tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post6779175232872624818..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Indian IQ, Part 1: Diaspora DemographicsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger217125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58065051903983812752014-01-01T04:42:12.772-08:002014-01-01T04:42:12.772-08:00Have you considered showing the latest comments (l...Have you considered showing the latest comments (like the 10 most recent comments) in the sidebar? People will be able to see what people are commenting on and therefore the site will remain more active. It's a simple plugin to install. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61321685122200724732013-12-31T10:51:05.068-08:002013-12-31T10:51:05.068-08:00Fazlur Khan, Bangladeshi Muslim, regarded as the f...Fazlur Khan, Bangladeshi Muslim, regarded as the father of modern structural engineering. <br /><br />Sal Khan of Khan Academy, another Bangladeshi Muslim, probably more intelligent than 99% of Brahmins. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52054637737741138082013-12-31T10:37:50.786-08:002013-12-31T10:37:50.786-08:00Steve Sailor makes things up on this blog. Just be...Steve Sailor makes things up on this blog. Just because Hindus like to say Muslims are low caste converts so he basically goes with what they say. The fact of the matter is, Pakistan has an IQ of 84, 2 points higher than India, while Bangladesh scores 82, the same as India. I am Bangladeshi Muslim in the UK who has cousins that topped their classes in maths and got degrees in maths/statistics from UCL. My nephews are top of their classes, far ahead of white kid in years 6 and 7. Lot of Bangladeshis in the UK came to the UK as economic migrants but the second generation are outperforming white kids. Lot of Bangladeshis have put Islamic fundamentalism on the backburner, and are focused on education. <br /><br />The reason Brahmins have overachieved in relation to others, is because of the simple reason they haven't allowed anyone else to be educated. <br /><br />Muslims are a combination of various castes, as well as foreign admixture, usually from West and Central Asia. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37908749683088853252008-11-16T12:47:00.000-08:002008-11-16T12:47:00.000-08:00This faux-intellectualism is laughable. Tell me, ...This faux-intellectualism is laughable. Tell me, what kind of IQ does it take to purchase a Hummer when oil was above $100/barrel?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84746524111047239502008-10-21T15:34:00.000-07:002008-10-21T15:34:00.000-07:00The posts by rec1man are completely none sensical ...The posts by rec1man are completely none sensical and seems to be made up from thin air. A case in point, to assign an IQ of 120 or 130 for Brahmans contradicts existing evidance. By his account, there about 55 mil Brahmans with this extraoridinary IQ. Yet we are not seeing this IQ expressed in any sort of achievement by this group of people. In contrast, the Ashkinazi Jews are measured to be a mear 117 and number a few million in the U.S. The over representation in all fields requiring intelligence is astonishing. <BR/><BR/>Yes, there casts in India are confined to their professions, yet there is a significant difference between this separation and the Jews as a persecuted minority. If a Jew did not do well in their allotted profession, they will die of starvation, there is no other options. On the other hand, being a member of a previlidged cast means that you will still survive somehow even if you are stupid. I don't see the selective pressure that the Jews would have enountered for several hundred years. <BR/><BR/>Finally, many Indians tout their "Aryan" roots. Being of Aryan descent does not equal to being modern European or American whites. The Persians and Iraqies, where the original "Aryan" invaders of India came from, did not share the same IQ endowment as the European whites and are also reported to by in the mid to high 80's in IQ according to Richard Lynn. Since the Brahmans came from this stock and there is no evidence that evolutionary forces that exist in India is more IQ selective than the environment in, say, Iran, The Brahmans should be close to this level. They do seem to be over represented in Silicon Valley. I would say they are probably in the 90s at the best.<BR/><BR/>One thing that will become clearer in the coming decades, given the high IQ of the Silicon Valley population, is that their desendants will revert to the mean in the next few generations. We shall find out where the mean is in a couple of decades.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41690622948337618472008-07-10T11:17:00.000-07:002008-07-10T11:17:00.000-07:00Some brahmin chest-thumper here wrote that there a...<I>Some brahmin chest-thumper here wrote that there are no untouchable hindu immigrants in America, which is of course an untruth.</I><BR/><BR/>rec1man's adjusted model for IQ estimates that 15%of the Indian population in the US are dalits. <BR/><BR/>Are you suggesting a higher percentage for the model?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12154524584108774692008-06-24T21:27:00.000-07:002008-06-24T21:27:00.000-07:00Some brahmin chest-thumper here wrote that there a...Some brahmin chest-thumper here wrote that there are no untouchable hindu immigrants in America, which is of course an untruth. Here is an example of an indian untouchable in America who did very well for himself, and unlike the selfish brahmin braggards he actually spent his millions doing something really good for his village in India:<BR/><BR/>http://www.theverdictindia.com/Personalities.asp<BR/><BR/><I>EIGHTY-ONE-YEAR-OLD KUMAR Bahuleyan, a neurosurgeon, who once led a lavish lifestyle that included moving around in a Rolls Royce and five Mercedes, besides an aeroplane, has used the money to build a hospital specialising in neurosurgery, a health clinic and a spa in Chemmanakary in Kerala's Kottayam District. A Dalit based in Buffalo, New York, for the last 34 years, has given 20 million dollars to his village in Kerala.<BR/><BR/>Bahuleyan said that the desire to do something for his native place germinated between 1982 and 1987, when he visited the area, and found that nothing had changed. He said that he felt like returning something to the village, which had taught him and made him something in life.<BR/><BR/>Bahuleyan says he lost two younger brothers and a sister to water-borne disease in 1930s, and even today he says he is haunted by their dying screams. As a 'untouchable', Bahuleyan had to take a circuitous route to school because he wasn't allowed to pass a Hindu temple. A brilliant student, he succeeded in joining a medical college in Madras. From their, he proceeded to Edinburgh for six years of neurosurgical training before eturning home. </I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59833422683121078052008-06-24T15:19:00.000-07:002008-06-24T15:19:00.000-07:00I see that the south indian brahmins are as usual ...I see that the south indian brahmins are as usual tirelessly tooting their horns. Heres a simple question for these self-anointed geniuses: if the brahmins are so very intelligent and if they dominate India so thoroughly in education, bureaucracy, media etc, then why is India such a backward, deeply impoverished hellhole? Muslims, Malays, Hispanics not to mention chinese, japanese, koreans and europeans, are all living in much better conditions than these caste-obsessed hindus. Try traveling to India from Tehran, Kuala Lumpur, Bangkok, Rio, or practically any place, and you will be astounded by how much poorer, filthier, uglier India looks.<BR/><BR/>Secondly, it is worth noting that the jats etc who are low caste look far more west asian/caucasian than these south indian brahmins. Not surprisingly the jats dominate as actors and models in color conscious India.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-439050205255252122008-06-12T22:58:00.000-07:002008-06-12T22:58:00.000-07:00Sorry, I didn't see where you have to go to a new ...Sorry, I didn't see where you have to go to a new page to see comments 201+. I never had 201 comments before!Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91159963827602215182008-06-12T19:58:00.000-07:002008-06-12T19:58:00.000-07:00steve I could see it. here it is cut and paste aga...steve I could see it. here it is cut and paste again. rec1man's numbers could possibly be presented in tabular format (present vs future) for the 8 groups.<BR/><BR/>Here is my attempt at a summary of rec1man's analyses (the northern dalit current IQ should be 70). Edit as required.<BR/><BR/>The Indian population can be grouped in terms of the four traditional caste super-categories (Brahmin, Merchant, Peasant, and Dalit/Scheduled Caste/Low caste Muslim) cross-cutting with a North vs. South geographical distinction. The "Brahmin" and "Merchants" have had multiple generations of a literate tradition and also engaged in professions that required greater cognitive ability (memorization, calculation), compared to the "Peasants" (who formed the ranks of the warrior class and had/have the most political power) and Dalits (who also have the least amount of central-west asian-european admixture and have been engaged in menial tasks on the fringes of society).<BR/><BR/>This model posits a 10 IQ penalty for North Indian groups as a result of Islamic invasions/genocide of north indian elites over a millenia. Improvement in living conditions, nutrition, and access to education is expected to increase mean IQ by 7.5 points by the end of this century. India has the human resource potential to be to be a developed society with advanced technological capabilities by the end of this century. The cognitive elites of India will primarily come from the Brahmin and Merchant super-categories and numerically compare favorably with the other Asian superpower China. This octo-population model provides a more accurate picture of the human resource potential of the Indian population, compared to simplistic unimodal population model with mean IQ of 85 and SD =15.<BR/><BR/>note: The usage of the 4 caste supercategories is not literal. Syrian christians and Parsees would be Brahmins and the few peasant castes with a literate tradition would be in the merchant class. Upper caste muslims would also fall in either the merchant or brahmin supercategory.Sriramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06570517903462144931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26841239229115131782008-06-12T16:56:00.000-07:002008-06-12T16:56:00.000-07:00On June 12, Nsam posted a comment providing a shor...On June 12, Nsam posted a comment providing a short summary, as he sees it, of the current state of Rec1man's research. But now I can't find where Nsam's comment went. Could he repost it here?Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10005629436289919822008-06-12T16:12:00.000-07:002008-06-12T16:12:00.000-07:00Here is my attempt at a summary of rec1man's analy...Here is my attempt at a summary of rec1man's analyses (the northern dalit current IQ should be 70). Edit as required.<BR/><BR/>The Indian population can be grouped in terms of the four traditional caste super-categories (Brahmin, Merchant, Peasant, Dalit/Scheduled Caste/Low caste Muslim) cross-cutting with a North vs. South geographical distinction. The "Brahmin" and "Merchants" have had multiple generations of a literate tradition and also engaged in professions that required greater cognitive ability (memorization, calculation), compared to the "Peasants" (who formed the ranks of the warrior class and had/have the most political power) and Dalits (who also have the least amount of central-west asian-european admixture and have been engaged in menial tasks on the fringes of society). <BR/><BR/>This model posits a 10 IQ penalty for North Indian groups as a result of Islamic invasions/genocide of north indian elites over a millenia. Improvement in living conditions, nutrition, and access to education is expected to increase mean IQ by 7.5 points by the end of this century. India has the human resource potential to be to be a developed society with advanced technological capabilities by the end of this century. The cognitive elites of India will primarily come from the Brahmin and Merchant super-categories and numerically compare favorably with the other Asian superpower China. This octo-population model provides a more accurate picture of the human resource potential of the Indian population, compared to simplistic unimodal population model with mean IQ of 85 and SD =15.<BR/><BR/>note: The usage of the 4 caste supercategories is not literal. Syrian christians or Parsees would be Brahmins and the few peasant castes with a literate tradition would be in the merchant class.Sriramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06570517903462144931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14993129976575408822008-06-12T15:40:00.000-07:002008-06-12T15:40:00.000-07:00an example of distortions created by AA in India.N...an example of distortions created by AA in India.<BR/><BR/>New Delhi, June 12: The National Commission for Scheduled Castes has summoned the Director of Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi, for a meeting on June 17 after students belonging to SC/ST community were asked to leave the institution for "very poor performance".<BR/><BR/>"The Director of IIT, Delhi, Prof Surendra Prasad has been asked to come for a meeting on June 17," Commission sources said.<BR/><BR/>The decision to summon the Director was taken after a complaint had been registered with the Commission by the father of one of the students who was asked to leave the institute because of "very poor performance."<BR/><BR/>The premier technical institute this year had asked 20 under-graduate students to leave the campus as their performance was found "below the required minimum level for continuation."<BR/><BR/>The IIT administration had deliberately handpicked the students from SC/ST communities to throw them out of the institute, alleged the complainant.Sriramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06570517903462144931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73939105911194830222008-06-11T07:34:00.000-07:002008-06-11T07:34:00.000-07:00Dear Rec1Man:Please make up a short summary, say 3...Dear Rec1Man:<BR/><BR/>Please make up a short summary, say 300 words, of your current model after all this discussion and I'll likely post it on my blog.<BR/>--<BR/><BR/>Future Indian IQ<BR/>--<BR/>Southern Brahmin, 1% @ 125 IQ<BR/>Northern Brahmin, 4% @ 120 IQ<BR/>Southern Merchant, 3% @ 115 IQ<BR/>Northern Merchant, 12% @ 110 IQ<BR/>Southern Peasant, 8% @ 100 IQ<BR/>Northern Peasant, 32% @ 95 IQ<BR/>Muslim, 15% @ 85 iQ<BR/>Southern Dalit, 5% @ 85 IQ<BR/>Northern Dalit, 20% @ 80IQ<BR/>Avg = 94.10<BR/><BR/>Flynn effect for India <BR/>Brahmins and merchants = 5<BR/>Peasants = 7<BR/>Muslims and Dalits = 10<BR/>The Flynn for Africa = 10<BR/><BR/>--<BR/><BR/>Current IQ<BR/><BR/>Southern Brahmin, 1% @ 120 IQ<BR/>Northern Brahmin, 4% @ 115 IQ<BR/>Southern Merchant, 3% @ 110 IQ<BR/>Northern Merchant, 12% @ 105 IQ<BR/>Southern Peasant, 8% @ 93 IQ<BR/>Northern Peasant, 32% @ 88 IQ<BR/>Muslim, 15% @ 75 iQ<BR/>Southern Dalit, 5% @ 75 IQ<BR/>Northern Dalit, 20% @ 75IQ<BR/>Avg = 86.10 IQ<BR/>Current Flynn for India is 7.8<BR/>--<BR/><BR/>After Flynn<BR/>High End Indian IQ<BR/>Over 120IQ = 55 mil<BR/>Over 130IQ = 20 mil<BR/>Over 140IQ = 5 milAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59493417545193775902008-06-10T18:30:00.000-07:002008-06-10T18:30:00.000-07:00Dear Rec1Man:Please make up a short summary, say 3...Dear Rec1Man:<BR/><BR/>Please make up a short summary, say 300 words, of your current model after all this discussion and I'll likely post it on my blog.Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85999904260923245892008-06-10T05:15:00.000-07:002008-06-10T05:15:00.000-07:00http://in.ibtimes.com/articles/20080609/reputation...http://in.ibtimes.com/articles/20080609/reputation-institute-tata-infosys-technologies-global-pulse-report-corporate_all.htm<BR/><BR/>Indian companies are making waves not only in matters of acquisition but also in matters of reputation, if the list "Global 200: The World's Best Corporate Reputations" compiled by US-based Reputation Institute is any indication.<BR/><BR/>The Tata Group and Infosys Technologies spearhead India's charge, ranking 6th and 14th in the list, that also includes other Indian companies like Maruti Suzuki (77th), State Bank of India (107th), Hindustan Lever (131st), Hero Honda Motors (147th), Life Insurance Corporation of India (161st), Bajaj Auto (169th), ONGC (186th), Mahindra & Mahindra (191st) and Indian Oil Corporation (199th).<BR/><BR/>"India's Tata Group and Infosys Technologies saw their reputations increase by over 8 points in 2008, and catapulted over 100 spots in the ranking to join the top tier of global companies in 2008 in recognition of their growing role among the world's business elite," the Global Pulse 2008 report released by Reputation Institute said.<BR/><BR/>Interestingly, India's Tata Group (6th) has been ranked ahead of the likes of Walt Disney (12th), Philips Electronics (31st), Sony Corp. (35th), Colgate-Palmolive (36th), Honda Motor Co. (39th), Cadbury Schweppes (45th), General Electric (49th), Nestle (57th), Apple (63rd), Hewlett-Packard (66th), Boeing (78th), Dell (82nd), The Coca-Cola Co. (83rd), PepsiCo (100th), IBM (108th), Unilever (128th), Microsoft (137th), Samsung Electronics (163rd), Nokia (177th), British Airways (179th), LG Electronics (196th) and Airbus (197th).<BR/><BR/>IT bellwether Infosys Technologies ranked 5th in the 'Citizenship' category, 4th in the 'Governance' category, 4th in the 'Products/Services' category and 5th in 'Leadership' category.<BR/><BR/>The Tata Group ranked 5th in 'Governance' and 3rd in 'Leadership' categories.<BR/><BR/>Another noteworthy point is that Maruti Suzuki India (77th) has been ranked higher than the Indian automaker's Japanese parent body Suzuki Motor Corporation (139th).<BR/><BR/>The ranking on the Global Pulse 2008 report is based on the "good feeling, trust, and respect that consumers feel towards a company."<BR/><BR/>"The Global Pulse 2008 measures the reputations of the world's largest companies in each country based on their 'total revenues.' Rated companies had to have significant consumer presence and be minimally familiar to the general public. All companies are measured in their home country only, and the results standardized to remove unique country-level variation and enable cross-country comparisons," the report said.<BR/><BR/>According to Reputation Institute, a reputation is built on "7 pillars" from which a company can create a strategic platform for communicating with its stakeholders on the most relevant key performance indicators. These 7 pillars are: Product/Services; Innovation; Workplace; Governance; Citizenship; Leadership; and Performance.<BR/><BR/>The report was compiled based on a survey that spanned over 60,000 online interviews with consumers in 27 countries on six continents. Initially, 1000 companies were selected for the survey but only 200 found their way to the list.<BR/><BR/>The Global Pulse report is a "powerful strategic tool because it provides a common language for companies with which to manage their reputations" Reputation Institute said in its report.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23107293041826260502008-06-10T04:46:00.000-07:002008-06-10T04:46:00.000-07:00A test like the SAT or GRE which has both a verbal...A test like the SAT or GRE which has both a verbal and math component is probably more reflective of real world IQ than a ravens matrix test<BR/>--<BR/><BR/>Regarding languages, my dad is fluent in 5 languages which he had to learn by necessity as his family moved from state to state, each with a different language and scriptAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8248656934569507142008-06-09T20:58:00.000-07:002008-06-09T20:58:00.000-07:00Most Indians are bi-lingual and many are tri-lingu...<I>Most Indians are bi-lingual and many are tri-lingual</I><BR/><BR/>Most Indians are trilingual while many are quadrilingual. <BR/><BR/>Schools teach their native language, plus Hindi (or Sanskrit), English and optionally a foreign language like German, French or Japanese. Plus people (and their kids) moving for jobs learn the language of the state they move to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52324673196852788782008-06-09T18:44:00.000-07:002008-06-09T18:44:00.000-07:00All Indians are compulsorily bi lingual or even tr...All Indians are compulsorily bi lingual or even tri lingual in the 10th and 12th grade exams<BR/><BR/>English + Hindi + local language dialect<BR/><BR/>At school I had english + tamil + hindi<BR/>3 different scripts<BR/><BR/>The IQ tests used are mostly ravens matrices and dont catch weakness in verbal iq<BR/><BR/>In most cases such as SAT,<BR/>IQ is measured by average of math and verbal scores<BR/><BR/><BR/>In singapore, Indians score midway between chinese and malays in math <BR/><BR/>however in english they beat both chinese and malays<BR/><BR/><BR/>weakness of east asians in verbal iQ<BR/><BR/>http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/sft2.htm<BR/><BR/>Estranea. What do you mean by "verbal shortcomings." Is it that NE Asians perform less well than Europeans on verbal subtests or that they simply are not given to Strocchian pleonasm?<BR/><BR/>Prodigy. The former, but there is other evidence of their verbal deficiency. Take the bar exam for example. In 1989, the Law School Admission Council commissioned a study of bar passage rates. Its report, The LSAC National Longitudinal Bar Passage Study was published in 1998, with results disaggregated by race and ethnicity. Linda F. Wightman, the project head, collected data from more than 27,000 students who entered ABA approved law schools in fall 1991. The study found that only 80.75% of Asians passed the bar on the first try compared with 91.93% of non-Hispanic whites. This corresponds to a white-Asian mean-score difference of 0.53 standard deviation or in IQ terms a verbal gap of 8 points!<BR/><BR/>--<BR/><BR/>Of these, 12 reported both general and verbal IQ averages for NE Asians. Three of the 12 indicated a white-NE Asian verbal IQ gap of about 8 points in agreement with the bar exam result, but these are at the high end. The average verbal gap was a bit less than 4 points or about a quarter standard deviation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87732483098764699182008-06-09T18:37:00.000-07:002008-06-09T18:37:00.000-07:00In India, with its poverty and lousy colleges, 39%...In India, with its poverty and lousy colleges, 39% of brahmins have a college degree or more<BR/><BR/>In the US, those with at least a college degree or more<BR/><BR/>http://religions.pewforum.org/pdf/table-education-by-tradition.pdf<BR/><BR/>Total = 27%<BR/>Protestants = 24%<BR/>Catholic = 26%<BR/>Jews = 59%<BR/>Muslim = 24%<BR/>Buddhist = 48%<BR/>Hindus = 74%<BR/>Orthodox = 46%<BR/>Unitarian = 51%Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63467349210531786532008-06-09T18:26:00.000-07:002008-06-09T18:26:00.000-07:00http://osdir.com/ml/culture.region.india.goa/2002-...http://osdir.com/ml/culture.region.india.goa/2002-11/msg00024.html<BR/><BR/>Brahmins are cream of Indian society: survey<BR/><BR/>By Deepshikha Ghosh, Indo-Asian News Service<BR/><BR/>New Delhi, Nov 7 (IANS) Despite being a microscopic minority, Brahmins are<BR/>still perceived to be dominating many aspects of Indian society.<BR/><BR/>Surprisingly, most other groups among caste-ridden Hindu society think that<BR/>Brahmins - who occupy the dominant position in the social hierarchy -- are<BR/>more intelligent, more educated and better looking.<BR/><BR/>This is one of the findings of a survey conducted across the country by<BR/>Week-TN Sofres Mode and published in the latest issue of The Week magazine.<BR/><BR/>Brahmins still remain a small minority but one to reckon with.<BR/><BR/>Seventy-one percent non-Brahmins perceive Brahmins as more intelligent than<BR/>the rest.<BR/><BR/>Seventy percent feel they are more educated, 48 percent think they are more<BR/>confident, but only a minority of 28 percent feel they are honest.<BR/><BR/>In physical appearance too, Brahmins get the nod of 46 percent respondents.<BR/><BR/>But only 19 percent think they are hardworking and 26 percent think they can<BR/>be better in entrepreneurship.<BR/><BR/>Brahmins are also perceived to be best in traditional arts.<BR/><BR/>Among the so-called forward castes, 54 percent feel Brahmins are the best<BR/>performers in traditional music and dance and 52 percent of the backward<BR/>castes and 60 percent of the scheduled castes and tribes share the view.<BR/><BR/>In southern India, all castes feel Brahmins to be the best performers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46459838084444839742008-06-09T18:14:00.000-07:002008-06-09T18:14:00.000-07:0020 million english fluent, college educated brahmi...20 million english fluent, college educated brahmins with over 120IQ<BR/>available in India<BR/>--<BR/><BR/>http://escapefromindia.wordpress.com/indias-brahmin-rule-data/<BR/><BR/>Brahmin Snapshots<BR/><BR/>Total Population: 56 million<BR/>Poor Brahmins: 13%<BR/>Rich: 19%<BR/>Literacy levels above the age of 18: 84%<BR/>Graduates: 39%<BR/>Brahmin chief justices between 1950 to 2000: 47%<BR/>Associate justices between 1950-2000: 40%Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86226114276987234432008-06-08T19:19:00.000-07:002008-06-08T19:19:00.000-07:00Besides IQ, another difference between Indians and...Besides IQ, another difference between Indians and east asians is exposure to English and perhaps the extra degree of compatibility between English and Indian languages (compared to English and Chinese). Even in the USA, I suspect Indian Americans have better mean ability on verbal tests than their east asian counterparts who may have as high or higher overall IQ. <BR/><BR/>Most Indians are bi-lingual and many are tri-lingual; and a few of my friends have picked up languages like Chinese, Russian and Japanese well into their adulthood for work reasons. So maybe theres as yet unexplained linguistic advantage accruing to the higher IQ end of higher caste Indian groups that matters. Maybe this depends on their being exposed to multiple languages during early childhood?Sriramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06570517903462144931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79789836736999373622008-06-08T18:36:00.000-07:002008-06-08T18:36:00.000-07:00Unitarian Sermonhttp://www.westchesteruu.org/sermo...Unitarian Sermon<BR/><BR/>http://www.westchesteruu.org/sermons/ser%202006_1008_GandhiHinduism.htm<BR/><BR/>--<BR/><BR/>Gandhi, Hinduism and the Power of Faith<BR/>Rev. David Bryce<BR/>Hastings – October 8, 2006<BR/><BR/>CHALICE LIGHTING<BR/><BR/>There is a faith that transcends time and place, transcends culture and rises up in the religions of the world. We celebrate that faith today.<BR/><BR/>READING<BR/><BR/>Lord Krishna said: You grieve for those who are not worthy of grief, and yet speak words of wisdom. The wise grieves neither for the living nor for the dead. (2.11)<BR/>---<BR/><BR/>One of the religious movements in India that arose in the 1800’s was the Brahmo Samaj. This was a religious movement partly inspired by the changes then taking place in Christianity. Much of Christian scholarship was then focused on historical critical analysis of the bible and on ideas such as separating the religion about Jesus from the religion of Jesus. Many of these scholars were inviting Christians to read the Bible with a somewhat skeptical eye and to winnow out what was genuine from what was later interpolation or imposition.<BR/><BR/>Brahmo Samaj was founded in 1828 by Rammohun Roy, a great Indian thinker, and his approach to religion was to say that Hinduism’s great religious texts were the Upanishads. He read these as Unitarians read the Bible. I specifically said Unitarians because for a number of years before 1828, Roy attended Unitarian services in India, calling himself a Unitarian Hindu, and he maintained warm connections with Unitarianism until he died in 1833. In fact, his services were modeled on the Unitarian services he had attended.<BR/><BR/>Among the more famous Brahmos was Rabindranath Tagore.<BR/><BR/>We Unitarian Universalists are today affiliated with the Brahmo Samaj through the International Association for Religious Freedom. Brahmo Samaj is not and never was a large movement, but it has had an influence greater than it numbers.<BR/><BR/>That approach to Hinduism, read through a limited number of texts (specifically the Upanishads), and read with a particular liberal perspective--seeking spiritual meaning not the literal meaning--spread throughout much of the intellectual society of India and was the general approach that Gandhi took though he was never a Brahmo or a Unitarian. Gandhi focused on the Upanishads and added the Bhagavad-Gita, which he believed was the most valuable religious text. He read it not as a literal command to kill others, but as a call to each of us to be a warrior who battles the darkness within our own heart, the darkness within the hearts of others<BR/><BR/>--Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63734150064319213062008-06-08T18:32:00.000-07:002008-06-08T18:32:00.000-07:00http://www.forbes.com/opinions/2008/06/06/tata-uk-...http://www.forbes.com/opinions/2008/06/06/tata-uk-imperialism-oped-cx_bw_0606india.html<BR/><BR/>A Case Of Reverse Imperialism<BR/>Benjamin Willson 06.06.08, 7:00 PM ET<BR/><BR/>Beware India's manifest destiny.<BR/><BR/>Though still labeled an emerging market, one could argue that the Indian economy has already emerged. According to Forbes' list of international billionaires, four of the top 10 are Indian. And with an annualized five-year total return of 42.2%, Forbes ranked India second after Brazil in its assessment of the growth of the world's largest public companies. The U.K., with a growth percentage of 17.1%, and the U.S., with 11.1%, occupy two of the last three spots on that list. The balance of power is starting to shift.<BR/><BR/>As the Indian economy continues to spread its wings, its companies are turning to new international markets.<BR/><BR/>Could this be the beginning of a reverse imperialism?<BR/><BR/><BR/>In 2000, Tata Tea--a member of India's Tata Group conglomerate of 27 publicly listed companies--bought Tetley, the U.K.'s largest tea company. Tata Tea now represents the second largest tea manufacturer in the world by volume, surpassed only by London- and Rotterdam-based Unilever.<BR/><BR/>What is driving India's expansion? "Unlike China where companies are state- and government-led, in India, it is people's own money,<BR/><BR/>In March, another subsidiary of the Tata Group, Tata Motors (nyse: TTM - news - people ), acquired Jaguar and Land Rover from Ford Motor (nyse: F - news - people ) for $2.3 billion. It's another example of originally-British brands being scooped up by an old colonial friend<BR/><BR/>The shared colonial past, actually, is an advantage. The British Empire, Khanna believes, created a legacy whose repercussions are felt in India and in Africa's eastern and southern regions. "Imperialism is laying the seeds of global chess, with Indian companies naturally capitalizing on their shared history," he says.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps other nations should prepare for a new breed of imperialism. This time, we will be pouring the teaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com