tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post6787299423631012530..comments2024-03-29T05:14:33.223-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Djoe Unchained: VP Biden apparently a "Larry Sanders" fanUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger85125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87447654417452280322013-06-04T17:50:17.698-07:002013-06-04T17:50:17.698-07:00syon said: Frankly, I'm increasingly suspicio...syon said: Frankly, I'm increasingly suspicious of that total, given the fact that Southern Baptists are the largest Protestant denomination. Perhaps the military put the bulk of the Southern Baptists in the larger Baptist category? <br /><br />Hunsdon said: Could well be. Or maybe it's like citizens of the USA just calling themselves "Americans" with no thought to Mexico, or Central or South America. Kind of a "Well, we're just Baptists," thing?<br /><br />syon said: Yes, I was rather impressed by the Episcopalian total. Glad to see that the old Protestant elite was still willing at that point to spill its blood.<br /><br />Hunsdon said: I was too. Isn't that what the elite's for, after all? To lead, in all endeavors, especially the dangerous ones?<br /><br />Noah172 said: Then again, the Jews have long joked/believed that a philo-Semite is an anti-Semite who likes Jews.<br /><br />Hunsdon said: And isn't there an old gentile definition of anti-semitism as "hating the Jews more than necessary"?Hunsdonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84331905385009201102013-06-04T15:02:35.316-07:002013-06-04T15:02:35.316-07:00syon said: MMM, I think that my "rephrasing&q...syon said: MMM, I think that my "rephrasing" of "Baptist-Southern" to "Southern Baptist" was in the interests of euphony.Do they mean different things? If they do, I apologize.<br /><br />"Hunsdon said: Ah. No, Southern Baptist is the usual phrasing, it's just that the original list used "Baptist-Southern" as a subcategory of "Baptist", and the Southern Baptist numbers seemed shockingly low, until you saw that the "Baptist-Other" numbers more than made up for it.<br /><br />Honestly, I suspected obfuscation on your part."<br /><br />Obfuscation was not intended. I was merely following the data as they appeared in the list (which I did not compile).Yes, I was also surprised by the low numbers for Southern Baptists. Frankly, I'm increasingly suspicious of that total, given the fact that Southern Baptists are the largest Protestant denomination. Perhaps the military put the bulk of the Southern Baptists in the larger Baptist category? <br /><br />syonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2428125378639391522013-06-04T14:53:40.035-07:002013-06-04T14:53:40.035-07:00Noah172:"Orthodox Christians in the US are le...Noah172:"Orthodox Christians in the US are less numerous than Jews. The former are 1% of the population, the latter 2% -- and the latter were more like 3 during the 1960s (don't know about the former)."<br /><br />Do you have any suggestions for a group that would offer a better comparison?<br /><br />As for numbers, assuming that the Greek Orthodox adherents were 1% of the US population in 1970, let's multiply their total by 3 (to make it commensurate with the roughly 3% American Jewish population in 1970).So, 58 x 3 is 174, still under the Jewish total of 269.Let's be still more generous, and lump in Russian Orthodox adherents (22) into the Orthodox total.So, 80 x 3 is 240.Still less than the Jewish total but quite a bit closer.<br /><br /><br /><br />Hoah172:" Moreover, your list does not separate out other Orthodox groups (e.g. Armenian). Your comparison is not fair."<br /><br />Blame the people who compiled the list. They did not provide numbers, for example, for Armenian Orthodox deaths.<br /><br />Noah172:"In any case, if Jews were 3% of America in the 1960s, then their "fair share" of Vietnam deaths would have been about 1750, and instead it was less than one-sixth that number."<br /><br />True, but how many groups did provide a "fair share?"<br /><br />Noah172:"Mormons, who are 2% of America today and were barely 1 in the 1960s, had more than twice the deaths in Vietnam as the Jews. The Churches of Christ, only slightly larger than the Mormons (and less numerous than the Jews), had almost twice as many Vietnam fatalities. Episcopalians, who were 2-3 percent in the 60s (less than two today) and a upper-class stratum to boot, had more than triple the number of Jewish deaths."<br /><br />Yes, I was rather impressed by the Episcopalian total. Glad to see that the old Protestant elite was still willing at that point to spill its blood.<br /><br /><br />Noah172:" Methodists, who were about 6% of the total population, had about 7% of the Vietnam deaths (and, IIRC, the United Methodist Church opposed the war!)."<br /><br />Yes, Methodists and unaffiliated Baptists did make a very large share of the dead. Of course, a large chunk of both do come from the South (nearly always disproportionately represented in the military). <br /><br />Noah172:"To echo some comments made above, your use of statistics is... talmudic."<br /><br />MMMM, is it genetic?Have I somehow absorbed Talmudic practices (whatever those are) via my mother's bloodline?How that would have saddened my maternal grandfather. He abhorred the Talmud, calling it a compendium of Medieval rubbish fit only for Russian Jews (he could never bring himself to regard Russian Jews as anything other than unwashed savages).<br /><br />syonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55465182329890480192013-06-04T14:10:49.701-07:002013-06-04T14:10:49.701-07:00Re: the topic of this post (much as I enjoy a dive...Re: the topic of this post (much as I enjoy a diversion into discussing Jewish participation in American wars):<br /><br />I have a Strange New Respect for Biden. It takes moxie to say what he said about the herrnvolk -- goodness, I meant God's Chosen People! -- even considering that he meant to flatter them rather than condemn. Then again, the Jews have long joked/believed that a philo-Semite is an anti-Semite who likes Jews.<br /><br />If the truth about Jews can only come out in a big public way like this (as opposed to subversive blogs such as this, or the published works of Kevin Macdonald) cloaked in flattery, I say let the flattery come, because at least some goyim will be able to see through the puff and realize who really has the power in this country.<br /><br />"Jews control the media, and that's great because it gave America a woman's right to choose, gay rights, open borders, and affirmative action! Gotta love them Jews!" Keep talking, Mr. Vice-President, please: some "philo-Semitic" fundigelical bumpkins (philo-Semitic because they know nothing of flesh-and-blood Jews) need to hear your thoughts, over and over and over.<br /><br />And then maybe the tide might finally turn in our favor. Noah172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3194239843582412092013-06-04T14:00:21.655-07:002013-06-04T14:00:21.655-07:00Syon,
Orthodox Christians in the US are less nume...Syon,<br /><br />Orthodox Christians in the US are less numerous than Jews. The former are 1% of the population, the latter 2% -- and the latter were more like 3 during the 1960s (don't know about the former). Moreover, your list does not separate out other Orthodox groups (e.g. Armenian). Your comparison is not fair.<br /><br />In any case, if Jews were 3% of America in the 1960s, then their "fair share" of Vietnam deaths would have been about 1750, and instead it was less than one-sixth that number.<br /><br />Mormons, who are 2% of America today and were barely 1 in the 1960s, had more than twice the deaths in Vietnam as the Jews. The Churches of Christ, only slightly larger than the Mormons (and less numerous than the Jews), had almost twice as many Vietnam fatalities. Episcopalians, who were 2-3 percent in the 60s (less than two today) and a upper-class stratum to boot, had more than triple the number of Jewish deaths. Methodists, who were about 6% of the total population, had about 7% of the Vietnam deaths (and, IIRC, the United Methodist Church opposed the war!).<br /><br />To echo some comments made above, your use of statistics is... talmudic.Noah172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52350057628301897612013-06-04T11:53:05.392-07:002013-06-04T11:53:05.392-07:00And Christians who went into untold amount of land...<i>And Christians who went into untold amount of lands and converted people at the tip of the sword? What about Manifest Destintiny? Oh well, it's those reds(or whoever of them is left anyway), who cares!</i><br /><br />You obviously care, you nitwit, or you wouldn't be commenting.<br /><br />Btw, the redskins fought back. Hard. They would've staked down any of their fellow redskins who talked like you and left them for the crows and the ants.<br /><br /><i>I mean, the delusion here among you people is amazing. Religion is fundamentally a dangerous and reactionary thing.</i><br /><br />Like we're really having a discussion about religion.<br /><br /><i>Francis Salvador (1747-1776), Sephardic Jew and Patriot</i><br /><br />If this was a Confederate site, the comment would've been about Judah Benjamin. If it was a mainstream site, neither would be mentioned. Always target your audience.<br /><br />Syon: you're a Righteous Jew, already. We've got your waivers all printed up, okay?Svigornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59097370807250882642013-06-04T04:50:43.328-07:002013-06-04T04:50:43.328-07:00Mrs. Anon said: Probably some commenters here wou...Mrs. Anon said: Probably some commenters here would have volunteered to fight for Hitler if they were alive then.<br /><br />Hunsdon said: Oh of course! We rootless cosmopolitans would have thrown over the ties of history, family, geography and language, and gone to fight alongside a dictator against our people . . . Wait, that's just stupid.<br /><br />syon said: MMM, I think that my "rephrasing" of "Baptist-Southern" to "Southern Baptist" was in the interests of euphony.Do they mean different things? If they do, I apologize.<br /><br />Hunsdon said: Ah. No, Southern Baptist is the usual phrasing, it's just that the original list used "Baptist-Southern" as a subcategory of "Baptist", and the Southern Baptist numbers seemed shockingly low, until you saw that the "Baptist-Other" numbers more than made up for it.<br /><br />Honestly, I suspected obfuscation on your part.<br /><br />Anonydroid at 7:23 PM said: The Ashkenazi Jews, in contrast, had numbers that allowed them to maintain ethnic enclaves. <br /><br />Hunsdon said: Yes, in Harvard, Wall Street and Hollywood.Hunsdonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80226596528068907022013-06-04T00:19:24.196-07:002013-06-04T00:19:24.196-07:00"Mrs. Anon said...
And how many anti-semites..."Mrs. Anon said...<br /><br />And how many anti-semites from outside of Germany volunteered to fight for Nazism?"<br /><br />Several thousand, certainly. Still, that is dwarfed by the number of anti-semites who fought against Hitler. Nazi Germany was defeated - primarily - by Russian soldiers. You don't think that there weren't a whole hell of a lot of anti-semites among them?<br /><br />"Probably some commenters here would have volunteered to fight for Hitler if they were alive then."<br /><br />Very unlikely. In fact, that is almost certainly NOT true. In fact, that is really just total bullshit. But as you are just making shit up, go ahead and believe it if you like - nobody's going to stop you from indulging in ridiculous bias-reinforcing fantasies.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27530934117599485912013-06-04T00:14:13.560-07:002013-06-04T00:14:13.560-07:00"Anonymous
Mr. Anon,
""More anti-..."Anonymous<br /><br />Mr. Anon,<br /><br />""More anti-semites fought against nazism than did jews - by far."<br /><br />How did you calculate this?"<br /><br />It stands to reason, doesn't it? Given that the overwhelming number of soldiers in the allied armies were not Jews, and given the wide-spread incidence of what one may call the common-place, run-of-the-mill anti-semitism that was prevalent in the pre-war years (the kind that some Jews are always reminding us about, after all), it is a virtual certainly that the number of "anti-semites" (using the likely definition of people like the poster I was replying to) who fought against naziism far outnumbered the number of jews who did so.<br /><br />If you dispute this, then I should say it is your obligation to provide the rest of us with YOUR calculations.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65313044102013951872013-06-03T23:25:16.246-07:002013-06-03T23:25:16.246-07:00Mr. Anon,
"More anti-semites fought against ...Mr. Anon,<br /><br /><i>"More anti-semites fought against nazism than did jews - by far."</i><br /><br />How did you calculate this? <br /><br />And how many anti-semites from outside of Germany volunteered to fight for Nazism? One of the die-hard units in the battle of Berlin was comprised of French Nazi volunteers. Probably some commenters here would have volunteered to fight for Hitler if they were alive then. Mrs. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34770181507163983372013-06-03T22:13:54.303-07:002013-06-03T22:13:54.303-07:00"VFW vet said..."
There are many Jewish..."VFW vet said..."<br /><br />There are many Jewish veterans, many of them KIA, buried at Arlington cemetery, and other military cemeteries across this country."<br /><br />There are more people who so served and are so buried who would be described by you as anti-semites. More anti-semites fought against nazism than did jews - by far.<br /><br />"Very few, if any, of the anti-Semitic commenters on this site will qualify to be buried there, any more than Joe Biden will be so qualified, or would be so qualified if given the opportunity over and over again."<br /><br />And? This nation was not founded as a militaristic nation. For most of it's history, military service was not seen as some kind of unique qualifier for one to have an opinion on matters of war, peace, and foreign affairs. It is only since WWII that America suffered that distortion of it's national character.<br /><br />Are you a combat veteran, or just a veteran? The fact is, a lot of people in the modern military are not much different than civil servants, and are exposed to no more danger than are regular civilians. I'm not impressed with neo-con military boosterism. The "support-our-troops" meme is just a shabby, deceitful bit of trickery to get the populace to support the elite in whatever dangerous, hair-brained schemes with which they see fit to wreck our nation.<br /><br />"And, by the way, sarcastic use of the term "Scotch-Irish" does not hurt anybody's feelings, as much as the Jew-hater crowd would like to think differently."<br /><br />The origin of the term, as near as I can tell, having followed this site for nine years now, was a sarcastic response to one single habitual poster - who went by the name "Evil Neocon", then "Testing 99", and now finally "Whiskey" - who claims to be scots-irish, but whose hackles are never raised when the Cross of St. Andrew is insulted, but who leaps in as soon as the Star of David is mentioned (or, even, not mentioned). The term - a joke at first - soon grew legs. It is an acknowledgement of the fact that there is a group who are so powerless, put-upon, and vicimized, that they will CRUSH you if you so much as point out that they are - in fact - a group.<br /><br />"I could list a hundred people of the Scotch or Irish heritage (in the non-sarcastic sense -and, by the way, real Scots and real Irish usually don't care much for each other..."<br /><br />You obviously don't know what the term "Scots-Irish" really means. Anyway, I can name plenty of protestant "old-Americans" and Irish-Americans and German-Americans who have been destructive of this country too. I can also name a lot of Jews who have been so. And, as in many things, they punch above their weight. So why shouldn't I be alowed to notice that, and point it out?Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52920301136215540832013-06-03T21:34:34.045-07:002013-06-03T21:34:34.045-07:00Hunsdon:"But you didn't restrict your ana...Hunsdon:"But you didn't restrict your analysis to Russian and Greek Orthodox, didjer? You mixed in "Southern Baptist" and "Pentecostal" as well."<br /><br />Well, no, I did not. I was poking around for a Protestant group of appropriate size. However, as my subsequent post indicates, I changed my mind on that. Greek and Russian Orthodoxy seem to offer better points of comparison.<br /><br /><br />Hunsdun:" Would it be rude of me to point out that you rephrased the category from "Baptist---Southern" to "Southern Baptist"? Not so that the inquiring mind might look over total Baptist figures, I'm sure."<br /><br />MMM, I think that my "rephrasing" of "Baptist-Southern" to "Southern Baptist" was in the interests of euphony.Do they mean different things? If they do, I apologize.<br /><br />Hunsdon:"Maybe svigor will come along and say something about slippery Talmudic bullshit, I don't know."<br /><br />MMM, seeing as how I have never read the Talmud (and have no desire to do so), I'm not sure how I can be accused of "slippery Talmudic bullshit" (though that is a fine sounding phrase, I must admit).<br /><br />syonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83385310459964733652013-06-03T21:18:52.046-07:002013-06-03T21:18:52.046-07:00Hunsdon:"Let's discuss my larger point: A...Hunsdon:"Let's discuss my larger point: Ashkenazi Jews think America needs to be radically changed, and now that they've got the power, they're going to change it."<br /><br />Well, clearly some Ashkenazi Jews think so, but clearly not all...None of my maternal relatives (the Jewish half of my family), for example, believe in large scale immigration. Indeed, both of my uncles are in favor of a moratorium.Oh, and they also opposed Bush's Iraq invasion as well..<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Hunsdon:"Gay marriage, driving Christianity from the public square, ruinous wars against perceived enemies of Israel, and massive immigration from the Third World."<br /><br />Does Ashkenazi public opinion on same sex marriage differ from elite gentile opinion?<br /><br />Christianity from the public square: Doesn't that have more to do with historical trends in Anglo thought (Thomas Jefferson, etc)?<br /><br />Massive immigration:Well, Ashkenazi Jewry seem to have some potent allies on that score. Off hand, I can't think of too many Gentile business leaders who are in favor of restricting immigration...<br /><br />Ruinous wars: What is the polling data on Jewish support for the invasion of Iraq?Clearly, some elite Jews were in favor of it, but were the majority?<br /><br /><br />Hunsdon:" While we're at it, let's discuss sexual licentiousness."<br /><br />In what fashion?Personal conduct?Public standards of behavior?<br /><br />syonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17164221301238454852013-06-03T20:46:07.659-07:002013-06-03T20:46:07.659-07:00syon: and the Southern Baptists kind of just slip...syon: and the Southern Baptists kind of just slipped in there? And the Pentecostals? I get your point about the Russian and Greek Orthodox. Indeed, sir, I accept it as valid.<br /><br />But you didn't restrict your analysis to Russian and Greek Orthodox, didjer? You mixed in "Southern Baptist" and "Pentecostal" as well. Would it be rude of me to point out that you rephrased the category from "Baptist---Southern" to "Southern Baptist"? Not so that the inquiring mind might look over total Baptist figures, I'm sure.<br /><br />Maybe svigor will come along and say something about slippery Talmudic bullshit, I don't know.<br /><br />Besides, why quibble about numbers of the honored dead in Vietnam? Let's discuss my larger point: Ashkenazi Jews think America needs to be radically changed, and now that they've got the power, they're going to change it.<br /><br />Gay marriage, driving Christianity from the public square, ruinous wars against perceived enemies of Israel, and massive immigration from the Third World. While we're at it, let's discuss sexual licentiousness.<br /><br />Please, let's discuss.Hunsdonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83234764043852680242013-06-03T19:39:07.628-07:002013-06-03T19:39:07.628-07:00Francis Salvador (1747-1776), Sephardic Jew and Pa...Francis Salvador (1747-1776), Sephardic Jew and Patriot:<br /><br /><br />"After arriving in Charleston in December 1773, Salvador at once entered into the American cause, and became close friends with the leaders of the Revolution in the South, including Pinckney, Rutledge, Drayton, Laurens, and Hammond.[4] Salvador was elected to South Carolina's General Assembly within a year of arriving, the first Jew to hold that office in any of the English colonies in North America.[1] He was just 27, and would hold the post until his death.[3]<br />Although Jews legally could neither hold office nor vote, no one objected when Salvador was elected, along with his friend and fellow planter Richard Rapley, as the two frontier representatives from Ninety-Six to the provincial congress. He was chosen for important committee assignments: drawing up the declaration of the purpose of the congress to the people; obtaining ammunition; assessing the safety of the frontier, and working on the state constitution.[5]<br />In 1774, Salvador was chosen to be a delegate to the revolutionary Provincial Congress of the colony, which first met in Charleston in January 1775. The group framed a bill of rights and composed an address to South Carolina's royal governor setting forth the colonists' complaints against the Crown. Salvador was appointed to a commission that tried to convince the Tories in the northern and western parts of the colony to join the American cause.<br />The second Provincial Congress assembled in November 1775. Salvador was one of the champions for Independence. He urged his fellow delegates to instruct the colony's delegation to the Continental Congress to cast their vote for independence. Salvador chaired the ways and means committee of this second Congress, at the same time serving on a select committee authorized to issue bills of credit as payment to members of the militia. He was also made part of a commission established to preserve the peace in the interior parts of South Carolina.[1]<br />Fighting in the American Revolution [edit]<br /><br />Early in 1776 the British had induced the Indians to attack the South Carolina frontier to create a diversion in favor of British operations on the sea-coast; and on July 1, 1776, the Indians began attacking frontier families. Salvador mounted his horse and galloped to Major Williamson, 28 miles (45 km) away, and gave the alarm. Salvador took part in the engagements that followed. On July 31, Major Andrew Williamson captured two white loyalists, who led his 330 men into an ambush prepared by their fellow Tories and Seneca Indians on the Keowee River.[6] Salvador was shot. Falling among the bushes, he was discovered by the Indians and scalped. He died from his wounds, age 29.<br />Concerning his death, Colonel William Thomson wrote to William Henry Drayton, in a letter dated "Camp, two miles below Keowee, August 4th, 1775", as follows: "Here, Mr. Salvador received three wounds; and, fell by my side. . . . I desired [Lieutenant Farar], to take care of Mr. Salvador; but, before he could find him in the dark, the enemy unfortunately got his scalp: which, was the only one taken. . . . He died, about half after two o'clock in the morning: forty-five minutes after he received the wounds, sensible to the last. When I came up to him, after dislodging the enemy, and speaking to him, he asked, whether I had beat the enemy? I told him yes. He said he was glad of it, and shook me by the hand – and bade me farewell – and said, he would die in a few minutes."[7]<br />A patriot journal, The Rememerance, wrote: "he was universally loved and esteemed."[4][8]<br />Salvador probably never learned that the delegation in Philadelphia had heeded his advice and voted for independence.<br />In 1950, to celebrate the 200th anniversary of Charleston's Jewish congregation, the City of Charleston erected a memorial to Francis Salvador, the first Jew to die for the American Revolution." (Wikipedia)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67595032422125562122013-06-03T19:14:31.099-07:002013-06-03T19:14:31.099-07:00"Hunsdon said:
Baptist - Other 9,478
Protest..."Hunsdon said:<br /><br />Baptist - Other 9,478<br />Protestant - No Preference 16,644<br />Roman Catholic 16,815<br /><br />I guess it's all really in how you slant the numbers, isn't it?"<br /><br />Well, yes, Hunsdon. That's why I did not compare Jewish Vietnam deaths to Protestant (no pref ) deaths, Roman Catholic deaths, or Baptist deaths. All three of those faiths vastly outnumber Jews. Hence,by that fact alone, their death numbers do not offer a useful point of comparison. <br /><br /><br />Actually, I tend to think that the Greek and Russian Orthodox numbers offer a particularly apt point of comparison.Both faiths are closer to Judaism as a share of the American population, and, like Judaism, both faiths have a strong ethnic component. Indeed, during the Vietnam War era, I would place a very high probability on the assumption that practically all Greek and Russian Orthodox believers in the military were born into the faith. So, in the interest of the best possible comparison, here are the relevant numbers again:<br /><br />Greek Orthodox:58<br />Russian Orthodox:22<br />Jews:269<br /><br />syonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61211033183153703442013-06-03T16:52:27.597-07:002013-06-03T16:52:27.597-07:00Anonymous said...
Since people seem obsessed by th... Anonymous said...<br />Since people seem obsessed by this, here is a Vietnam death list, sorted by religion:<br />Assemblies of God 117<br />Baptist - American 4<br />Baptist - Southern 121<br />Baptist - Other 9,478<br />Brethren, Dunkers 63<br />Buddhism 53<br />Christian Science 63<br />Church of Christ 528<br />Church of God 238<br />Congregational Christian 145<br />Disciples of Christ 34<br />Episcopal, Anglican 825<br />Evangelical, United Brethren 39<br />Evangelical, Reformed 11<br />Friends, Quakers 12<br />Jehovah's Witnesses 26<br />Jewish 269<br />Mormon Latter Day Saints 589<br />Lutheran & Missouri Synod 2,251<br />Methodist 4,079<br />Mission Covenant 1<br />Moslem, Muslim 12<br />Nazarene 132<br />Orthodox, Greek 58<br />Orthodox, Russian 22<br />Pentecostal 182<br />Presbyterian 1,303<br />Protestant - Other 559<br />Protestant - No Preference 16,644<br />Reformed 45<br />Roman Catholic 16,815<br />7th Day Adventist 116<br />Unitarian Universalist 45<br />United Church of Christ 11<br />No Religious Preference 1,284<br />Other Religions 210<br /><br /><br />According to modern conventional wisdom, most of these guys were either bigots, racists, sexual harassers or rapists. Memorial Day services only encourage them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48547046400209066122013-06-03T16:26:18.697-07:002013-06-03T16:26:18.697-07:00Leslie Nielsen is a good call. (Except Frank Drebi...Leslie Nielsen is a good call. (Except Frank Drebin was a likeable guy who tried to uphold the law).<br /><br />The Trading Places president and the Naked Gun VP. Yeesh.<br /><br />Why doesn't Obama fire Biden and replace him with someone better? He doesn't need him any more, for anything.Carlin Banksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6009170618182294702013-06-03T15:29:03.327-07:002013-06-03T15:29:03.327-07:00syon: I know in my case, my "anti-semitism&q...syon: I know in my case, my "anti-semitism" is really "anti-ashkenazism." Sephardic Jews like Judah Benjamin seemed to fit in a lot better.<br /><br />Look, I can understand how Ashkenazi Jews would bring certain cultural biases and resentments with them. It would be almost superhuman of them not to, and Jews ain't Superman (Siegel and Shuster notwithstanding).<br /><br />But that doesn't give them a pass to destroy my country.<br /><br />syon said:<br /><br />Greek Orthodox:58<br />Russian Orthodox:22<br />Southern Baptist:121<br />Pentecostal:182<br /><br />Jews:269<br /><br />Hunsdon said:<br /><br />Baptist - Other 9,478<br />Protestant - No Preference 16,644<br />Roman Catholic 16,815<br /><br />I guess it's all really in how you slant the numbers, isn't it?<br /><br />Anonydroid at 2:42 PM said: Or let's not forget the Spanish inquisition! <br /><br />Hunsdon said: No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!<br /><br />Latin America and the Philippines, that sounds like a Spanish game to me. (Hey, where's Nick Diaz when you need him?) I'd argue that was as much glory and gold as God, but you have a point.<br /><br />Otherwise, Christianity was spread by the sword pretty much in, umm, the Baltic Crusades (which conveniently carried on against Catholic Poland, but let's not pick nits).<br /><br />Hey, who now remembers the Amalakites? (Godwin's Law does not apply: it's not a direct quote.)<br /><br />Thank goodness there are no atheistic murderous regimes to rebut your point about religion being uniquely vile.Hunsdonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15541042158761287902013-06-03T14:54:28.396-07:002013-06-03T14:54:28.396-07:00The issue is not just with what Jews do with power...The issue is not just with what Jews do with power, but that Jewish over-representation among Hollywood and Wall St. executives and many other sections of the elite is far greater than what can be explained by merit. These industries are ethnic cartels. ATBOTLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30182614788371439652013-06-03T14:42:21.337-07:002013-06-03T14:42:21.337-07:00"Sounds like the position of a domineering el..."Sounds like the position of a domineering elite.<br /><br />6/3/13, 7:21 AM"<br /><br />Sounds like the whining of a weak WASP. I'm a WASP. Get over yourself, your weakness disgusts me.<br /><br /><br />"I would think that the concept of "elite" is implied by the term "chosen people". Their term, not ours. So, yes, they have always viewed themselves as an elite."<br /><br />And Christians who went into untold amount of lands and converted people at the tip of the sword? What about Manifest Destintiny? Oh well, it's those reds(or whoever of them is left anyway), who cares!<br /><br />We don't even need to go into the problematic teachings of Islam.<br /><br />Is the 'Chosen people' elitist, arrogant and racist? You bet. But so does very long tradition of Christian - and specfically Western Christian - exceptionalism. Or, if we are more honest, supremacism.<br /><br />How did Christianity spread to, say, Latin America or for that matter large parts of Asia like the philippines?<br /><br />Well, with the help of the Western Empires of their 'divine mission'. Or let's not forget the Spanish inquisition! <br /><br />I mean, the delusion here among you people is amazing. Religion is fundamentally a dangerous and reactionary thing. I'm not going to say that either Christianity or Judaism today is as or more violent than Islam - which has deep problems. That'd be measly to argue. But in a historical context, in the medieval era it's not a hard case at all to build that Christianity is the most violent, messianic and, yes, domineering and elitist religion.<br /><br />People are so blinded by their own biases. Jew or Gentile.<br />Amusednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49582946507136689882013-06-03T13:06:34.808-07:002013-06-03T13:06:34.808-07:00According to this site, 9% of New York state is Je...According to this site, 9% of New York state is Jewish.<br /><br />So much for ever ridding the state of this guy before his natural death. <br /><br /><br />Tribal voting is as popular as ever. Hilary, white Episcopalian though she may be, was simply a proxy for a Jewess senator when she ran and won the NY seat. She's every bit as conniving as Schumer, although if the sunlight continues to be focused on that travesty, she might not survive it as she's no where near as bright as Schumer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23061908700579506382013-06-03T12:59:14.125-07:002013-06-03T12:59:14.125-07:00They were subject to the draft just like everybody...<i>They were subject to the draft just like everybody else.</i><br /><br />Indeed. On the other hand, there was a draft during Vietnam, too.<br /><br /><i>How many were killed in combat? Anyone know? Where's the Spielberg movie?</i><br /><br /><a href="http://svyatoslav.50megs.com/JEWS&LOYALTY.HTML" rel="nofollow">Jews and the Armed Forces of the U.S.A.</a><br /><br />That's more than a few years old, but it was all I could dredge up at the time. No, no casualty figures. I guess it's safe to say their death rates were relatively low (Jews tend to be smart and educated and thus to test out of stuff like dying in the infantry).Svigornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80313795465660062832013-06-03T12:31:55.391-07:002013-06-03T12:31:55.391-07:00(Here's Joel Stein's 2008 column in the Lo...<i>(Here's Joel Stein's 2008 column in the Los Angeles Times "How Jewish Is Hollywood?" giving demographic numbers on the ethnicity of studio bosses. And here's Ben Stein's essay on the same subject from 1996. A casual reading of the two Steins' articles would suggest that the top jobs in Hollywood became more monolithically Jewish from 1996 to 2008, but of course the actual trend, whatever it is, should be researched in greater depth by ... by ... uh, by some careful social scientist who is independently wealthy and who never eats lunch.)</i><br /><br />Or perhaps a tenured Cal State psychology professor. I've heard one of them is an expert on matters Hebraic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28450161557480987032013-06-03T12:11:09.099-07:002013-06-03T12:11:09.099-07:00Jefferson and Franklin did not believe in Darwin b...Jefferson and Franklin did not believe in Darwin but only because they lived a bit too early. Both I'm sure would have accepted 'The Origin of the Species' and welcomed its answers to all the mysteries that surrounded them. They were pre-adapted.<br /><br />That's how I feel. I'm ready to accept that political orientation is based in biology but as yet no genius has arisen to explain it all to the world.<br /><br />Judaism is a different religion in that it has a strong genetic component. Those born Jews are quite bright. But Sammy Davis Jr. didn't get smarter when he converted.<br /><br />Jews are also predominantly liberal. I think that's genetic too - but I can't prove it - hell I can't even suggest a plausible mechanism.<br /><br />Jews have long been associated with media. They were among the first peoples to be literate thousands of years ago so I'm not surprised that they are associated strongly with the 'new media' of cinema. I strongly suspect that this too is in their genes. Please don't ask me how. I live a bit to early to know.<br /><br />AlbertosaurusPat Boylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13477950851915567863noreply@blogger.com