematics, and abstract reasoning as men are at changing diapers."</i><br /><br />Charlotte, in responding to the preceding remark, you write, <br /><br /><i>"Yeah, yeah, I get statistics. But life is composed of interactions with individuals, and the minute you start to look at someone with an IQ of 140 plus, and who has manifested that intelligence, as a diaper expert above all, you are in for some hard knocks."</i> <br /><br />But whoever wrote that comment specified "women generally". So why try to counter an argument about generalities with examples of specific individuals? Apples and oranges and frankly, more emotive than logical.<br /><br /><i>"It shows insurity[?] on your part, too, and that should be a bit embarrassing, and quite a turn off for the woman. Are you married? Significant other? Does she have a detectable IQ? Have you checked her diaper views?"</i><br /><br />Actually, I think you are the one who should be embarrassed here. After recasting the comment to serve your own agenda, you then go straight into a very unseemly personal attack mode. Let me repeat, the comment referred very specifically to "women generally" and frankly, my experience and observation have led me to the same conclusion--this, despite my closest girlfriend earning a good living utilizing her razor-sharp analytical abilities as some sort of computer program troubleshooter. Nor is she the only woman I know like that. But they are still comparatively rare.<br /><br /><i>"Be alert, man, or you'll be caught off guard."</i> <br /><br />Pot, meet kettle, as they say.Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67027324463673632732011-08-31T10:19:00.798-07:002011-08-31T10:19:00.798-07:00"The mind of a primitive man."
Pretty i..."The mind of a primitive man."<br /><br />Pretty interesting Luke. A couple of observations:<br />1)Pride in achievement is naive and no indicator of value. Good so we can stop trying to find the great black ____.<br />2)Virgin soil epidemics are horribad, but didn't the European miracle happen right after the black death?<br />3)Muslims and Africa: This one gets actually fairly close to HBD, he is implicitly suggesting that there is a genetic component to cultural behavior.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3642074712958664632011-08-31T08:12:47.428-07:002011-08-31T08:12:47.428-07:00"That is bizarre--and not the first time it h...<i>"That is bizarre--and not the first time it has happened that by sheer coincidence(picking up a donated New Yorker at the train station and reading it while waiting)that I got fam. with someone I had never heard of--and then he is discussed by the Stever!</i><br /><br />It's called synchronicity. A smart Swiss guy coined the term.green mambanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16783618099539443802011-08-31T07:27:00.688-07:002011-08-31T07:27:00.688-07:00It's an interesting article but in the end jus...It's an interesting article but in the end just another ways of saying men and women complement each other. A truism if there ever was one.<br /><br />I think another concept I find is that the men who really succeed and become alpha-nerd are the ones who can split the difference between the male and female mind.Duncanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05310129929636104611noreply@blogger.com